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This Is What 670 Million People Without Power Look Like: Pictures From A Blacked Out India

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First thing today we reported that India just suffered what may have been the biggest blackout in history, after half of the country's population of 1.2 billion, or just under 700 million was without power, as the electric grid of more than a dozen states suffered an epic collapse. Below we shares some pictures courtesy of Times of India giving some sense of what it means for two Americas worth of people to live without electricity indefinitely. Of note: the calm, peace and order despite the epic traffic jams and crowds. One wonders what would happen in the US if the entire country was without electrcity for even just one hour. Finally, one wonders what the impact to the Indian, Asian, and Global economy will be as a result of the complete halt that at least half of India - one of the world's core marginal economies - has ground to do.


India’s northwestern boundary with neighboring Pakistan is so brightly lit that the thin orange line tracing its path can be seen from space. Photo: NASA/EO

A road is packed in heavy traffics following power outage and rains in the central part of New Delhi, India, Tuesday, July 31, 2012. India's energy crisis spread over half the country Tuesday when both its eastern and northern electricity grids collapsed, leaving 600 million people without power in one of the world's biggest-ever blackouts. Traffic lights went out across New Delhi.

Heavy traffic moves along a busy road as it rains during a power-cut at the toll-gates at Gurgaon on the outskirts of New Delhi July 31, 2012. Grid failure hit India for a second day on Tuesday, cutting power to hundreds of millions of people in the populous northern and eastern states including the capital Delhi and major cities such as Kolkata.

Commuters wait for buses outside a Metro station after Delhi Metro rail services were disrupted following power outage in New Delhi, India, Tuesday, July 31, 2012. India's energy crisis cascaded over half the country Tuesday when three of its regional grids collapsed, leaving more than 600 million people without government-supplied electricity in one of the world's biggest-ever blackouts.

Commuters wait for buses outside a Metro station after Delhi Metro rail services were disrupted following power outage in New Delhi, India, Tuesday, July 31, 2012. A massive blackout hit northern and eastern India on Tuesday afternoon, leaving 600 million people without electricity in one of the world's most widespread power failures. The outage came just a day after India's northern power grid collapsed for several hours leaving cities and villages across eight states powerless.

Commuters wait in line at a Metro station after Delhi Metro rail services were disrupted following power outage in New Delhi, India, Tuesday, July 31, 2012. India's energy crisis cascaded over half the country Tuesday when three of its regional grids collapsed, leaving more than 600 million people without government-supplied electricity in one of the world's biggest-ever blackouts. The city's Metro rail system, which serves about 1.8 million people a day, immediately shut down for the second day in a row.

Passengers sit on a platform for their train to arrive as they wait for electricity to be restored at a railway station in New Delhi July 31, 2012. Grid failure hit India for a second day on Tuesday, cutting power to hundreds of millions of people in the populous northern and eastern states including the capital Delhi and major cities such as Kolkata.

Passengers rest on a platform for their train to arrive as they wait for electricity to be restored at a railway station in New Delhi July 31, 2012. Grid failure hit India for a second day on Tuesday, cutting power to hundreds of millions of people in the populous northern and eastern states including the capital Delhi and major cities such as Kolkata.

A passenger looks through the window of a train as he waits for electricity to be restored at a railway station in New Delhi July 31, 2012. Grid failure hit India for a second day on Tuesday, cutting power to hundreds of millions of people in the populous northern and eastern states including the capital Delhi and major cities such as Kolkata.

Commuters crowd a busy road outside a Metro station after Delhi Metro rail services were disrupted following power outage in New Delhi, India, Tuesday, July 31, 2012. Indian officials say the nation's northern and eastern power grids have failed, leaving about half the country without power. The collapse of the grids Tuesday afternoon came a day after the northern grid failed and left eight states without power for much of the day.

Indian stranded passengers wait on a platform and some of them on rail tracks for the train services to resume following a power outage at Sealdah station in Kolkata, India, Tuesday, July 31, 2012. India's energy crisis cascaded over half the country Tuesday when three of its regional grids collapsed, leaving 620 million people without government-supplied electricity for several hours in, by far, the world's biggest-ever blackout. Hundreds of trains stalled across the country and traffic lights went out, causing widespread traffic jams in New Delhi.

