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Watch The Latest Attempt To Occupy Wall Street (On A Weekend?) Live

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If there is one thing America has had a lot of, it is (failed) attempts to make a political statement by "occupying" Wall Street, although how anyone makes a "statement" on a weekend, when all the trading on Wall Street is done out of Chicago and Mahwah (and not on Saturday), and all the actual capital decisions are made out of midtown (and Shanghai) is a little confusing. Today, Operation EmpireStateRebellion, for whom this is neither the first, nor the last attempt to organize an improvized rebellion, has proceeded with its latest such statement, which will come and go and achieve nothing, as unfortunately the welfare and entitlement society of the US is ingrained far too deeply fo anyone to actually willingly give up on their paper 201(k)s and Social Security benefits, no matter how much of an underfunded ponzi they may be. The only time something, anything, can happen in the US is when that monthly retirement fund, annuity report or Schwab statement shows $0.00 in the bottom line for everyone (middle class that is, the others will have long since converted their paper wealth into physical). Not a second before. That said we do wish them all the best. Those willing to watch this weekend's gathering of idealists can do so at the webcast (with commercial interruptions) below.


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Sat, 09/17/2011 - 15:33 | 1680229 Earl of Chiswick
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Not to worry, Mayor Mike will have them Tazed and in shackles by sunset

(sorry for being negative - we do wish them the best)

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 15:49 | 1680282 wanklord
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Controlled opposition. Besides that Americans are a bunch of stupid animals easy to manipulate and subdue.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 15:56 | 1680310 Freddie
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Anyone who watches TV is a serf and supports being a f***ing serf.  They deserve serfdom. ALl the networks are the same.   Fox run by Al Waleed and Mordechi is the illusion of an alternative.

Hopefully these union goons will have the guts to go to Goldman Sachs and defeciate all over the trading desks.  They won't because this is a charade.  They are on the same team.   Union scum and Wall Street vermin f**king over Main Street.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 16:42 | 1680454 GetZeeGold
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Heh heh.........with commercial interruptions.


Sat, 09/17/2011 - 18:32 | 1680679 Loose Caboose
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Not unlike banners all over the webpage advertising credit cards, ETF's and pimping women from economically disadvantaged parts of the world.  Yes, we're so superior here.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 19:15 | 1680746 MacGruber
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Haha, this website uses websense (it reads what websites you visit and customizes the ads). Where have you been visiting? :)

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 20:51 | 1680873 NuckingFuts
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Mac is correct. If shows up in a banner ad it is something the 'system' thinks you are interested in due to how you search the web. My banner ads do not pimp women, they sell gold. Ha ha. Speak for yourself when discussing who is superior please.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 21:19 | 1680927 Montgomery Burns
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Hope Mrs. Caboose doesn't see this.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 21:27 | 1680954 Loose Caboose
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Ha.  I am a woman.  Hetero.  And I'm the the only one who uses this computer and I don't visit any sites looking for women - so I fail to see the logic.

But the point I was trying to make is that the internet is just as contamiated by commercial enterprise. I don't watch the tube anymore but I don't think for one second that the web is any purer in terms of commerical propoganda in your face, all the time. 

That was my point. 


Sat, 09/17/2011 - 21:41 | 1681001 NuckingFuts
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Well done. Your point well made. In this case your gender does warrant an apology for the "it's there because you surf porn" assumption.

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 00:11 | 1681284 Creepy Lurker
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I see why you made the assumption though. Most people don't know that if you never click on ads the software starts guessing.

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 10:25 | 1681779 Popo
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Actually, no.  She definitely clicked on some of the ads at some point, and now the adserver is targeting her as a likely click for further related ads.

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 08:37 | 1681639 Are you kidding
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Hey Loose Caboose (translation: fatass?),

You're a woman...your gender rarely understands don't fret.

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 12:02 | 1681920 Loose Caboose
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Have a great day.


Sun, 09/18/2011 - 03:36 | 1681439 BorisTheBlade
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I kindly request a list of websearches I should make to get banners with women from disadvantaged parts of the world on my ZH.

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 10:23 | 1681775 Popo
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Loose Caboose:  BUSTED!  :D

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 16:22 | 1680385 Michael
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I just saw a Ron Paul supporter give a good interview.

The last hope for America is represented down there on Wall Street.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 16:26 | 1680406 unky
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THe last hope is not some old man. We will never change something within the current government structures by voting who-ever.

THe last hope is us. We need to do something. We need to inform people and quit being part of the system as far as possible.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 16:42 | 1680461 Careless Whisper
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i'm always a little suspicious of a protest that tells you to call an 800 number and promises to keep your phone number a secret, uses gmail, and has mayor bloomberg saying they have a right to speak.


Sat, 09/17/2011 - 17:04 | 1680511 High Plains Drifter
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your suspicions are well warranted. everything is not as it seems, as usual...........

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 17:14 | 1680537 whstlblwr
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It's because you forgot to take your medication at 4PM.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 17:19 | 1680550's picture

I'll second that opinion.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 17:13 | 1680534 unky
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The protest is Okay, as some people who were not interest in the topic catch up. I just want to say that we should not wait for a Messiahs-like person to save us (who we vote into office).

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 17:15 | 1680541 whstlblwr
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It's right we can do it ourselves, just stock up bunker and ignore world. LOL.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 19:38 | 1680781 TwelfthVulture
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From the video, I'd say 80% of those protesters ALSO voted for the Messiah (TOTUS) in Chief.

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 01:34 | 1681371 muckraker
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Too bad McCain and Palin didn't win. What a ticket!

