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Because it beats a Saturday night lobotomy.... Right? Also, Bachmann is gone.

whole thing after the jump

Some details for those who care from BostInno:

Tonight’s GOP debate is the first since the Iowa caucuses and is set to take place just an hour from Boston at St. Anselm’s College in Manchester, New Hampshire. The debate will feature Iowa winner and former Massachusetts’ governor Mitt Romney pitted against Rick Santorum, who was a very close second in the Hawkeye State, as well as the remaining Republican candidates, including Rick Perry, Ron Paul, John Hunstman, and Newt Gingrich.  Tonight’s GOP Presidential debate is carried by ABC, who will broadcast it at 9 PM eastern time from New Hampshire.

The Republican debate will be moderated by ABC’s Diane Sawyer and George Stephanopoulous. You can watch the Republican Debate from St. Anselm’s in New Hampshire online below.

Romney won the Iowa Caucus by a count of eight votes over Santorum in the wee hours of Wednesday morning after a late-night count of Iowa caucus votes reduced Santorum’s lead from 900 votes to nothing before Romney just passed him by. Paul placed third in Iowa, with Gingrich – the presumed front-runner for the Republican nomination – coming in a distant fourth, and going on to proclaim that Romney won’t win the nomination because “he only got 25% of the Republican vote.”

Tonight’s Republican debate is sponsored by ABC News, Yahoo! and WMUR-TV in New Hampshire. It will be moderated by ABC’s Diane Sawyer and George Stephanopoulous.

 

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Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:09 | 2043050 UTICA CLUB XX PURE
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Gay.

 

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:17 | 2043064 Tsar Pointless
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I am offended by that.

As a gay man, to be compared to a Republican Presidential Debate is the ultimate insult.

Instead of watching this mess, I'm going to watch NFL football, like any red-blooded Amerikkkan male would do on a Saturday night.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:32 | 2043084 nmewn
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You do realize thats just a jock cup right?

They come in all sizes ;-)

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 00:29 | 2043344 economics1996
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Very depressing to see the complete lack of basic economic understanding by the candidates, except Ron Paul.  The best we can hope for is our local law enforcement sides with the people when it all comes crashing down.

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 00:38 | 2043375 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Depressing that they lack the understanding, or that people think that they understand economics?  There is a huge difference. 

Of course they do not understand (or they do and are told what to say by the guys with money).  The problem is that millions of Americans are supporting these fucktards.

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 01:56 | 2043563 wee-weed up
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Mr Lennon Hendrix said:

 The problem is that millions of Americans are supporting these fucktards.

 

Uhh... The problem is that after 3 years of utter and complete failure, millions of Americans are still supporting the fucktard, Obama!

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 03:06 | 2043646 I Got Worms
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Awesome handle!!

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 10:02 | 2043923 peekcrackers
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Gay is watching men run around in shinny pantyhoes ,playing childrens school yard games .Then trying to live vicariously buy putting on there favourite guys numer ..

I guess the real men in the world have to make money of some dummy.. thank god for sports fans.

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 10:31 | 2043947 GMadScientist
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We're glad the economy provides enough toilet-scrubbing gigs to support the likes of you too.

 

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 13:30 | 2044241 TruthInSunshine
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Ron Paul DESTROYS his opponents (even the "what should we think?" crowd feels it, if they can't quite identify it - they realize everyone but Ron Paul is an establishment bagman):

Highlights Ron Paul in ABC News Debate January 7th, 2012

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 07:23 | 2043796 Caggge
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Is this  the Republicans version of "The Biggest Loser?" They should just merge the debate with the show and whoever quits and disappears first is the winner.

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 02:23 | 2043602 TwelfthVulture
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A true red-blooded American male would know that NFL football is on SUNDAY afternoon.  Today is a special post-season anomally.

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 01:09 | 2043457 dizzyfingers
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Lobotomized.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:13 | 2043059 Jendrzejczyk
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Do we have to, again?

