USS Stennis Supposedly Leaves Straits Of Hormuz, Replaced By USS Lincoln With USS Vinson Staying Put, But Not Just Yet

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For those following the latest naval developments in the general Arabian Sea area and the Straits of Hormuz in particular, the latest news is that the duo of Aircraft carriers on location, as was reported last week, the USS Stennis and USS Vinson, has became a trio, with the arrival of the USS Lincoln, however, if only briefly. According to the US Navy's website, CVN 74 Stennis has left the 5th Fleet, and is now back in the 7th fleet, on its way home. Yet this is somewhat contradictory with the following picture posted on the facebook profile of one CVN 72 Abraham Lincoln (yes, faceook), which quite vividly shows CVN 74 - the same Stennis - and CVN 72, Lincoln, side by side, at least as of this morning. As such, absent further photographic evidence to the contrary, it may be the case that while the Stennis is planned to be on its way back, but in reality is still in the vicinity. Which begs the question: why three aircraft carriers in the Arabian Sea, and for how long?

From Lincoln's facebook profile: two aircraft carriers... caringly side by side.

And positioning updates from the Navy, first on the Stennis:

Stennis Strike Group Enters 7th Fleet Area of Operations

USS JOHN C. STENNIS, At Sea (NNS) -- John C. Stennis Strike Group (JCSSG) entered the U.S. 7th Fleet area of operations(AOO) Jan. 19 after nearly three months supporting Operations Enduring Freedom (OEF) and New Dawn (OND), as well as maritime security operations and anti-piracy efforts in the U.S. 5th Fleet AOO.

While operating in the seas surrounding the Arabian Peninsula, JCSSG played a pivotal role in the drawdown of U.S. forces in Iraq and provided aviation support to coalition ground troops in Afghanistan.

After conducting weeks of command and control support operations to coalition forces in OND, an E-2C Hawkeye from the "Golden Hawks" of Carrier Airborne Early Warning Squadron (VAW) 112 embarked aboard Nimitz-class aircraft carrier USS John C. Stennis (CVN 74) flew the last Navy aviation mission over Iraq Dec. 18.

"Flying the last Navy air mission in Iraq was a historic achievement for all of us," said Capt. Dale Horan, commander of Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 9 embarked aboard Stennis, the flag ship of the strike group.

"Everyone in this strike group played a part in making that happen and it's a part of history we will always share," Horan said.

In January, after transitioning from OND to supporting operations in Afghanistan, JCSSG forces thwarted an attempted pirate attack on a Bahamian-flagged cargo vessel, then freed a group of Iranian mariners held captive by the same crew of suspected pirates.

"This was a well-executed display of the mutli-mission capability of the carrier strike group and a testament to the professionalism of our Sailors," said Stennis' Command Master Chief Stanley Jewett.

In the 7th Fleet AOO, the strike group plans to conduct several readiness exercises with partner countries in the region as well as visits to Singapore and the Philippines before preparing to head back to the United States.

"The manner in which we've conducted ourselves and executed our mission is indicative of the character of our Sailors and the spirit of our country," said JCSSG commander, Rear Adm. Craig Faller. "While we have much to accomplish before returning home, and I'm confident that we will finish our deployment with the same level of professionalism and personal conduct we've displayed throughout."

The JCSSG consists of Stennis, the guided-missile cruiser USS Mobile Bay (CG 53), aircraft from CVW 9, and guided missile destroyers USS Pinckney (DDG 91), USS Kidd (DDG 100), USS Dewey (DDG 105), and USS Wayne E. Meyer (DDG 108) from Destroyer Squadron 21.

 

And next, the Lincoln:

Abraham Lincoln Arrives in U.S. 5th Fleet

By Mass Communication Specialist Seaman Zachary Welch, Carrier Strike Group 9 Public Affairs

USS ABRAHAM LINCOLN, At Sea (NNS) -- The Abraham Lincoln Carrier Strike Group (CSG) arrived for a routine deployment in the U.S. 5th Fleet area of operations (AOO), Jan. 19.

