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The US Has Finally Done It: Mexican Immigrants Become Emigrants

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You know its bad when...the net flow of Mexicans into the US has fallen so much that there is a high probability that it is now in reverse ending around forty years of inward migration. The Pew Hispanic Center notes that the standstill - after more than 12 million current immigrants have entered the US - more than half of whom are illegal - appears to be the result of many factors including a weakened US job and construction market, tougher border enforcement, a rise in deportations, growing dangers associated with border crossing, a long-term decline in Mexico's birth rate, and changing (read perhaps more opportunistic) economic conditions in Mexico (especially if you work at WalMex). This sharp downward trend in net migration has led to the first significant decrease in at least two decades in the number of unauthorized Mexican immigrants living in the U.S. - to 6.1 million in 2011, down from a peak of nearly 7 million in 2007. In the five years from 2005 to 2010, about 1.4m Mexicans immigrated to the US – exactly the same number of Mexican immigrants and their US-born children who quit the US and moved back or were deported to Mexico. By contrast, in the previous five years to 2000 some 3m Mexicans came to the US and fewer than 700,000 left it. It will be interesting to see the spin that the Obama and Romney camps put on this hot-button topic as the 'Dream Act' turns into a nightmare and hardline anti-illegal immigration stances become, well, less relevant as Mexicans become Mexican'ts.

 

Among the report’s key findings:

  • In the five-year period from 2005 to 2010, about 1.4 million Mexicans immigrated to the United States and about 1.4 million Mexican immigrants and their U.S.-born children moved from the United States to Mexico.
  • In the five-year period a decade earlier (1995 to 2000), about 3 million Mexicans had immigrated to the U.S. and fewer than 700,000 Mexicans and their U.S. born-children had moved from the U.S. to Mexico.
  • This sharp downward trend in net migration has led to the first significant decrease in at least two decades in the number of unauthorized Mexican immigrants living in the U.S.—to 6.1 million in 2011, down from a peak of nearly 7 million in 2007. Over the same period the number of authorized Mexican immigrants rose modestly, from 5.6 million in 2007 to 5.8 million in 2011.
  • Mexicans now comprise about 58% of the unauthorized immigrants living in the United States. They also account for 30% of all U.S. immigrants. The next largest country of origin for U.S. immigrants, China, accounts for just 5% of the nation’s stock of nearly 40 million immigrants.
  • Apprehensions of Mexicans trying to cross the border illegally have plummeted by more than 70% in recent years, from more than 1 million in 2005 to 286,000 in 2011—a likely indication that fewer unauthorized immigrants are trying to cross. This decline has occurred at a time when funding in the U.S. for border enforcement—including more agents and more fencing—has risen sharply.
  • As apprehensions at the border have declined, deportations of unauthorized Mexican immigrants—some of them picked up at work or after being arrested for other criminal violations—have risen to record levels. In 2010, nearly 400,000 unauthorized immigrants—73% of them Mexicans—were deported by U.S. authorities.
  • Although most unauthorized Mexican immigrants sent home by U.S. authorities say they plan to try to return, a growing share say they will not try to come back to the U.S. According to a survey by Mexican authorities of repatriated immigrants, 20% of labor migrants in 2010 said they would not return, compared with just 7% in 2005.
  • Looking back over the entire span of U.S. history, no country has ever sent as many immigrants to this country as Mexico has in the past four decades. However, when measured not in absolute numbers but as a share of the immigrant population at the time, immigration waves from Germany and Ireland in the late 19th century equaled or exceeded the modern wave from Mexico.

 

and the full report is here:

Mexicants - Reverse Immigration

 

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Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:59 | 2369929 Vampyroteuthis ...
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MDB, I live near the TX-OK border. There is not much difference between TX-OK and the US-Canada border. Sorry to break it to you. Go troll elsewhere!

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:48 | 2370115 Apathetic or Wh...
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I'm new to ZH but is MDB Tyler's alter ego?

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 12:05 | 2370174 NotApplicable
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Digital personification of the principle of Reductio Ad Absurdum.

YMMV

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 19:39 | 2371887 MeelionDollerBogus
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Free trade is 80% fraud by America upon other nations.

