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USS Stennis Supposedly Leaves Straits Of Hormuz, Replaced By USS Lincoln With USS Vinson Staying Put, But Not Just Yet
For those following the latest naval developments in the general Arabian Sea area and the Straits of Hormuz in particular, the latest news is that the duo of Aircraft carriers on location, as was reported last week, the USS Stennis and USS Vinson, has became a trio, with the arrival of the USS Lincoln, however, if only briefly. According to the US Navy's website, CVN 74 Stennis has left the 5th Fleet, and is now back in the 7th fleet, on its way home. Yet this is somewhat contradictory with the following picture posted on the facebook profile of one CVN 72 Abraham Lincoln (yes, faceook), which quite vividly shows CVN 74 - the same Stennis - and CVN 72, Lincoln, side by side, at least as of this morning. As such, absent further photographic evidence to the contrary, it may be the case that while the Stennis is planned to be on its way back, but in reality is still in the vicinity. Which begs the question: why three aircraft carriers in the Arabian Sea, and for how long?
From Lincoln's facebook profile: two aircraft carriers... caringly side by side.
And positioning updates from the Navy, first on the Stennis:
Stennis Strike Group Enters 7th Fleet Area of Operations
USS JOHN C. STENNIS, At Sea (NNS) -- John C. Stennis Strike Group (JCSSG) entered the U.S. 7th Fleet area of operations(AOO) Jan. 19 after nearly three months supporting Operations Enduring Freedom (OEF) and New Dawn (OND), as well as maritime security operations and anti-piracy efforts in the U.S. 5th Fleet AOO.
While operating in the seas surrounding the Arabian Peninsula, JCSSG played a pivotal role in the drawdown of U.S. forces in Iraq and provided aviation support to coalition ground troops in Afghanistan.
After conducting weeks of command and control support operations to coalition forces in OND, an E-2C Hawkeye from the "Golden Hawks" of Carrier Airborne Early Warning Squadron (VAW) 112 embarked aboard Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS John C. Stennis (CVN 74) flew the last Navy aviation mission over Iraq Dec. 18.
"Flying the last Navy air mission in Iraq was a historic achievement for all of us," said Capt. Dale Horan, commander of Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 9 embarked aboard Stennis, the flag ship of the strike group.
"Everyone in this strike group played a part in making that happen and it's a part of history we will always share," Horan said.
In January, after transitioning from OND to supporting operations in Afghanistan, JCSSG forces thwarted an attempted pirate attack on a Bahamian-flagged cargo vessel, then freed a group of Iranian mariners held captive by the same crew of suspected pirates.
"This was a well-executed display of the mutli-mission capability of the carrier strike group and a testament to the professionalism of our Sailors," said Stennis' Command Master Chief Stanley Jewett.
In the 7th Fleet AOO, the strike group plans to conduct several readiness exercises with partner countries in the region as well as visits to Singapore and the Philippines before preparing to head back to the United States.
"The manner in which we've conducted ourselves and executed our mission is indicative of the character of our Sailors and the spirit of our country," said JCSSG commander, Rear Adm. Craig Faller. "While we have much to accomplish before returning home, and I'm confident that we will finish our deployment with the same level of professionalism and personal conduct we've displayed throughout."
The JCSSG consists of Stennis, the guided-missile cruiser USS Mobile Bay (CG 53), aircraft from CVW 9, and guided missile destroyers USS Pinckney (DDG 91), USS Kidd (DDG 100), USS Dewey (DDG 105), and USS Wayne E. Meyer (DDG 108) from Destroyer Squadron 21.
And next, the Lincoln:
Abraham Lincoln Arrives in U.S. 5th Fleet
By Mass Communication Specialist Seaman Zachary Welch, Carrier Strike Group 9 Public Affairs
USS ABRAHAM LINCOLN, At Sea (NNS) -- The Abraham Lincoln Carrier Strike Group (CSG) arrived for a routine deployment in the U.S. 5th Fleet area of operations (AOO), Jan. 19.