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 08:34 | 1681634 AldousHuxley
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If you are one of those fools who still think your vote counts and blame the other fool's candidate, then you are doing it wrong.


Don't vote, donate money. That's the elite way.


Sun, 09/18/2011 - 11:59 | 1681927 TwelfthVulture
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Maybe next time you vote for "change," you should get the candidate nailed down on a definition of just what that "change" entails.  Seems to me, you and they got change these past three years.  How the fuck you like it?

Honestly, you're a damn ignoramus.  McCain/Palin?  Not exactly a winning idea, but you know something dickhead?  At least the two of them were semi-qualified.  Yeah.  Held jobs in the real world before they sold their soul and became politicians.  I remember the media/talking heads going apeshit over Palin's lack of executive experience.  What?  She was both a mayor and a governor.  You may not like her, I don't, but here's the facts, she was the ONLY candidate in the race who had ANY executive experience.  Your candidate?  Motherfucker never even ran a fucking lemonaid stand.  And you voted for him?  You're a damn ignoramus.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 23:25 | 1681205 Hephasteus
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Yep the white lighters are all over these guys. The same people that brought you No mothership showing up oct 15 2009. Those guys are going to be the favorite fun toy at the next uncontrollable punitive masses party.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 17:26 | 1680562 unununium
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> We will never change something within the current government structures by voting who-ever.

Forgive me for wondering if you've ever bothered trying.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 23:04 | 1681168 Spirit Of Truth
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Where's the pitchforks and torches?

Seriously....I was thinking at least get some fake ones and have a nighttime protest outside the NY Fed w/speakers such as Peter Schiff, Marc Faber, Gerald Celente, Max Kaiser, Karl Denninger, Nomi Prins, William Black, Simon Johnson, etc.

Not THAT'D be a protest!!!

BTW, I have a contact who was the key organizer of the "New Way Forward" protests spearheaded by Bill Moyers.

 If anyone has any bright ideas, let me know. 

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 08:41 | 1681638 augie
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here's a bright idea, everyone stop reading headlines and actually go to a protest and see it for yourself.

1. occupywallstreet begins on saturday and will continue until the city gets tired of paying cops overtime and illegally removes protestors. Although it is legal to sleep on the streets in NYC for the purpose of political protest, police were saying that they did not care.

2. Controlled opposition was all to evident and class conflict is the name of the game rather than opposition towards the banking system. Most protestors lack the sophistication to understand what exactly about the banking system they are supposidly againsts so are easily manipulated into regugitating "i'm against capitalisim." Take their comments in the light they were inspired by rather than our understanding of what they are actually saying. Or don't and continue to foster division within your own lives. 

3. When media asserts a protest is failed, that implies the media is the judge as to what constitutes a successful protest. Personally, when i see 500 kids, misguided or otherwise getting off their asses to do something rather than watch T.V. or whatever it is kids do these days I say it's a success. Who is to say my opinion is any less valid than what zerohedge and other outlets say? Everything is relative, and everything has to begin somewhere.

4. That being said, although i did see a handful of Ron Paul supporters garnished with patches of discussion of the federal reserve, the crowd was largely composed of leftist conditioned children who haven't yet understood their own ideological inadequacies and how their identification with those beliefs leads to division.

5. Please don't be so quickly to judge one another based on second hand information. If zerohege has taught me anything, it is that there are two sides to every story, and while this site would imply a failure based on some very logical and reasonable criticisms, i would submit there were some very positive outcomes which are not to be overlooked. Between both these views there lies the truth. Please make up your own mind.

6. There was a gentlmen distributing a newspaper titled Third Party Independent that had  portions of Washington's farewell address overtly relevant to our situation today. The comentary in the Newspaper is nothing you haven't read before, but if you haven't read washington's farewell address, i suggest you do before you pass judgement on the intention of what these children are standing up for.  

Here's a link to the address

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 08:47 | 1681647 AldousHuxley
Sat, 09/17/2011 - 17:18 | 1680547 vast-dom
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hey fucktard Mikey this is not the anti-semitic racial hate forum. move along please.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 20:46 | 1680864 Hive Raid
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Goooonnnnnggggg!! You're today's lucky lying Jew.

More lies means more facts must be spread. Observe...

9/11 missing links (Jew orchestration of 9/11 attacks):


The Israel Lobby


And the walls came tumbling down (how Jews wage genocide on Americans today):


Full documentation, how the Jews destroyed the West. Book pdf:


Sun, 09/18/2011 - 08:58 | 1681661 AldousHuxley
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anti-semetic card = defending the indefensible

Shylock - "a monied, cruel, lecherous, avaricious outsider tolerated only because of his golden hoard"

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 21:31 | 1680960 Bringin It
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anti-Semetic ... Weren't you told to stop using that term?  I'm sure you were because you don't see it around much any more. 

Maybe you didn't get the memo.  Someone might ask who's Semetic.  Are you Semetic?  I'll tell you who's Semetic,  The Palestinians are genuinely Semetic.  So what does that make you??? 


Re. That excellent list of previous False Flag events someone put up left off the so called Levan Affair when the fact is Jews in Cairo planted bombs in American, and other targets to pin the attacks and subsequent outrage on Islamists.

As one of the young Egyptian Jews, Philippe Nathanson, stood in front of an Alexandria theater, the incendiary device he was carrying ignited prematurely. After bystanders beat out the fire in his clothing, a policeman took him into custody for questioning about the fire that witnesses said had begun in his pocket.