Free trade is 99% fraud upon all non-government non-big corporations forced into it. It is forced. Real free trade breaks regulations, doesn't make new ones that hide market-value, market-location, market-quality of items / shippers / producers and enforce subsidies in a one-sided America-centric manner.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:37 | 2369813 5880
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SouthPark beat ZH to the punch

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:42 | 2369832 Dr. Engali
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They are ahead of the curve on a lot of things.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:44 | 2369856 BlueCollaredOne
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I hope they are wrong about Cthulhu...

 

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:56 | 2369913 Dr. Engali
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Lovecraft was a great writer. The Call of Cthulhu gave me the begibees when I was a kid.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:48 | 2369874 kridkrid
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The episode on the bailouts, debt, leverage and wheel that fed uses to create policy was absolutely brilliant.  

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:53 | 2369899 BlueCollaredOne
Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:01 | 2369937 Dr. Engali
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A Zero Hedge classic.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:50 | 2370126 tarsubil
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It'll be really funny when border patrol starts concentrating on stopping the meheecans from going home.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 23:03 | 2372251 FeralSerf
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That's because they belong to the Walton family and some big food processors now.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:43 | 2369842 ihedgemyhedges
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Yeah, but does this mean my favorite taco cart around the corner is going away???????

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:55 | 2369909 Sauk Leader
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It means your not going to be able to sell your old minivan. Sorry.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 12:12 | 2370195 NotApplicable
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Instead, you'll have to rely on the buyer of last resort, GM, to take it as a trade-in on a Volt.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:44 | 2369852 JPM Hater001
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Agreed- they finally have an effective border to keep Amercans in. That's why I sail. Right out the Mississippi and on my way tO Chile.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:48 | 2369870 Stoploss
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I guess they are just figuring out that with Obama in office, no fences are required.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:12 | 2369971 countupir
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This is exactly what Ron Paul stated in one of those Republican debates.  

<sarc>You know, one of those crazy ideas he usually comes up with</sarc>

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:52 | 2370135 Raymond Reason
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I agree with Ron Paul.  But by that time, the issue won't be getting out of the US.  It will be the same issue all 2nd and 3rd world citizens face.  Getting into somewhere else. 

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:14 | 2369981 DaveyJones
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they'll call us whitebacks

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 12:18 | 2370236 Marc_W
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Bull shit!   They aren't leaving.  And 6.1 million?  Try 30+ million illegals.  But god help you if you're a white person trying to immigrate to the U.S., get in fucking line, at the end of the line, where you'll stay for 6+ years.

 

This white man is leaving the U.S. to its fate as a failed fascist police state full of mud people.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 13:22 | 2370495 Randall Cabot
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Earl Raab, executive director emeritus of the Perlmutter Institute of Jewish Advocacy has said:

"The Census Bureau has just reported that about half of the American population will soon be non-white or non-European. And they will all be American citizens. We have tipped beyond the point where a Nazi-Aryan party will be able to prevail in this country. We have been nourishing the American climate of opposition to ethnic bigotry for about half a century. That climate has not yet been perfected, but the heterogeneous nature of our population tends to make our constitutional constraints against bigotry more practical than ever."

 

Jewish neocon Ben Wattenberg has said: "The non-Europeanization of America is heartening news of an almost transcendental quality".  
 

 

http://www.alor.org/Race,%20Culture%20and%20Nation/Professors%20Andrew%20Fraser%20&%20Kevin%20MacDonald.htm     

 

 

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 13:39 | 2370557 AnAnonymous
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Wont happen.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 14:02 | 2370653 akak
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More offuscation and denialistic algebraic coconutism from the eternally hypocritical Chinese citizenism troll.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:27 | 2369762 LawsofPhysics
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So, the creators of South Park are ahead or their time?  My god, that can't be good.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:30 | 2369783 CvlDobd
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Most great comedians are true visionaries that see things coming long before most people.

George Carlin, Lenny Bruce, and yes Trey Parker.

I love good stand up because of that reason. People laugh at comedians but the best are scary more than anything.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:37 | 2369816 Gully Foyle
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CvlDobd

"People laugh at comedians but the best are scary more than anything."