Abraham Lincoln conducted work-ups for months to train, man and equip the CSG prior to it deploying to the U.S. 5th Fleet AOO, to support maritime security operations, counter-piracy operations, theater security cooperation efforts, and conduct air missions over Afghanistan for Operation Enduring Freedom.
"Our strike group has trained countless hours to ensure our Sailors are ready to conduct vital operations," said Rear Adm. Mike Shoemaker, commander, CSG 9. "We're looking forward to working closely with our coalition and regional partners to keep the sea lanes safe and secure for the free flow of maritime commerce that is so important for the continued prosperity of nations in this region and around the world."
Abraham Lincoln CSG is comprised of Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 2, guided-missile cruiser USS Cape St. George (CG 71) and embarked Destroyer Squadron (DESRON) 9, which includes the guided-missile destroyers USS Momsen (DDG 92) and USS Sterett (DDG 104).
"From our air wing to the destroyer squadron and other surface combatant ships, we have a fantastic team," said Capt. John D. Alexander, Lincoln's commanding officer. "We provide a flexible, adaptable and persistent force that will support the regional commander by providing the greatest assets the Navy has to offer."
The arrival of Lincoln brings the number of aircraft carriers to two within the U.S. 5th Fleet AOO. Carl Vinson arrived in theater, Jan. 9. A second aircraft carrier in the U.S. Central Command area of responsibility (AOR) ensures the U.S. military has the naval and air capabilities to support operational requirements while adequately meeting other security commitments in the region. The aircraft carriers will simultaneously conduct operations in different areas of the AOR, to adequately provide support operations requirements and other security commitments in the region.
Abraham Lincoln departed its homeport of Everett, Wash., Dec. 7, for a deployment to the U.S. 5th and 7th Fleet AOOs. The ship departed Laem Chabang, Thailand, Jan. 10, following a four-day port visit prior to transiting to U.S. 5th Fleet. Following deployment, Lincoln will change homeports from Everett, Wash., to Norfolk, Va., for a periodic refueling complex overhaul.
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Hey ... psst ... there are WMD in Canada too.
Easiest thing to do BLAME CANADA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SDrqa-eTXU
Just wanted to provide an interestign counter point via Veteran's Affairs Magazine.
The USS Carl Vincent, which shot down the Iran Air jet back when, supposedly de-commisioned in November last year, is lurking in full war-paint at a pliant arab nations port, waiting to be false flagged in "revenge" by iran.
in this mad world, I would not be one bit surprised.
ori
shattering-midass-curse-gold-de-spell-ed/
I don't want to rain on anyone's conspiracy theory parade, but it was USS Vincennes that shot down the Iranian airliner. Carl Vinson is not only a different ship, it's an entirely different kind of ship - an aircraft carrier. Vincennes was a cruiser. Now back to our regularly scheduled tin foil hats...
Right, I meant Vincennes.
Thanks.
ori
The USS Carl Vinson (CVN-70) is an Aircraft Carrier and pictured above...The USS Vincennes (CG-49) was a Heavy Cruiser and was responsible for shooting down the Iranian airliner in 1988.
3 carriers associated escorts subs and such 100 Billion plus?
Cheap! That's less than a bank bailout...
I wouldn't be surprised to wake up one morning and hear on the news how an Iranian fishing boat that was being rescued also just happened to be loaded with TNT.
I was thinking they were spy boats.
Another Kinetic war?
Let the bombs of peace drop on thee
Maybe the plan is to send an aircraft carrier into the Persian Gulf and test Iran's apparent threat to disallow entry. Having three aircraft carriers on hand might be prudent. Of course, a sunburn missile or three might make that two aircraft carriers.
http://thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com/2011/02/why-do-you-fail-to-heed-me....
I don't know really. Combining the Surface ships into a Task Battle Force instead of a stripped down CVBG will assist in networking versus such a dangerous missile.
I would like to think our Navy will deal with the Sunburn. But if they do get through and sink a carrier, this Nation will unite within hours and cry for blood.
That will be a day to remember.
In world war two we lost dozens of carriers in battle and patched them up, hosed off the gore and went back into battle.
