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Watch G-Pap's Parliament Address Live
It's all Greek to us, and even if it was in English, it still would be, but watching body language while backpeddaling 180 degrees, after having your bluff called, always fun.
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BOY/\H means JKLOL in Greek.
Pap: "We need global governance, and we need it fast!" (see video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBln-RklD8k
After all that is what fiat currency crisis is all about...
Thats what this is ALL about! Get everything to bunged up that 'the solution' is just go to a 1 world govt, 1 world currency...see all fixed with World Bank kings....GPap calling for it, Vatican just called for it, IMF has called for it!
And there you have it folks, the market goes up on news of suppressed democracy.
I think Lindsey Williams is exactly right. They will not let a collapse happen yet. Their plan is to create so much debt that everyone ends up bankrupt and they end up owning everything. Can't make your mortgage payment? The govt owns your home. Can't pay your property taxes? The govt takes possession of your home and rent it back to you. Can't feed your family? The govt can help you. [My thought]Here, take this chip (NOT the mark of the beast) and you'll be set for life. People will be brought to such a point of desperation that they will beg for a global central bank and a New World Order.
Guest Lindsey Williams November 2
http://patriotarchives.blogspot.com/
when ows says they are the 99 percent. they are correct. they want help. they want change. they want the government to do it all. so they will be the ones that take this mark and the one percent? what will happen to them? the ones that refuse to bow the knee. oh you wicked one percent, how dare you defy the new world order............... how dare you defy the noahide laws, you noahides....
Not really... the claim of 99% by OWS is basically a demand for more tribute payment/rations. It's disingenuous at best to think that many are not in cahoots with the 1%, just far less benefitted. Ultimately, the socialist policies are all the same and they've met the inherent flaw, that some animals are more equal than others on animal farm. Their outrage isn't at the 1%, it's at themselves for this inherent conflict of ideals. (thinking that equality was some real, tangible thing that could be provided by someone else).
In the end, I dunno what the % figure is that actually desires to be productive, can be productive, AND knows there is no free lunch. It's definitely lower than 99%... and it's definitely higher than 1%. In order to exert the kind of control oft talked about on here, TPTB would need to be much, much more overt (and I realize you think they presently are, but they are not). Subtle nuances... incremental changes... the illusion of free will. Without these methods, the control apparatus fails... not for all societies mind you, but for americans it does.
I wouldn't fret as much... if it is as bad as you say, then you don't get to change the course of anything... if it isn't as bad as you would believe, then you've already won, just wait and see... (kind of like waiting on gravity to sag a pair of fake tits... or fake economy in this case).
I agree with most of what you said but... things do not always go along at the same rate. Cataclysmic events do occur at points in history. Like war, for instance.
What TPTB plan, and what they are able to accomplish in a desired timeframe, are two different things. I also think it is a mistake to view them as a completely cohesive group (not that you do). They may have the same ultimate goal but each faction would like to be the head, not the tail. Look at China, India, Brazil, etc. To the Anglo-American contingent, they say "Not so fast. You have been the head for three centuries, and we will not allow you to bring everything down with you. For Now it is our time in the sun." So no one knows for sure how it will all come down in the short/medium term, not even TPTB. This is just how I see things.
You mean one world debt that will lead to a one world default eventually. Why does anybody think that piling higher and deeper will lead to anything else but total disaster is beyond me. Really if they manage to sell this crap as a solution to anything and anybody buys it, the world population is dumber than I thought.
I like the BOOYAH! to start it all off.
My Greek (the language) is rusty, but I will try:
"Late last night"...something something..."strange phone call to my personal phone"...something about a "dead fish or "squid like creature delivered" to his "porch"...something that I can't translate...."Jackals" and "global banking cartel."
I have no idea what this all means.
...."Jackals" and "global banking cartel."
Correction...It was Jekyl and then something about an island.
"creature delivered" is a very rough translation.