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr6VBg1SiYI

Typically, the routine has two characters meeting for the first time, with one of them becoming highly agitated over the utterance of particular words. Names and cities (such as Niagara Falls) have been used as the trigger, which then sends the unbalanced person into a state of mania; the implication is that the words have an unpleasant association in the character's past. While the other character merely acts bewildered, the crazed character relives the incident, uttering the words, "Slowly I turned...step by step...inch by inch...," as he approaches the stunned onlooker. Reacting as if this stranger is the object of his rage, the angry character begins hitting or strangling him, until the screams of the victim shake him out of his delusion. The character then apologizes, admitting his irrational reaction to the mention of those certain words. This follows with the victim innocently repeating the words, sparking the insane reaction all over again. This pattern is repeated in various forms, sometimes with the entrance of a third actor, uninformed as to the situation. This third person predictably ends up mentioning the words and setting off the manic character, but with the twist that the second character, not this new third person, is still the recipient of the violence.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:15 | 2369986 SheepDog-One
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Bill Hicks.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 16:52 | 2371468 Dugald
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Gully Foyle....

You scare me bubba....

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:41 | 2369828 Dr. Engali
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You can say that again. The sad thing is most people don't recognize it until after they are gone.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:55 | 2369903 CvlDobd
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Yeah, Carlin said the country was finished in October of 2007 when most were proclaiming how great things were. Our current situation is the spasms of the dying he talked about.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 23:11 | 2372271 FeralSerf
Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:44 | 2369847 Spastica Rex
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Especially John Candy. Talk about a prophet.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:23 | 2370020 DaveyJones
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non-prophet

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:54 | 2370143 Spastica Rex
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I don't know, DJ; the following has to demonstrate something about John Candy's prescient view of the (then) future decline of Western civilization:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_jtsfMU90w

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 12:08 | 2370183 Uncle Remus
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Candy was fat. ZH commentards have demonstrated a negative bias to fat people. Bigotry can blind.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 13:14 | 2370464 Spastica Rex
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John Candy was a genius, but I was just joking about the socio-political content of his material - that wasn't his thing. Not really Secondy City's thing, either.

But you're right; ZH is a haven for homophobes, racists, and other bigots.

The truth hurts, but then it sets you free.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:39 | 2370082 CoolBeans
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God rest his soul.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:27 | 2369765 Metalredneck
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Welcome to the new third world.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:47 | 2369867 JPM Hater001
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Third World status is so the new black.

Can't wait till I can afford it.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 12:10 | 2370188 Uncle Remus
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Wait, Third World status is tactical?

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:50 | 2369884 Born Patriot
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This country has been totally destroyed by multiculturalism. We need to get bac to the consititution before its too late. Vote Ron Paul.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:04 | 2369949 DaveyJones
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Wendy's new Taco menu is no match for Ben's agenda

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:10 | 2369966 BlueCollaredOne
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**Troll Alert**

 

http://www.zerohedge.com/search/user_comments?name=Born+Patriot

 

Every comment implies Ron Paul is raycisss.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:18 | 2369998 kridkrid
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It's clockwork.  A bot or a person?  The Air Force had a fairly public RFP on the street that asked for exactly this capability a couple of years ago.  It was transparent enough... they wanted software to automate the process of posting on message boards. -- The Air Force.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 12:11 | 2370191 Uncle Remus
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botzilla

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 12:14 | 2370208 NotApplicable
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Actually the entire DoD had the bid out, if memeory serves.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 15:41 | 2371201 Kobe Beef
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So opposition to the Frankfurt School's completely unfounded "multiculturalist" sociology experiment is rayciss? It's thoughtcrime, perhaps? Please enlighten us benighted proles with the glory of Ingsoc, O'Brien.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:24 | 2370025 tmosley
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Red Neck Repugnicant, you are a liar and a coward.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 12:23 | 2370256 Lednbrass
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Both are true enough, but youre still a mentally ill leftist asshole.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 12:23 | 2370254 Marc_W
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It's all of the mud people you've let flood into America that our driving us towards 3rd world status in the first place.  You cannot maintain European style living standards in the absence of European people.  There's a reason that all of the countries these mud people come from are unlivable shit holes - BECAUSE THAT IS WHAT THEY HAVE MADE THEM.

 

But 50 years of multi-cultural, diversity training and brainwashing has ruined the ability of Americans to even contemplate these notions.