As the trial opened, the Israeli press reported emotionally the details of what it assumed to be a show trial on baseless charges intended to terrorize remnants of Egypt’s once large Jewish community. Assuming the same thing, British and French political leaders begged Nasser in vain to halt the proceedings. 

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 17:21 | 1680556 Prometheus418
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If Anonymous is our last hope, we are Fucked.

Lucky for you, they aren't.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 18:08 | 1680639 Clint Liquor
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I'll do my part to inform. Here is a great interview with William Black, Phd describing why no one went to jail for the massive mortgage fraud.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 21:38 | 1680991 Bringin It
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I started to read this but then I had to stop when I saw it all summed up in the beginning.

- No one went to jail because the system is hopelessly corrupt.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 17:17 | 1680548 Pickafight
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Yes, we Americans are easily led. We fought for Europe’s survival in two world wars, and a cold war where we paid to defend the entire continent while Western Europeans grew their welfare state to uncontrolled amounts. If only England and the Rest of Europe could have actually fought their way out a paper bag, maybe the world wouldn’t be in this mess. America is the only reason most Europeans are even alive today, and now we follow in the footsteps of stupidity, the stupidity that is Europe. 

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 18:08 | 1680637 theMAXILOPEZpsycho
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No you didn't. You took huge gold reserves from europe following the war and huge war debts from most countries. America was the huge benificiary from the war. Countries like the uk (fighting hitler from the start instead of waiting till their own country was attacked) were the loosers.

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 08:50 | 1681651 Max Hunter
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UK's fight with Hitler was a war of choice.  It has been extensively documented that Hitler did NOT want war with Britain.  Run along little sheep...

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 11:56 | 1681939 Kayman
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Hitler did NOT want war with Britain.

While you are at it , why not claim Hitler did not want war at all. Read Mein Kampf.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 19:28 | 1680770 Dugald
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How easily you forget, that war pulled America out of a depression, made thousands wealthy, caused advances in technology, and made the rest of the world admire and respect you....

What a shame  you have since worked so hard to reverse the situation!

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 23:35 | 1681225 Temporalist
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Without the French military, Dutch and French finance and Hyam Solomon's gold there may be no America.


Sat, 09/17/2011 - 17:44 | 1680599 william shatner
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Let's get some gasoline and matches and spice things a little bit up!

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 19:06 | 1680732 MacGruber
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Agreed, though I wouldn't call people in the U.S. animals (sounds too savage), I'd call them tame and timid house pets. Funny about this gathering - you read their organizing website, it starts with a bold quote of the First Amendment, but then waters it down with all the rules and regulations that the city provides; no hanging out in parks, no blocking other pedestrians, blah, blah, blah. Compliance of the law is expected and encouraged by the organizers. Who knows this could even be organized by the U.S. intelligencia to demonstrate to the would be demostrator the futility of their non-compliance with the Status Quo™.

Until U.S. citizens start going Greek, any timid message like this will fall quietly.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 21:45 | 1681012 Bringin It
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What's with the demonstrating-at-night program?  Are they hiding?  These people are being goofed on by the CO.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 20:58 | 1680888 jerry_theking_lawler
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this is how actual 'working stiffs' protest....after hours!!

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 15:53 | 1680297 UGrev
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Good.. they are backed the US Communist party anyway.. I've said it before; They may have similar goals, but they want ALL of wallstreet to die. I just want the corrupt businesses to die. They want Capitalism to die, and I want it to be "Free" from interventionist government any crony-ism.  Fuck these douche nozzles..

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 15:59 | 1680318 Judge Holden
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they are backed the US Communist party anyway

They want Capitalism to die

Where are you getting this from?  I haven't read that anywhere.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 16:06 | 1680344 UGrev
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"Day of rage" came from the 1960's "Days of Rage" which was spawned by the progressives.. and we know that "Progressive" is just a new way of saying "Commie". 

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 16:23 | 1680388 Judge Holden
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I would assume it would come from the Arab "Day of Rage" that brought down Mubarak, Qaddafi, Saleh etc (and were attempted in Saudi Arabia and Bahrain)

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 16:30 | 1680419 UGrev
Sat, 09/17/2011 - 16:36 | 1680443 UGrev
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uh.. did you look at the dates of the 1960's days of rage? the days of rage in the mideast do NOT supercede the days of rage in Chicago etc. 

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 16:44 | 1680471 Judge Holden
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Do you even know what you're talking about?  Didn't think so.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 17:01 | 1680506 UGrev
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This is exactly the type of retort that someone would say who won't admit they are clueless as to its' origin. This is pretty basic stuff here.

If you feel that there is more "excitement" and "relevance" with the Arab Spring's "Day of Rage"  and refuse to acknowledge the origin of the term, then you've been sucked into the Mass Media where they are attempting to twist it into some "pro-freedom" event where it's history in the USA was clearly not, unless you view it from the communist perspective.. are you a communist? 

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 17:07 | 1680519 Judge Holden
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Another "extension"?

uh.. did you look at the dates of the 1960's days of rage? the days of rage in the mideast do NOT supercede the days of rage in Chicago etc.

How am I supposed to even respond to comments like this that don't make a lick of sense?  That's why I just gave up. 

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 17:15 | 1680542 UGrev
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You sound one of those fruit loops on the march..

you - it's days of rage like those arab countries, yo.. because it sounds cooler to be like them and like it's our movement, you know? like.. it's ours.   

me -.. it came from the 1960's weather underground.

you - no it didn't, wait, what? there was a 1960's..? no there wasn't.. this is our movement, yo.. it's ours and we want to be like the Arab's.. who's movement was dubbed Days of Rage by the US Media.. 

me - you're hopeless.. I give up. Keep believing that you're special movement is original. It works for you.. 