As a side note the USS Ronald Regean has gone into dry dock for extensive repairs. That was the ship near Japan using it's nuclear water wash down system when Fukushima was going on not far away.
I have a feeling the Regean will benefit from decontamination and replacement of material hit by radiation.
Spirit Of Truth
Of what spirit are you?
You are either of one or the other.
All of us are from the dust of the earth.
If more than a man from the dust of the earth?
Bearings must be off by more than a few degrees then...
Don't get me wrong. You have a pretty extensive blog with a lot of info that is obviously the fruit of your labor.
But some things I am reading that you claim just don't sit well with my being.
Perhaps my perceptions are a bit off as I know than I am infinitely fallible just as any other man (species).
If I am reading what you imply on that link incorrectly then enlighten me...
http://edition.cnn.com/2012/01/19/world/meast/arabian-sea-us-carrier/index.html?hpt=hp_t3
Elliott Wave wave-3 of wave-3 of wave-C of Supercycle degree+ may be imminent, i.e., the "Prechter Point" of the Apocalypse Wave.
http://thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com/2011/05/edge-of-cliff.html
http://www.spiritoftruth.org/Thesis/Intro
Not in this world to win fans....just tell the truth.
-J
Next thing you know TPTB will conjure up some BS reason to grab gold from Canada. Oil too!
Canada ain't got no gold. The queen took it.
Correct.
All Canada's got is frostbacks, cheeseheads and hosers, and they are pretty thin on the ground at that. eh?
don't forget $15 trillion worth of oil
Oh, yeah- there's that too.
51st state, anyone?
over my dead body
a very powerful little lady, the Queen. Just ask Obama...
He won't go anywhere or do anything without her...
Hey... pssst... manipulate the price of oil below $100 per barrel and the capital costs and energy required will make tars sands not profitable. No need for military action when you have a crack group of financial terrorists working for you.
72 = 7+2 = 9
74 = 7+4 = 11
Bitchez
"You better wake up and smell a real flavor / cause 911 is a fake life saver"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ-ldcnhsLY
Flava Flav!
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/396507_10150528813797200_...
side by side like twin towers in the water.
This is way to creepy and totally in your face.
Its like up yours what are you going to do about it?
9 and 11 are pretty powerful masonic numbers are they not?
and they're both on either side of 10!
fuck.
The tenth plague upon Egypt - angel of death - QUACK!
Yeah dats like ... dats just ... well, dat freaks me out man! ... I want mother ... mommy! ... deeze numberz prolly call da devil and baddy all-sortz to make scarey faces from da closet of doom ... oh look ... i whet myself ... AGAIN! ... Bwwahahaha!
aVian- I don't give a toss if some dumbshit like Ronald McRaygun goes to an astrologer, or if a bunch of cross-dressing masons have an obsession with number coincidence, or if numerology is an occult practice.
It sucks arse.
Isn't what we know to be verifiable, and actual, and tangible--sufficient?
Do you really expect to get through life buying-in to that sort of krud?
Did you consider the purveyors put 'mysterious' occultist shit about so naive people will make something of it and get sucked in, and thus always come off sounding completely dippy?
Put baseless shit in your head ... and you will think nothing but baseless shit.
Sorry, that's just how a brain operates.
The ancients knew that. That's why they taught others to read from the best books and to listen to the best teachers and to seek real knowledge, and true wisdom.
It's your brain, clean it up.
No one else is going to do it for you.
Weird noises being heard all around the world, very, very strange:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf4e-AxJ7nM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccRBVX5_hMc&feature=player_embedded#%21
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxSulCgmJJA&feature=player_embedded
ELF
Here is a really good one. I thought this might be something military or HAARP, here are some possibilities below:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtLNmdZTf_g&feature=player_embedded
"I looked and I listened, and all I can surmise is, Someone or Something is activating the resonant electromagnetic-acoustic cavity of the Earth, much like a semi-filled wine-glass when you dip your finger in the water or wine and run it smoothly around the lip of the glass.
As you know, given ionisation, you can make a flame become a loudspeaker, a nice one with low system hysteresis.