 

So now that the mud people have made America almost as bad as their home country, they are going home (and taking their American money with them).  Good for them, bad for us.  They go home and live like kings while we have to live in a degraded America that will never be the same.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:27 | 2369769 SHEEPFUKKER
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adios amigos

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:30 | 2369781 Everybodys All ...
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+1

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:59 | 2369923 Hansel
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Here is my anecdote which makes me question these numbers: I talked to an illegal immigrant a couple weeks ago. She told me none of her friends want to go back to Mexico because in Mexico they can't get food stamps, WIC, child tax credits, free healthcare. In Mexico they would have to work, and here, according to this woman, her friends are lazy because they don't have to work.

She told me most women, when they get pregnant, come over here because they can immediately start getting WIC (women infant and child, part of SNAP) and food stamps, and when the baby is born, those payments all increase.

One of her friends, who didn't work much but has 2 kids, had just gotten $6000 from her child tax credits this year and bought a car and some rims.

When her friends do work, it's mostly for cash, so they avoid paying taxes. They would get none of these benefits in Mexico.

Again, that is my anecdote.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:07 | 2369953 karzai_luver
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so, when are you going to stop hiriing them?

fool.

Check out the slums where they are rented to and you will see vacancy everywhere.

It's so bad that a slumlord is having to pay to have them shipped up here to rent for the cash you pay them under the table.

fool.

 

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:13 | 2369979 i love cholas
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You talked to an illegal immigrant..right. Com'on man, we are on ZH for a reason. We aren't a bunch of rubes. you think we believe this story?

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:20 | 2370004 Hansel
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Believe what you want.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 12:02 | 2370164 Raymond Reason
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What most people don't understand, is that if you legally migrate to the US, it requires a US sponsor.  Usually a relative that signs and Affidavit of Support, guaranteeing to repay the US govt for any support the migrant receives from the State, for 10 years.  Moreover, to legally bring a family member here is a 5 - 10 year process, unless it's a fiancee, spouse, or minor child. 

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 12:11 | 2370179 Raymond Reason
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The "legal" immigrant is not inclined to receive transfer payments, because it will hurt his sponsor.  The immigrant therefore will not vote for larger govt, and is therefore considered "unfriendly" by govt.  And so the process never gets easier, only more and more difficult. 

Of course, none of this applies to refugees.  And so our govt loves refugees. 

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 12:26 | 2370265 pazmaker
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I work some with the immigrant community and that is the truth.  I am Latino and that is the truth unfortunately for quite a few.    Don't believe me?   Go sit in a local social services office somewhere and see how many latinos are there.   Now you can't tell who is legal and illegal but I know many illegals who came here to have their child born here so they can qualify for all the benefits that come along with it.  SNAP WIC Housing, Child Tax Credit.  etc etc...

so believe it or not  y si no me crees preguntale a una chola

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:24 | 2370023 krispkritter
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Not seeing it here in FL either. Neighbor works for a large home builder and runs crews of all Mexicans. Meanwhile his other family members can't get work in the trades because they can't live off the 'wages'. Berry picking is in full swing here and the fields are packed with Mexican as are the check cashing places on Friday. I'm told they use fake SS #'s to get paid, when/if the numbers get flagged, they just move to the next job. The employer is paying in their part but the workers never file. The wife and kids collect the bennies and they live much better than what I've seen in Mexico. A multi-national I used to work for opened a plant in Chihuahua but yields were so bad they only made money because wages were so low and they were moving those jobs to Brazil and the Phillipines when I left. Why? Even lower wages and more lax environmental controls along with cheaper bribes...as Carlin described '...we're in a nice downward glide. I call it circling the drain...'.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:57 | 2370149 WhiteNight123129
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Well the lazy stay in America and the ones who prefer to have a job and build their lives go back to Mexico that´s that simple. I am European, landed in America in 1999 (by lack of Luck, since I had studied Chinese -- but Europe is even worse than America). After 4 years of training and progressing in my job, I headed to South America where I live and the business opportunities are better.

 

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 12:25 | 2370260 Marc_W
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I was leaving the gym a few months ago and two Hispanic women were speaking Spanish just outside to one another.  The only word I recognized was "welfare."

 

That's why they are here.  To be parasites on the white race.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 14:17 | 2370715 Taint Boil
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But also true for blacks, whites ..... etc, etc. I once partied with a white girl (in the 80's) who was also trying to get pregnant so she too could get on the gravy train

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:28 | 2369771 tu-ne-cede-malis
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It certainly says something about a country when people would rather be ruled by drug lords than greater-than-thou politicians.  Adios, amigos!