Sat, 09/17/2011 - 17:31 | 1680572 Judge Holden
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Me - Here's this link that talks about how the protestors were inspired by the current youth-led protests in the Middle East referred to as "Day of Rage"

You - What?  No, it's from some event 40 years ago that no one has ever heard of that's been born in the last 4 decades.


Sat, 09/17/2011 - 17:33 | 1680580 UGrev
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BECAUSE THEY'RE FUCKING CLUELESS AS TO WHERE IT CAME FROM!!!!!! they got it from the freaking media and they ran with it.. the media duped them into thinking this crap was good, wholesome, freedom loving campaigning.. what a bunch of fucking idiots..INCUDING YOU. 

Jeebus, it's like talking to a lefty.. 

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 17:36 | 1680587 Judge Holden
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Dear God, you are dumb beyond words.  Why can't you just admit you were wrong?

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 18:15 | 1680650 UGrev
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Because I simply am not incorrect. But it's ok if you want to live your life thinking that you're cool because the media thinks you are.. that's not my gig.. but you have a great time in that disco, baby.. if it makes you feel special. 

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 18:33 | 1680682 theMAXILOPEZpsycho
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dude, no one cares about what the me generation were doing in the 60s...this is about a real shit storm, not some hippy vogue shit

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 20:37 | 1680850 UGrev
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If you think that this isn't a cross generation thing, you're fooling yourself.  The hippies in the 60's are the ones currently fucking up this country and they spawned beings not unlike themselves who were raised and marinated in those progressive ideals. Ignoring this, extremely, basic, fact is suicidal. 

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 22:59 | 1681164 ggm
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When the last of you fucking selfish imbecile Boomers dies, we'll be having mass parties on your graves.

The world doesn't begin and end with you and your petty problems. You are every bit as responsible for fucking up this country as the rest of your peers. The hippies sold out their values decades ago and became corporate climbers, just like you.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 20:53 | 1695246 UGrev
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I'm Gen-x,  you fucking troll. 

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 17:26 | 1680563 tamboo
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...and commie is just a new way of saying joo.


Commies are Jews
Sat, 09/17/2011 - 16:00 | 1680321 X.inf.capt
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i hope this doesnt turn into a 'bonus army' incident, making an example of these kids...

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 16:03 | 1680329 MarketTruth
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No too bright are they? They really need to be organizing protests at ALL Federal Reserve buildings each and every time the Fed releases their minutes. Wall Street is just a pawn to those who truly manufacture events and 'print' the currency/debt money scheme to aid their privately owned companies (Goldman Sach, JP Morgan, the Warburgs, the Rothschilds, etc).

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 16:04 | 1680335 DoChenRollingBearing
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@ UGrev,

I have read that too (backed by the Communists), but I so not have the link or any other good information on who is behind these Commies.

I too would like to have a "Wall Street" intact...  And I would be happy with just the "1970s" scale corruption...

For those of you too young, too naive or too stupid, the Communists are BAD.  I had my chance to see Poland and East Germany under Communism when I went for a visit with my cousin in 1984.  The Poles HATED Communism.  Ask anyone with Polish relatives...

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 16:17 | 1680345 UGrev
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Read my post above.. see 1960's "Days of Rage" hosted by leftists.. weather underground etc etc etc.. It just takes a little history to do the math. 

Like Typical commie fuck sticks, they won't come out and say it because they are pussies to the core.. but take a look at their site:

If you think their "member tour" is coincidentally during the same period as this "protest", you're fooling yourself. DISGUISE, MISLEAD and DECEIVE.. that's how they roll. 

and to debbie downer, "-1'ing" my posts... HAHHAH.. thank you for proving my point. Now go walk in front of a bus. 

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 16:31 | 1680421 Judge Holden
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So your theory is that "Day of Rage" comes from some movement from 50 years ago called "DayS of Rage" instead of the current youth-led protests called "Day of Rage" in the Arab world? 

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 16:40 | 1680451 UGrev
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They were not started in the Arab world (thousands of miles away, I might add)..  and how do you join the ARAB protests with the day of rage protests when the CPUSA site is sporting a "membership event" in new  york during this very time frame. 

Yes, I am saying that these protesters are using the same naming convention and are thus aligning themselves with what the progressives were doing. Why would you construct a "symbology" with something you don't align with? That doesn't make any sense. It would be like the T-Party wearing obama symbols on their shirts.. 

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 16:59 | 1680499 Judge Holden
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"Modeled on the "Arab Spring" uprisings that swept through Egypt, Tunisia, Syria and other countries this year, Occupy Wall Street is a "leaderless resistance movement" orchestrated through Twitter, Facebook and other social media tools."

Pretty clearly the "alignment" is that youths of the world are protesting their government.  I would have thought this was stunningly obvious.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 17:03 | 1680510 UGrev
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Mass media twist, bro.. they want to HIDE, TRICK, DECEIVE, MISGUIDE and otherwise make you beleive it was some "Freedom bound" event.  I would have thought THIS WAS UNBELIEVABLY and BLINDLY obvious.. guess not. 

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 17:43 | 1680597 tamboo
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the same forces are behind all revolutions and wars, fund both sides = profit + slaughter.


Anti-Semitic speech by German politician Martin Hohmann English ...