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:35 | 2043097 AldousHuxley
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watch that mormon inc. propaganda!

 

When the Romneys were wed in 1969, her family could not attend the temple wedding because only Mormons were allowed.

Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1619552,00.html#ixzz1ipX4OQRl Jewish banksters messed up the world, now it is Mormon's turn....
Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:48 | 2043120 King_of_simpletons
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Glenn Beck talking up Romney.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:59 | 2043138 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Beck is a moron

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:36 | 2043222 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Oh, sorry, I meant Beck is a schill and a moron.

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 00:09 | 2043290 TBT or not TBT
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Shilling for who?

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 00:31 | 2043355 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Everytime I have watched or listened to Beck he has made circular arguements or he flip flops on isues.  He was for the bailouts, and then he criticized the Fed.  He supports Pailn, Romney, and other main line GOPers.  He came out and said he researched FEMA camps and said there wasn't any evidence on them.  Come on, he is an obvious schill.

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 01:41 | 2043530 john39
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he is also an israel first shill.

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 10:33 | 2043950 GMadScientist
Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:37 | 2043224 smlbizman
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i just got in...all i want to know is...is ron getting more equal air time?..and thats right were on a first name bases...

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:42 | 2043237 tarsubil
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They tried to let everyone gang up on him but Ron really mopped the floor with Santorum and Gingrich. ABC cut to commercial and came back and let Santorum get a dig and quickly cut to commercial. Then no more Ron. Diane Sawyer talked like she was a fucking retard.

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 00:43 | 2043388 azusgm
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You thought so too, eh? I mentioned to my mother that Diane Sawyer seems to be on meds or maybe a bit too much wine with dinner before air time.

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 01:12 | 2043460 dizzyfingers
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Sawyer likes her drinkies.

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 02:01 | 2043571 Pike Bishop
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Beck is the genetic/logical conclusion to DownHome-style ignorance and  Neo-Consevative narcissism. When the Koch Bros take a dump, Glen Beck is what floats in the commode.

Thankfully there are varied and different pieces of shit, let's see which one they will pick.

Ron Paul is like a rose bush, surrounded by cheap fertilizer..

 

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:02 | 2043143 tarsubil
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Glenn Beck better write a book a month for the rest of the year as his star is falling so fast, he'll be back to doing the top 40 next year.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:36 | 2043099 I Got Worms
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Just tuned in. Dr. Paul is giving them hell. Every question to him has been absolutely loaded, but he just brushes them off like dandruff, and turns them right back into great points - especially his response to that tired ass line of questioning about the newsletter.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:41 | 2043107 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Ron is in the zone. He's had a beatific air about him for the past few days.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:43 | 2043109 I Got Worms
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He shoved a grenade up Newt's ass and pulled the pin on that "chickenhawk" question.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:03 | 2043145 tarsubil
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ABC cut to commercial and now it is no Ron Paul the rest of the debate.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:12 | 2043168 CrockettAlmanac.com
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My reply to Rick at that point would have been, "Some Iranians certainly dislike their government as do many Americans. But Iranians hardly want us to bomb them for their freedom."

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:18 | 2043179 tarsubil
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My reply would have been a right cross and then stomp to the groin when he's on the ground crying.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:31 | 2043198 tarsubil
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WTF? Who the fuck would vote for any of these retards besides Paul?

How are you going to fix the country's budget issues? I'm going to cut taxes! I'm only going to look at one half of the balance sheet (and make the debt worse).

Seriously?

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:45 | 2043243 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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I'm only going to look at one half of the balance sheet

The assets side that reads "gold", right?

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 00:16 | 2043311 TBT or not TBT
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Actually, lots of iranians DO want the US to bomb "them", "them" being the corrupt repressive psycho regime that has effed up the company. Few would shed tears over the mullahs and their allies explodiating.