Abraham Lincoln conducted work-ups for months to train, man and equip the CSG prior to it deploying to the U.S. 5th Fleet AOO, to support maritime security operations, counter-piracy operations, theater security cooperation efforts, and conduct air missions over Afghanistan for Operation Enduring Freedom.

"Our strike group has trained countless hours to ensure our Sailors are ready to conduct vital operations," said Rear Adm. Mike Shoemaker, commander, CSG 9. "We're looking forward to working closely with our coalition and regional partners to keep the sea lanes safe and secure for the free flow of maritime commerce that is so important for the continued prosperity of nations in this region and around the world."

Abraham Lincoln CSG is comprised of Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 2, guided-missile cruiser USS Cape St. George (CG 71) and embarked Destroyer Squadron (DESRON) 9, which includes the guided-missile destroyers USS Momsen (DDG 92) and USS Sterett (DDG 104).

"From our air wing to the destroyer squadron and other surface combatant ships, we have a fantastic team," said Capt. John D. Alexander, Lincoln's commanding officer. "We provide a flexible, adaptable and persistent force that will support the regional commander by providing the greatest assets the Navy has to offer."

The arrival of Lincoln brings the number of aircraft carriers to two within the U.S. 5th Fleet AOO. Carl Vinson arrived in theater, Jan. 9. A second aircraft carrier in the U.S. Central Command area of responsibility (AOR) ensures the U.S. military has the naval and air capabilities to support operational requirements while adequately meeting other security commitments in the region. The aircraft carriers will simultaneously conduct operations in different areas of the AOR, to adequately provide support operations requirements and other security commitments in the region.

Abraham Lincoln departed its homeport of Everett, Wash., Dec. 7, for a deployment to the U.S. 5th and 7th Fleet AOOs. The ship departed Laem Chabang, Thailand, Jan. 10, following a four-day port visit prior to transiting to U.S. 5th Fleet. Following deployment, Lincoln will change homeports from Everett, Wash., to Norfolk, Va., for a periodic refueling complex overhaul.

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Thu, 01/19/2012 - 13:57 | 2078693 GOSPLAN HERO
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Hey ... psst ... there are WMD in Canada too.

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 14:01 | 2078741 Stuppy
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Easiest thing to do BLAME CANADA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SDrqa-eTXU

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 14:18 | 2078819 Oh regional Indian
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Just wanted to provide an interestign counter point via Veteran's Affairs Magazine.

The USS Carl Vincent, which shot down the Iran Air jet back when, supposedly de-commisioned in November last year, is lurking in full war-paint at a pliant arab nations port, waiting to be false flagged in "revenge" by iran.

in this mad world, I would not be one bit surprised.

ori

shattering-midass-curse-gold-de-spell-ed/

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 15:27 | 2079087 blueRidgeBoy
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I don't want to rain on anyone's conspiracy theory parade, but it was USS Vincennes that shot down the Iranian airliner. Carl Vinson is not only a different ship, it's an entirely different kind of ship - an aircraft carrier. Vincennes was a cruiser. Now back to our regularly scheduled tin foil hats...

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 22:51 | 2080262 Oh regional Indian
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Right, I meant Vincennes.

Thanks.

ori

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 15:38 | 2079148 Benjamin Glutton
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The USS Carl Vinson (CVN-70) is an Aircraft Carrier and pictured above...The USS Vincennes (CG-49) was a Heavy Cruiser and was responsible for shooting down the Iranian airliner in 1988.

 

3 carriers associated escorts subs and such 100 Billion plus?

 

 

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 21:04 | 2080079 Harlequin001
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Cheap! That's less than a bank bailout...

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 18:44 | 2079709 Jefferson
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I wouldn't be surprised to wake up one morning and hear on the news how an Iranian fishing boat that was being rescued also just happened to be loaded with TNT.

 

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 22:19 | 2080207 Randall Cabot
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I was thinking they were spy boats.

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 14:18 | 2078822 camaro68ss
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Another Kinetic war?