Well, looking at the varying weather conditions in these videos, from stratified overcast to rain to early-morning frost or pre-dawn dew-deposition, etc, i.e., conditions in which local differentiation in state-change is occurring, one can imagine layers upon layers of varying electrical conduction or varying capacitance adjacent one another, making them more susceptible to modulation at their interfaces by what might be basically either :
a) naturally-occurring or artificially-enhanced electrical-potential differences between ground and upper atmosphere ;
b) harmonic electromagnetic density fluctuations by artificially-induced regular resonant waves of different frequencies causing a transient "beat" and perhaps put out by HAARP or something similar ;
c) Solar Winds, perhaps enhanced in strength either by our Earth's current alleged passing though denser parts of the Galactic Ecliptic and/or by more-than-average energetic processes in the Sun, either independently cyclical as pertains to the body itself, or else, in terms of the Electric Universe, very much enhanced by proximity to denser energy/matter nearer the Galactic Ecliptic ?
I am neither a musician nor a radio engineer, but I am sure a competent one, measuring the beat frequencies, might find the relative resonant harmonic value of them to determine their relationship to the natural electromagnetic resonant cavity of the earth (around 8 cps ("Hz"), 186'282 miles per second, divided by earth circumference 25'000 miles = around 7.5 cps).
So I suspect it may be either :
1. Solar Winds stroking our magnetosphere like a wineglass, or else
2. Someone with nasty human intent is doing something cunning to our Earth's resonances to fulfill their own -- perhaps designer-earthquake ? -- agenda ... ?
Back in the mid-1980s or so, I used to pick up the Russian "Woodpecker" on my all-band SW radio, and it sounded exactly like a woodpecker, too ! According to Col Bearden, they were doing some scalar-wave interferometry, causing hard beats that gave the 'Russian Woodpecker' its name.
These new ones sound like lower-frequency, greater-volume, slower buildup to something far more comprehensive and most likely extremely catastrophic event when it reaches the level where it crosses some material-limits threshold and finally cuts loose."
http://rense.com/general95/opinonst.html
ELF? ... come on! ... that guy just needs to get his arse on the can, and let 'er rip ... ASAP
BTW, ELF is sub-audible and non-directional, humans don't hear it.
Usually a precursor to a bowel movement...
If I was Iran I would launch a submarine sneak attack and send all three carriers to the bottom. What would the US do then? If it starts WWIII then the dude comes out of the well.
Iranian Submarines' Ambush for US Aircraft Carriers in Persian Gulf
TEHRAN (FNA)- A senior Iranian military commander underlined that the Iranian Navy's subsurface vessels enjoy a high capability to confront enemies' threats, and stated that Iran's submarines are able to ambush and hit enemy vessels specially US Aircraft carriers from the seabed throughout the Persian Gulf.
http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9010171671
As interesting as that was, let it serve only in hypothetical-ville and not in the real world. There would be no excuse for a 'sneak attack' by either side.
Yeah, right. I bet OUR subs know exactly where their subs are located.
Just like we seen that Chinese sub surface next to a US carrier not long ago...
Hello!
only until the war starts...then wartime ASW kicks in and subs run like hell and hide.
They have an extensive network of undersea microphones all over that area (and the world). If a fish farts off the iranian coast, we know it.
here watch the Video that caters to India.. one of Iran's largest oil / petrol partners from yesterday.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZl33MKWGhc
if you can enjoy the spin of Iran.. it makes the spin used at home so much easier to enjoy, based on the quality.
Expensive glass floor they'd be buying.
Moron.
Why oh why did we ever get rid of the Math cpatcha???
I don't know why we would want to go the war with Iran - I love Persian Food - Now Canada - Have you ever been to a Canadian restaurant or has anyone said let's go eaten Canadian tonite -
That Canadian Bacon is pretty good on a pizza....
'I don't know why we would want to go the war with Iran' -
because in any fiat system the government has to fall out with everyone including its citizens if it is to force them to accept its currency...
Overkill, bitchez
Not if you intend to provoke WWIII.
just a quick side bar ..........
Fifa General Secretary Jerome Valcke said the right to sell beer must be enshrined in a World Cup law the Brazilian Congress is considering.