I've actually been at a party where an Iranian just recently arrived on an H1B visa asked the weapons officer of a B1 bomber team, the ranking guy in his bomber wing stationed over there, when and if they could go ahead and bomb her country's government. But that's not the only occasion. Most Iranians are not in solidarity with the ruling regime, au contraire, very much au contraire.

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 01:14 | 2043465 dizzyfingers
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Hmmm, if that story's true, they ARE a lot like us!

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 01:43 | 2043533 john39
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oh, so they they think the US government can fix things?  good one...

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:29 | 2043206 wisefool
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That was pretty Epic. And yes, they are fading him. MSM self destruct underway. Don't most of those people have physchology degrees?

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:46 | 2043247 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Don't most of those people have physchology degrees?

Yes.  Which means they are idiots.

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 00:11 | 2043295 wisefool
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Sorry about the mispelling.  I watched the after debate punditry from the ABC crew. "Ron Paul Did not attack Romney"

How much time did you give him? Certainly not the time porportionate to 22% of the vote in the Iowa caucus. How many times did he have his hand up off camera and you did not go to him? It was laughable when they had Huntsman saying "I am the only canidate who wants to eliminate loopholes!"

Ron Paul wants to end the tax code. he should have had a chance to respond.

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 00:28 | 2043337 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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The one thing gained from all of these debates is that we are now 100% certain that every corporate news outlet is against Ron Paul.

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 02:39 | 2043616 Deo vindice
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The one thing gained from all of these debates is that we are now 100% certain that every corporate news outlet is against Ron Paul.

Yup. That leaves it to those who support him to each talk 4 or 5 more into doing the same.

"Go Ron!" is great to say, but doesn't mean much if his supporters don't "go get more" as well.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:36 | 2043220 DaveyJones
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it's a big target

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:41 | 2043236 Manthong
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So the commentators are watching twitter traffic to track social media during the debate..

I wonder when they will make note of the banter on ZH.

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 02:40 | 2043620 Deo vindice
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I gave you one for caustic humour.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:15 | 2043063 Jendrzejczyk
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Oh shit, I missed the deer in the headlights look on his face.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:22 | 2043065 Yen Cross
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 I was thinking the same thing,,,  let's discuss ( Libor , Swaps, Ois, ) Ya know? Things that matter in this " Ponzi" , WORLD!

 Come and say hello to my little Friend!

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:19 | 2043068 kito
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At least the recycled empty plastic containers in my home served some purpose, can't say the same for nitwit mitt........

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:27 | 2043077 Jendrzejczyk
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Don't I owe you an apology?

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:33 | 2043090 kito
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I accept........

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:20 | 2043069 xela2200
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Too painful to watch.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:23 | 2043072 Flakmeister
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No thanks, I'll pass... I have no desire to see santorum all over my monitor....

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:24 | 2043074 Tsar Pointless
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Dan Savage - is that you? LOL

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:28 | 2043078 Flakmeister
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Nope.... you have me confused with another savage...

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:35 | 2043093 Jendrzejczyk
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Santorum is nearly impossible to wipe off when it gets mixed with a little Stephanopoulous.

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 00:09 | 2043286 akak
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By "a little Stephanopoulous", I presume you are referring to George?

Or is there more than one little Stephanopoulous?

 

BTW, he never looks fully dressed without the elf cap.

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 02:19 | 2043595 I Got Worms
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Did anyone see when they focused on Stephanopoulus for a few seconds when he was asking a question, and the dude was fucking dripping with sweat. A couple of drops even dripped off his chin, and he had to wipe a third one that was about to roll off the tip of his nose. I wondered if he had the flu or was going through the DTs. It was weird.

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 00:09 | 2043288 memyselfiu
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LOL!