Let the bombs of peace drop on thee

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 18:19 | 2079655 Spirit Of Truth
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Maybe the plan is to send an aircraft carrier into the Persian Gulf and test Iran's apparent threat to disallow entry.  Having three aircraft carriers on hand might be prudent.  Of course, a sunburn missile or three might make that two aircraft carriers.

http://thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com/2011/02/why-do-you-fail-to-heed-me....

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 21:01 | 2080072 HungrySeagull
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I don't know really. Combining the Surface ships into a Task Battle Force instead of a stripped down CVBG will assist in networking versus such a dangerous missile.

 

I would like to think our Navy will deal with the Sunburn. But if they do get through and sink a carrier, this Nation will unite within hours and cry for blood.

 

That will be a day to remember.

In world war two we lost dozens of carriers in battle and patched them up, hosed off the gore and went back into battle.

 

As a side note the USS Ronald Regean has gone into dry dock for extensive repairs. That was the ship near Japan using it's nuclear water wash down system when Fukushima was going on not far away.

 

I have a feeling the Regean will benefit from decontamination and replacement of material hit by radiation.

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 21:48 | 2080162 gravedestruction
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Spirit Of Truth

Of what spirit are you?

You are either of one or the other.

All of us are from the dust of the earth.

If more than a man from the dust of the earth?

Bearings must be off by more than a few degrees then...


Thu, 01/19/2012 - 21:59 | 2080179 gravedestruction
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Don't get me wrong. You have a pretty extensive blog with a lot of info that is obviously the fruit of your labor.

But some things I am reading that you claim just don't sit well with my being.

Perhaps my perceptions are a bit off as I know than I am infinitely fallible just as any other man (species).

If I am reading what you imply on that link incorrectly then enlighten me...

Fri, 01/20/2012 - 08:11 | 2080680 Spirit Of Truth
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http://edition.cnn.com/2012/01/19/world/meast/arabian-sea-us-carrier/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

Elliott Wave wave-3 of wave-3 of wave-C of Supercycle degree+ may be imminent, i.e., the "Prechter Point" of the Apocalypse Wave.

http://thespiritoftruth.blogspot.com/2011/05/edge-of-cliff.html

http://www.spiritoftruth.org/Thesis/Intro

Not in this world to win fans....just tell the truth.

-J

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 15:51 | 2079183 living on the edge
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Next thing you know TPTB will conjure up some BS reason to grab gold from Canada. Oil too!

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 16:46 | 2079372 Transformer
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Canada ain't got no gold.  The queen took it.

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 21:04 | 2080077 Cpl Hicks
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Correct.

All Canada's got is frostbacks, cheeseheads and hosers, and they are pretty thin on the ground at that. eh?

Fri, 01/20/2012 - 08:11 | 2080682 Amish Rake Fighter
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don't forget $15 trillion worth of oil

Fri, 01/20/2012 - 10:12 | 2080983 Cpl Hicks
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Oh, yeah- there's that too.

51st state, anyone?

Sat, 01/21/2012 - 15:58 | 2084892 Amish Rake Fighter
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over my dead body

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 21:08 | 2080091 Harlequin001
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a very powerful little lady, the Queen. Just ask Obama...

He won't go anywhere or do anything without her...

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 14:03 | 2078760 LawsofPhysics
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Hey... pssst... manipulate the price of oil below $100 per barrel and the capital costs and energy required will make tars sands not profitable.  No need for military action when you have a crack group of financial terrorists working for you.

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 14:12 | 2078796 aVian
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72 = 7+2 = 9

74 = 7+4 = 11

Bitchez

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 15:18 | 2079050 sullymandias
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"You better wake up and smell a real flavor / cause 911 is a fake life saver"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ-ldcnhsLY

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 21:02 | 2080076 Moneyshot20
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Flava Flav!

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 16:18 | 2079276 walcott
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side by side like twin towers in the water.

This is way to creepy and totally in your face.

Its like up yours what are you going to do about it?

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 21:02 | 2080075 HungrySeagull
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9 and 11 are pretty powerful masonic numbers are they not?

