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US Aircraft Carrier Stennis Is Now En Route To Join Enterprise And Eisenhower Off Iranian Coast
Back in early July we wrote that contrary to expectations, veteran Middle Eastern aircraft carrier CVN-74 Stennis would end its shore leave far earlier than expected, and be redeployed back to its usual stomping grounds just off Iran months ahead of schedule. As of days ago, the Stennis has quietly departed Naval Base Kitsap-Bremerton and is off. It will join CVN-65 Enterprise (which is doing its last tour of duty ever before being decommissioned) and CVN-69 Eisenhower in the Arabian Sea, aka off the coast of Iran. This will be one of the only times in history when the US has had three aircraft carriers in close proximity to those evil Iranians who are hell bent on global domination. Expect Stennis to reach Iran (and be available to support an Israeli attack of Iran) in the last third week of September. Then determine when the next full/new moon is following the arrival of Stennis at its destination, and buy Brent calls just ahead. Finally, profit.
From Kitsap Sun:
The USS John C. Stennis, with more than 2,000 sailors aboard, left Naval Base Kitsap-Bremerton on Monday to begin what's expected to be an eight-month deployment. The Stennis has only been home since March 2, when it returned from a seven-month deployment in the Middle East. But with tensions remaining high in that region, Defense Secretary Leon Panetta ordered the aircraft carrier back out to sea. The carrier had not been scheduled to deploy until January.
CVN-74 departs on its way to CVN-65 and CVN-69.
Source: Stratfor
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Source: Military Today -- Enterprise is currently deployed with the Pacific Fleet and was SLEPed between 1991 and 1994. It is scheduled to be decommissioned in 2013. This warship will be replaced by the new Ford class aircraft carrier, which is currently under construction and is expected to be commissioned in 2015.
Source: Defense Industry Daily -- The target date for CVN 78 (Gerald R. Ford) commissioning is 2014, whereupon it will replace America’s first nuclear-powered aircraft carrier – the 50+ year old USS Enterprise (CVN 65).
CVN-79 (John F. Kennedy) is scheduled for commission in 2020.
I just don't see how you can protect a carrier against modern missiles and "torpedoes."
It's doable. To a point. But if that point is passed, anything, even the North American continent, could be sunk. I'm not sure that anyone has that much instant on-demand firepower.
He is correct. Carriers are already going the way of the battleship. We might lose all three in the Gulf within the same 10 minutes.
Wars are about to become very fast, remote and automatic. They will be too hard to do correctly. And the US will likely lose because we have embraced too much complexity.
Not sure all of what comes after a significant loss. But I know one thing, a lot of people are going to wake up from a long slumber and be very frightened.
You may want to do some reading> http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/design-preparations-continue-for-the... <What do you think is going to deliver those generically-called drones into theater?
The USS New Jersey was used to launch cruise missles. So what? A barge pulled by a sea-going tug boat could have done as well.
I know exactly what I'm talking about, and you missed my point. From prepaing to fight the wars of the past we are now ill-prepared to fight the wars we have coming at us. These "floating cities" are now too easy a target to last long in an era of hyper-sonic torpedos and surface-skimming anti-ship missles. They will go to the bottom -- quickly -- and take our dreams of projected military supperiority down with them.
I am sympathetic to your position Cougar. The modern fleet carrier has never really been tested in battle. In "war games" and "simulations" these carrier battle groups do well until overwhelmed by guided missile attacks. However, radar-evading boats, surface-skimming missiles, high-speed torpedoes. It all comes down to the phalanx system functioning under combat conditions. No one is sure that this system will perform as advertised. Your general point about the U.S. relying on too much complexity is exactly correct. Drones, laser-guided, gps-guided bombs, stealth bombers... these are incredibly expensive ways to deliver a relatively small amount of explosives on target. In real terms not capable of much more than a Stuka, Sturmovik, Val, or P-47 tank buster was in 1939-45.