And there, in the bed next to me, was the head of my favorite horse delivered by some creature from Jekyl Island.
There, fixed it for you.
"Jackal" could have been "Jekyll" and" squid like" creature may have definitely been merely "creature."
My Greek is very poor.
The one thing I feel confident of is that he mentioned he that he was "deeply remiss" in not "clearing the referendum" idea with "certain persons" before mentioning it publicly.
On a seperate but related note, has the EU been turned into Hotel California?:
Mirrors on the ceiling,
The pink champagne on ice
And she said ’we are all just prisoners here, of our own device’
And in the master’s chambers,
They gathered for the feast
They stab it with their steely knives,
But they just can’t kill the beast
Last thing I remember, I was
Running for the door
I had to find the passage back
To the place I was before
’relax,’ said the night man,
We are programmed to receive.
You can checkout any time you like,
But you can never leave!
It was never on. All these politicians have a weak underbelly -- wealth stowed away in so called "safe" places like Switzerland but they would be cut off from it if they don't do the bidding of the PTB. All that would get exposed if they were to go against the financial elite.
Following some serious pressure from Angie...
This is the third time in a century that Germany has tried to foist political integration on Europe. This will be the third time that they've left the place in a smouldering ruins. Can't we just build a wall around the whole country and shoot the bejesus out of anything that tries to come out?
That is putting it mildly.
The common factor I see is that all three attempts have similar themes:
1) Your democracy is not suitable for our requirements
2) We will proceed with our plan regardless of how damaged your country becomes.
Voting? There is no voting in Europe!
Where do those Greeks get their crazy ideas about democracy?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/adolf-merkel-presenting-greek-gratitude-50-debt-haircut
Up-arrow to infinity.
I'll get the bottle. Does this guy blame the 1% too? Can someone translate "Pass this bill now" for me. I wold hate to miss an opportunity to drink before noon-CST.
?????????? ?? ?????????? ????
After almost 2 years on ZH Im surprised you missed this one. I am referencing a popular drinking game when the POTUS does his jobs speech-
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/obama-speaks-live-has-teleprompter-been-found
He tried posting the google translation of the statement but the font isn't supported so it comes out as ?'s.
From here in case you want to hit the listen to this button.
fuck. doesn't G-Pap know it's movember (moustache-november). It's his month to shine. own it.
http://mikenormaneconomics.blogspot.com/2011/11/its-getting-ugly-out-there.html
Someone needs to make a Super Mario game where Mario jumps on Gpap's head to knock him out of the contest.
I never bought a video game before but I'll buy this one.
Watch G-Pap's Parliament Address Live
NO!!!
JEF BK today or no?
Your sell short order cannot be processed. Short sales in this security are not allowed, as we were unable to borrow the shares.
thanks, etrade. jerks.
Your democracy has been dissolved. The only way you'll ever be anything more than slaves is to take your country back with swift and blinding violence. A bullet in the head of every banker and politican in Greece or you'll never be anything but slaves, forever.
They will be replaced by worse.
The real masters are not known.
Actually Anonymous has maintained a list of them for a couple of years including all their children and parents plus the known whereabouts and security details assigned to them.
If a bounty is posted next to the primary on silkroad it's usually fulfilled in less than a week. Right now the only bounty posted though is for the Officer that shot the protestor in the head in Oakland. I think it's a dead or alive posting. Not sure, don't usually hang out on the eBay of illicit products and services.
BTW bring bitcoins, silver or gold. Nobody does business in that universe with FIAT.
Iriestx, that should be what is happening NOW in the OWS movement. We gave peace a chance. Now it's time to lock and load.
This IS the total bullshit about 'democracy'....OH sure theyll let the people have a vote, as long as the outcome can be controlled in favor of the politicians. Once it is out of the politicians hands and its obvious the peoples vote would result in the politicians neck under an axe, the voting and 'democracy' is cancelled.
Wouldn't that be why the Tree of Liberty needs to be watered with the blood of tyrants?