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 21:10 | 2080098 Harlequin001
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and they're both on either side of 10!

fuck.

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 22:03 | 2080185 gravedestruction
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The tenth plague upon Egypt - angel of death - QUACK!

Fri, 01/20/2012 - 06:45 | 2080570 Element
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Yeah dats like ... dats just ... well, dat freaks me out man! ... I want mother ... mommy! ... deeze numberz prolly call da devil and baddy all-sortz to make scarey faces from da closet of doom ... oh look ... i whet myself ... AGAIN! ... Bwwahahaha!

aVian- I don't give a toss if some dumbshit like Ronald McRaygun goes to an astrologer, or if a bunch of cross-dressing masons have an obsession with number coincidence, or if numerology is an occult practice.  

It sucks arse.

Isn't what we know to be verifiable, and actual, and tangible--sufficient?  

Do you really expect to get through life buying-in to that sort of krud?

Did you consider the purveyors put 'mysterious' occultist shit about so naive people will make something of it and get sucked in, and thus always come off sounding completely dippy?

Put baseless shit in your head ... and you will think nothing but baseless shit.

Sorry, that's just how a brain operates.

The ancients knew that. That's why they taught others to read from the best books and to listen to the best teachers and to seek real knowledge, and true wisdom.

It's your brain, clean it up.  

No one else is going to do it for you.

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 18:44 | 2079710 Alfred
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ELF

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 21:24 | 2080121 Randall Cabot
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Here is a really good one. I thought this might be something military or HAARP, here are some possibilities below:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtLNmdZTf_g&feature=player_embedded

"I looked and I listened, and all I can surmise is, Someone or Something is activating the resonant electromagnetic-acoustic cavity of the Earth, much like a semi-filled wine-glass when you dip your finger in the water or wine and run it smoothly around the lip of the glass.

As you know, given ionisation, you can make a flame become a loudspeaker, a nice one with low system hysteresis.

Well, looking at the varying weather conditions in these videos, from stratified overcast to rain to early-morning frost or pre-dawn dew-deposition, etc, i.e., conditions in which local differentiation in state-change is occurring, one can imagine layers upon layers of varying electrical conduction or varying capacitance adjacent one another, making them more susceptible to modulation at their interfaces by what might be basically either :

a) naturally-occurring or artificially-enhanced electrical-potential differences between ground and upper atmosphere ;

b) harmonic electromagnetic density fluctuations by artificially-induced regular resonant waves of different frequencies causing a transient "beat" and perhaps put out by HAARP or something similar ;

c) Solar Winds, perhaps enhanced in strength either by our Earth's current alleged passing though denser parts of the Galactic Ecliptic and/or by more-than-average energetic processes in the Sun, either independently cyclical as pertains to the body itself, or else, in terms of the Electric Universe, very much enhanced by proximity to denser energy/matter nearer the Galactic Ecliptic ?

I am neither a musician nor a radio engineer, but I am sure a competent one, measuring the beat frequencies, might find the relative resonant harmonic value of them to determine their relationship to the natural electromagnetic resonant cavity of the earth (around 8 cps ("Hz"), 186'282 miles per second, divided by earth circumference 25'000 miles = around 7.5 cps).

So I suspect it may be either :

1. Solar Winds stroking our magnetosphere like a wineglass, or else

2. Someone with nasty human intent is doing something cunning to our Earth's resonances to fulfill their own -- perhaps designer-earthquake ? -- agenda ... ?

Back in the mid-1980s or so, I used to pick up the Russian "Woodpecker" on my all-band SW radio, and it sounded exactly like a woodpecker, too ! According to Col Bearden, they were doing some scalar-wave interferometry, causing hard beats that gave the 'Russian Woodpecker' its name.

These new ones sound like lower-frequency, greater-volume, slower buildup to something far more comprehensive and most likely extremely catastrophic event when it reaches the level where it crosses some material-limits threshold and finally cuts loose." 

http://rense.com/general95/opinonst.html   

 

Fri, 01/20/2012 - 06:52 | 2080575 Element
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ELF? ... come on! ... that guy just needs to get his arse on the can, and let 'er rip ... ASAP

BTW, ELF is sub-audible and non-directional, humans don't hear it.