Santorum:the frothy mixture of lube and fecal matter that is sometimes the byproduct of anal sex

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 02:28 | 2043605 I Got Worms
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Did that shithead get uber-cocky this past week after his showing in Iowa, or what? He popped off to Ron Paul with several sidebar comments, one even calling him a liar. Even if someone watching was not a Dr. Paul fan, there is no way that shit could have played well. Some snot nosed, lobbyist, whiny bitch disrespecting someone 20+ years his senior who served his country in wartime, went on to practice medicine and lead as honorable a life as one could hope. If I ran into Frothy walking down the street, it would take a lot of restraint to not attempt some violence on that man.

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 01:15 | 2043466 navy62802
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baby wipes ...

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:24 | 2043073 Hulk
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We're doomed...

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:26 | 2043076 Yen Cross
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 Negative! People like you inspire me!

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:41 | 2043108 Hulk
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OK, RP is kicking ass, so perhaps we aren't doomed after all...

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:50 | 2043124 Yen Cross
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 If we got together, the senate would be passing bills. I like ya " HULK". A reasonable person you are.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:55 | 2043130 Hulk
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You had better be a woman YC...

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:10 | 2043152 Hulk
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How the hell do The Beatles play Tokyo and John end up with Yoko ??? (the only cro magnon in all of Japan)

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:16 | 2043175 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Well it all started one day in a small art gallery in London...

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:22 | 2043186 Hulk
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My bad. I place too much importance on looks. But I am starting to wonder how good YC looks in a wig and makeup...

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:28 | 2043204 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Then you better put the glass down. Now.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:46 | 2043248 Hephasteus
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You suck at being bro loved.

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 00:04 | 2043282 Hulk
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I think the use of 'suck' was inappropriate in that particular sentence...

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 00:45 | 2043397 Hephasteus
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Have you been burdened with too many inappopriate advances?

http://history.icanhascheezburger.com/2012/01/03/funny-pictures-history-...

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 00:17 | 2043319 Yen Cross
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 You so sexy! My Hulk man!  Rub a- dub, my girlfriend would LoVe Ya!  I'll be your bitch though.

  Ron Paul is and will always be! ( A FOSSIL ).   

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 01:22 | 2043476 dizzyfingers
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Yoko may be an Ainu (no snide remarks please)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ainu_people

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 03:43 | 2043686 akak
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Yoko may be an Ainu (no snide remarks please)

Ainu you were going to say that.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:28 | 2043079 indio007
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I pissed that Massachusetts hasn't done anything about Romney's record destruction. There might be a loophole for electronic records but the purchase of the hard drives was illegal. Your not allowed to pick and choose what public property  you want The state is supposed to bid it out after giving notice of sale. Plus who decided it was for sale? Who decided the contract should be cancelled at a loss to the taxpayer. Now officals can say. "I want this state property over there , here's some money, now it's mine..."

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:28 | 2043080 nmewn
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No corndogs bitchez!!!

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:32 | 2043086 Hulk
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No soup 4 you!

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:36 | 2043091 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Ron is kicking ass. ABC guy just called him a streetfighter and a bomb thrower.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:38 | 2043101 nmewn
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lol...I've been havin a ball on the fascist/nazi thread.

I think I got a wall hanger if I can land it ;-)

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:48 | 2043119 Hulk
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enough green arrows and zh will send you a lampshade...

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:11 | 2043165 nmewn
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Yeah, well, I've made enough enemies that could very well happen...lol.

How weird would that be? "Honey, turn on the light, I want to see myself" ;-)

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:15 | 2043174 Hulk
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Hopefully, you are thin skinned...

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:26 | 2043195 nmewn
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Unfortunately for some, not.

And no tats either to make for a better elitist presentation. So my hide wouldn't make for much of a conversation piece.

Pretty sure scars don't count...of those I have plenty and always looking for more ;-)

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:54 | 2043127 Yen Cross
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If we twisted the " DNA" of you two gentlemen together? We would have an answer to the origins of " LIFE"              )

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 00:20 | 2043324 Yen Cross
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 I try to be nice " Hulk" ,  You just can't contain your self?  I give you an inch , and you go " APE SHIT"!   WHY?

