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"We Are Off The 2012 Lows" By About 10 Points

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While the Dow Jones Industrial Average crossed into negative territory for the year on Friday, E-Mini and the S&P are still "off the lows" of the year (low print was 1259.75 on January 5th). However, if the rapid sell off in the premarket session accelerates, it is possible that we will wipe out all of the 2012 gains in hours if not minutes: December 30, 2011 close was 1252.50. We are now 10 just points higher and closing fast.

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Sun, 06/03/2012 - 19:36 | 2490197 CvlDobd
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Tyler! SHHHH! The PPT will be in there soon to buy up the weakness to discredit ZH, much like they slammed Silver during Dr. Paul v. Bernanke earlier this year.

Also that one dude should be happy because there are no bubbles on the right side of the chart. I wanna see us under 2009 lows!

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 19:41 | 2490216 LawsofPhysics
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Maybe, but with current physical demand around the world being what it is, it will be difficult to keep the commodity complex from blowing up if they do so.  Just remember, if commodites for delivery stop crossing boarders, troops will, then this deflationary period will end in a hurry.  Same as it ever was.

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 19:46 | 2490230 CvlDobd
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Agreed my friend.

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 19:50 | 2490239 Colombian Gringo
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Unless the Central Banksters start printing in a big hurry, the market will go down very hard this coming week.

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 19:54 | 2490248 theTribster
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All they have to do is hint at it, that's generally enough for a few days...

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 20:12 | 2490296 CrashisOptimistic
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Merkel was quoted today saying a really ominous thing.

"UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES will I agree to Eurobonds."

That left zero room for rumors to nibble away.  Pretty damn hard core.

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 21:35 | 2490504 DeadFred
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Of course politicians have been known to lie.

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 22:13 | 2490591 azzhatter
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Frau Merkel should avoid hot tubs. TPTB can be very persuasive

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 01:05 | 2490860 hedgehog9999
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This means Eurobonds is a done deal!!!!

Reminds me of an infamous Mexican President many years ago who one day said  " como Perro por mi Peso" indicating he likes to protect his Peso the way a dog protects his bone, the next morning he devalued the currency 100%. They always say the opposite of what they do...................

He sucked the life out of the country, that's what he did, but that's another issue.....

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 02:44 | 2490921 fourchan
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yes we can?

 

 

more like what me worry?  

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 07:07 | 2491074 jeff montanye
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he devalued the peso 100%?  you know that means to zero, right?  link?

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 20:56 | 2490360 Soul Train
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... but wait, there's more.

http://topics.bloomberg.com/lael-brainard/_/slideshow/?category=%2Fnews%2Fhome%2Ftopic&selected_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bloomberg.com%2Fapps%2Fdata%3Fiid%3DipnLwDWzJD84%26pid%3Davimage&slideshow_id=434542

Obama has just dispatched Ms. Lael Brainard to lead the US Treasury Dept Washington DC effort,  into the EEC for high level meetings early this week. She is on an extensive tour beginning in Brussels to make it happen. Ms Brainard is flying Business Class right now out of Dulles Airport to Brussels as I type !

Ms Brainard is said to have the complete confidence of Mr Timmy Geithner to assess the situation and take action to review and report.

Longs have yet another excuse to mortgage the farm, and load up at the 200sma level! </sarc>

In all her radiant brilliance, here's a recent scripted quote from her majesty the Undersecretary of Treasury, International Affairs:

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Mon, 06/04/2012 - 00:07 | 2490793 CompassionateFascist
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Shoulda sent Blythe. She'd master the situation.

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 19:54 | 2490249 sunaJ
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Assignment this week:

 

Get into an argument/fight with a bank teller as you try to cash a check to yourself on a closed account that does not belong to that bank.  Insist that you just want equal treatment under the constitution.  The call will go out to the police as a "fraud in-progress." 

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 19:48 | 2490232 Michael
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How About This? POLICE CHANGE SIDES!

German police officers escort an anti-crony capitalism protest march with some 20,000 people in Frankfurt, Germany, Saturday, May 19, 2012. Protesters peacefully filled the city center of continental Europe's biggest financial hub in their protest against the dominance of banks and what they perceive to be untamed capitalism, Frankfurt police spokesman Ruediger Regis said. The protest group calling itself Blockupy has called for blocking the access to the European Central Bank, which is located in Frankfurt's business district. (AP Photo/Michael Probst)

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/67235-how-about-this-police-change-sides

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 19:57 | 2490254 theTribster
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That's really, really cool to see. I mean really cool, the first thing about this whole fucked up fiasco that has brought a smile to my face - good for you finding that. +1

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 19:59 | 2490260 fonzannoon
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"German police officers escort an anti-capitalism protest march"

?

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 20:02 | 2490267 fonzannoon
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I did not see "crony" in the article. Maybe I missed it.

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 20:10 | 2490291 Michael
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"Crony" goes well with "untamed" in the article so I fixed it for them.

How about this too;

Tea Party and Occupy activists rub shoulders at Bilderberg protest

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jun/02/bilderberg-virginia-tea-party-occupy

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 21:07 | 2490456 LetThemEatRand
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The worst fear of the oligarchs is that their divide and conquer strategy stops working.  Occupy and Tea Party have a common enemy.  They disagree about the solution, but how cool would it be if we all could debate the correct solution and have real elections between people who actually want to help the country.  I'll vote for someone I disagree with all day long if they truly want to do what is best for the citizens in their own mind, over someone who just wants to serve the oligarchs (almost all of our current national leaders fall into the latter category).

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 21:24 | 2490478 mtomato2
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Spoken, almost, as a  true libertarian.