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 21:11 | 2080101 Harlequin001
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Usually a precursor to a bowel movement...

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 14:42 | 2078925 Randall Cabot
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If I was Iran I would launch a submarine sneak attack and send all three carriers to the bottom. What would the US do then? If it starts WWIII then the dude comes out of the well.

 

Iranian Submarines' Ambush for US Aircraft Carriers in Persian Gulf

TEHRAN (FNA)- A senior Iranian military commander underlined that the Iranian Navy's subsurface vessels enjoy a high capability to confront enemies' threats, and stated that Iran's submarines are able to ambush and hit enemy vessels specially US Aircraft carriers from the seabed throughout the Persian Gulf.

 

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=9010171671     

 

 

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 14:51 | 2078954 GeneMarchbanks
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As interesting as that was, let it serve only in hypothetical-ville and not in the real world. There would be no excuse for a 'sneak attack' by either side.

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 15:19 | 2079055 Stochdoc
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Yeah, right.  I bet OUR subs know exactly where their subs are located.

Fri, 01/20/2012 - 00:05 | 2080370 Alpacanio
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Just like we seen that Chinese sub surface next to a US carrier not long ago...

 

Hello!

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 15:37 | 2079139 trav7777
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only until the war starts...then wartime ASW kicks in and subs run like hell and hide.

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 15:54 | 2079195 Dick Gazinia
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They have an extensive network of undersea microphones all over that area (and the world).  If a fish farts off the iranian coast, we know it.

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 17:13 | 2079444 JW n FL
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here watch the Video that caters to India.. one of Iran's largest oil / petrol partners from yesterday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZl33MKWGhc

if you can enjoy the spin of Iran.. it makes the spin used at home so much easier to enjoy, based on the quality.

Fri, 01/20/2012 - 00:23 | 2080393 BigInJapan
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Expensive glass floor they'd be buying.

Moron.

 

Why oh why did we ever get rid of the Math cpatcha???

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 17:36 | 2079525 Defiant1968
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I don't know why we would want to go the war with Iran - I love Persian Food - Now Canada - Have you ever been to a Canadian restaurant or has anyone said let's go eaten Canadian tonite -

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 19:32 | 2079839 UP Forester
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That Canadian Bacon is pretty good on a pizza....

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 21:13 | 2080107 Harlequin001
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'I don't know why we would want to go the war with Iran' -

because in any fiat system the government has to fall out with everyone including its citizens if it is to force them to accept its currency...

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 13:55 | 2078695 redpill
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Overkill, bitchez

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 14:00 | 2078735 john39
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Not if you intend to provoke WWIII.

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 14:02 | 2078743 macholatte
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just a quick side bar ..........

 

 

Fifa General Secretary Jerome Valcke said the right to sell beer must be enshrined in a World Cup law the Brazilian Congress is considering.

Beer 'must be sold' at Brazil World Cup, says Fifa

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-16624823

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 14:03 | 2078751 redpill
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Now you're making me thirsty.  During happy hour please have 1 beer per US warship in the Arabian Sea!

 

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 14:03 | 2078757 The Swedish Chef
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It´s such a friggin pseudo-debate. OF COURSE YOU NEED TO SERVE BEER AT FOTB...OOOOPPS! I mean soccer games.

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 13:55 | 2078700 sabra1
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why didn't they choose the color yellow as a topcoat? easier to like, see!

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 19:33 | 2079848 UP Forester
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How about a big red meatball right over the ammo bunkers, as well?

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 13:56 | 2078701 5880
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Bluff has been called

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 13:57 | 2078705 Falcon15
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Three carrier groups in the area, Iranian threat to torpedo any US warship entering the Strait. It's on.

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 14:11 | 2078792 ElvisDog
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You know, I think you're right. I mean, I've heard about 500 times how war in the Middle East was imminent for one reason or the other, it didn't happen, but this time, by golly, I think you're right.