Beer 'must be sold' at Brazil World Cup, says Fifahttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-16624823
Now you're making me thirsty. During happy hour please have 1 beer per US warship in the Arabian Sea!
It´s such a friggin pseudo-debate. OF COURSE YOU NEED TO SERVE BEER AT FOTB...OOOOPPS! I mean soccer games.
why didn't they choose the color yellow as a topcoat? easier to like, see!
How about a big red meatball right over the ammo bunkers, as well?
Bluff has been called
Three carrier groups in the area, Iranian threat to torpedo any US warship entering the Strait. It's on.
You know, I think you're right. I mean, I've heard about 500 times how war in the Middle East was imminent for one reason or the other, it didn't happen, but this time, by golly, I think you're right.
Guess we never went to war with Iraq? Or was that Afghanistan? Oh, maybe you mean Lybia? No, wait Egypt...yeah. Not much of the real estate in the Middle East has not had US boots on the ground in the last 10 years. As each regime has fallen, what has that net gained the US? Safety from Terrorists? WMD's found and destroyed? Go back to your mom's basement and play Xbox. Let the adults talk now.
Ladies and Gentlemen, Elvis has left the building.
Maybe Las Vegas Dave can fill us in with some details after watching Hannity today?
Go back to your mom's basement and play Xbox. Let the adults talk now.
That's both unfunny and unoriginal, dickwad. Next I expect you will write a breathless missive on the Sunburn missile capabilities or nuclear torpedoes, or whatever. I wish there was a futures market on this much-discussed Iran-US or Iran-Israel war, because I would be a rich man betting against it. You should get out of your basement, stop reading Tom Clancy novels, and stop playing Call of Duty. Unfortunately, retards like you never learn. The next time you read about an aircraft carrier rotation, you'll be back with your tiresome "It's On" posts.
In pre-WWII Europe, the period before the shooting started was referred to as the "sitzkreig"... funny, until the shooting started.
Okay, think about it from the point of view of the Iranian leaders. Their economy is struggling. Their people are getting restless. What to do? The tried-and-true response is to find an external threat. The U.S. fits that perfectly. But the Iranian leaders don't want a shooting war, because recent history in Iraq and Libya tells you that getting into a shooting war with the U.S. results in regime change. So, the Iranian leaders are exactly where they want to be. They can talk tough and inspire the people back home. It will work as long as they don't get into a shooting war with the U.S. So (in my opinion) they won't.
Struggling? Their currency is being attacked via US led oil sanctions. What if they cannot sell their oil? (60% of GDP).
They are being backed into the corner, and they might not have a way out. So, faced with that scenario, do they just lay down or do they fight?
You mean if they don't sell their oil in dollars?
They lay down.
Iran doesn't have the necessary credit to fight a real war.
Big assumption.
If Germany can prop up PIIGS for a couple of years, what makes you think Russia and China won't prop such a valuable proxy as Iran?
Think about it, they'd be crazy not to.
And they did it in Vietnam ... did they not? ... and Lockheed Martin and the rest got fabulously uber-richerer.
That isn't that the game being played out here?
Why would the bankers give a damn if the US gets creamed?
It simply means they will buy a shitload of new kit.
Paul Krugman wins another Scandinavian econ-prize ... for being such an indispensible economic visionary.
Exactly. On the one hand we have the US navy saying the US needs to quell the tensions ASAP ... so calls off biggest eveh exercise with zion-bros ... and simultaneously directly and very dramatically raises the threat level for Iran's military (can you imagine their readiness alert level right now? ... an what they are planning to do?) and thus teeters the whole situation even more toward a sudden outbreak of hostilities, that forces Iran to almost immediately sew 900 advanced camouflaged sea mines into the Strait within the next 2 hours or so.
Oh yeah ... you can tell ... Washington is so de-escalating this situation ... NOT
As for the exercise being suddenly axed for budget reasons, the Russians probably warned the US that they would treat as hostile any military aircraft it observed behaving suspiciously, so the pentagon decided it was not going to risk a real battle developing and pulled the plug.