Stranded passengers wait on a railway tracks for the train services to resume following a power outage at Sealdah station in Kolkata, India, Tuesday, July 31, 2012. India's energy crisis cascaded over half the country Tuesday when three of its regional grids collapsed, leaving 620 million people without government-supplied electricity for several hours in, by far, the world's biggest-ever blackout. Hundreds of trains stalled across the country and traffic lights went out, causing widespread traffic jams in New Delhi.

Passengers sit in a train as they wait for power to get restore, at a railway station, in New Delhi, India, Monday, July 30, 2012. A major power outage has struck northern India, plunging cities into darkness and stranding hundreds of thousands of commuters. Trains across eight northern Indian states and metro services in New Delhi were affected by the outage that struck at about 2:30 a.m. local time.

Commuters wait for a metro train, in New Delhi, India, Monday, July 30, 2012. Northern India's power grid crashed Monday, halting hundreds of trains, forcing hospitals and airports to use backup generators and leaving 370 million people - more than the population of the United States and Canada combined - sweltering in the summer heat.

Muslim girls study in the light of candles inside a madrasa or religious school during power-cut in Noida on the outskirts of New Delhi July 30, 2012. Grid failure left more than 300 million people without power in New Delhi and much of northern India for hours on Monday in the worst blackout for more than a decade, highlighting chronic infrastructure woes holding back Asia's third-largest economy.

 


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Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:01 | Link to Comment bob_dabolina
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Looks at a lot like L.A on a good day.

Are we sure those first two pictures aren't the 405?

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:07 | Link to Comment Death and Gravity
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To the reader: If you have a shred of good sense, YOU will prepare for this eventuality, where you happen to live.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:23 | Link to Comment camaro68ss
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The population that’s out of power in India equals all the united states twice over!!

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:36 | Link to Comment Killtruck
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WTF? These people could take lesson from the Amish! They've been out of power for like, 100 years.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:49 | Link to Comment Paul Atreides
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This was caused by an M6-class solar flare which erupted from the active sunspot AR1532 on Saturday July 28th.

Get more info here.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:56 | Link to Comment The Big Ching-aso
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This is gonna be one hell of an Indian Slummer.

 

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:01 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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will somebody get thru to ORI & tell him to start pedaling faster?

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:31 | Link to Comment Uncle Remus
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that's brutal

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 15:24 | Link to Comment redpill
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I see a lot of Tatas!

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 20:27 | Link to Comment UP Forester
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"Hey!  What does this button do?"

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 15:37 | Link to Comment Nikao7
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lmao

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 19:22 | Link to Comment Element
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"They should have larger families"  - Pope

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:01 | Link to Comment T-roll
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Thanks for the link.  I've been following some of these solar flares as the sun has been active this year.  I'm completely puzzled as to why the MSM doesn't do a better job of reporting when these things erupt.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:11 | Link to Comment Paul Atreides
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You're welcome. The MSM is not your friend, it is their job to control you not inform you.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:29 | Link to Comment smiler03
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You're spouting complete bullshit. An M class flare dealing a glancing blow to the planet wouldn't knock out a single light bulb. It might, just might, make auroras a bit brighter.

 

http://spaceweather.com/

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 15:10 | Link to Comment Paul Atreides
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Actually it's harder to knock out a light bulb or an electronic circuit then a power grid in terms of solar flare strength. The transmission lines span thousands of miles acting as antenna and an amplifier for the incoming energy where as a light bulb has a fillament a couple inches in length. When all that energy on that one expansive power line hits a single circuit breaker...POP and out go the lights.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 19:43 | Link to Comment SimplePrinciple
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The solar flare's time of arrival is said to be July 31.  This outage started before that.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 20:30 | Link to Comment UP Forester
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Yeah, exactly.  We all know that estimates by scientists are always correct, what with San Francisco currently doing it's impression of Atlantis....

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 09:11 | Link to Comment short-swap
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The term 'glancing blow' is very subjective for a supposedly scientific website, which I had already seen before reading your post. Yes, the M classification is of lesser magnitude but your statement that it wouldn't knock out a lightbulb is a bit of a stretch as well.