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 14:19 | 2078828 Falcon15
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Guess we never went to war with Iraq? Or was that Afghanistan? Oh, maybe you mean Lybia? No, wait Egypt...yeah. Not much of the real estate in the Middle East has not had US boots on the ground in the last 10 years. As each regime has fallen, what has that net gained the US? Safety from Terrorists? WMD's found and destroyed? Go back to your mom's basement and play Xbox. Let the adults talk now.

Ladies and Gentlemen, Elvis has left the building.

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 14:30 | 2078879 Bay of Pigs
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Maybe Las Vegas Dave can fill us in with some details after watching Hannity today?

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 14:57 | 2078977 ElvisDog
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Go back to your mom's basement and play Xbox. Let the adults talk now.

That's both unfunny and unoriginal, dickwad. Next I expect you will write a breathless missive on the Sunburn missile capabilities or nuclear torpedoes, or whatever. I wish there was a futures market on this much-discussed Iran-US or Iran-Israel war, because I would be a rich man betting against it. You should get out of your basement, stop reading Tom Clancy novels, and stop playing Call of Duty. Unfortunately, retards like you never learn. The next time you read about an aircraft carrier rotation, you'll be back with your tiresome "It's On" posts.

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 15:24 | 2079075 john39
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In pre-WWII Europe, the period before the shooting started was referred to as the "sitzkreig"...    funny, until the shooting started.

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 15:44 | 2079162 ElvisDog
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Okay, think about it from the point of view of the Iranian leaders. Their economy is struggling. Their people are getting restless. What to do? The tried-and-true response is to find an external threat. The U.S. fits that perfectly. But the Iranian leaders don't want a shooting war, because recent history in Iraq and Libya tells you that getting into a shooting war with the U.S. results in regime change. So, the Iranian leaders are exactly where they want to be. They can talk tough and inspire the people back home. It will work as long as they don't get into a shooting war with the U.S. So (in my opinion) they won't.

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 16:50 | 2079381 Bay of Pigs
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Struggling? Their currency is being attacked via US led oil sanctions. What if they cannot sell their oil? (60% of GDP).

They are being backed into the corner, and they might not have a way out. So, faced with that scenario, do they just lay down or do they fight?

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 17:06 | 2079427 Tijuana Donkey Show
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You mean if they don't sell their oil in dollars?

Fri, 01/20/2012 - 00:25 | 2080395 BigInJapan
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They lay down.

Iran doesn't have the necessary credit to fight a real war.

Fri, 01/20/2012 - 07:06 | 2080590 Element
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Big assumption.

If Germany can prop up PIIGS for a couple of years, what makes you think Russia and China won't prop such a valuable proxy as Iran?

Think about it, they'd be crazy not to.

And they did it in Vietnam ... did they not? ... and Lockheed Martin and the rest got fabulously uber-richerer.

That isn't that the game being played out here?

Why would the bankers give a damn if the US gets creamed?

It simply means they will buy a shitload of new kit.

Paul Krugman wins another Scandinavian econ-prize ... for being such an indispensible economic visionary.

Fri, 01/20/2012 - 07:22 | 2080598 Element
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Exactly.  On the one hand we have the US navy saying the US needs to quell the tensions ASAP ... so calls off biggest eveh exercise with zion-bros  ... and simultaneously directly and very dramatically raises the threat level for Iran's military (can you imagine their readiness alert level right now? ... an what they are planning to do?) and thus teeters the whole situation even more toward a sudden outbreak of hostilities, that forces Iran to almost immediately sew 900 advanced camouflaged sea mines into the Strait within the next 2 hours or so.

Oh yeah ... you can tell ... Washington is so de-escalating this situation ... NOT

As for the exercise being suddenly axed for budget reasons, the Russians probably warned the US that they would treat as hostile any military aircraft it observed behaving suspiciously, so the pentagon decided it was not going to risk a real battle developing and pulled the plug.

