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Watch David Cameron Explain To UK Parliament Why He Broke Away From The Eurozone Group Of 27

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Last week's biggest political shock was David Cameron telling Europe to shove its authoritarian ambitions and breaking away from the Group of 27, in effect killing any chance of a favorable summit outcome. Watch him live now as he explains why he did what he did.

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Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:37 | 1970100 GeneMarchbanks
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Because HSBC told him to?

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:40 | 1970112 Momauguin Joe
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N.M. Rothschild of London told him to.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:44 | 1970132 AngryGerman
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no, timmmaaahhhhhh was hiding up his ass and telling him what to do

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:47 | 1970145 Harlequin001
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So you think it in the US's interest for the Euro to fail then?

You think US banks have a rats arse chance of survival if European banks go under? Please...

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:54 | 1970179 william shatner
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Off course it's in the interest for the US that the euro fails, it's the only competitor to the US dollar as the reserve currency. They don't care about the banks, it's all about keeping the dollar as the reserve currency.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:09 | 1970235 Ahmeexnal
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What is Nigel Farage saying about this?

David CommieRon is a disgrace.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:35 | 1970371 TheFourthStooge-ing
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What The City wants, The City gets.


Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:42 | 1970398 Deo vindice
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I would think that Nigel's increasing popularity in Britain has to play into this situation at least a bit.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:10 | 1970247 kridkrid
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Go ahead. It's got to be somewhere.


You're in. Order it to disarm the missiles.

No! No.

Five numbers. It's got half the code.


- Put X in the centre square.|- I know.

- Six up.|- There's no way you can win.

I know that. It doesn't. It hasn't learned.

- Is there any way to make it play itself?|- Yes. Number of players zero.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:16 | 1970281 distopiandreamboy
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It seems the only way to win is to not play the game. But in this world the game plays on.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:31 | 1970346 kridkrid
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Yeah... not a perfect analogy. The "can't win" part is right, but the ship sailed on not playing long ago.  Currency wars lead to trade wars lead to war wars.... and here we go...

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 15:05 | 1971070 stirners_ghost
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"Just imagine how much more could be printed into all that fresh demand", TheBernank thought to himself, his vagina fully engorged.


Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:59 | 1970192 fajensen
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The EUR would fail instantly if London was not around to enable off-the-books investments, unsupervised lending, infinite leverage and plain money-laundering! Keeping the UK out of any deal preserves the status quo in which trillions have alredy been wasted.

It is the desired outcome: The fascists can confiscate defraud and tax, then launder their money via London, while whining about the obstinacy of the British.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:04 | 1970219 Jay Gould Esq.
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Swing that purse, David !

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 13:03 | 1970505 eureka
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Fajensen - Your view is too simplistic. EU is not ruled by fascists. There are many opposing forces in EU, each fighting for its agenda. This is only to be expected. HOWEVER: There is one enemy of all nations and peoples - and that is the hyper rich who use banks for their war on all real assets, whether private or sovereign - and consequently hedgefunds and banks must be regulated, chopped up and exempt from any more bailouts whatsoever - i.e. all the things London doesn't want - but which a majority of forces in EU do want.

Cameron works for London and its crony capitalist cabal. If one is for crony capitalism one can agree with Cameron - otherwise not.

That - is the truth - if you can handle it..

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:46 | 1970141 GeneMarchbanks
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You must bomb your liver with a liter of absimf' if the word "REHYPOTHECATION" is uttered...

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:56 | 1970183 spanish inquisition
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If he agrees, then the unregulated London Financial District comes under EU control and needs to follow EU rules.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:00 | 1970198 GeneMarchbanks
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I'm aware of all this. The 'looting spree' in London this summer was a fine example of microcosm/macrocosm. Self similarity, if you will...

Loot on you thieving fuckshites! Loot on...

