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US Starts New Fiscal Year With $14.837 Trillion In Debt, $142 Billion Increase In Two Days

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Tue, 10/04/2011 - 18:35 | 1739340 LeonardoFibonacci
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I am wounded but not slain, i will lay me down to bleed a while and rise to fight again mutherfuckers! Don't touch my fucking gold

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 19:07 | 1739441 malusDiaz
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Do you want to Occupy Wall Street?  Then withdraw 100$ in change and do something about it.


Do you REALLY want to Occupy Wall Street? Then spread the word and withdraw 200$ in change.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 19:17 | 1739473 mfoste1
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death by stoning with fiat coins i hear is the new rave

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 21:02 | 1739734 slewie the pi-rat
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Tue, 10/04/2011 - 22:54 | 1740009 i-dog
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Another year ... another $2 trillion! Should just make it to $16.666 trillion of DEBT in time for martial law and a cancelled election this time next year.

Fri, 11/11/2011 - 00:39 | 1868975 haibop
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Christmas is coming. be happy!

Tue, 12/27/2011 - 14:42 | 2014198 haibop
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Happy new year! get your wife back

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 20:30 | 1739652 dwdollar
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I love it! Only it would be called fiat coining! A quarter in the eyeball would fucking hurt bad. I suppose a more effective way would be to drop several bags full of coins on them from a considerable height.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 20:36 | 1739676 hambone
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Is $14trillion more than a million??? 


Joe six pack

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 02:20 | 1740317 Dugald
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Get out your blunderbusses, charge with nickles n dimes and, Eh? Oh! well try the local museum get with it, this could be your day....

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 19:33 | 1739515 Ahmeexnal
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pre 1964 change!

Sat, 12/24/2011 - 03:31 | 2008938 haibop
Tue, 10/04/2011 - 23:22 | 1740057 chet
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Also this means is that even if the Super Committee does what it is supposed to, that we'll be having another debt ceiling stand-off in the months before the 2012 election.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 18:40 | 1739353 caerus
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Tue, 10/04/2011 - 19:06 | 1739430 DormRoom
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wtf.. Keynes strictly says to pay down debts after stimulus spending, and in periods of  economic vitality.   Governments ignore this warning.  And the people fail to warn governments about its economic complacency.


Everyone is in the circle jerk.  No one wants to be that guy who says the party has to end.  Keynes was the adult in the room, and warned against the abuses of debt.


p.s.  Keynes also wanted against removing the USD from the gold peg.  But the US ignored him then also.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 19:38 | 1739527 faustian bargain
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Keynes was the jerk who lent credibility to the insane idea of 'stimulus' spending. Doesn't matter what he may have said about what the government 'should' do. What matters is, they took the ball and ran with it.

If he were so all-fired enthusiastic about gold, he should have known that deficit spending is a bad idea all around. The government should be discouraged from meddlesome 'stimulus' spending from the beginning. What Keynes did was to open the door and get the party started.

Saying he was the adult in the room is not exactly true. More like, he was the chaperone that booked the hotel room and then looked the other way.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 19:52 | 1739567 Dr. Acula
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>Keynes was the adult in the room

He was a discredited pseudoscientist. His theories were thoroughly debunked by Hazlitt and they merit no further consideration.


Tue, 02/21/2012 - 23:16 | 2183238 haibop
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bad indeed. tw

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 20:28 | 1739656 nmewn
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"p.s.  Keynes also wanted against removing the USD from the gold peg.  But the US ignored him then also."

Keynes was a moldering skeleton long before Nixon was president. I think you need to explain the dynamics of time travel a little better ;-)

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 20:35 | 1739674 dwdollar
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That's debatable... however... To think that governments would have the discipline to not spend when times were "good" is idiotic to say the least.

Sat, 11/26/2011 - 11:48 | 1915106 haibop
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dumb isn't? walk in cooler

Wed, 10/05/2011 - 01:03 | 1740224 Calmyourself
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He was a Fabian nothing else really matters..

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 19:06 | 1739431 DormRoom
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Tue, 05/01/2012 - 21:05 | 2389831 haibop
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that bad? Inteligator

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 18:40 | 1739357 DeadFred
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??? Unless my arithmetic is off they won't last another full week. Am I missing something?

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 18:57 | 1739412 Atomizer
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Ah yes, but our elected public servants were told it would get the Government thru until November 18th. Fuzzy math and great orators save the US operating under no budget plans.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 19:19 | 1739458 mikla
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??? Unless my arithmetic is off they won't last another full week. Am I missing something?

It's mere accounting "trickery" where it's a convenient "accident" for the spending to occur over two days.

The $142B in two days is "pent-up accounting" where they were holding out for a convenient "reporting time".  That's why it was split over two days (different quarters, different fiscal years).  You're not seeing the additional "pent-up" debit-ing, for which they will account on some other convenient "date" as it is forced upon them.

So, these "run-rates" are not real.  They don't mean anything, and you cannot project based upon them.  They do not correlate with anything in particular, except for end-of-quarter, or "holiday weekend" reporting where they hope people don't notice.