Power outages aside, one has to wonder the extent to which these energy blasts from the sun are affecting the climate.... I would venture to guess a bit more than the exhaust pipes of American SUV's.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:58 | Link to Comment Landrew
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I met these guys working on Tololo. Great guys who now rely on funding from U.S. Air Force as their only hope to stay on. Hydrogen Alpha spectrum photospherehttp://halpha.nso.edu/movie_C.html 

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 16:02 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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And they don't even do that well. "how could you destroy my evil loveliness!"

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:07 | Link to Comment BeetleBailey
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"I'm completely puzzled as to why the MSM doesn't do a better job of reporting when these things erupt."

 

LOL....LMAO...good one.

Add this to the HUGE FUCKING LIST of things the MSM doesn't report on.

In addition, this would muddy the waters on their asinine global warm/global cool....er climate change fucking LIE.

Moreover, none of these morons know jack shit when it comes to ............just about.....ANYTHING......

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:12 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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easy answer... It wasn't on the teleprompter...

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 17:45 | Link to Comment Jack Napier
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And I'm Ron Burgundy. Go uNF yourself, San Diego.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:13 | Link to Comment The Big Ching-aso
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This is nuthin.  If U wanna see real blackouts go to Compton, Watts or Inglewood.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:32 | Link to Comment Uncle Remus
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dats rayciss

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:47 | Link to Comment ncdirtdigger
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Lemme ax you dis, you be belienin in miffs?

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:56 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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Wasn't that a hit song by 'JOURNEY'?... "Don't Stop Belienin"

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 15:22 | Link to Comment Uncle Remus
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mudshark

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 15:09 | Link to Comment putaipan
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we'll be knockin' the little jockies off the rich peoples lawwwwns......

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 16:14 | Link to Comment Citxmech
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Just keep your nose
To the grindstone they say
Will that redeem us, Uncle Reemus?

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 16:57 | Link to Comment Uncle Remus
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Speakin' o miffs...

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:49 | Link to Comment GeezerGeek
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How many Americans read or watch the MSM any longer? As long as the EBT cards can be swiped, who cares? Which makes me wonder what it would be like if we had a similar failure and EBT cards no longer worked.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 15:29 | Link to Comment Renewable Life
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Could be an smal EMP experiment, from India's friends to the north!!!  

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 15:34 | Link to Comment knukles
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Scalar......

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 17:47 | Link to Comment Jack Napier
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HAARP doing a little target practice?

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 19:38 | Link to Comment Element
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Yessss! Of course!  That's what it must be!  An imaginary non-existent non-weapon has done it!

The bastards!

Because blackouts never occur due to other factors.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 17:25 | Link to Comment Quantum Nucleonics
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Because they happen all the time, and really are not news.  Sunspot activity is actually running below average compared to where it normally be at this point in the solar cycle.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 16:51 | Link to Comment Reptil
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how is the state of the nuclear plants? is my first thought

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 17:41 | Link to Comment sullymandias
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That should be about 10 nuclear plants on backup systems at the moment, if I'm not mistaken.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 17:06 | Link to Comment Hobbleknee
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If that was the case, en entire hemisphere would be without power.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 17:10 | Link to Comment geewhiz190
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have you seen the latest issue of National Geographic?  this is exactly what the article more or less predicted-with 2013 being the peak of the cycle.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 17:13 | Link to Comment Quantum Nucleonics
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No it wasn't!  M class events are not normally associated with disruptive effects.  It normally takes an X-class event to cause these sorts of effects.

It was caused by India drinking the global warming kool aid, shutting down coal mining, and failing to build out their power infrastructure to match their energy consumption.  They are truly asleep at the switch.  Modern grids allow rolling brown outs to prevent this sort of total system collapse.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 19:31 | Link to Comment Element
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Paul Atreides  "This was caused by an M6-class solar flare which erupted from the active sunspot AR1532 on Saturday July 28th.

Get more info here.

Your link says:

"This is a slow-moving CME," astronomer Tony Phillips wrote on Spaceweather.com. "The cloud's low speed (382 km/s estimated) combined with its glancing trajectory suggests a weak impact is in the offing. Nevertheless, polar geomagnetic storms are possible when the cloud arrives."

 

Are solar flares prejudiced only against Indians?  Not the Chinese too?