 

You're slipping.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 01:51 | 2490902 dolly madison
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Awesome links Michael.  They are really cheering me up.

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 02:16 | 2490910 The Onion Of Tw...
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David Icke??? You're quoting David Icke???

 

Icke was a former sports commentator on the BBC who once turned up on a chat show in a purple shell suit claiming to be the son of God, or an emissary from the planet Tharg, or some such thing. He has been a laughing stock in the UK for 20 years and his name is used as a synonym for whacko.

 

Anything that is on the David Icke website is conspiracy theory with extra whipped cream and a cherry on the top.

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 19:43 | 2490219 franzpick
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With the 5% equity downside my screens are suggesting, the PPT may be about to experience some disabling performance anxiety.

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 22:51 | 2490660 DeadFred
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It stopped at support so it may need some more gut wrenching news to drop through. It does seem that type of news has been rather common recently.

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 20:15 | 2490310 IMA5U
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Le Barron's is already priming the pump for that

 

http://online.barrons.com/article/SB500014240531119039643045774223020446...

Mon, 06/04/2012 - 00:20 | 2490821 oldman
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Cvl,

Look at that chart --------------------not even the Fed is dumb enough to step in front of that.

This is pretty exciting                   om

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 19:41 | 2490214 scatterbrains
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Interesting that both a Full Moon and the  "Passage of Venus" will occur on 5 June...

"The next transit of Venus will occur on 5 and 6 June 2012, and will be the last Venus transit this century; the prior transit took place on 8 June 2004. The previous pair of transits were in December 1874 and December 1882. After 2012, the next transits of Venus will be in December 2117 and December 2125."

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 19:43 | 2490220 Aductor
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Sorry, is this the astrology convention?

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 19:50 | 2490245 CvlDobd
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Although I don't know how to trade on it, some of the solar/lunar analysis is VERY interesting! Look up Chris Carolan's website and his book Spiral Calendar. Recently he has been all over the link between FED/ECB balance sheets and the value of equity/commodity markets. It's not for everyone but it is a fun alternative form of analysis. You can have a certain fundamental or technical outlook and you are thinking of taking a position in. It is nice to have Chris say something along the lines of a spiral calendar turning point is at hand in market XYZ. Gives you a little extra confidence on your trade. For those who still trade anyway.

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 19:56 | 2490253 A Lunatic
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I'll definitely keep that in mind, just in case I run out of chicken entrails.................

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 20:03 | 2490270 CvlDobd
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Just an alternative perspective. I've seen Tyler retweet Chris so it appears there is some mutual respect between the two parties.

Long chicken entrails.

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 22:20 | 2490608 UP Forester
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Just make sure you use hard-wired comms June 5-7, as the solar particles from the massive coronal hole are going to be playing havoc with satellite links during this period.

Full moon + solar particles + Venusian transit = lots of rain, possible large earthquakes....

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 22:28 | 2490624 CvlDobd
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Sounds bullish. I'm gonna go buy some ES. BRB

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 19:59 | 2490261 LeBalance
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yes, i guess discussing energy set-up and overriding factors in true circumstances of life is above your envelope of understanding at this point.  But I appreciate SB's information presented above.

did you comment vigorously on all the "my sister earns $$ per hour ... posts?

this is a kind hint about astrology.

 

you might want to look into it.

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 19:49 | 2490234 A Lunatic
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Do NOT attempt to view this event with the naked eye. Believe it or not the sun will do more damage to your eyes than staring at charts like the one above. Anybody seen my rose colored welders goggles??

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 19:50 | 2490243 scatterbrains
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Some additional thoughts on it's meaning... or not:

http://www.worldgathering2012.com/venus-calling

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 20:42 | 2490377 Race Car Driver
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From your link:

"It is like a vulva of time that is opening up so the newborn child can come into this world."

 

Just sayin'.

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 20:39 | 2490373 El Oregonian
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How transit-dental...

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 19:44 | 2490223 ziggy59
Sun, 06/03/2012 - 19:45 | 2490225 machineh
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Wake me up when it's time to short Treasuries.

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 19:48 | 2490235 gatorengineer
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Wakie wakie, its time to short the treasuries, maybe not today but by the end of the week a tradeable bottom will be in....

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 20:03 | 2490272 Conrad Murray
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machineh is now known as Rip Van Winkle

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 19:47 | 2490231 besnook
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qe n+1 is near.

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 19:48 | 2490233 mammoth mo
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Futures near negative 100 and dropping...

 

Printing presses now on alert.

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 20:05 | 2490278 CrashisOptimistic
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TD's phrasing was careful, but the usual yardstick is close Dec 31, 2011, not low of January.

Dec 31, 2011 closed at 1257, a fraction under Dec 31, 2010, also 1257.  2011 was a DOWN year (by that fraction).  We forget that often because of the hype about the LTRO fueled surge post October and out to April.  Despite that surge, 2011 was still down.

Let's hope 2012 is, too.

 

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 19:49 | 2490238 gatorengineer
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Futures will be green by the morning........  Stick save comming, from the Goldman Suchs euro re-union....

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 20:08 | 2490285 CrashisOptimistic
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It's going to be difficult

Merkel was quoted today saying a really ominous thing.

"UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES will I agree to Eurobonds."

That left zero room for rumors to nibble away.  Pretty damn hard core.

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 20:12 | 2490295 johngaltfla
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Probably will be green on QE ? because there's only $4.4 trillion in equity derivatives to worry about in Euroland and the U.S.

Sun, 06/03/2012 - 19:55 | 2490251 fonzannoon
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Gold down slightly. I kind of half expected it to be up another 100 bucks.

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