Further, they are only accounting for those things that cannot be "hidden" through other means.  For example, they are accounting for "roll-over" debt and actual disbursements (e.g., SS/Medicare), and not intra-governmental transfers (where the *real* debt is held, and which is not accounted until it becomes a cash-flow issue).

Accounting at this stage is merely about immediate cash-flow needs that cannot be hidden.  It doesn't mean anything.  (None of this accounting matters.)

Welcome to exponential blowout.  This is what it looks like.  It's a math thing.  Only very small children and elected officials don't understand it.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 19:51 | 1739566 Winisk
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Good to see you posting once in awhile.  I've always respected your perspective.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 23:41 | 1740095 boiltherich
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Anytime the first falls on a weekend or a holiday those payments due on the first are disbursed on the immediate business day prior to the first.  Social security, disabled vets like me, federal employees, railroad retirement, military pay and contract disbursements, just to name a few, but this month it was a special case because the first was not just the first of the month, it was the first of the fiscal year.  It has to go out on Friday September 30 but is not booked in the 2011 FY accounts.  Also, there are a lot of payments that for whatever reason got held through the year but which have to be paid by law in that fiscal year. 

Things are bad enough without trying to extrapolate a 26 trillion dollar deficit for 2012 because of the first two days of debt. 

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 19:24 | 1739486 bobert
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You are way off.

They may last another eight weeks :)

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 19:51 | 1739487 bobert
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sorry for the fat finger double post.

Sat, 11/19/2011 - 14:24 | 1894281 haibop
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this is pretty good news. walk in freezer

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 18:41 | 1739361 jm
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I know it's a scandal and I know it is crazy.  But for some weird reason it just doesn't matter right now.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 18:48 | 1739385 fyrebird
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You've blown a fuse, that's all. I blow about three a week these days.

I suggest five shots of JD, a woman you don't know very well, and waking up in a city park in a city two states removed.

You'll be back to your old self. Let us know how it went, you know how much we care.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 19:11 | 1739457 Phil Free
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Stub your toe?  Or is American Idol on?

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 19:25 | 1739492 jm
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The third biggest bond market on the planet is sizzling over the flames.  This one is offering negative yields. 

You can't blame the difference on a Red Bull overdose.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 19:26 | 1739496 bobert
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I think you meant "X Factor."

Thu, 12/29/2011 - 13:44 | 2019646 haibop
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This doesn't look too promising. beacon payday loans

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 18:42 | 1739364 sockcutter moto...
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its like everyone wants to play monopoly for just a little longer so they keep on adding their own hand drawn currency

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 18:46 | 1739369 Racer
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uhave ta go spen munnee to go safe frum goin bancrup, duncha no

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 18:45 | 1739372 fyrebird
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Ha! $15T -- it's just a flesh wound!

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 18:51 | 1739395 Hansel
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Why doesn't someone just write a check and pay it off?  It's not that hard.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 19:28 | 1739503 bobert
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A bank draft or would it be a cashiers check?

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 20:34 | 1739672 smiler03
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Well my checks (cheques) only have a space one inch wide for the amount in digits. I'd have to write out about 1000 checks but my bank's printers are apparently too busy to print more checks.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 21:14 | 1739728 Zero Govt
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its not your Bank is "too bizzy (busy) to print cheques" ...it's that Visa and Mastercard, architects of the fantasy era built on credit card castles in the sky have now effortlessly moved onto everyones bank debit cards as credit gets stigmatised by society through its bad experiences (of Visa and Mastercards collapsing castles of rotten debt)

Visa and Mastercard are the 2 greatest global money monopolists, probably greater than any monopolist central bank ...the fact you never hear a bad word about them is testament to their unholy power over media, politicians (even shreeking trigger-happy socialists don't make a single squeek) and bankers ...takes someone like Rothchild to manage such a global stitch-up of their primary part in this Great (Credit=Debt) Depression and to arrive so stealthily and un-announced on everyones Bank debit cards

so cheques (cost 20p/22Cents) are on their way out and the vastly more efficient electronic cheque (all computerised, cost next to zero) is ready with those same global monopolists, Visa and Mastercard, in pole position to rake in even more business... and some charges I've seen on debit cards range up to £2.90-$3.50 for the 'privilege'.... the rip-off has begun by the V & M global monopolists (The Parasite Club) and just as disturbing these monopolist middle men now have access to everyones financial transactions

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 21:07 | 1739747 sgorem
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one of these days in the very near future, we'll all be looking back @ the $15 TRILLION in our rear view mirrors and opining for the "good ole days"....... of ONLY $15 trillion in debt........fuck the world.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 18:45 | 1739377 faustian bargain
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It's like whipping a dead cat with a rain-catching sieve on a driverless bus accelerating off a cliff blindfolded into a black hole of debt.

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 18:50 | 1739392 fyrebird
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OMG, that's exactly what it's like! What are you -- like an economist or something? Someone quick, alert the Nobel committee!

Tue, 10/04/2011 - 18:57 | 1739411 faustian bargain
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I got a PhD in mixed metaphors.

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