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 13:02 | 1970496 Ghordius
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today's best is Tyler's own provocative intro "telling Europe to shove its authoritarian ambitions"!!! LOL

ah, banking regulations are so fascist a priori

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 13:09 | 1970557 eureka
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Well, in this matter Tyler clearly does not see the full picture - if his simplistic sentiment against central controls were to be distributed evenly, he would have to equally "forcefully" advocate the immediate revocation of scores of US Federal Government controls over separate US states.

Let's hear it Tyler... - is that your position?

Or is it only the EU which is not allowed to have central powers?

I hardly think that is your porition, Tyler - is it now?

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 15:41 | 1971241 Cugel
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I'm pretty sure that would be Tyler's position. Have you missed all the Ron Paul love? The solution to too big to fail is failure, not more central planning.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 13:13 | 1970567 Ahmeexnal
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Why should people have to pay taxes to a German empire operating out of Brussels?

Oh, right, so the Germans can keep partying like it's 1936.

The much touted friday eurozone agreement is a farse.

The 27 fools who "agreed" will hit a concrete wall in their countries called CONSTITUTION.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:49 | 1970155 HedgeAccordingly
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S&P's nice and weak this morning... 

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:51 | 1970164 slaughterer
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It is not even 11:00am and I am already attempting to guess today's 3:00pm rumor.  

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:01 | 1970189 gojam
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Try, Where's Clegg !? UK Coalition gov about to fall. (it won't but just watch)

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:52 | 1970169 Azannoth
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I think we can agree that he did the right thing for all the wrongs reasons

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:54 | 1970181 slaughterer
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Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:56 | 1970184 whatsinaname
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'cos they would have to rein in their debt (NOT) !!

And QE3 launch would be delayed ?

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:45 | 1970359 Dr. No
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Its because the City of London Corporation told him so.  TCLC has given banks a soverign status which the EU would like to take away.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:37 | 1970101 theMAXILOPEZpsycho
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Hail Cameron the brave! Finally showing some of that Churchill style Bulldog spirit!

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:38 | 1970103 pufferfish
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His protectionism of the cabal isn't even vailed. 

Even Thatcher didn't pull right out.

Oh dear.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:43 | 1970127 agent default
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Yeah, because the rest of Europe is really giving the banksters hell.\sarc

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 13:18 | 1970592 eureka
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unfortunately not - mostly because of the French, who here are aligned with theUS Fed/US Empire print & montize "strategy" - whereas Merkel/Germany actually wanted even German banks to take haircuts.

Ironic, isn't it, that the by US so often ridicules French, are so in step with US bailout & pretend agenda?

Whereae the Germans, who's banks got solidly rigged by the GS Squid and US in general, is against bailouts, but bent to the French!

Nuances, Gentlemen. Nuances, which count. US loves Frenchie - today... for the moment...

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 14:25 | 1970920 agent default
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If they give the banks haircuts, then the banks will go to them and ask for a bailout, or something horrible will happen.  What will they do then, turn around and say, the horrible thing will happen to you, now fuck off and die, or just get the taxpayer to bail them out?  Take a guess.  The Germans are full of shit.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 14:53 | 1971013 Ahmeexnal
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Swinegela Merdekel is already salivating at the tought of panzerdivisions crossing into Switzerland and stealing all that gold beneath Zürichsee.  What she does not count on is Swiss superior military.

Always has been. German Landsknechts were a cheap ripoff imitating Swiss pikers.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 15:40 | 1971237 agent default
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The Swiss do not approve of invading Switzerland.  The place is rigged from top to bottom, every bridge, road, building everything in Switzerland is mined. 

BTW in Switzerland never, EVER even imply that the German speaking Swiss are Germans, or even close to the Germans.  Especially if he happens to be a German speaking Swiss.  Things can get violent.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:38 | 1970105 pragmatic hobo
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Would Cameron do what he did without prior approval of the US?

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:44 | 1970125 Harlequin001
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Since when did the Uk ever give a fuck about the US?

The US is busily looking after the UK's interests in Europe because it has been told to.