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The USS New Jersey was used to launch cruise missles. So what? A barge pulled by a sea-going tug boat could have done as well."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Missouri_%28BB-63%29
"On 29 January, the Oliver Hazard Perry-class frigate Curts led Missouri northward, using advanced mine-avoidance sonar. In her first naval fire support action of Desert Storm she shelled an Iraqi command and control bunker near the Saudi border, the first time her 16 in (410 mm) guns had been fired in combat since March 1953 off Korea.[30] The battleship bombarded Iraqi beach defenses in occupied Kuwait on the night of 3 February, firing 112 16 in (410 mm) rounds over the next three days until relieved by Wisconsin. Missouri then fired another 60 rounds off Khafji on 11–12 February before steaming north to Faylaka Island. After minesweepers cleared a lane through Iraqi defenses, Missouri fired 133 rounds during four shore bombardment missions as part of the amphibious landing feint against the Kuwaiti shore line the morning of 23 February.[5] The heavy pounding attracted Iraqi attention; in response to the battleship’s artillery strike, the Iraqis fired two HY-2 Silkworm missiles at the battleship, one of which missed,[31] while the other was intercepted by a GWS-30 Sea Dart missile launched from the British air defence destroyer HMS Gloucester[5] within 90 seconds and crashed into the sea roughly 700 yd (640 m) in front of Missouri.[32]
yep, stick 9 cannon shooting 1 ton slugs on the barge, give it a magazine holding a few hundred rounds behind a 12" arrmor belt; and tow it all around at 35 knots and you've got the exact same thing
"going the way of the Battleship"???
It is only pig-headed idiots that refuse to have 2 to 4 BBs online. There is a job for the BBs that no other ship can do. There has yet to be a substitute for the BB when it comes to amphiibious assault pre-landing bombardment. But the money-men at DoD would rather spend well over $10 Billion on a "next generation" DD (Zumwalt) that will never be functional in any combat environment. (Except to serve as a missile sponge.)
China, our trading friend said they would defend Iran.
Major General Zhang Zhaozhong, a professor from the Chinese National Defense University, said China will not hesitate to protect Iran even with a third World War... Professor Xia Ming: "Zhang Zhaozhong said that not hesitating to fight a third world war would be entirely for domestic political needs...." And don't forget Russia, which recently said it is preparing to retaliate against NATO and has put radar stations on combat alert: "Russia is another ally of Iran, with similar policy to that of China. Toward Iran."
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/china-will-not-hesitate-protect-iran-even-third-world-war
The banksters always make money off of war.
The Chinese also want to have war against Japan, Vietnam and the Philippines because of some tiny islands it claims to own.
That's where the false flag attack comes in. Russia and China couldn't find fault with us "defending ourselves" now, could they?
"Major General Zhang Zhaozhong, a professor from the Chinese National Defense University, said China will not hesitate to protect Iran even with a third World War... Professor Xia Ming: "Zhang Zhaozhong said that not hesitating to fight a third world war would be entirely for domestic political needs....""
Have they called it the 'mother of all battles' yet? Because that's when you know they really mean it.
China has a vested interest in Iran. After the US/"coalition" forces "liberated" Iraq, it was the Chinese who picked up the oil pieces. It would not surprise me if they were also refining Iranian oil too.
But if/when the foo-foo impacts tthe rotating oscilating blades, I expect China to go for continental hegemony and try to take Japan.
Just in case anyone was confused as to what really backs the dollar. Not necessarily the military, but certainly the industrial military complex.
Yup. Except that to leverage your strength in the end you have to actually kill a bunch of people. "Strength" like that is a little hard to use.
I just LOVE those demonstrations of peaceful intentions.
Gee, if obama could just arrange a false flag attack of the Enterprise it would probably poll well. Rally around the president. I'm sure that's impossible
I'd consider it gross malfeasance to have to use military power at all, and especially to lose a Carrier - which no President has done since WW II.
And an FYI - several on this board have commented that it would be easy to sink a US Super Carrier. Sorry. Not true.
US ships and aircraft used a decomissioned US Super Carrier as the target in a "sink-Ex" - and after about 3 days of pounding, etc the ship still proudly floated upright. And that was without a crew aboard to do damage control and fix the holes. They finally had to blow the scuttling charges to sink it.
I was at sea on the bridge of another super carrier a few years ago when a QM saw my hat (I'd served on the sunken Carrier) and said "We sank your ship." With the Captain listening in, I "corrected" the young fellow and the Captain just grinned from ear to ear and looked out the window. ;-D
To all you Iranians...Don't worry wee are coming to liberate you ....from the heavy burden of your gold and oil. We will give you a central bank in it's place so you too can experience the benefits of the bankers screwing you at every turn.
The White House is in a desperate search for reliable Iranian natives who could head the puppet .. uh .. the provisional post-war government. Iranians? Wait .. Kardashian, isn't that a Persian name?
nice one dude. lol. Why, it is a perfect plan. I would recommend Chloe.
The u.s. under this admin will not touch Iran.
-ashian = Armenian.