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 02:12 | 1681395 unerman
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You truly have no clue, you are highly confused. This is a youth movement. The young are sick of the way the world is run by todays governments. This is not a media twist, as you say. There are as many of us young "capitalists" that are angry as there are your so called "commies."

You are the one twisting it with a long forgotten term from something that happened 50 years ago, something that these protestors likely know nothing about.

Fuck off already. Your making an idiot of yourself.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 17:32 | 1680574's picture

Why are you so opposed to admitting the plain truth -- that the phrase "days of rage" originated with student protests in Chicago in 1968? It's a fact.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 17:35 | 1680585 UGrev
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I sourced it once already.. he just want's to be feel like he's apart of something cool.. and clearly doesn't get it. 

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 18:25 | 1680667's picture

We get it.

The phrase has been used recently but originated in 1968. Why is that so hard for you to understand? What if we dissect the phrase? Surely you won't claim the first common usage of the words "day," "of," or "rage" first occurred in connection with Arab Spring. Why can't you simply acknowledge that the phrase "Days of Rage" has roots in 1968 Chicago although it has been used more recently in connection with Arab Spring as well?

It's a simple matter of chronology.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 18:55 | 1680709 Judge Holden
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The reason it matters is because it goes to motive.  His claim is that the US protesters are inspired by the 1960's era "Days of Rage" - which makes them communists.  My claim is that they are inspired by the student led uprisings in the Middle East (typified by the "Day of Rage" protest) - which makes them youths protesting legitimate governmental grievances.  One of these events happend 40 years ago, the other has swept over huge swaths of the world in the last 9 months.  Which do you think inspired them?

Edit: I guarantee the phrase "Day(s) of Rage" was used before the 1960's, so your point is moot.  My point is which phrase is relevant to the protest at hand.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 21:19 | 1680925 UGrev
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Good lord, jeebus H christmas, almighty.. the Progressives DID THIS ON PURPOSE!!! that want you to think it's something "new and improved". They are trying to re-write history by "re-writing" associations. This is what they do... it's all they do.. and they absolutely will not stop until capitalism is dead.  Why can't you see that they've fucking snookered you, hook line and sinker!! 

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 06:13 | 1681532 jacklives
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They are trying to re-write history by "re-writing" associations. This is what they do... it's all they do.. and they absolutely will not stop until capitalism is dead.

if you REALLY believe that progressives are the only or even primary re-writers of history then i feel sorry for everyone that has to deal with you on a regular basis.......its hard to deal with retards

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 18:59 | 1680720 Judge Holden
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Go read the thread a few above if you don't understand what I wrote.  I never argued which came first, I argued which was relevant.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 19:12 | 1680740 Judge Holden
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Do you understand that the same phrase can emerge coincidentally from a different source at a different time, with no direct relationship to the original?

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 20:07 | 1680802's picture

You're holding quite the conversation with yourself there. Who are you trying to convince, me or you?

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 20:11 | 1680813 Judge Holden
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It's a little frustrating when I try to make the point clear to you - I was giving you the benefit of the doubt since you came in late and didn't understand the context - and you don't even bother to reply to what I actually wrote.

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 08:52 | 1681627's picture

This is a forum not a chat room. I am perfectly able to read your previous posts.


By the way, have you seen this?


On March 25 ACORN founder Wade Rathke, a one-time president of an SEIU local in New Orleans, announced what he described as “days of rage in ten cities around JP Morgan Chase.” Rathke said the forthcoming campaign of demonstrations, strikes and disruption will mark “the beginning of the anti-banking jihad.”



Sat, 09/17/2011 - 20:13 | 1680816 HAL 9000
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Judge, this conversation can serve no purpose any more. Goodbye.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 17:34 | 1680577 X.inf.capt
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'leaderless resistance'

i havent heard that term in 20+ years

huh, is that what these kids are doing....

thats a tough movement to break

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 16:21 | 1680384 Peter_Griffin
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Fuck these douche nozzles..


Surprised to see all the douchbagery on ZH.  The end result they seek (or what you assume they seek) may not be the same as you or I, but instead of sitting and complaining behind a computer, they are out demonstrating for what they want.  Don't get salty at others just because they have the cojones, and motivation, to go out and make themselves heard.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 16:29 | 1680413 UGrev
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Does stupid propagate via Cat-5? holy shit, bro. I'm getting salty at their DECEPTION. As I said.. they may APPEAR to have similar goal, but the appearance is marred by the underlying desire to destroy capitalism by attacking the whole of wall street. 

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 17:33 | 1680582's picture

Somebody said they saw a Ron Paul guy there so there appears to be some diversity in the crowd.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 16:47 | 1680475 wretch
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"Free" is code for "corporate rule."  Don't be a fool, peasant.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 16:54 | 1680487 UGrev
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Depends on how YOU look at it. This is how I see it:  "Exempt from fraud, abuse, government intervention (read: manipulation) and crony-ism (read: corporate rule with government/plutocracy) ".  I may be an idealist, but I am certainly no fool. 

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 23:55 | 1681255 blindman
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Constitution Day commemorates the formation and signing of the U.S. Constitution by thirty-nine brave men on September 17, 1787, recognizing all who, are born in the U.S.
or by naturalization, have become citizens.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 17:09 | 1680524 A.W.E.S.O.M.-O 4000
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Right on Tyler! Cause we all know the problem is some Grandma collecting $945 a month in Social Security.