Or perhaps it's not due to a solar flare at all.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 15:24 | Link to Comment Race Car Driver
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We could all take some lessons from the Amish.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:42 | Link to Comment FlyoverCountryS...
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Anyine notice how many websites are down today? (India-based servers or IT staff)

Anyone notice how many sites like Twitter, Yahoo, etc are DEAD SLOW today?

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:52 | Link to Comment salvadordaly
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Thought I was having problems with Outlook, now it's coming together. My yahoo account can not get mail in outlook. Phone is not able to retrieve mail either.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:00 | Link to Comment The Big Ching-aso
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If this had happened in L.A. people by now would be wearing ass chaps & sporting mohawks.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:24 | Link to Comment mkhs
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They don't do that now?

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:33 | Link to Comment Uncle Remus
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yippie ki-yay

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 17:27 | Link to Comment Quantum Nucleonics
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Guess that means the power has been out in West Hollywood for a couple decades now.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:50 | Link to Comment Son of Loki
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Who stole my cow !

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:01 | Link to Comment Paul Atreides
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Death and Gravity is open minded enough to warn people to prepare for a grid down situation but still beleives and adamantly supports(40+ posts on one article) the government 911 story?

Peeps need to watch out for these trolling pieces of shit, one moment they pretend to be your friend and guide you with some good advice, the next they are trying to control your critical thinking with bullshit strawman posts, planting seeds of doubt and divide and conquer tactics.

Stay alert people, know that these comments (and most other media commentary) are infested with paid trolls like D&G. Read the articles absorb the information and make your own conclusions but be weary of what you read in the comments and who is saying it.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:29 | Link to Comment smiler03
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It's rather ironic that you're trolling yourself.

Repeat, an M class solar flare would not knock out any electrical grid. They very rarely even affect satellites and they might enhance arouras.

So please don't post bullshit that the ZH folk will gullibly believe in. Mind you, that's a tall order in it's own right.

 

http://spaceweather.com/

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:30 | Link to Comment Paul Atreides
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FYI not trolling, providing information, insight and a logical conclusion that you may or may not chose to further research. You could say it was merely coincidince that the exact day the pulse was to hit earth most of India's power grid goes down but I choose to see it as the most logical explanation.

Perhaps I should have used different wording insted of "was/is" I should have said "likely" or "high probability" and for that I apologize. Everything else I said about D&G and troll shit is spot on.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:37 | Link to Comment smiler03
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Actually Paul I would be interested to know how the grid also went down the day before the minor flare. Was the grid having a practise in advance?

No apology needed, I apologise. 

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:59 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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The same way that 'Building 7' went down 20 minutes AFTER the BBC reported it...

Science & Technology are AMAZING these days...

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 15:04 | Link to Comment Landrew
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I think you will ike this! A bit addicting though. 

 http://halpha.nso.edu/movie_C.html 

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 20:58 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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At first I hated it...

But then after 5 tabs of purple microdot it was fucking intense, dude... :-)

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 19:46 | Link to Comment Element
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" ... but I choose to see it as the most logical explanation."

 

After having fully examined all available evidence, and rationally excluded all other more prosaic possibilities, ... of course.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:33 | Link to Comment mtomato2
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You're kind of a little bit of a dick yourself, aren't you?

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:44 | Link to Comment EnglishMajor
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Part of the real 9/11 story just died in retaliation for the bombing that killed all the Syrian generals.  Sorry for your loss, CIA and Mossad...

End of An Era: Bandar Bush Is Dead, Reports Voltaire Network

http://disquietreservations.blogspot.com/2012/07/end-of-era-bandar-bush-is-dead-reports.html

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:54 | Link to Comment FeralSerf
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Notably, a huge disproportionate share of these 9/11 disinformation trolls are Jooze working for the ADL or some other organization that owes its allegience to Israel.  One can't help but wonder why they are so interested in subverting the truth, eh?  Maybe they had something to do with it?

The lady doth protest too much!

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 18:25 | Link to Comment 4horse
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yes.

that dog that didn't bark extrapolation itself suggests self-interest, if not incrimination: msm gatekeeper CERBERUS gagging its own 3headed gorgon

 

no inquiry. natural curiousity. no entry

 

STOP*right there motherfucker

 

ffreeze

 

 

*simon sez gagged garfunkel no telefunken the sounds of silence

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:58 | Link to Comment dudebum
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Solar panels or a propane generator starting to look like a pretty dood investment about now.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:26 | Link to Comment The Big Ching-aso
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The Indian psyche must be amazingly resilient to severe adversity in the face of normalcy.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:12 | Link to Comment Nobody For President
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Affirmative - I've been off the grid for 40 years, and finally have it together with an Outback system and 12 big-ass solar panels in the south yard (plus a propane fired generator for winter months - still hooked to the outside some, but I can make it in a pinch.)