First they name the carrier after the worst loser in all of Westeros. And then they don't even manage to spell his name right. What's wrong with these people?
The U.S. will not do Iran.
Let it be said for posterity: "I didn't attack Iran, the government did that for me." The bastards.
So, the Iranians can swarm attack and sink three carriers? Bonus! You provoke a flag attack AND have an excuse to increase military spending. Everyone wins, except the sailors and the voters, of course who experience death and taxes, respectively.
Apropos of little:
Though only an unthinking hatemonger could find this curious, the heads of the fed, the fdic, the cftc, sec, council of economic advisors, CBO, office of budget and management, the council on jobs and competitiveness, the financial crimes enforcement unit of the treasury....indeed, and verifiably - just about every office in the executive branch [including the senior advisor, senior counsel, and chief of staff] dealing with financial regulation or investigation is chaired by someone who happens to be Jewish.
A group comprising 2.5% or so of the population. Which seems to run counter to the 'diveristy' and 'multiculturalism' ethos which was hammered into me, anyway.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_Office_of_the_President_of_the_United_States
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_federal_agencies
Now then, could it be there's a similar phenomenon with regard to US agencies and DC thinktanks that essentially determine our foreign policy? Could the incessant ink about 'the jewish vote' really mean jewish money, and does that, perhaps, explain the wildly disproportionate over-representation of Jews qua group from Clinton, certainly, onward?
Don't look at the 'experts' advising Romney too closely if the question discomfits you.
http://mycatbirdseat.com/
www.wikispooks.com
www.whatreallyhappened.com
I don't think they're even close to 2.5% of the global population. Maybe 0.25% at best. Compare that to black people and the number of esteemed positions they hold. I'm not gona give it up, I'm not gona give it up, till Africa and Africans are free (Peter Tosh).
http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/world-jewish-population.htm
I'm surprised oil is not up on this news. I'm considering a long oil / short SPY pairs trade. Having the Stennis join two other aircraft carriers in close proximity doesn't happen often so I wouldn't be surprised to see oil spike at some point.
Ducks in a barrel spring to mind my American friends.
If you don't want to lose a lot of friends and fellow country men to 300mph russian missiles aimed at your carriers, I sugest a robust word with your representatives of whatever hue. Seeing as they all work for AIPAC, and the zionist isreali shills, who have no allegiance to your fine country, do you not think that you should be looking out for the lads who the isreali zionists are prepared to sacrifice in your name?
This has gone beyond a joke. Please try and do something, anything to stop thousands of your fellow men dying at the hands of the puppet masters. Iran is a threat to no one let alone America. Iran has the Russian Sunburn missile and your carrier groups have no defence. Look it up, do not take my word for it. This is needless, it is unwaranted, it is down right immoral to use American men to die for isreal. Let them fight any war they want but please stop your good men dying for it.
Unless I have this wrong, when you sign up, you sign up to defend your fellow country men and the CONSTITUTION.
Not fucking isreal. Please, WW3 will make world war 4 fought with sticks and stones. For fucking isreal? Not a chance.
You act as if political theater is real. There is no stopping anything currently, as the facade is the product of The Big Lie.
In order for people to recognize the lie, they have to see their own part in perpetrating it.
And if you look closely, you'll see very few who have that capacity, let alone the ability to reprogram their own belief systems on what reality truly is (and isn't).
Nope, all they can do is to cling to what tiny bit of rationality is left, demanding that "it" save itself, from itself.
See, the answer is always externalized, even though the true solution is internal.
If you don't want to lose a lot of friends and fellow country men to 300mph russian missiles aimed at your carriers,
300 mph?
Perhaps you left off a zero by mistake. 3,000 mph sounds a bit more like it. As in "unstopable".
2,283 mph, but who's counting?
not sure if its the sunburn, but I read that they had an anti-ship missile that did mach 7...don't even know what that means.
Mach 1 is the speed of sound, or 768mph in dry air @60oF. Mach 7 would be 5,376mph or 1126 feet per second. Very fast.
Basically my Colt Super .45 rounds.
"Sunburn" = India developed/created "Brahma" - as multi-task, multi platform weapon (LSA) - ran into tech problems and "abandoned" development (aka "sent to Russia for further work"). The mach 7 kinetic energy missile (IIRC with 1kilo +/- of HE warhead and a 200 mile range) has several names - depending on who has it.
"Perhaps you left off a zero by mistake. 3,000 mph sounds a bit more like it. As in "unstopable"."