Not the $16 Trillion given free and no questions asked to Wall Street you dumb fucking twat.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 21:31 | 1680967 Bicycle Repairman
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Cowards know they cannot throw Wall St. under the bus and they are petrified they'll get tossed.  They hope tossing grandma will appease the gods of Wall St.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 19:13 | 1680733 TwelfthVulture
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Why?  They're not bothering anyone.  The market is closed.  And it looks to me as though they are several blocks away from Wall Street.  They might want to rethink their strategy come Monday, when they will be interferring with the iron workers from Ground Zero getting breakfast and lunch from the carts in Liberty Square.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 19:41 | 1680785 Akrunner907
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And people are pinning their hopes for a revolution on Gumby and Twitter Babe?  LOL!  I don't think there is a change for "global revolution" against the bansksters.....The banksters  will go hire blackwater, or whatever they call themselves these days.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 15:31 | 1680233 ZeroPower
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Those hipsters are epic fails.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 15:46 | 1680258 GeneMarchbanks
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Yes hipsters. Hopefully they all catch influenza from each other and then shit and vomit on their Moms living room floor.

Seriously though, maybe they can get DJ Tiesto out there and get some girls gone wild type stuff going.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 16:01 | 1680324 Freddie
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LOL! Yup.  All Hipsters with trust funds.  This is a rave and leftist union parade.  If they had any guts - they would go to Goldman and deficate all ove rthe trading desk and throw CEO Lloyd Fishbein out a window and steal all of his matzos.  This is f**king sham.  

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 16:03 | 1680334 Judge Holden
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I'll ask again, where are you guys getting this "they're communists" etc from?  You don't have to be a communist to think that Wall Street is hopelessly corrupt.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 16:21 | 1680380 ZeroPower
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Theyre too stupid to even realize theyd fit under the communist camp as these are low life people who think camping out and causing ruckus will have any possible effect on whatever they are trying to achieve. 

If they got educated and perhaps tried to make a life for themselves, there wouldnt be any of this occupy WS nonsense. Dont they have enough, getting all types of benefits from the hard working taxpayers? 

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 16:28 | 1680402 Judge Holden
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Dont they have enough, getting all types of benefits from the hard working taxpayers?

Who?  The Wall Street bankers getting thier billion dollar bonuses gauranteed by the US taxpayers?  Or Joe Schmoe who got laid off 2 years ago and gets the whopping wage of 200/week while searching for a job?  Your desription could apply to either one of those.  I think you people live in some fantasy land where there isn't Great Depression-era levels of unemployment.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 16:42 | 1680460 UGrev
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The entirety of wall-street are not the enemy. ZH points out specifics on who the bad apples are repeatedly.. why you think they are ALL "destroyers of worlds" is beyond me. 

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 17:27 | 1680567 AldousHuxley
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Wall street greed is indicative of old money families who mostly inherited wealth but wants everyone else to earn it through supercompetition to kill each other through work.


analysis of Forbes 400. Not to metion Forbes family initially made money via selling opium to Chinese.


42 % Born on Home Plate ó inherited sufficient wealth to rank among the Forbes 400. This percentage is higher than that listed by Forbes for inheritors. The reason: Forbes listed as "self-made" people who actually inherited substantial sums or property and then later built that stake into a greater fortune. One example is Philip Anschutz (1997 net worth: $5.2 billion) who is listed as "self-made" even though he inherited a $500-million oil and gas field.


6 % Born on Third Base ó inherited substantial wealth in excess of $50 million or a large and prosperous company and grew this initial fortune into membership in the Forbes 400.


7 % Born on Second Base ó inherited a medium-sized business or wealth of more than $1 million or received substantial start-up capital for a business from a family member.


14 % Born on First Base ó biography indicates wealthy or upper-class background that was to our knowledge less than $1 million, or received some start-up capital from a family member. Due to the study team's conservative coding rule, it is likely that some of those listed as born on first base actually belong on second or third base.


31 % Born in the Batter's Box ó individuals and families whose parents did not have great wealth or own a business with more than a few employees.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 17:38 | 1680592 buck4free
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Your data is so 1997.

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 07:45 | 1681588 AldousHuxley
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shit got much worse since then:


  • once in a century depression covered up with Fed printing 200%
  • global crisis and not just a national crisis
  • bailout/failure of century old institutions
  • wars, wars, and more wars ....all paid with borrowed money from  China


Here is the truth: Unless your net asset is > $30M you ain't shit or free. Just another owned pawn who has to play by the rules written by the truely elite. Even President Obama has to kow tow to Rockefeller rich fucks who pay for his campaigns. David Rockefeller, now there is a true elite who write the rule of what "capitalism" is. Can you guess what his career was in? Hint: JP Morgan Chase



Sat, 09/17/2011 - 17:41 | 1680595 AldousHuxley
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Don't forget old money too fast, though, according to Born on Third Base: The Sources of Wealth of the 1997 Forbes 400. Half of those 400 individuals and 100 families listed started their business lives with at least $50 million in family wealth or by inheriting a large company. This is what most people might call a "head start."


Changing the rules to benefit asset owners at the expense of wage earners has distorted the incentives of our economy. Doing well in American society should be a function of achievement, not determined by birth. We are in danger of becoming an "inheriting society" rather than an "achieving society" ó as those who get an early ticket on the asset train pull away, with government help, from those who rely on their work for a living.


we will need to reverse a generation of public policies that have tilted the rules in favor of large asset-owners. We need to be concerned with "leveling up" remedies that build a ladder of opportunity and close the gap by lifting the income and asset floor of society. These include public policies that make work pay a living wage, give people access to higher education without lifelong indebtedness and promote asset accumulation through savings, homeownership and retirement security.