Who do you think runs American banks? America? Wake up...

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:39 | 1970111 the 300000000th...
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Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:40 | 1970113 IslandMan
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Why can't you 'Mercans get it right ?

It's the Eurozone of 17.  17 in, 10 not in.  There, it's not that difficult, is it ?

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 17:04 | 1971598 DosZap
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Well, when it's all said and done, there will be ONLY 10.

Then, grab your ankles and kiss your ass goodbye.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:40 | 1970114 transaccountin
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It's all about the printing press. England did not accept the treaty simply because its printing press would have been unplugged and its fiat creation handicapped.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:41 | 1970123 theMAXILOPEZpsycho
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I think you nailed it

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:45 | 1970135 AngryGerman
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precisely. uk banking sector would not survived it.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:48 | 1970153 Harlequin001
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Not a country on the planet would have...

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:50 | 1970160 theMAXILOPEZpsycho
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yeh, still even if he made the right decision for the wrong reasons, any no to the eurocrates is a good thing

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:44 | 1970133 LeBalance
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Peace in Our Time.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:07 | 1970230 DOT
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Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:38 | 1970384 GMadScientist
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Pieces in Our Time

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:45 | 1970138 CrashisOptimistic
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This is not rocket science.  London Stock Exchange trading was going to get hit with a transaction tax, the proceeds of which were to go to Brussels.  How could any UK prime minister tolerate that?

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:36 | 1970375 Fukushima Sam
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Fuck Brussels.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:48 | 1970147 Irish66
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this great tv

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:50 | 1970159 junkyardjack
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Its like watching shakespeare, I can't even believe they really operate like this.  This is like watching MTV's Yo Momma

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:49 | 1970157 Davalicious
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Cameron is all for the Kleptocracy. He couldn't agree to jump into a federal Europe without safeguards for his masters. On top of that, the cock sucker is a survivor. He would have been fired from the Tory party if he had taken this step.

Don't get Cameron wrong. He is a Federalist, not a democrat. He just wants to make sure that his backers are satisfied with the deal, before he gives away souvereignty. 

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:51 | 1970165 Negro Primero
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...bunga-bunga the english way

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:52 | 1970166 Dr. Engali
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It's funny how you have cat calls and interruptions. If they do that here they are treated like they are a boil on the hind end of politics. Our politicians need to get the broomstick out of their asses.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:53 | 1970170 Abitdodgie
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Could you go to a bisiness meeting and behave like a british MP you would get fired , will somebody hack a drone and take out westminster.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:53 | 1970171 PaperBear
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As a Brit I want Europe to return to a single economic market and ditch all the junk that has come later.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:54 | 1970180 PaperBear
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The people of other European nations must elect governments that obey the people's instruction to return to a single economic market and ditch all the junk that has come later.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:41 | 1970340 i-dog
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... yet they will just keep bashing away -- like a 2-yr-old -- at trying to fit the square peg into a round hole.

"Little more than a year ago, it was largely thought Utopian to bring together socialists, liberals and conservatives, religious believers and free-thinkers, big employers, bankers, financiers, economists and trade union leaders, parliamentarians and scholars, military people and artists, under one common denominator, that is to say to bring all those divergent individuals together on a programme of common interest. Today this Utopian ideal has become a fact." ... Pieter Kerstans, Dutch chairman of the Congress of Europe, May 7th, 1949.

That quote was when there were only 10 states in the EU. Now there are 27 and counting.

Do the people of individual cultures REALLY want their leaders to force-fit them into a single common denominator? With decisions arbitrarily imposed by faceless technocrats located thousands of miles away?

It's not what the people want ... it's what a select group wants, in order to centralise control over the greatest number of people. It's called imperialism.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 15:05 | 1971072 bombimbom
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and many of you keep failing to see that the reason why there are "faceless technocrats" is because there is no political union yet. and there is no political union because the state members are reluctant to cede that much sovereignity.
Now it's the sovereign state members that by negotiations and agreements appoint people and choose directions. that is because of what I said above not because of the supposed ineherently undemocratic nature of the EU.

the funny thing is that many of you complain about the lack of democratic governance while, at the same time, being strongly against the radical steps ahead in the integration that would permit to solve that problem, ie the political union. 