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 17:05 | 2079425 Tijuana Donkey Show
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You can play the futures market on this, bet right over here on Intrade.

 http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/contract/?contractId=750353

 

If you really think Ron Paul is going to make it, you can make the trade of the century, it's only a 2.6% chance right now. 

http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/contract/?contractId=743483

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 13:56 | 2078712 GeneMarchbanks
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Yikes.

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 13:59 | 2078726 slaughterer
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One warship -- ignore, symbolic posturing

Two warships -- heated telephone calls, and propagandistic media spin

Three warships -- pressure on, irrational reaction forthcoming. 

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 14:01 | 2078734 GeneMarchbanks
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'Which begs the question: why three aircraft carriers in the Arabian Sea, and for how long?'

Obviously you haven't heard about the Somali pirate problem(s).

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 14:05 | 2078766 SDRII
Thu, 01/19/2012 - 14:26 | 2078855 Oh regional Indian
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Somewhere in there is the truth of the Somali pirates, and it's all about nuclear waste.

/nuclear-revelation-a-bomb-indeed/

ori

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 16:24 | 2079303 toxic8
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VICE guide tracks down Bulgarian dirty bomb salesman...

 

http://www.vice.com/the-vice-guide-to-travel/bulgarian-dirty-bombs

 

food for thought

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 14:38 | 2078902 Cast Iron Skillet
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Pirates! Pastafarians! .... hope they don't hijack the Stennis ... probly have to pay a shitload to get that thing back ...

Fri, 01/20/2012 - 21:53 | 2083248 Lower Class Elite
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+1 for the FSM reference.  May His Noodly Appendage stroke  you into eternal worshipful ecstasy.

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 14:01 | 2078737 Falcon15
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Exactly what I am saying. It is not if, it is when and who.

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 14:23 | 2078844 Hansel
Thu, 01/19/2012 - 14:37 | 2078897 kralizec
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In the region...    Duh!

Oh so not ominous!

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 15:53 | 2079196 ali-ali-al-qomfri
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let's see the last time we had 3 huge (or more) massive weapon systems sitting or docked (or sitting ducked) was what, December 7th........

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 13:57 | 2078713 spartan117
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To provide more easy targets? 

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 13:58 | 2078719 Mercury
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How many "friends" does CVN 72 have?

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 14:12 | 2078789 Mercury
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Believe it or not, lo-tech Warren Buffet has had a similar message on deck for years:

Dear Shareholder,  Yesterday I died...

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 22:54 | 2080266 MrSteve
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Beaucoup friends, called a carrier battle group. Perhaps 35 ships in all: tenders, destroyers, minesweepers, cruisers; light and heavy, submarines; attack and antisubmarine. Oh, don't forget all the land-based fighter-bomber planes in Saudi Arabia and Israel. They'd be friendly refueling bases for the midair refueling tankers so the carrier fighters can stay airborne longer.

Three carrier battle groups is an awesome collection of military force and a considerable deterrent to Iranian shenannigans. It is never too late to pray for peace!

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 14:00 | 2078731 Randall Cabot
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Somebody's getting their straits and gulfs mixed up.

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 14:09 | 2078775 Falcon15
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Really think being in the Arabian sea will stop missiles or fighter/bombers from making sortee runs? An F-22 Raptor has an effective range of 410 nautical miles. A tomohawk missile has a range of 900 nautical miles. You have to think in terms of tactical positioning. The Iranians have implicitly stated if a warship enters the Strait, they will torp it. American assets do not even need to be in the Strait to be brought to bear against Iran. This positioning is enough to make ANY nation in a squeeze, like Iran, nervous as a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs.

Thu, 01/19/2012 - 19:40 | 2079866 UP Forester
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A Tomahawk missile with mid-air refuelling can go forever, if you have enough KQ-170 mid-air refuelling drones.

And the F-22 is awesome if you bring your own scuba-tanks with you.

Fri, 01/20/2012 - 22:06 | 2083260 Lower Class Elite
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Umm, when did Tomahawks get air-air refueling capable?  I wouldn't want to be that tanker pilot...

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