I don't even know when the local grid goes down in the winter (which it always does every big storm). 

Note - it ain't easy, it takes real work to develop your own alternate power system, and money. But to me, it is an investment that makes sense. I paid for my kids to be the first in their sub-division in the suburbs to get 20K worth of panels on their roof - now their neighbors are coming over to watch their meter run backwards in the summer when electric bill skyrocket due to air conditioning. This summer, two more homes in the subdivision are getting panels.

Start with the best cost/benefit ratio solar: solar heated water. Do it right, and no electric pumps need be involved. I have six months a year of solar heated water, and it is realtively maintenance free, once set up - always a consideration on a homestead. Solar electric, all the news, is harder, but doable. Do the water first, great payback ratio.

It can be done, ZHers - if you don't know where to invest, always invest in yourself. Babes, booze, bullets, bullion, and get off the grid.

You will be glad you did.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 15:00 | Link to Comment Rincewind
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You can actually start really small. Get a single solar panel ($300), a small grid tie inverter ($100) may be a few cables (depends on where the panel will be) and your good to go saving on your bill when the grid is up.

Then get a stand alone inverter for outages ($100), which requires a battery. If you don't want to buy a battery sitting around, you can always use your car battery in emergencies.

You can add to this as you go along.

That is how I started and added over time. I get about a 5% return on my investment. Much better investment than anything else these days.

A single panel is good enough to power your laptop, but not enough for your average fridge.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 15:05 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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The propane generator I had blew the engine block the first time I used it... (so now I'm back to gasoline ~ which is not my preferred choice, but handy nonetheless)...