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:40 | 2369824 Buckaroo Banzai
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Don't be absurd-- we've been ruled by drug lords for the past 50 years.

Google up "Zapata Oil offshore platforms" and "Mena AFB". Dig around a little bit on "Operation Just Cause".

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:56 | 2369914 kridkrid
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The stories are so absurd that they are hard to believe... so most people choose to not believe.  For example, when you want to discuss building 7...

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:32 | 2370055 Chupacabra-322
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@ Kridkrid, what like that 2 planes actually hit 3 buildings.  Remember we're living in Orwellian times where the math doesn't add up.  1 + 1 = 3

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 15:47 | 2371231 Kobe Beef
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"What Building 7?"

-Final Report of The 9/11 Commission.

Memory hole. How many fingers, Winston?

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:05 | 2369950 Vince Clortho
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Goes back much farther than that.  The British East Indies Company; The SE Asian Wars in China, Laos, Vietnam etc  all were all hip deep in controlling and profiting from the Drug Trade from that region.  Also note that Drug Production in Afghanistan has increased since the U.S. moved its military in there.

There is information all over the Internet for anyone who is curious.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:09 | 2369964 DaveyJones
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and of course there's Afghanistan, the ultimate military drug operation

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:23 | 2370016 kridkrid
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and it's not like the poppy fields are hidden... in fact, they need pretty good sun, I believe.  Afghanistan it the top opium producer in the world... without a close second.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_production_in_Afghanistan  - and it's on the rise.  Amazing side story that nobody seems interested in covering.  

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:33 | 2370051 DaveyJones
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I'd say they "covered" it pretty well. The Taliban, consolidating power, were killing drug lords and killing production. After we came in and saved democracy, production is back and above previous numbers.

Poppies will make them sleep...

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:44 | 2369846 Gohn Galt
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Even old woman know, better to live with man-eating tiger than with oppressive government.  Confucius

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 22:27 | 2372154 HeavydutyMexica...
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The real drug lords live in the US pendejo.  What's happening in Mexico is called destabalization.  Drug money is the WD-40 of the US economy dumb ass.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 23:22 | 2372287 FeralSerf
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Drug lords?  Are you referring the the Royal House of Windsor?

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/esp_sociopol_blacknobil1...

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:28 | 2369773 YuropeanImbecille
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I hope the africans and arabs of europe will start moving back to botswana or wherever they came from too!

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:32 | 2369792 Gully Foyle
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YuropeanImbecille

Gee bunky, since mankind started in Africa, wouldn't that leave Europe empty if everyone of African descent returned home?


Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:40 | 2369827 YuropeanImbecille
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If you seriosly believe that I pity the fool as Mr. T would have said.

 

We do not want a South Africa here where you can't even stop at the red light without fear of being raped and murdered by a big gang of africanized europeans. Sweden with 30% africans and arabs have the highest rape numbers in the world! (second to some islamizized african country of course)

 

Here at zero hedge we do not deny people the truth? or do we?

 

Check charts:

crime in Sweden

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Anm%C3%A4lda_brott_1950-2005.svg

 

the chart follows the immigration chart perfectly!

 

but I guess here at zero hedge we only accept certain truths and in other areas we behave like the people we mock right?

 

 

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:43 | 2369845 Gully Foyle
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YuropeanImbecille

WAFFEN, is that you?


Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:47 | 2369861 Spastica Rex
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We have Africanized honey bees in the US. Pretty much the same thing.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 12:05 | 2370167 francis_sawyer
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"laden" or "unladen"?... (or "Bin"-Laden)?

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:22 | 2369958 owensdrillin
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbMnA3uO9As&feature=related

 

I think we will find that Mexican immigrants are not the problem. They want to adapt to our lifestyle, not change it.

We are seeing this in every part of the western world and it will be all over before we know it. It is time to change laws in western society to prevent this and all political correctness be damned.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:25 | 2370027 YuropeanImbecille
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Yes the Mexicans seem like a civilized people, but we only have Arabs with genetic defects and Africans with no impulse control at all. Creating Chaos and degeneration wherever they go.