I hope it won't take a lot of time to reach a political union, with a european government resulting from the majority in the elected european parliament, so people would stop foolishly complaining about the "technocrats".

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 14:15 | 1970871 Zero Debt
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Long stone and bone futures

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:53 | 1970174 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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A rowdy bunch the brits are

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:59 | 1970195 junkyardjack
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If US politics were like this, Chris Rock would be President

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:19 | 1970299 GoodMorningMr.V...
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IF US Politics were like this, people might actually watch C-SPAN

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:53 | 1970175 SirPlayomic
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The sooner Scotland can extricate itself from the sinking UK the better. I just hope they've the sense to follow Norway's lead and keep the EU at arms length. Would be insane to get your sovereignty back after 300 years only to give it away again.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:59 | 1970193 theMAXILOPEZpsycho
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Scotland will be like any other pigs nation without england - london in particular...

You have huge unemployment, huge numbers of benefits claiments, probably the least healthy population in the western world, huge illiteracy rates...and you get huge tax subsidies from london...the only reason to leave is pure nationalism, you're the winners out of the deal

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:36 | 1970338 SirPlayomic
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Ah, the "you're too poor, too stupid and too wee" argument a la Daily Mail. That argument failed miserably in the recent Scottish election. Perhaps you heard about that?

If what you are saying is true, then why is Westminster fighting so hard to retain Scotland? Here are some no doubt uncomfortable facts for you: Scotland pays more than it gets back (official and once secret westminster figures prove this), Scotland has lower unemployment than England, lower benefit claiments, a highly educated population (many English choose Scottish universities). The reason to leave the Union is not nationalism, it's about getting independence from and our sovereignty back from the banker controlled cesspit that is Westminister. Don't take it personally (unless your one of the banking scum, it that case you better take it very personally).

Look at it this way. If 300 years of "Union" with England has brought Scotland what you claim, ie:

"You have huge unemployment, huge numbers of benefits claiments, probably the least healthy population in the western world, huge illiteracy rates...

Then why on earth would any Scotsman want to continue with this clearly abusive relationship?

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:38 | 1970383 BandGap
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My grandfather was from Scotland - from the border Clan Kerr.  No love for the English going back centuries.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:42 | 1970400 SirPlayomic
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There's certainly a lot of history between the two nations, but for me personally, I don't have a problem with the English as they really aren't the problem. Their banker puppet government however, this I have a problem with.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:54 | 1970176 bob_dabolina
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They sound like a bunch of cackling birds and sick cats having sex

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 11:59 | 1970191 Cone of Uncertainty
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What the Bank of England wants, the Bank of England gets.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:47 | 1970413 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:00 | 1970197 xela2200
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Good old fashion British pride. It helped them conquer the world, and then it help them to loose it.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:02 | 1970202 BlackVoid
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The UK is just a Trojan Horse of the US in the EU.

The EU troubles are a useful distraction for now.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:03 | 1970208 BlackVoid
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UK should have never been allowed into the EU. DeGaulle was right about this. What he feared came to pass (not just now).

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:32 | 1970351 hollowbody
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LMAO at that. You are talking about the same deGaulle who after deserting from his army in France and running away, sought refuge in London? The same deGaulle that Churchill recognised as leader of the free French whilst Roosevelt and the US backed Vichy (the Nazis puppets)?

And so it goes on. No-one in the Eurozone has stood up to what the Germans have been doing with the Euro - and laughable now that they are regarded as the powerhouse of Europe when it has been built on the manipulation of the Euro for their ends.

The irony of all of this is that the one country throughout the entirety of the EU where a government would be able to achieve the level of austerity that the new Brussell's treaty demands is the UK, currently suffering a level of cuts which may well be necessary (though not sufficient) that would have politicians in most of Europe hanging from the street lamps....