Yea!
For safety reasons of course. And the children.
He praises the programm once again. You don't miss anything good...
I'm telling you guys, this is about domestic politics.
The opposition was changing positions on the referendum and he was going to lose the Friday vote and be ousted.
Thank you, Captain Obvious. Who would have guessed domestic politics?
The fastest way to get NATO troops on the ground in Greece would be for G Pap to announce a Gold Drachma and instead of taking it back, then announce complementary denominations in the form of Silver Drachma. That would be the game over for all elected representatives. Hillary Clinton would scream bloody terrorists and send in the tanks and Obama would write a stack of executive orders to ensure drones swarm over Athens with immediate notice. That is basically the buy signal for popcorn.
Exactly....
'Domestic politics' as in 'How can we keep our heads out of the guillotines now"?
We do not forgive,
We do not forget,
Expect us.
Fuck this shit...time for Operation Scarlett Letter.
Ooh, scary.
But sounds kinda exciting too.
Actually it's awful but it looks like it has to be done today.
Release the Krakken!
He says that the decision for the referendum was his gonverment and it is part of the democracie.....
Time for the Greeks to march on the parliament and storm the Bastille.
G-Pap is a coward.
I agree....he could play tough now but he pulls back once again...
I ..... did .... it all ............ for the children ! (yes that's right for the children) and you better believe it !
I'll watch a Chicago based, telepromptor reading politician when I want my fill of lies, corruption and stupidity. Thanks anyway.
G-Pap didn't get his bluff called. What we saw the past week, and I fell for it too, was a brilliant piece of wrongfooting his opposition. The opposition was bitching from the sidelines while he was getting all the shit heaped on his head. This had to stop, so he came up with this perfect plan to co-opt and neuter them, most likely after consultation with Merkozy.
Whatever your opinion of Greece and the bailout, this was one pice of fantastic tactical politics.
That's a snappy idea. If our leaders were bookers at a pro-wrestling event! Do they have any idea what the public fallout will be? G-Pap is the eye of the public storm now, and as its slower-on-the-uptake constituents grow cognizant of the great gamesmanship played out by and against their own parliament, the heat'll shift to their "representatives."
Do you think they want a shitstorm? I think your post is right-on, but I can't get around (for me) what is its calculated logical end: massive public unrest, burning and smoldering for a long time.
Looks like he held out for a bigger payout in selling his own people out. Afterall slave trading is not a cheap game.
Sickening tosser.
He wants his people to rise up. Just not against him.
unfuckingbelievable EU! All pretense of a democractic euorpe is now well and truly over. Welcome to Greece the new EU colony/prison state.
If i was greek i would be chucking molotovs at the parliament. Those farkers have sold out their own citizens.
And those Greek politcial hacks. Never before have i seen such weakling cowardly politcians bending to the will of their euro masters.
mark to day as the day that the EU officially became a facist dictatorship.
Gone is the referendum and up go the stock exchanges.
Referendums, democracy and the will of 'The People' are obviously bad for business...
I can't believe this guy is on TV. How am I going to get my Kim Kardashian updates?
I think G-Pap is giving his people the Kim K. updates. I think I heard 'kim' a few times.
I can't believe this guy is on TV. How am I going to get my Kim Kardashian updates?
Her a$$ is still jyyyyyyyynormous.
Now you are updated.
Carry on.
:)
Like anyone really thought, except Zero Hedge, that Greece was going to leave the EZ. Without funding for November, shit would have hit the fan in complete dissaray: human nature is to ALWAYS kick the can when the human referred to is a "herd."
So simple, such a waste of time all these Greek posts.
problem is leaving the eurozone was the RIGHT thing for them to do, its just been nixed by the corrupt eurogliarchy.
ZH is and was right about what should happen in order so that Greece can one day become more competitive, that now that day will never come because they will be forever a colony state that does what it is told by its masters.