 

http://www.bmj.com/content/333/7573/831.full

 

It is really sad how the marxists have raped Europe both physically and mentally as well as financially.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:46 | 2370107 Spastica Rex
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You forgot "metaphorically" and "transcendentally."

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:49 | 2370121 Buckaroo Banzai
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"They want to adapt to our lifestyle, not change it"??

Seriously??!?!? WTF are you smoking.

Clearly you have never been to Los Angeles. There are big parts of town where you won't find english written or spoken for miles. Spend a little time on the FM airwaves and count the number of spanish language stations on the dial.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 13:10 | 2370443 Spastica Rex
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As a poor white Catholic who's ancestors came to Murica about 200 years ago, I find I have more in common with the brown folks in my town than with the WASPy BMW driving status-quo.

Scary thought, I bet.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 13:25 | 2370504 DaveyJones
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they will be 50% of the US population by 2030 so that kinda goes with the territory. But don't worry, your future boss will insist you speak Chinese.    

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 13:28 | 2370515 Spastica Rex
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Will there still be brown people to cut my lawn? I don't want to live in a future where I have to do it myself.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 12:19 | 2370229 DosZap
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I think we will find that Mexican immigrants are not the problem. They want to adapt to our lifestyle, not change it.

BULLSHIT........................

Just like the Muslims, come in, and set up enclaves and stay separate, and want their OLD countries system of laws......Shariah shit.

Double Bullshit.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 12:57 | 2370394 owensdrillin
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That's what the attachment to my post was about. Muslims who want to completely change the lifestyle of the west. That is the problem, not the Mexicans. Sure there are some problems when there is too much illegal immigration but nothing like we are going to see from having open borders with muslim countries.

I spoke to a guy from Britain when in Mexico last year and he told me his daughter's school now has a muslim lunch program that the entire school has to eat. They are over running Europe and I think it is already too late there and do not want to see it happen in North America. I have way less of a problem with any other immigrants as at least they make an attempt to fit in.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 23:30 | 2372314 FeralSerf
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Now do you know how the Native Americans felt?  Payback time, eh?

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:32 | 2369794 i love cholas
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If you're going to be a racist piece of shit, especially on the internet, be a man and type you pussy.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:36 | 2369808 YuropeanImbecille
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What is racist about wanting to get rid of crime and disease? or have we fallen that low that FACTS are racyss now?

OR do we have a parasite swinging the racist word around to be able to continue parasite on a civilised society??? hmmm?

 

 

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:39 | 2369821 Gully Foyle
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YuropeanImbecille

"What is racist about wanting to get rid of crime and disease?"

Dude, I hear you. Fuck the Irish!

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 23:49 | 2372356 FeralSerf
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You'll have to wait your turn.  The English aren't done yet and they don't deal with queue jumpers kindly.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:47 | 2369866 Spastica Rex
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The final solution to strengthen the strain - now what is that, again?

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:53 | 2369895 Gully Foyle
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Spastica Rex

"The final solution to strengthen the strain - now what is that, again?"

Spreading your seed far and wide?

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:38 | 2370077 Spastica Rex
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Don't mess with Viking, bitch.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:50 | 2370123 Buckaroo Banzai
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Steve Sailer calls them "hate facts".

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:51 | 2370128 Spastica Rex
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OK, Viking, why are all those brown and black people in Europa? Did they just get lost or something whilst wandering about?

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 15:55 | 2371258 Kobe Beef
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They were imported to destroy social cohesion in Europe. Most stay for all the "free" homes, healthcare, transfer payments, etc. Oh wait, diversity is our strength.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 16:31 | 2371360 Spastica Rex
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OK, thanks. I always thought it was to do lazy fat-assed white people's dirty jobs for cheap. I stand corrected.

 

Wed, 04/25/2012 - 03:15 | 2372586 Kobe Beef
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I'm not exempting lazy white elites who love importing cheap labor. They're one half of the problem. You're absolutely right about that.

The other half is that Mark Duggan, Mohamed Benmouna, Fayçal Chaaban, Zied Benna, Bouna Traoré, and their cohorts were not just washing dishes, picking berries, and peacefully assimilating in their adoptive homelands.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:45 | 2370102 DosZap
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At least they have the option of leaving legally, and having dual citizenship , without it legallly..........

