Visualizing Where The Pain Is: Summary Of Biggest Exposures To Italy

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Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:29 | 1860331 GeneMarchbanks
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Hence your previous article: CONTAGION

I think most of us get it, may I ask who is most exposed to Frenchy? Never mind, I see now...

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:47 | 1860435 philosoraptor
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Who is most exposed to Italian debt? The French.

Who is most exposed to French debt? The UK.

Who is most exposed to UK debt? The US.

Plus, the Germans take podium positions on all the above.

Roll up, roll up, place your bets on the sequence of the domino reckoning...

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 10:09 | 1860530 FMR Bankster
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Yup, game over.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:32 | 1860342 HD
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How much time does the ECB realistically have to pull this off? Days? Weeks? Or is this a 2012 event?  How long before markets realize the math is impossible.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:36 | 1860377 HelluvaEngineer
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It appears to be happening right now.  I mean, we've known this stuff for weeks, but "duh market" seems to be coming to terms with it today.  Funny how we just randomly gap down after days of ignoring the problem.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:47 | 1860426 HD
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I would love that to be true. However, We've been here before too many times. Rumors, hopium and intervention always seem to pull it back from the brink. I have no reason to believe it won't happen again today. I just wonder how much longer they can keep it up.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:53 | 1860462 Snidley Whipsnae
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Dow futures off 244 ... and thats an improvement from earlier.

Gold making another run at $1,800 but is buried in paper... as usual.

interesting times

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:58 | 1860485 HD
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"interesting times"

  That, my friend, is an understatement.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 10:44 | 1860669 BanksterSlayer
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It was also a Chinese Curse rather than a Chinese Proverb. Those Chinese are awfully smart. Also the #3 shareholder of the IMF, according to Christine Lagarde's speech yesterday.


Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:38 | 1860394 CH1
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How long before markets realize the math is impossible.


They'll look away until they're living in filth, then blame someone (Jews being the perennial favorites), then beg for a strongman to steal it all back for them.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:45 | 1860424 ArkansasAngie
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Main Street USA doesn't really know this problem exists.

But Benny et al are aware.

This may well be his last opportunity to print before the pitchforks start showing up. 

I'm going to have to go look up write-in candidacies laws.  Seems like a nation wide write-in might be the best bet to beat whom ever the Republicans and Denocrats put forth.  Tyler ... you available? 

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 10:24 | 1860600 island
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Consider supporting Bill Still - writer of "The Money Masters" and "The Secret of Oz"

He is running for the Libertarian candidacy slot.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:58 | 1860486 SteveNYC
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We haven't seen Ben's bag o' tricks yet to put the US taxpayer/dollar on the hook for the whole caboose. Definitely 2012.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 12:45 | 1861202 RiverRoad
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Not if he loves his kneecaps.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:28 | 1860344 Irish66
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Goldman Sachs (GS) says net funded credit exposure to Italy is USD 700mln and gross funded credit exposure to Italy USD 2.32bln, exposure includes sovereign, financials and corps.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:38 | 1860389 rajeev
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I apreciate the insight in the report, which said Euro is making a dead cat bounce because of repartriation. I salute the analytical capacity. Great work!

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:38 | 1860390 rajeev
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I apreciate the insight in the report, which said Euro is making a dead cat bounce because of repartriation. I salute the analytical capacity. Great work!

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:39 | 1860396 Cdad
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Yes, yes...but when parsing any statement out of any US bank regarding exposure to European debt, you must use a multiple of at least 5.  Remember, this is the criminal syndicate, and they lie perpetually to buy time on their dumb ass moves.

You can bet big against them, as it is almost certain that ALL of them have been caught swinging for the fences on yield, shifting their positions to off balance sheet "tools".  Everything since 2008 remains the same because, of course, they were bailed out instead of taking the hit they deserved.

Confessions are already coming out of the European banks regarding hits taken on this bad debt.  The US will follow, and when they finally confess, that is when you take your short positions off.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:29 | 1860347 Bodhi
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We all have a little of our neighbor's feces in our own closet. 

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:41 | 1860410 CrimsonAvenger
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Remind me never to visit your neighborhood.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:30 | 1860351 ThisIsBob
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A great thing about globalization is that you can trade US leveraged index ETF's off Italian bonds.


Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:30 | 1860353 paulie
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"Now I have a machine gun, oh oh oh"

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:41 | 1860412 tarsubil
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I don't know how this relates but...

Yipee ki yay, MF global.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:30 | 1860354 qussl3
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Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:40 | 1860401 ATM
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Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:41 | 1860408 ATM
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Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:42 | 1860416 ATM
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Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:30 | 1860357 1835jackson
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Bond vigilantes: "SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!!!!!!"