Hurrah what a great outcome - sarcasm
Don't get me wrong: ZH is completely right about the long term structural problems fiat confetti has created. But wrong in many posts that assumed it was a done deal that Greece was gone. it's not about what is right to do; it's about reality--not sensationalism.
Period.
To be a politician, one must first be a coward.
iddle Geek peeople... they always sound like they're taking your order when they are talking. Perhaps that's where the expression "beware of Greeks bearing gifts " come from.
i feel like throwing up. seriously this is a sick event, a moment in time when one realises the whole edifice is evil, its instituitonal corruption on a breathtaking scale and there appears no way to get rid of it.
pass me a bucket...
All in the Greek peoples hands now. The 'military brass shakeup' was obviously for the bankers protection, probably had some revolutionaries in there....so anyway Greek people what are you going to do now?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athenian_democracy
He was ordered to dance before the cameras, like the compliant puppet he is.
There will be news of some high level politician assasination crossing the newswires soon, has to be.
These people have spent their entire lives playing with voters minds and running one gig after another.... nothing to see here move along.
If 'voters' cant see by now their 'democratic rights to vote' means absolutely nothing then they deserve to lose their soveriegnty...same applies in all countries.
"Let me agree with that. Many of my constituents are Bankers and have been honored with that certain friendship by my close Banker friends. Up to this point before I have to leave this hearing to join my own committee, let me say, that this hearing on the Bailout is in no way a slur on the bankers by the Cabinet; nor is it meant to be; nor will I allow it to be. Euro Bankers are the hardest loaning, most law abiding patriotic members of our Euro zone. It is a shame and a pity that a few rotten apples give them a bad name. We are here to weed those rotten apples out of the vast healthy barrel of Bankers, who are one of the backbones of our economy."
What a beautiful language! "I AM DESPERATELY CAUGHT BY THE BALLS" never sounded so lovely.
hold the phone....
Papandreou says we are bearing a cross and we are being stoned
Papandreou says at stake is if we, as a country, are ready to implement EU decisions
Papandreou says rejection of bailout deal would signal start of euro zone exit
Papandreou warns if we dont meet our obligations, the euro membership is a stake
Papandreou says he trusts the wisdom of the Greek people and says EU partners acknowledge the right to hold referendum or elections
Papandreou says the referendum is a clear definitive answer to all questions in Greece, abroad\
First you off the public a chance to decide and then you try to take it away...? That has to be one of the top 3 reasons to light a torch.
Yea, 'Of course you'll have your full democratic 'rights' to say how you want it soon people....oh wait, youre voting to put our necks in the guillotines? Democracy now cancelled, bitchez'.
Oh no, I only see rediation from the caption, Has the atomic war started?
the upside is this should draw the Robo-Lemmings to the cliff's edge.
now they are obligated to give Greece more money - drinks all around!
So why hasn't CNBS announced this yet? Are they waiting for the market to start dumping again or what? It seems like they highlight ANY sort of potential maybe news and then spin it up, so again, why hasn't the MSM released this? Or am I late to the party?
http://ctj.org/ctjreports/2011/11/corporate_taxpayers_corporate_tax_dodgers_2008-2010.php
http://www.ctj.org/pdf/12corps060111.pdf
NEW REPORT: 280 Most Profitable U.S. Corporations Shelter Half Their Profits from Taxes.
“These 280 corporations received a total of nearly $224 billion in tax subsidies,” said Robert McIntyre, Director at Citizens for Tax Justice and the report’s lead author. “This is wasted money that could have gone to protect Medicare, create jobs and cut the deficit.”
· 30 Companies average less than zero tax bill in the last three Years, 78 had at least one no-tax year.
· Financial services received the largest share of all federal tax subsidies over the last three years. More than half the tax subsidies for companies in the study went to four industries: financial services, utilities, telecommunications, and oil, gas & pipelines.
· U.S. corporations with significant foreign profits paid tax rates to foreign countries that were almost a third higher than they paid to the IRS on their domestic profits.