You can play the futures market on this, bet right over here on Intrade.
http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/contract/?contractId=750353
If you really think Ron Paul is going to make it, you can make the trade of the century, it's only a 2.6% chance right now.
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Yikes.
One warship -- ignore, symbolic posturing
Two warships -- heated telephone calls, and propagandistic media spin
Three warships -- pressure on, irrational reaction forthcoming.
'Which begs the question: why three aircraft carriers in the Arabian Sea, and for how long?'
Obviously you haven't heard about the Somali pirate problem(s).
Covered:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-16600649
Somewhere in there is the truth of the Somali pirates, and it's all about nuclear waste.
/nuclear-revelation-a-bomb-indeed/
ori
VICE guide tracks down Bulgarian dirty bomb salesman...
http://www.vice.com/the-vice-guide-to-travel/bulgarian-dirty-bombs
food for thought
Pirates! Pastafarians! .... hope they don't hijack the Stennis ... probly have to pay a shitload to get that thing back ...
+1 for the FSM reference. May His Noodly Appendage stroke you into eternal worshipful ecstasy.
Exactly what I am saying. It is not if, it is when and who.
There's also this: Exclusive: New U.S. Commando Team Operating Near Iran
In the region... Duh!
Oh so not ominous!
let's see the last time we had 3 huge (or more) massive weapon systems sitting or docked (or sitting ducked) was what, December 7th........
To provide more easy targets?
How many "friends" does CVN 72 have?
Relevant:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/01/18/new-facebook-app-if-i-die_n_121...
Believe it or not, lo-tech Warren Buffet has had a similar message on deck for years:
Dear Shareholder, Yesterday I died...
Beaucoup friends, called a carrier battle group. Perhaps 35 ships in all: tenders, destroyers, minesweepers, cruisers; light and heavy, submarines; attack and antisubmarine. Oh, don't forget all the land-based fighter-bomber planes in Saudi Arabia and Israel. They'd be friendly refueling bases for the midair refueling tankers so the carrier fighters can stay airborne longer.
Three carrier battle groups is an awesome collection of military force and a considerable deterrent to Iranian shenannigans. It is never too late to pray for peace!
Somebody's getting their straits and gulfs mixed up.
Really think being in the Arabian sea will stop missiles or fighter/bombers from making sortee runs? An F-22 Raptor has an effective range of 410 nautical miles. A tomohawk missile has a range of 900 nautical miles. You have to think in terms of tactical positioning. The Iranians have implicitly stated if a warship enters the Strait, they will torp it. American assets do not even need to be in the Strait to be brought to bear against Iran. This positioning is enough to make ANY nation in a squeeze, like Iran, nervous as a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs.
A Tomahawk missile with mid-air refuelling can go forever, if you have enough KQ-170 mid-air refuelling drones.
And the F-22 is awesome if you bring your own scuba-tanks with you.
Umm, when did Tomahawks get air-air refueling capable? I wouldn't want to be that tanker pilot...
You realise both USN and USMC have precisely zero F-22s?
It's a USAF aircraft, and has an effective combat radius well over 700 nautical miles.
Three groups? I have been following the situation for a few years. This is the first time three have been that close together, that I am aware of.
This is the closest we have been to war with Iran in our life time.
Uhhh
We've been this close to war with Iran for the last 40 years
From their perspective we've already been at war with them for the last 40 years.
Nahh, it was 1953, wasn't it?
that is becuse Iran sunk one of our Boats way back when!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
and Iran would not let any IAEA Inspectors in..
to the real part of the base.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_and_Israel#Dimona_1956.E2.80.931965
Iran is just asking for it!
Iran is so sneeky.. that up until a few weeks ago they were in TOTAL Compliance with the IAEA.. that is becuase Iran fooled the head inspector! without that Fooled Inspector http://therealnews.com/t2/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=31&Itemid=74&jumival=7594 Iran will have to give up that Sweet Lite Crude!
Uhhh, no.
I remember when the hostages were taken in 79. I did not for an instant imagine that Jimmy Carter was on the verge of taking us to war. Nor were we close to war with Iran when Reagan was elected. ( Although maybe, if they hadn't given the hostages back...)