What a life!................would that we were so lucky.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 12:15 | 2370172 nick howdy
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I'm 3/16th part Native American, so I have super freaking minority type power....and I say I hope all you damn invaders get off my land...From my position (on the couch drinking myself silly) you people are just a bunch of screw-ups.

I hate the world you made. You fucked yourselves silly, because you thought God wanted you to and  made the earth so crowded that you basically priced yourselves out of the freedom that you desired.

Since you can't put the sperm genie back in the bottle..I call for mass extermination..This is the only cure!

OK ...I'm just kidding...I'm not even 3/16th's  Native American....But I think my inability to hold my liqueur should count for something in this world.

Wed, 04/25/2012 - 00:15 | 2372403 FeralSerf
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Isn't consumption of alcoholic beverages illegal for Native Americans?

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 12:29 | 2370281 Marc_W
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At least you Europeans will start to understand white racism in America now.  Mud people are truly savages, as you are finding out.  How many of your daughters must be raped?  How many of your sons must be robbed and murdered?  Before you'll stand up for yourselves?

 

The answer in America is - millions upon millions.  Europeans refuse to stand up for themselves against the violence of the mud people.

 

If you want them gone you're going to have to make them gone.  That Anders guy in Norway took a good first step.

 

He was trying to inspire you to action.  You didn't follow his good example.  Get guns.  Shoot brown people.

Wed, 04/25/2012 - 13:34 | 2374087 DOT
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This country and its precursors have followed that method for centuries.

Call it the European method.

You call for genocide; you totally worthless fuck.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:31 | 2369787 toady
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I've seen this in AZ for the last few years. SB1070 & Sheriff Joe have pretty much killed the Hispanic communities here, and the money that kept those parts of town alive all went South.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:33 | 2369793 Rubbish
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It now takes maps and 3 days of study to just go fishing, hunting, shooting, riding or building a campfire in California. I'd go back too.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:41 | 2370089 grid-b-gone
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Just step three or four states to the east, and one or two north and you can do all those things plus ride your ATV short distances on public roads to get to them. Take your snowmobile to the store in winter - make it a two-stroke and wind it out. Break out that leaf blower at-will.

There's also still plenty of freedom north of MA on the east coast and in many rural, southern and midwest locations. The U.S. is not well-represented by CA, Vegas, D.C., or it's top financial institutions. 

While you're at it, start a business in one of these locations for half off the CA start-up cost.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:32 | 2369795 Agent P
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Come in on the third verse, everybody...1,2,3

South of the border, I rode back one day...

 

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:33 | 2369796 Robslob
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Don't have to tell me...my Nanny split a month ago as it was getting to expensive to stay here in the U.S.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:48 | 2369873 Gully Foyle
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http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0377744/

A Day Without a Mexican

One day California wakes up and not a single Latino is left in the state. They have all inexplicably dissappeared, chaos, tragedy, and comedy quickly ensue.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8t8DCSP020

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:52 | 2370104 Spastica Rex
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Actually, where I live, there are a bunch of really succesful agricultural outfits and hotel chains that would like to see poor white people doing the jobs that poor brown people are doing now. It would just make them feel better to see the white folks sharing in the prosperity of the brown folks.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 12:15 | 2370212 Uncle Remus
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Ya know, there's just something Twilight Zoney about that...

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 13:04 | 2370422 Spastica Rex
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Yeah, about lots of stuff these days.

+1

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:33 | 2369798 q99x2
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Open the border. Quick.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:43 | 2369841 Azannoth
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Yes please! So they can leave quicker!

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 12:31 | 2370288 Marc_W
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The U.S. borders have been open for decades.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:34 | 2369799 i love cholas
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USA is no longer the land of opprotunity.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 12:18 | 2370235 Uncle Remus
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No dearth of crises' however - so you'd think there'd be veritable cornucopia of opprotunity [sic].

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 13:44 | 2370582 zerozulu
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Looks like sooner along with these Mexican immigrants, American dream will move south too.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:35 | 2369802 SoNH80
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Good food, nice warm weather, lower cost of living, and the migrants are from the southern Mexican states where there's less of the Scarface violence.... makes sense to me... maybe these amigos have finally figured out that we *North* Americans aren't exactly living in paradise these days....