Treasury Borrowing Advisory Committee of the Securities Industry and Financial Markets Association
http://www.treasury.gov/press-center/press-releases/Pages/tg1350.aspx
Lets Play Connect the Dots!
http://www.treasury.gov/press-center/press-releases/Documents/TBAC_Fin_Table_Q4_2011.pdf
http://www.treasury.gov/press-center/press-releases/Documents/TBAC_Fin_Table_Q1_2012.pdf
http://www.opensecrets.org/
BUT!! HEY!! These Numerical Facts were Provided by LEFT Leaning Groups!
So!! Lets Spin the Lefties! Numerical Facts into Liberal Swill!
Do NOT! let the Numerical facts get in the way!! Use Personal Attacks and the good ole' "Follow Your Gut" come backs!
Feelings can and will over come Numerical Fact.. and besides.. no one likes looking at numbers except nerds! People with a life dont have time to know the truth!
Ignorance is Bliss! and Stupidity is Heaven!! pass the word!
I must say that I'm dissappointed, typically you would have listed all 280, double spaced.
We will never know the truth, but I wonder if this diversion wasn't designed to stall the military coup for just long enough to get the current leadership out of the way.
"Don't worry boys, we are gonna have a referendum. Meantime, you look like you could use a vacation..."
So, it's been over a 1 1/2 years we're talking about Greece. If Greece is not the "big prize", then how long does anyone think we'd be talking about that? The answer is 15 minutes according to the Bernank!
The ancient Greeks must be rolling over in their graves...how pathetic has this country become!
How can these people expect anyone to not start full blown revolutions, dragging them all out by ropes and hanging them from lamp posts, when they do THIS kind of shit? Promising the people their vote on how it will all happen, then taking it away within 24 hours? All trust in govt is gone.
These dickheads are playing with fire.
Well, you could tell whose side the markets are on.....
CNBC now lauding G-Pap as a savy political leader...
That's quite an insult, akin to saying he's an exemplary piece of vermin.
the police has shutdown the subway stations and the exits to Syntagma Square and Omonoia Squarea
“Perhaps Papandreou should make sure there is a helicopter on standby, to rescue him from the presidential palace should he be forced to flee from angry protesters — as Argentine President Fernando de la Rue was in December 2001.”
You can only pull a gun out so many times with out bullets.. One day some will say pull the triger
a government which is using 2 years long blackmails and oppression upon its people and then comes with a fraudy referendum is like the mafia:
the mafia first creates a problem in the neighbourhood, by putting bombs into innocent people' stores?, destroying them, and after a week shows up selling self defence and security packages...
you can't take gifts (referendums) serious, when they come in the hands of your torturer
Somebody's Going To Hurt Someone, Before The Night Is Through (Heartache Tonight) - Syntagma Square Version"Wer an seinem Leben hängt, tanzt nach der Pfeife der Machtelite und wer aus der Reihe tanzt, setzt es aufs Spiel"
Josef Ackermann
"Whoever loves his life,have to dance to the tune of the power elite and who steps out of line, puts it at risk"
Josef Ackermann
Flip flop continues.
well perhaps now that the referendum is off, the world can shift back focus to the realization that THE EURO BAILOUT DOESN'T WORK. I was expecting a bit more pathos on that.
Every day, there is at least one that prompts me to think, "I'm glad I'm not him!"
http://georgesblogforum.wordpress.com/2011/11/02/the-daily-climb-2/
Difficult to talk with the fat lip and teeth missing.
Even if it went to a referendum does anyone really think the result would have been a NO? See Irelands vote on the Nice treaty,first result NO,made to repeat and miraculously they changed their mind to YES.What they voted on second time around was essentially the same,just a few minor tweaks and changes in punctuation.
There would be no doubt the Greeks would have been stitched up on a referendum,now they like the British won't even be given a rigged ballot to vote on.