What part of the current situation strikes you as being the same as it ever was? The Iranian demand that the carriers not return to the straits? The Israeli insistence that Iran is about to test a nuke?
It's pretty easy to talk bullshit, shill.
First of all the CIA staged a military coup in Iran in 1959 and we installed the Sha which led to a violent uprising and the Ayatollah Khomeini overthrew the Sha. That's one of the reasons they hate us. We have been saber rattling ever since.
Second, do you think Irans nuclear labs were blowing up due to falty electical engineering?
Third of all, everytime Hamas (Iranian puppet group) and Israel start shooting missles at eachother we are close to war.
Fourth of all, we have been in-and-out of sanctioning/embargoing them for decades (which is a preclude to war)
Fifth of all Jimmy Carter was a shit head and one of the worst Presidents of the last 80 years.
Bitch
Don't forget these chaps
http://lib.store.yahoo.net/lib/realityzone/UFNtargetsymbol.jpg
Here's a nice long Wikipedia article on Iranian - US relations.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran%E2%80%93United_States_relations
Don't forget the proxy war we fought in the 80's using Iraq.
The Iranian Hamas, or the Israeli Hamas?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123275572295011847.html
Beruit 1983
United States Marine Corps.
That makes it personal.
the whole "kill two birds with one stone" went right out the window
now its
"kil three carriers with on nuke" wow what times we live in
For those astute market watchers the dow just went from up 33 to up 26. That is a 7 point drop in about 5 minutes. So for those who ask a month from now when a greece disorderly default got priced in. There it was.
Is that your definition of volatility...?
Watch out for those new Dong-Feng carrier carrier killing missiles the Chinese want the Iranians to test out.
Whoopee.
Don't kid yourself, the US developed its own ship-killing long range ballistic missile tech over 50 years ago.
If you think the USN has no effective defence against high aspect ballistic missiles, you are wrong.
The first missile might miss ... it could but the other three that also were flown out right behind the first missile certainly will not miss it.
It's a numbers game. The more ships available, the more likely 100% successful intercept will occur, all the time.
The Iranians also have their own anti-ship ballistic missile and it works (they do NOT need any Chinese missiles).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=lvwZB1DtaJg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=miU7_c5bQlY
Long brent, short sanity. Oh, and: BiTCHeZ!
If they put 3 AC within range of Irans antiship missles and they get sunk, it won't be an oversight it'd have to be deliberate.
The worst thing Iran could do would be to sink an aircraft carrier with one of its missiles. Especially if Iran initiated the combat. That event would give the U.S. all the cover it needed to do whatever it wanted with Iran. Then it really would be "Game On". Despite all the crapola about Sunburn missiles, the U.S. could pound Iran into dust if it wanted to do so.
It's not in Iran's interests to sink an aircraft carrier, the Iranians are generally smart people and must know this, so therefore it won't happen.
No matter what negativity happens in the region, we WILL be told Iran initiated it.
But Israel might.
Well, the American Preisdent has been talking a lot about downsizing the military...
If you look at the 7th Fleet AOR it stretches all the way from the mid Pacific to the mid Indian Ocean so the Stennes could really be in the 7th Fleet AOR and only be a few days sailing from the Straits of Oman.
The boatswain's mates need to get out there and take care of that running rust. Hard to look tough when the paint job is so sloppy.
http://strikelawyer.wordpress.com
Does anyone know why two carriers would ever be that close to each other? Is this normal? If I were the boss, you would never see two such ships less than five miles apart.
Shuttling VIP's and other personnel, photo op's, comfab's in blue country...no big deal.
Two ships close together look like one ship on radar.
The relative sizes of the two ships and their aircraft are proportional to their separation from each other and with no telephoto, to the distance from the observer (however, another photo has been substituted for the original, so this is not so much true anymore). Time to dig out a copy of Jane's and see if they have dimensions for these two ships - 72 and 74.
Look at the ships wakes. The closer one is hammering it, while the further one appears to be putting. They were probably not that close for very long. A momentary photo opportunity.