And at 0mph on the launch pad, one man's 'unstoppable' is another man's 'unlaunchable'.
And at 210 miles from launch point it becomes "See the funny missile make a big splash in the sea as it runs out of gas."
The SS-N-22 is a badass mofo... pretty neat that China has those too, dontcha think?
The few effective things that anyone could do would get us arrested and indefinitely detained, so I think instead I will post a comment on the internet.
Actually, scratch that. There is nothing that can effectively be done. This train wreck is already in motion.
Read more: http://world.time.com/2012/09/04/how-sending-fewer-u-s-troops-to-israeli-joint-exercise-further-strains-relations/#ixzz25cQg6Oxv
Thanks. And with this conclusion from Time:
“What’s clear at the moment is that there’s no great quarrel between the Israeli and American militaries. They routinely operate ‘in lockstep’ as another Pentagon spokesperson put it, with a level of mutual cooperation that was only enhanced by the United States–Israel Enhanced Security Cooperation Act of 2012. The bill was signed at the end of July (not long after the Americans informed their Israeli counterparts that they were scaling back the joint exercise) and promises specific hardware, like midair refueling tankers, not previously forthcoming in the $3 billion annual military aid package from Washington. There’s every reason for the militaries to get along famously these days.
“The friction in the alliance is between higher officials, what Israelis call ‘the political echelon.’ Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu scolded the world beyond Israel’s borders on Sunday that it needed to serve Iran a deadline. And the Hebrew press on Monday was rife with reports that the Obama Administration was quarreling openly with Netanyahu over the right way to deal with Tehran. Exhibit A was Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Martin Dempsey’s remarks in London on Thursday, warning that an attack by Israel would likely fail to destroy the Iranian program but effectively destroy the international movement painstakingly assembled against it.
“As it happened, Dempsey’s remark also explained the political logic of reducing the number of U.S. troops traveling to Israel on the eve of a presidential election: ‘I don’t want to be complicit if they choose to do it,’ Dempsey said.”
and with this link to this August 13, 2012 article:
Why Do Israeli Media Keep Predicting War with Iran? : "A frenetic pounding of the war drums appears designed to create the impression that Israel will attack Iran before the U.S. presidential election. Whether that's Netanyahu's real intent remains a mystery."
As for beating the war drums and lest we forget: warmonger, mapmaker and neocon supporter Stratfor is the mouthpiece for Goldman. When you read what Stratfor has to say you’re reading Goldman Sachs.
"Theirs not to reason why,
Theirs but to do and die:"
"The Charge of the Light Brigade" Alfred Lord Tennyson.
http://poetry.eserver.org/light-brigade.html
(There's but to do and die - in that order.)
Nope. War won't break out until 3rd week of Oct. Needs to be a fresh war to affect the election. The commander and cheif always gains popularity in the first stage of a war.
the two old ships: enterprise and eisenhower are great values as projection of power decoys. if iran damages one of them, its no big loss as they are sooner decommisioned. the decoys are providing cover for the capable stennis. how to project power but take less risk in a tight waterway. i bet they'll put stennis further out of harms way and put the old carriers closer in harms way.
don't buy crude yet. zf has been following the carriers in the straights since before thanksgiving. so far, reality hasn't lived up to the rumor/hype.
"its no big loss"
At $5 to 7 BN @ - compared to the MBS derivative markets - mere peanuts.
For sure, if *I* were about to start a war, I'd try to make it really obvious.
That's like...strategery.
War is merely politics by other means.
Politics meanwhile, is merely war by other means.
In light of that, are you saying there's no value to what's occurring?
Remember, the only wars ever "won" are the ones avoided. All others merely classify the losers.
... the only wars ever "won" are the ones avoided.
I know that was true about the American Revolution against England. We didn't really win, did we. (Do I really need to identify this as sarcasm?)
are you saying there's no value to what's occurring?
Well I certainly wouldn't buy any.
Too many checkers players, not enough chess. Look, instability, given our military investments, is our friend. Who exactly is put in jeopardy by shenanigans and THREE carrier fleets in the Strait of Hormuz? Iran? Really? Just Iran?
EVERYONE. That's the point. We are the bulls, and the world is our china shop. Make us happy, or everyone gets fucked. Come on. The US is going rogue. This no more about Iran than it is about Israel. it is about global trade, and we intend to be able to control it via the threat of instability. Bush Jr. agreed to test out the practice; now we got it down. Just ask pakistan how much they love a "stable" Afghanistan....
balance of power, people. Military adventurism is the only trump card we have left. But damn, it's a high trump.