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 10:43 | 2043959 GMadScientist
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Must be the gamma rays talking.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:34 | 2043094 Yen Cross
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Welcome back " kosher boy" , and your input is always " respected".

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:40 | 2043105 nmewn
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I eat shellfish but I'm not selfish about it ;-)

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:57 | 2043135 Yen Cross
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 Good on Ya! I'm selfish on Lobster in Mexico. You are a better man than I am.  Half of my family is Jewish. That salty fish is getting old.  A bit of humor.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:17 | 2043177 nmewn
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Some things are better left unsaid.

But its not joooish ;-)

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:31 | 2043083 Cult_of_Reason
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Former Citigroup chairman Sandy Weill listed his 6,744-sq-ft apartment at 15 Central Park West for an astonishing $88 million.

Condominium
$88,000,000
Maintenance/CC: $8,867
Monthly real estate tax: $4,958

http://www.bhsusa.com/manhattan/upper-west-side/15-central-park-west/con...

Ekaterina Rybolovleva, 22, Drops $88M on NYC Apartment

Ms. Rybolovleva is currently studying at a US university. She plans to stay in the apartment when visiting New York. Ms. Rybolovleva was born in Russia, is a resident of Monaco and has resided in Monaco and Switzerland for the past 15 years.
http://www.inquisitr.com/170499/ekaterina-rybolovleva-sanford-weill-15-c...

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:42 | 2043098 Yen Cross
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 Hey  ? can you send an Illegal to buy some " Draino" for me?

 http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/01/05/new-law-requires-photo-id-to-buy-...

 

    No Joke!

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:46 | 2043110 Cult_of_Reason
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US bankster sold $88M condo to a Russian oligarch's 22 y.o. daughter. She dropped $88M, so she can have a place to stay when she is visiting NYC.

Why is this world so fucked up?

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:56 | 2043132 King_of_simpletons
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We have oligarch's here too. We just pretend to call them by different titles so that we don't go out of message..... to spread "freedom and democracy around the world" that is.

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 00:18 | 2043320 akak
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Opulence (and taxpayers' bailout money): I has it.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:43 | 2043241 Lord Koos
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$13,000 per sq ft is a little high, even for Manhattan.

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 01:24 | 2043488 dizzyfingers
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Two of the .0099%?

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:33 | 2043089 Biggvs
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Paul just bodyslammed that race question.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:36 | 2043100 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Ron is kicking ass!

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:11 | 2043167 Lednbrass
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Well, it was a bit silly when he went into disproportionate service and casualties during Vietnam, that just isnt reality.  There is only a little over 1% difference between 1970 population percentage and fatal casualty percentage among blacks which I suspect is more due to be in lower level positions then anything else. It isnt evidence of unfairness to blacks, thats a bit silly.

I like Paul but that was hyperbole.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:21 | 2043181 CrockettAlmanac.com
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He talked about an uneven burden on minorities in the military but I don't recall him specifically citing Vietnam in that regard.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:45 | 2043245 Lord Koos
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Something like 25% of GIs in Vietnam were black, while blacks were only 10% of the general population.  I'm sure you'll find similar minority statitistics in today's military.  The poor fight the battles for the rich.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:48 | 2043251 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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What about prison populations?

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 00:04 | 2043280 nmewn
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This goes back a long way.

Britain used Scots. Yanks used Southerners. See a pattern?

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 00:19 | 2043318 CrockettAlmanac.com
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The Scots got massacred in the taking of Fort Duquesne. But that was Major Grant's fault. He led an assault when he was supposed to be reconnoitering. Should have listen to General Forbes.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:24 | 2043190 Jim in MN
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As it happens, 'they' got it managed back down by the end of the war, so now either side of that debate can be right:

"African Americans often did supply a disproportionate number of combat troops, a high percentage of whom had voluntarily enlisted. Although they made up less than 10 percent of American men in arms and about 13 percent of the U.S. population between 1961 and 1966, they accounted for almost 20 percent of all combat-related deaths in Vietnam during that period. In 1965 alone African Americans represented almost one-fourth of the Army's killed in action. In 1968 African Americans, who made up roughly 12 percent of Army and Marine total strengths, frequently contributed half the men in front-line combat units, especially in rifle squads and fire teams. Under heavy criticism, Army and Marine commanders worked to lessen black casualties after 1966, and by the end of the conflict, African American combat deaths amounted to approximately 12 percent—more in line with national population figures. Final casualty estimates do not support the assertion that African Americans suffered disproportionate losses in Vietnam, but this in no way diminishes the fact that they bore a heavy share of the fighting burden, especially early in the conflict."

Encyclopedia of the Vietnam War: A Political, Social, and Military History. Ed. Spencer C. Tucker

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 01:02 | 2043436 azusgm
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Couldn't get those college student deferrals.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:34 | 2043092 wisefool
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Ron Paul doing very well.

Can wait till the commercial is over and they get to the 75,000 + 5,000 pages it will take to make "gay marriage" "legal".

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:40 | 2043106 Lore
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It's fascinating how similar they are (the mainline candidates), as if they share the same coach. The glibness and duplicity is so thick it's painful to watch.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:49 | 2043123 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Even without a teleprompter Huntsman sounds like he's reading from a teleprompter. All I hear is blah, blah, blah. Color him beige.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:25 | 2043191 Lore
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I swear these sleazebags are clones of each other.  Fingernails on a chalkboard.

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 00:30 | 2043349 akak
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Funny you say that --- every time I see all those GOP sleazebags (Ron Paul excepted) file in to the debate hall, I cannot help but think "Send in the clones".

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 01:27 | 2043493 dizzyfingers
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only the rare person notices.

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 11:33 | 2044020 Seer
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The parties are basically corporations.  That's how TPTB likes it.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:44 | 2043112 wretch
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They're all fucking chumps.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:44 | 2043113 Yen Cross
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 Ron Paul is a nice " Family Doctor" End of story.    " Little House on the prairie style."

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:53 | 2043126 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Rose Wilder Lane (December 5, 1886, De Smet, Dakota Territory – October 30, 1968, Danbury, Connecticut) was an American journalist, travel writer, novelist, and political theorist. She is noted (with Ayn Rand and Isabel Paterson) as one of the founding mothers of the American libertarian movement.[1]

Rose Wilder Lane was the first child of Laura Ingalls Wilder and Almanzo Wilder (and their only child to survive into adulthood).

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_Wilder_Lane

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:47 | 2043116 UTICA CLUB XX PURE
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With all the fucking problems we have why are we discussing condomes & SS Mariage all night long?????

 

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:51 | 2043125 Hulk
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Its our nature. Discuss the wallpaper and carpet when the termites are devouring the two by fours...

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:48 | 2043121 Cabreado
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"Because it beats a Saturday night lobotomy.... Right?"

Yer splittin' hairs...

 

Don't feed the machine, and it's unhealthy, too.

The Circus has a mission, it is obvious, it is sad, it is real.

Turn the damn TV off.

Remove yourself from the lies.  Save time.  

Just plan on casting a big huge vote for Ron Paul.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:55 | 2043128 Asher88
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It looks like Sawyer took took way too many hits of acid a few decades ago....

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:56 | 2043133 surf0766
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If there is a financial crisis in 2012, there will not be an election.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:04 | 2043149 sabra1
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my avatar is ready to go!

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:11 | 2043166 surf0766
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I see you are prepared. Is it that hard to see this being setup?  Didn't one politician already say to postpone elections so they can fix the problems? Are we the only ones who see this coming?

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 00:01 | 2043273 nmewn
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"Didn't one politician already say to postpone elections so they can fix the problems?"

Thats was that ignorant place holder from NC.

Ain't gonna happen. If you want to see blue and red combine to make a purple rage...let them try it. But thats not what they're after.