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:41 | 2369826 Gully Foyle
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SoNH80

Dude, there was an article about US retirees moving to Mexico because it was so cheap not only to live but receive medical care.

Cost something like $100 yearly to buy into the Mexican healthcare system.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:47 | 2369863 SoNH80
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I'd go, but I don't do the tropics very well.  I have that lovely Northern European "Irish Tan" skin tone that would ensure I'd turn into a chimichanga in short order, I'm more of a cold-weather beast.  I have thought about Patagonia, though.... I speak enough Spanish to get by

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:52 | 2369891 Gully Foyle
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SoNH80

Similar issue, Melanoma. I'm supposed to dress like Darkman everytime I go outside.

I consider New Zealand.



Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:04 | 2369948 Sauk Leader
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Putting an Irishman in the sun is like sticking a fork in a microwave.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:36 | 2370067 Hannibal
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Punta Arenas ,Chile will keep you mighty cool!

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:33 | 2370058 CoolBeans
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While there are surely some exceptions...who in their right mind would feel okay about getting sick or injured in Mexico?   Scary.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:37 | 2369814 hedgeless_horseman
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as Mexicans become Mexican'ts

Or, as Mexicans become Mexitcans.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:37 | 2369815 Bicycle Repairman
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Let me know when the H1B visa people start leaving and Americans can have their good paying high tech jobs back.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:56 | 2369915 toady
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I've seen some go, mostly the ones from India. Now that the lifestyle has risen a little there (they actually have cars and tv now!) They can go back and live like kings, as long as they saved and didn't get sucked into the consumer turbine.

The Paki's are the ones that won't go back no matter what.... I can't say I blame them!

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:02 | 2369942 InconvenientCou...
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"The H1B visa people" Are the corporate owners of the U.S. A.K.A -the winners.

Foreign educated scientists and engineers are dedicated, hard working and opportunistic. The values that America has clearly lost whilst everyone is busy determining whom to blame.

Don't worry, they will leave when they realize that this value system was a hollow shell and is now just an angry, entitled mob with the reading skills of a 6th grader and the math skills of a 3rd grader.

 

 

 

 

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:52 | 2370120 Bicycle Repairman
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"Foreign educated scientists and engineers are dedicated, hard working and opportunistic."

Foreign educated scientists and engineers are paid less, are coerced by the green card system and are government subsidized. I've dealt with them and they are nothing special.

America's economy will not recover until high paying private sector American jobs are performed by Americans.

Kick them out and deal with the people that promoted this visa scam.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:38 | 2369817 Dr. Engali
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It's a sad statement when south of the border offers more opportunity than the U.S.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:44 | 2369851 pepperspray
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Thank you Bain Capital

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:15 | 2369984 Dr. Engali
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Bain Capital alone isn't responsible for this mess. They are only a symptom.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 12:33 | 2370293 Marc_W
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ZH is run by a bunch of multi-millionaire Bain capital types.  They have spent their entire professional lives destroying the American working class.  It is no wonder, then, that they support illegal Hispanic immigration into the U.S. as demonstrated by the tone of this article.

 

"unauthorized Hispanic immigrants."

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:40 | 2369822 Gohn Galt
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I said it, Ron Paul said it.  The Patriot Act was based off of the Russian Gulag system.  I hear Hershey's and Walmart are looking for brutal management, get a jump on your neighbor before your both put in the labor camp, people with morals need not apply.

 

 

 

 

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 11:03 | 2369946 rwe2late
Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:40 | 2369823 boiltherich
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And as a son of the Irish Diaspora who is about ready to call it quits and head for Ireland I say it will get worse, next the Germans and Scots, Puerto Ricans and Chinese, pretty soon all that will be left are the untaxed billionaires and the DAR, maybe some Haitians.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 12:34 | 2370300 Marc_W
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The niggers aren't going anywhere, that's for sure.  They'll stay on the East coast like the cancer they are.

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:41 | 2369825 WhyDoesItHurtWh...
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"Mexicans become Mexican'ts"

love the "Machete" reference, time to "Chango"

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:42 | 2369830 francis_sawyer
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Cancel the trip to Spain... Looks like FLOTUS is going to have to hoe her own okra this year in the rose garden...

Tue, 04/24/2012 - 10:56 | 2369911 krispkritter
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That'd make two hoes in the garden?

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