ECB: “Patience… we need a crisis first…dumb asses” 

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:38 | 1860392 LawsofPhysics
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Yes, wait until it gets to the lebowski point - where's my money lebowski?

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:33 | 1860364 firstdivision
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Well, at least we don't have to worry about this contagion spreading to Iceland.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:34 | 1860370 AngryGerman
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that non-bank private is a lot! what is that?

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:36 | 1860379 LawsofPhysics
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Question; "that non-bank private is a lot! what is that?"

Answer; "Where money goes to die."    Essentially the gas chamber of fiat currency.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:47 | 1860434 firstdivision
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The Rothschild's family holdings.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 12:48 | 1861215 RiverRoad
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Oh, let's hope.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:35 | 1860373 LawsofPhysics
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This is what "winning" looks like with an eCONomy that relies on infinite growth with finite resources.

hedge accordingly.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:38 | 1860393 youngman
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Where is the CDS graph?  That is a few trillion more...or less....or if this is ruled a non like the ECB is buying...can they go to trillions?   The bankers want it...the Politicians want it...what is a treaty or two...

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:38 | 1860395 TooRichtoCare
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Warriors.....come out to plaaaaay

Warriors.....come out to plaaaaaaaaay

Warrriors.....come out to plaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay !!!

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:40 | 1860403 BurningFuld
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Would someone start bombing Iran already?

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:41 | 1860407 lizzy36
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What is the french word for "shart"?

LMAO that Blackrock said this morning: "Italian yields do not reflect country fundamentals".

Moral Hazard again as they were double fisting Italian bonds counting on a bailout. 

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:41 | 1860409 Fazzie
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Kudos to ZH for calling the EU collapse a long time ago and correctly calling all the intervening shuck and jive parlor tricks of the ECB and pals for what they were,ie, a desperate attempt of the unelected banksters of the world to keep the status quo fleecing of the middle class in full swing.

 A person watching CNBC all this time, by comparison would probably be of the mindset that "nobody, I mean nobody could have saw this coming".

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 10:14 | 1860556 FMR Bankster
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Just made the mistake of turning up the sound on CNBC. Cramer is absolutely freaking out. "SOMEBODY MUST STEP FORWARD RIGHT NOW TO STOP THIS." "SOMEBODY MUST BE CHURCHILL TODAY." "THEY MUST BUY BONDS AND DRIVE YIELDS LOWER." Funnier than hell.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 12:54 | 1861233 francis_the_won...
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I missed the Cramer freak-out.  Somebody PLEASE post a link to a replay of that.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:41 | 1860411 campag
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All this weakness in bonds is known news its too old to called old news. At some stage 3.00pm stocks will bounce like yesterday .Bears be warned!

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:45 | 1860423 Roy T
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CNBC just announced that Greece will appoint a new PM at 10 AM EST.

Rally time!

snark off

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:54 | 1860464 ThisIsBob
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Greece is over.

 Its now frogs-n-wops.


Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:41 | 1860413 Belarus
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The machines are going to be busy today. Expect the worst of the downturn to be over in futures. The machines don't wake up until the market's open and Europe closes. BTFD. 

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:42 | 1860414 radarsentinel
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France should get good money for their Treasuries today but then what will they have left?Oh, shit.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:45 | 1860425 mm17101978
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Non-private bank debt owed by Italy to France should include (I guess Reuters included this elephant in the room in its calculations) years of unapid electricity imported by Enel into Italy from France (at least since 2001, as far as I was told a while ago). Moreover, if I recall correctly, out of about 1920 billion Euros (Italy's public debt excluded the usual enormous unfunded liabilities) Italy owes to France (for one reason or another) about 511 billion Euros. Meanwhile here in Rome, banks keep robbing people and corporations more and more aggressively (even a 10-euro charge for a bounced cheque is a matter of survival for....not to name anyone in particular........Intesa Sanpaolo). Will this country make it to 1/1/2012 without defaulting? It's the only way to, perhaps, clean up this 150-year-old place that has steadily become Europe's biggest debt hole.

Wed, 11/09/2011 - 09:47 | 1860438 RobotTrader
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Looks like we are going to get confirmed breakouts in both TIP and TLT today.

Unfortunately, nobody on this board was prepared to participate in a generational bond bull market extending beyond 35 years.

Stocks will crater for a few days, but it will only be a matter of time before 50-year record low interest rates will entice speculators to belly back up to the casino table and start chasing stocks with a vengeance.

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