What they really want is pink ;-)

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 00:21 | 2043327 seek
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They're trying to set it up, but I agree it isn't going to happen. Indeed the response to postponing the elections is one of the few things I think would make TPTB truly frightened -- especially if there was a candidate polling with a significant margin.

Their mistake was holding elections during the Civil War, that established a precedent that pretty much precludes any gaming of election timing. They'll just revert to the old school vote tampering.

It'll be interesting to see if the statistics profs look at the US election results the same way as Russia and pick up on all the fraud, I know they found consistent irregularities in Diebold-based districts.

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 01:30 | 2043505 dizzyfingers
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Most politicians don't have normal concerns, 'cause most are sociopaths.

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 11:38 | 2044027 Seer
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"Didn't one politician already say to postpone elections so they can fix the problems?"

Yeah, and we KNOW that politicians NEVER say shit!

This stuff has been claimed since the beginning of time.  It's a means to rally the "opposition" (those who THINK they're the opposition, but they're really only helping prop up the string-pullers, who have everyone running from side to side of the sinking ship).

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 01:28 | 2043498 dizzyfingers
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I'm betting you'll be right!!

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 22:58 | 2043136 Hephasteus
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Am I the only one that finds it fucking hilarious that this is being piped through disney onlines cables? I mean I know this shit is Mickey Mouse but seriously.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:07 | 2043153 Yen Cross
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I like that " South Park", Jonas brothers beat down.  I saw that rerun yesterday . I laughed my ass off!

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:08 | 2043156 CrockettAlmanac.com
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Mickey Mouse wears pants but Donald Duck doesn't. I wonder what Rick Santorum thinks about that?

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:34 | 2043217 Hephasteus
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Rick Santorum and Newt Gingrich are just wing manning for Romney. They are just supposed to get enough paul punches in to help him out. Try to find somethng to throw in paul's face near the end. And they have thousands of people behind them helping out as well.

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 00:04 | 2043281 CrockettAlmanac.com
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That's all well and good but let's keep focused on what's important. There's a cartoon duck walking around with his ass hanging out. This country and civilization itself are based on the wearing of pants. There ought to be a law...

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 02:40 | 2043617 I Got Worms
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I work for an electric utility in Texas, and our lobbying group issued a statement the other day regarding Rick Perry (since he appoints our Public Utilty Commissioners, they've been following his movements in the primary closely, wondering if he'll still be in Texas in a year). The scuttlebutt in the lateest report is that Perry knows he's toast, but he's running interference for Romney right now to split the Republican-clone vote (everyone on the stage but Dr. Paul). In return, Perry will endorse the Stormin' Morman, and be offered a cabinet position in the Romney Admin.

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 11:41 | 2044036 Seer
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It's all like incest.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:04 | 2043148 Yen Cross
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 It's called prudent, positioning. 

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:06 | 2043151 Awakened Sheeple
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Santorum you piece of shit

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:11 | 2043163 tarsubil
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What a total piece of shit. Just the typical smug shit eating grin politician who loves the power of Washington. What a total fucking cocksucker.

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 00:26 | 2043334 Yen Cross
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 I can't stop laughing!

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 11:42 | 2044039 Seer
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"Shit" can be used as fertilizer.  He's got no such redeeming value!

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:09 | 2043157 UTICA CLUB XX PURE
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Santorum is a fucking cheese dick!

 

Sun, 01/08/2012 - 00:44 | 2043356 akak
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And a hysterically warmongering, gay-bashing, Muslim-hating cheese dick at that!

He gets so riled-up when the topic turns to war and Muslims, he turns ..... positively frothy.

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:13 | 2043170 fuu
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Is the blonde woman asking the questions loaded?

Sat, 01/07/2012 - 23:25 | 2043192 Pants McPants
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Yes!  I was thinking the same thing - it is painful to listen to her (and Huntsman)

George Stephanvaleodouvouaosdovous is his usual smamry prickish self tonight too.  Can't stand that guy.

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