All the info was disseminated by the DoD to create their desired impression.
Photo opp is the only reason I can think of. When I was on-board the USS Midway the only ships that got that close to us were the resupply ships.
It's a cozy pic, no flight op's everything tied down, only a helo puttering about...and the flat angle of the photo gives the appearance of the far ship being closer than it is, same effect as looking at anything (the moon) on the low horizon. Optical trick. I was on Coral Sea and had the America on one side and the Midway on the other, hung out several days launching & recovering and doing what we normally do.
Funny watching the armchair panic attack types here wet themselves though, wish more stories like this would hit ZH!
Interesting, ZH updated the pic, not so terribly close together after all! :)
And the lack of little colored dots all over the flight decks (people) indicates the aircraft on the cats are on alert posture only.
But hey, don't let me stop people from having kittens! :)
no typhoon struggle? boo.
Heh, yeah, boo!
RobD is correct.
To make them look like tempting bait.
"You sank my battleship" the game, Battleship, taught a whole generation never to cluster your assets or never asset your clusters.
Show of force.
The President's netsec advisors didn't think it was a good idea but the Saudi King insisted. And since the King's cock is shoved so far down his throat he can't cough, he gave the order.
We had 4 in Desert Storm running together. Even a Battleship.
The Battleship did come under direct attack by missile, a British warship's Sea dart killed the vampire threat.
SOPA will take care of this facebk secprob.
Making it easier for Russian/Chinese subs.
it's the shootin' gallery of Hormuz, Rus/Chin subs must be crusing just out of the way smilin' not realizing that they are also being followed and when they light up they will be lit up.
Sucker punched, the mark looks drunk and unable to defend himself.......
Remember the Chinese PLA said they would protect Iran. The Chinese have been carefully learning the weaknesses of the US armed forces and wiill use it to their advantage.
The US has been giving away military secrets and technology to the Chinese for years.
This is what gets me...military strategy is basically useless when you can sink a country in 1 day by simply dumping $500 billion UST's on the open market one night.
Game over.
US financial hegemony is backed by US military power. If the battle groups are exposed as being anachronistic, the financial hegemony will die. If they aren't -- I'm not sure.
Not at all, if they dump the treasuries the dollar is sunk. How many will fight because it's their patriotic duty? How do planes and bombs get paid for?
Problem is they will sink themselves too. It's like M.A.D with money.
You win the prize, SheepDog-One. The U.S. is currently fighting Iran using non-military means - by causing rampant inflation in Iran and murdering nuclear scientists. As long as those efforts are going on and showing results, there (in my opinion) will be no military action.
"The US has been giving away military secrets and technology to the Chinese for years."
....with a little help from Israel.
Protect Iran? How? With what? They don't have the means to withstand an engagement with the U.S Navy. Not in the Arabian Sea, not in the Straights of Humuz, and not even in the South China Sea!
Jeebus, relax people. It is not all that unusual for three carrier groups to spend a few days together before the one due to return to home port pulls out. Been there, done that! Stennis is homeward bound, so put the paper bag over your mouths and settle down.
If you were in the Admiralty ( no offense ) and were asked to prepare for imminent war, would you do it by steaming every operational battle group straight at them and have it show up on Stratfor's website (when it's working) or would you start hostilities when you had three battle groups in the area for "routine" reasons, and another one within a week's running time?
Two have been the norm for nearly 20 years. Incoming and outgoing battle groups are nothing new in the navy.
Yup.
This was public info, kinda shot your own foot there pal. And there is always another carrier or two within a week of the area...Wash is forward deployed in Yokasuka and spends a lot of time at sea (we used to call them USS Neverdock in my day, suppose they still do) and if something is in the Atlantic or Med it doesn't take too long to motor through The Ditch. If and when the Admirals receive orders to do something, you won't know it until it happens. There are so many assets in the region already carrier movements could merely be used for broader containment and support. But keeping the enemy guessing is always a good idea, as we are demonstrating here.
Not long, theyll be starting WW3 any day now.
That started long ago... in the 70's. It's just been quiet....for a little bit. Now they are accelerating it.