As a nation, we have been captivated by the "trickle-down" theory of treating asset-owners as the sole generators of wealth.  Democrats and Republicans joined forces to cut the capital-gains and estate taxes while raising taxes on the bottom 20 percent of households.


Trickle-down theory, especially popular among the large asset owners of our nation, implies that government should do everything to lift the burden from concentrated private capital. Yet this over-emphasis on helping private capital has overburdened and impoverished the other partners in creating wealth: workers, communities, small savers, small businesses, and the natural environment.

It is important to remember, in these billionaire boom days, that the key to great wealth in America still has more to do with what your father did for a living than your IQ, years in the workforce or level of education. Of course there are examples of mobility ó within the Forbes 400 or anywhere on the U.S. economic ladder. But these are the exceptions, not the rule. Americans do not have an equal opportunity to become wealthy.


Sat, 09/17/2011 - 18:23 | 1680665 buck4free
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How exactly do you create an "equal opportunity to become wealthy" based on factors "not determined by birth"... like one's "IQ", for example?

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 07:10 | 1681558 AldousHuxley
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here is the difference between natural born talent vs. inheritance.

If you have enough inheritance, you can pay some sucker  a tiny percentage to manage it for you to keep up with inflation.

If you have tons of talent, you still need to use it by working your butt off to achieve. Nobody in the Olympics straight up inherits gold medal just because they are as talented as their parent.

Also money is much more liquid than sheer talent.


People allow rich to keep their opulent life style because  they believe they will be rich one day. Take off the blinders and you no longer have any upside to capitalistic society where Paris Hilton has million times more power (even after whoring herself) than any doctor. And when the masses awake, they turn violent and will equalize by force even to the detriment to those who actually achieved the riches (the other third of forbes 400)







Sat, 09/17/2011 - 21:42 | 1681003 Bicycle Repairman
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"We are in danger of becoming an "inheriting society" rather than an "achieving society""

The USA is not a meritocracy, period.

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 13:29 | 1682170 TwelfthVulture
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You seem genuinely surprised by the fact that a majority of the super-rich were born rich.  I am impressed, and pleasantly surprised, by the fact that a full 1/3 (31%) of the super-rich seem to have achieved it on their own.  I am amused, but not surprised, that the word "acheive" does not appear in this or your other screeds on this topic.  In fact, you seem to bemoan the fact that many of the super-rich were GIVEN their wealth, yet your proposed solutions propound GIVING those less fortunate a larger slice of the pie.  Perhaps, your anxiety is not caused so much by the unearned GIVING of wealth as it is by the method of the GIVING of wealth.  Being given by those to whom it belongs under their terms instead of by yourself and under your terms.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 17:53 | 1680616 ZeroPower
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The jobless dont contribute to taxes besides in their discretionary and staple spending. The wealthy, however, contribute a shit load to the tax revenues of the gov, thereby ensuring survival of the jobless. 

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 19:30 | 1680773 Judge Holden
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Actually, the wealthy do everything in their power to dodge taxes.  Moreover, they've used their massive power to actively move well paying jobs overseas where they can pay 1/10th the wages.  Then all that money gets stored overseas tax-free until their assets in Congress pass a bill letting them bringing it back at 5% income tax rates.  I think you need to look at a map of income distribution over the past 100 years.

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 07:22 | 1681569 AldousHuxley
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jobless = your retired grandmother, your retired mother who gave birth to you, your children who now has to pay $100k just for bs college degee just to even have a chance at a job, your wife who has a "job" at home to take care of your infant child, your disabled veteran uncle who cannot work, etc.


And oh lastly......the likes of Paris Hilton who do not need a job.


There goes capitalism's #1 weak spot: inheritance misallocates wealth and resources to those who are simply born with it who in turn use the power from it to oppress and ridicule the same jobless but less fortunate masses.

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 08:03 | 1681607 ZeroPower
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Absolutely don't mind retired people who were once part of the cycle, or mothers who did their evolutionary duty to continue to the cycle. Again, my problem is with strong young adults who won't work because they 'dont believe' in the system, and yet will just leech off of any benefits given to them by the state.

I didnt know communism was such a popular theme here apparently. 

A common rebuttal refers to capitalism and its drawbacks. Im well aware of the weak design of wealth destribution inherent in the system, but the fact of the matter is, communism does a much poorer job of any sort of wealth creation at all. And remember, though communism preaches 'equality for all', it is never the case as inevitably there will always be a few monopolists on top of the structure. At least capitalism doesnt try and hide behind such false pretenses.

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 16:13 | 1682634 Judge Holden
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How can anyone "believe in a system" where Dick Fuld makes half a billion dollars destroying his company (while also helping to destroy the country), commits massive fraud, and then walks away with his fortune in tact and faces no investigation, let alone charges.  For many, this isn't about capitalism/communism/socialism, it's about the rule of law and justice.  How is it communist to believe that the richest 1% should not pay lower tax rates than the middle class?

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 16:26 | 1680403 Freddie
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If they are hipsters and union types then they are Obama's people.  Sadly - This is all a sham.  It is like a ravers party.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 18:38 | 1680686 theMAXILOPEZpsycho
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should've been "occupy the fed"

then we would've seen some action

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 07:28 | 1681577 AldousHuxley
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occupying something > internet chatter


zero hedge = zero balls?