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:03 | 1970213 King Dong
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David Camelface is a dick doing what he is told by the city of london

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:48 | 1970421 TheFourthStooge-ing
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If you watch carefully, you can see the puppet strings.


Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:04 | 1970215 slaughterer
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Where is Million Dollar Bonus?  He should write something about Cameron here

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:04 | 1970216 Meremortal
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Britain chooses to remain sovereign, and some are surprised? Meanwhile, southern Europe fawns like an abused dog at the feet of the technocrats.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:31 | 1970343 eurogold
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Without the banking sector, Britain would be a third world country! Let's speed up the process and throw them out of the EU!

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:49 | 1970425 TheFourthStooge-ing
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Only as sovereign as the City of London allows Britain to be.


Mon, 12/12/2011 - 14:23 | 1970912 Zero Debt
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Yep. Operation Sea Lion II = Epic Fail.

Watch the UK printing press overtake the ECB with shock and awe QE.

No printing press = no sovereignty.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:06 | 1970224 RickyBobby
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That was hilarious. The wheels are officially coming off.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:08 | 1970233 Mark123
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It's hard to see in this picture, but you can just make out the puppet strings moving Cameron....

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:50 | 1970436 TheFourthStooge-ing
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You saw them too? It's almost like they're not even trying to hide them anymore.


Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:09 | 1970242 JR
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To ascribe David Cameron’s action as furthering the interest of Rothschild is incorrect. The Rothschilds, from their inception, have wanted a world government that they can control. A breakup of the euro zone is a huge setback for the internationalists. If the Rothschilds are not internationalists, then what are they?

Somebody is trying to fool somebody here, trying to turn the tables. But they can’t fool me.

Cameron may want what the Rothschilds want, I don’t know,  but he also has the British people to satisfy. I heard his speech. In essence he said: This is a fine setup where we’re all going to get together to agree, but I can’t do that; I can’t take this to my parliament and ask them to ok this because it’s not in Britain’s interests.

And it isn’t. The Brits don’t need this.

I contend that a European Union cum euro zone established in spite of the sovereign will of the people of Europe, handed over to Goldman Sachs centralized control, is treason.

It destroys representative government, liberty and prosperity. It punishes patriotism.

“A just law deserves our obedience. But if a law bring fear and slavery, then it is an evil law, upheld by evil men…” Cicero

Look about you and the world, we are the victims of the “lenders of last resort”; they exist at our extreme peril.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:26 | 1970324 spekulatn
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"I would like to thank the internet for that."

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:47 | 1970416 JR
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Thanks! spekulatn. Anthony Wile’s capped it: “It begs common sense to maintain that this was built up so painfully and with such determined malevolence with the idea of its destruction in mind. No, the preferred plan, as is obvious and evident, is to build up ‘unions’ of countries around the world – and then to build global governance on top of it.

“There can be NO doubt of this. There are now 'unions' – and planned currency unions – around the world.” Says Wile:

And another one gone, and another one gone ... Another one bites the dust ? Queen

Is it possible that the biggest roll-up in history is foundering?

What roll-up? Well ... roll-up, of course, is a money-industry term of art. It means that someone ? an enterprising banker backed by big money ? begins to buy up mom and pop shops to turn them into one large industry with "economies of scale" and an intrinsic value that is larger than its individual moving parts.

In this case, the roll-up that is taking place is of nation-states.

The bankroll comes from central banks...

But if such a roll-up is taking place, it just hit a snag. The Anglosphere power elite that is trying to create worldwide government seems to have suffered yet another setback with the withdrawal of Britain and three other countries from upcoming treaties designed to make the EU even more of a massive nation-state.

Ironically, Britain (home of the City of London's mile-square nexus of elite, global domination) has led the way. Apparently, there is simply too much resistance among the population and even the political class to overcome. I would like to thank the Internet for that. Perhaps people for the first time in a long time are waking up and realizing what is being done TO them in THEIR name. ...