Empires have no friends, only pawns.
'Prosody with an Attitude'
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/jethrotull/thickasabrickpart1.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukNSiSH42vk
$/ keep`em angry... then blame the world --- but for God's sake do not do God's work for him... that would be an insufferable act of treason for mankinds' sake... /$
Huh? "This will be one of the only times in history when the US has had three aircraft carriers in close proximity to those evil Iranians"
Go count the hardware on the first gulf war: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_of_the_Gulf_War#Aircraft_Carriers
Aircraft Carriers: 6 Amphibious Assault Ships: 7And some other stuff to.
This is just showboating until someone/thing FFs up....
So you are using what happened 20 years ago to predict what will happen in 2012?? Riiiight...
Wow! Awesome how many comments on this already. Have a look see at this one, it's a doosy!
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2012/08/28/the-truth-about-the-2007-invasion-of-iran-and-the-woman-who-stopped-it/
She will be interviewed on republicbroadcasting.org Thursday morning (Mike Harris' show at 8am central) for the second time. Her story is astounding!
New moon 15 October 2012 @5:03 AM pdt - my guess is no election and full martlal law in USA
Sorry dudes, New Moon is not Full Moon. New Moon is when it rises approximate to the Sun, (thereby not visible to the naked eye); Full Moon is Full Moon; visible at night.
Next New Moon occurs Saturday September 15th, Full Moon on the 30th.
I say look for some other date, perhaps in line with the Babylonian captivity, (it is revenge after all).
Nevertheless, of the two Moon dates, Bibi the Yahoo's dumbshit attack would most likely take place on, or about the 15th/16th i.e. Rosh HaShannah, (Jewish New Year); the Full Moon option is least likely, because it falls on the Jews High Holy Week, assuming there is such a thing as Torah Observance in Palestine?
The question is, what will be their political cover?
Can you say "False Flag"?
No mention of the laundry ship USS Walter Mondale?
YouTube - You didn't build that Tower, Japheth! Some other Jew made that happen, sez President Obama
The Iranians are not hell-bent on world domination. They are hell-bent on unleashing sufficient chaos on earth so their Mahdi returns from out of the well and subdues all the world in the name of Islam.
"Ignorance is bliss!"
Tuco
Ther is a man in China who has his button on a large button marked "SELL US$3Trillion US Treasuries" and a line to the White House.
That is the way to stop the idiotic war mongers the US citizens have voted for.
Aircraft carriers aka billion-dollar artificial fish reefs...
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Radioactive artificial reefs. I add that just so we get to enjoy this prospect as much as possible.
They need to take out Syria first....
'xactly. but it looks like that's been 'tentatively tabled in'...
I would be also concerned with the activity near/in the South China Sea (nat gas areas). Again, the ECB/FED will help send the oil price higher, equities will sell off, but the oil price going bid with USDs, whilst China sell Yuan (to buy USDs).
A geo political/war/tensions trade.
Can you even dare the thought... imagining this thing getting ugly and out of hand? Europe means shit today... so, they won't factor into the carnage. The entire ME will explode, and with it Russia and China will undoubtedly enter the fray based upon mankind's nomadic foraging regarding his existential instinctive survivalist skills - the pillaging of neo-logistic spoils at whatever the cost? Think about how close Russia and China are to the honeypot we think is ours, and with the Arabs able and willing to sign allegiance to either/or old foe?
America has run its course of world dominance, period! We are spread to thin amongst our contemporaries. Nobody ever fault a two-front war and succeeded. We are broke... and the threat of nuclear holocaust regarding 'MAD' *[Mutually Assured Destruction] is now the only reality?
What happens when one of the two,... being Russia or China call our bluff and invade our country [don't think it can't happen] and we face for the first time in our history a foreign evasion --as we watch in the comfort of our living rooms every night old WWII movies and the Middle East uprisings... always soliloguies abound apologizing emphatically for the poor things **[countries that the U.S. has Dictatorial/ Authoritarian/ Totalitarianism as a necessary convenience] light years away from our front steps! But, in the not? soon future... perhaps during the middle of a full-moon's nightmare-- in a somnambulistic state of surrealism, your idled conscious turns full-throttle choking on your hubris misanthropy of turning once, too many... a blind eye!!!
This will come to pass,...
jmo
thankyou tyler
"Nobody ever fault a two-front war and succeeded."
You slept through your history classes... didn't you. Or did they TEACH history in your school?