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 18:43 | 1680696 Henry Hub
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Hipsters! Hipsters!   LOL  This histerical!  Maybe you mean hippies. Ha Ha Ha

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 15:32 | 1680235 Tim Knight from...
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I don't think I've ever seen a ZH post without a comment (and I'm not about to throw a puerile FIRST! out there), but I must say this occupation strikes me as a total waste of time. A Saturday, indeed. To say nothing of the irony of their video feed being saturated by ads for such products as shampoo to give me more vibrant, lustrous hair.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 15:34 | 1680242 Earl of Chiswick
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a lot of competition for the pole position (but it comes with risks)

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 15:51 | 1680286 Maniac Researcher
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...and the only bigger waste of time appears to be dickish comments snidely deriding an event informed by a fairly decent sentiment.



Sat, 09/17/2011 - 16:18 | 1680374 GeneMarchbanks
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Dickish comments? Are there any other? Especially here(ZH), queer, OHH! OOPS did it again.

Listen, back to your research you maniac. Last year Cantona asked the same question here in Europe. Nobody is on the streets. Guess what? They are too busy closing savings accounts and selling banking stock. Now if they start buying some silver maybe something happens.

This shit you're seeing... 0... zero... nada... a bunch of GenXers hoped up on Red Bull and Hollywood change-the-world awareness.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 16:29 | 1680414 Freddie
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Too true.  The GenXers and or Z'ers are also hopped up on Obama's Hopium.  Until I see them rushing into Goldman during a trading day then it is just a rave party.  I bet they all have iPhones and iGadgets too.

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 07:50 | 1681596 AldousHuxley
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For every crime, there is a motivation.

Wiping out the last gasp of hope in a young able bodied men, will turn hopelessness into a motivation to start comitting crimes.


Desparate people will start taking desparate actions. Simple rule of nature: fight or flight.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 18:16 | 1680651 Maniac Researcher
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Dickish comments? Are there any other? Especially here(ZH)...


Thank you for providing an example for my running critique of the quality and usefulness of commentary on Zero Hedge. Added bigotry/homophobia for bonus illegitimacy.

I'll be linking to this exchange the next time a ZHer gets upset about my observation regarding what, exactly, is on display here and its lack of:


useful information



analytical merit




Oh but please, fellow apologists of white supremacists, Tea Party worshipers, libertarian-cum-selfish pricks, and attention-seeking trolls - expound on the supposed "diversity" of the ZH reader. That thread is always entertaining.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 18:38 | 1680688 GeneMarchbanks
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Hey. You're welcome.

I'm sorry if you've been offended. If we were having a verbal face-to-face exchange I would gladly abuse you for pretending these children are doing something effective. I had no idea I could accomplish the same through a comment on a blog. So actually: Thank you. Blaming ZH is not going to win you votes, friend.

Long live ZH.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 20:30 | 1680841 Sabibaby
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Don't worry you old f#ck, we'll be aiming our bullets toward your anceint @ss in short order. Make no doubt, those living off SS and "retired" aka stealing from "GenX" will be dealt with.

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 21:46 | 1681016 Bicycle Repairman
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Sabibaby don't shoot grandma.  Please.

Sun, 09/18/2011 - 12:03 | 1681945 Maniac Researcher
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Improve your reading comprehension skills if you don't want to be so easily derided. Your petty insecurities and lack of analytical abilities, along with the promotion of bigotry aren't offensive to me; on the contrary, I'm simply here to point out to the non-ZH Koolaid drinkers that there is little merit (intellectual, ideological, operational or otherwise) to the opinions being offered here.

Also, the obvious troll convention of mirroring - basically repeating my argument because you have no creativity. This is the rhetorical equivalent to "I know you are, but what am I?" - so again, thanks for illustrating my point. You're welcome.


Also, equating verbosity with age is also full of stupid. I could 15 or 50 and you'd still be clueless. What did I say about the lack of analytical ability? Oh yeah, see above.

Do you need more reasons not to be taken seriously? Keep responding and we can highlight more, together.



Sat, 09/17/2011 - 19:59 | 1680797 zen0
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Divestment, Bitchez

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 17:03 | 1680294 whstlblwr
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Too bad have to register with diqus to see comments on Slope of Hope. Use to read all time, one of favorites. First financial blog I read and great sense humor.

Disagree with comment though. Good these guys doing something, next time maybe more strategic. Organize well publicized march outside Fed Reserve building on day when cameras there

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 17:48 | 1680606's picture

Rothbard brought left and right together in opposition to war in 1965. Political success is reached by finding common cause with those you might otherwise oppose.

LEFT AND RIGHT: A Journal of Libertarian Thought

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 17:24 | 1680558 Eureka Springs
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I might agree if it were scheduled for just one day, but I believe this is just the begining. Additionally i would add either way the US needs lots of practice... this will take years once we/enough of us are up to it. 

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 15:33 | 1680240 GhostTrader
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What a waste....

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 16:02 | 1680328 wretch
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Waste of what?  Seems like necessary foreplay before we get it on...

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 15:35 | 1680243 Rodent Freikorps
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Maybe their parents won't let them have the car on weekdays.


Sat, 09/17/2011 - 15:35 | 1680245 Dr. Engali
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Shouldn't that be a 200.5k?

Sat, 09/17/2011 - 15:39 | 1680252 karzai_luver
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maybe not but I am sure their parents will make sure all get bused to the polls come validation of the fraud time next.


sad to see a shithole that should be nuked and not 10 sheep will lift their ass to leave the pen.


Sat, 09/17/2011 - 15:41 | 1680256 Debt-Penitent
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What, no immolations in HD?

Without risk of inconvenience, TPTB won't give a shit.


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