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 15:39 | 1971229 Iwanttoknow
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Sir,you make a valid point.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:12 | 1970261 Spastica Rex
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The City is eating itself.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:12 | 1970262 Lord Peter Pipsqueak
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Cameron is nothing other than a banking tool.The way the UK press are reporting this it is as if he has just gone and negotiated a victory for the UK.

All he has done is witheld support for the new "fix" on the grounds that it is not in the interests of the UK finance sector ie The City.Nothing else was mentioned,so presumably if they didn't want to impose a financial transaction tax,he would have gladly sold the country down the river to Germanic serfdom just like the other leaders fell over themselves to do.In other words,his sole interest was that of the City of London,all other matters relating to the UK and its membership were irrelevant.

Now the press are warning of a backlash against the UK,and another attempt to impose taxes on the City regardless,so we'll see in time what a massive victory Cameron has actually won.

There's a very simple way for Cameron to avoid the tax on the city and the net contributions the UK has to make every year,and that is to completely withdraw from the EU.In recent polls, 75% of the UK population wanted to leave the EU,but that is precisely why they will never be given that vote.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:28 | 1970335 eurogold
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Sorry.....everyone wants the benefits of membership, just like everyone now wants to leave the party. It doesn't work that way.

How about the British shut the hell up.....just one time.........or leave! Continental Europe doesn't need the U.K. All the U.K. has is banking (40% of GDP) so let the British go to hell!

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 15:02 | 1971061 Sandmann
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Continental Europe doesn't need the U.K

SECOND LARGEST NET CONTRIBUTOR AFTER GERMANY = UK  so Germany will have much bigger Bills to pay without the UK


Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:34 | 1970365 reload
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2 points

The size os Camerons `victory` IS unclear. Further attempts to introduce a financial transaction tax will no doubt be made by the EU. However Cameron is not yet out of bargaining chips, the Mastricht treaty does not have provision for the EU institutions to manage and administer a fiscal union. That will need treaty changes and probably refferendums in individual states IF the UK makes a big enough fuss about it.

Cameron had no choice but to use the UK veto. If he had not the result would have been a transfer of power via acceptance of outside fiscal governance. He can not agree to that without a refferendum, which would be DOA.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 13:04 | 1970510 JR
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Now the press are warning of a backlash against the UK... Lord Peter

That is why the press, 96% of which it is said is in the hands of in the hands six companies, is reacting thusly.  And I repeat……

'In the Middle of a Storm'

"We are in the middle of a storm, which is why the hands of the leaders cannot be shaking," said Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban. His Romanian counterpart Traian Basescu said that his country fervently hopes that the euro will be saved. "Every decision in Brussels will affect the daily lives of all Romanians," Basescu said. He called for an agreement among all 27 EU countries and not just the 17 euro countries.

Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte also announced his resistance to a euro treaty for only the 17 nations of the monetary union. "It is of great importance … that we keep countries such as the UK, Sweden and the Baltic countries and Poland in. We also have to make sure that we keep the union of 27 together," Rutte said upon his arrival in Brussels.

European Council President Herman Van Rompuy agrees. He too feels that it would be difficult to legally enshrine the new supervisory powers of the EU institutions if they were approved only by the 17 euro-zone countries.

Translated from the German by Christopher Sultan

That’s the Van Rompuy who said as EU president:  “2009 is also the first year of global governance with the establishment of the G-20 in the middle of a financial crisis.”

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:14 | 1970269 moskov
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IF UK really wants to become sovereign, they should just leave the EU

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:52 | 1970444 TheFourthStooge-ing
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If the UK really wants to become sovereign, they should just incinerate the City of London.


Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:16 | 1970278 Sudden Debt
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I do think he made the right decision.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:26 | 1970323 Eally Ucked
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Any decission would be right! It's worth nothing, it can be changed in a nick of time anyway. If I have my credit card maxed out and can afford only interest payment (in this case it is questionable) your choices are limited don't you think?

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:51 | 1970441 GMadScientist
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But for reasons vastly different than those being put forth. No donut.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:23 | 1970314 eurogold
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Thats right the U.K. should leave the EU. All they ever wanted was to make rules for others, yet not have any imposed on themselves. Its high time to get the British to adher to continental banking rules, or to exclude them altogether!

Camron.....go Fuck yourself!

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 14:57 | 1971037 Sandmann
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to get the British to adher to continental banking rules


You mean like SOCGen, Credit Agricole, Unicredit, UBS, Credit Suisse, WestLB, NordLB, HVB, BayernLB.................or do you mean like Deutsche Bank in London ?

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:26 | 1970327 Meremortal
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UK will only leave the EU after the dominoes start to topple. I'll take Portugal in the "Whose first out?" pool. 2 dominoes, maybe 3, and the UK takes a powder.


Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:28 | 1970334 FunkyOldGeezer
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Europe's proud history to date:-

Without EU = wars

With EU = peace

Short term he may well be right in his assumptions.

Strategically though, he's made a grave mistake, IMO. Sooner or later, the UK will desperately need the EU to back it up.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 14:55 | 1971031 Sandmann
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Half Continent occupied by USSR = Warsaw Pact. the other half occupied by USA = NATO.  They didn't want to fight so PEACE. Besides Churchill and Roosevelt gave Stalin everything Hitler wanted.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:37 | 1970378 Meremortal
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The EU is a rag-tag group of walking dead with one strong entity pulling the wagon. It is doomed. The willingness of some to live under the yoke in hopes of being taken care of is disgusting.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 12:51 | 1970414 sitenine
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Cameron is a liar. The UK is the financial center of the World for one reason only - they allow activity that any other Country on earth considers to be fraud. Repo 105? Infinite re-hypothication? You bet your ass, and banks all over the World are betting your ass as well! Folks, when subsequent lenders can claim senior creditor status on YOUR deposits, you have a Fucking Big Ass Problem! STFU David Cameron!

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 13:09 | 1970542 Börjesson
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When asked to clarify his new attitude towards the EU and the eurozone, the Prime Minister uncharacteristically burst into song:


Bless 'em all, bless 'em all
The long and the short and the tall
Bless the Merkozy, the Frogs and the Huns
Bless all the PIIGies, the penniless ones
'Cause we're saying goodbye to them all
As back home to Brussels they crawl
We'll have no New Order
This side of the border
So cheer up my lads, bless 'em all!


Mon, 12/12/2011 - 13:09 | 1970547 jmcadg
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Sovereignty and Unlimited Rehypothecation or Eurocontrol and arse on a stick.

Hardly a difficult choice.

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 13:10 | 1970559 BLOTTO
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Europena Union will not fail anytime soon. It took them way too long to build and create it - to have it bust. Its part of the agenda and plan.

Other EU memmber will get kicked out and other - new members will join.

Germany is taking over Europe like it tried to do back in the day... but this time, no shots fired. Who do you think sits on the thrown in England? The English?haha. Thats a Merovingian/Frankish bloodline on the thrown.


Mon, 12/12/2011 - 13:25 | 1970630 JR
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This is going to be the most revealing news yet, that the Prussians have swept control of the City and this very day have given marching orders to AIPAC, ADL, Goldman, and their chief field marshal, Benjamin Netanyahu (He’ll run the tanks through the desert like Rommel could never have mastered to save the City)!

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 13:50 | 1970752 swani
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Cameron needs to keep the unregulated banking sector intact at all costs. 

Mon, 12/12/2011 - 18:14 | 1971790 0ppenheimer
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Funny. I see a lot of the same people here chiding Britain for not joining a pan-European economic overlord who were previously lauding the pending default of Greece and their refusal to submit their monetary and economic sovreignty to just such an authority....

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