Any tips on a reliable propane generator (I'm not looking large, just, say, the 7,000W range) would be appreciated...

~~~

@Rincewind ~ What's your take on forklift batteries as storage?

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 15:12 | Link to Comment Rincewind
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Forklift batteries will do. But you need to make sure, you get the voltage right.

Planning a big job?

I go with small isolated components, so if one thing fails, it does not take down my whole system. So I prefer many batteries over one big one, but it seems you have large things to power.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 15:46 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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No... not really...

I actually like your idea of isolated components (have a few of them working already)... I intuitively think that's the way to go (but welcome further input on the subject)... IOW~ scrap the 'universal' type system in favor of multiple smaller systems (which, as a trade off, offer flexibility & redundancy)... I like that approach...

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:23 | Link to Comment world_debt_slave
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yep, I moved out of Cali a week ago and getting started in my new state.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 17:21 | Link to Comment Lednbrass
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Feeling any culture shock? (assuming you didn't move to someplace like New England)

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:27 | Link to Comment Praetorian Guard
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In reality, there is only so much you can do. Game theory, and models run by some of the brightest minds, have indicated that if the SHTF close to 85% of the populace die. Disease, no food, no water, no medicine, elderly, the young, the weak, etc. Sad but true. Hell look at these two articles:

http://moneymorning.com/ob/economist-richard-duncan-civilization-may-not-survive-death-spiral/

http://www.newjerseynewsroom.com/economy/august-1-debt-crisis-a-reality-says-financial-expert

Very scary times, very scary... and I don't think god will be anywhere to lend a hand when this shit goes down, much to the chagrin of the bible thumpers...

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:54 | Link to Comment GeezerGeek
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Sometimes it's good to be an Incan up high in the Andes.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 16:25 | Link to Comment Citxmech
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First thing I thought of when I heard this story was the global rolling blackouts predicted by Duncan in his Olduvai Theory.  For those that aren't familier - the premise is kind of a Malthusian take on peak energy per capita and the transitory nature of "civilization."  See e.g.:  http://www.jayhanson.us/page224.htm

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:39 | Link to Comment johnQpublic
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how many nuclear power plants does india have and how are they running their backup power supplies right now?

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 16:38 | Link to Comment krispkritter
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The Energizer Cow

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 16:11 | Link to Comment bobola
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Agreed.  Its called Bike Club. 

When the trains stop running and the cars jam the roads a bike will be the best transport...

 

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 17:39 | Link to Comment A Nanny Moose
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Who is better prepared to have nothing? The peasant who walks barefoot among the cacti and lizards, or the coach bag toting, Ford Extinction driving soccer mom in heals who would die without a hair dryer?

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:13 | Link to Comment Hedgetard55
Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:39 | Link to Comment Gringo Viejo
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Great link Hedge, thanks. I live in the Ca. burbs, about midway between the coast and the agri-interior. I'm stuck here because the wife won't leave and in our 60s, I won't abandon the old girl. So, I've fortified and prepped to the best of my ability. I fully expect the barbarian horde to descend upon us eventually when things "go south". When it comes, I'll defend my wife and home, go down swinging and hopefully, take one or more pieces of shit with me.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:47 | Link to Comment Hedgetard55
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That's all you can do, amigo, more than one is just gravy.  :~)

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:50 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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Great article... I started preaching the high likelihood of those scenarios to people even long before the HOPE & CHANGE years...

All you get is blank stares... All you STILL get are blank stares...

Last week... Totally arbitrarily, I happened to be in the lounge at the gym watching OTL (on ESPN)... The topic was basically on 'steroids' & whether or not guys like Barry Bonds, or Roger Clemens, should receive nominations to the HOF... A couple of us were tossing out our opinions, then, this black fellow across asks a question to the other couple of us sitting there... "Do you think they should be on the ballot"?...

The question gets around to my POV & I say... "Yeah... why not"?... & my point is basically that I think a high number of athletes (in all sports), juice (& probably did so in abundance during the same era that Bonds & Clemens were tearing it up)... IOW ~ the 'system' needs high profile scapegoats... It's not the same effect to call a marginal player (who was juicing himself & still didn't make the show) to the dog & pony show of a Congressional hearing...

If you're with me so far on this (which you needn't be)... I followed up my POV with my opinion (to this black gentleman), with an analogy towards politics... I said:

"It's kind of like POLITICS... The whole system is corrupt from bottom to top"... (I was extremely careful about AVOIDING going in the explicit direction of the current administration)... So I basically said... "from your local mayor, to local assembly, all the way on up..." I left it dangling at that... Privately ~ I was curious if he would offer the next step (which he did)...

He said... "All the way up to the President"? (with a look of true bewilderment on his face)... I said... "Yup... Do you want examples"?... It's UNBELIEVABLE in this world how you have to tiptoe around what you say when it comes to talking about blacks & jews, but I tried my best to be delicate (& not start talking about blatant corruption)... So, as a way in, I asked him if he'd ever heard of John Corzine, or MFG... NOPE ~ he'd never heard of either...

As anyone here might imagine, it was almost a waste of time to discuss anymore, so I just gave him a basic rundown about THEFT, & the people involved... &, of course, the ones who profit from those dirty dealings... I tactfully avoided even mentioning either the name Obama or Holder in the conversation (which was a miracle)... & I rightfully MADE IT CLEAR that EVERYONE... I MEAN EVERYONE (on both sides), is equally guilty...

Which was the analagous point that I was trying to make with athletes on steroids all along...

~~~

The point to this story is... YES ~ PEOPLE THAT ARE LIVING & BREATHING IN THIS COUNTRY ARE THAT STUPID... (& although the linked article was a wonderful read ~ sadly, the consequences of it will not be felt by most until it's too late)...

FOOTNOTE: In the end, it was a good conversation... The guy (notwithstanding being somewhat clueless to certain things), was a totally cool dude, & I thought that he gave me decent ear with regards to the facts that I was presenting him... I said... "Look into it yourself ~ don't take my word for it"... It was worth the time despite the apparent risks...

 

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 15:16 | Link to Comment Gringo Viejo
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Francis...I hear you. Hard to accept that people so ill informed essentially negate your "vote". But then, I'm of the opinion that there are functional iliterates sitting in the United States House of Representatives.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 15:54 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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@GV

It is what it is...

I don't carry a soapbox around (but if someone is truly interested, I'll give them my thoughts for free)... I also welcome the thoughts of others (for free ~ cept the occasional casual donations) that are volleyed about on ZH...

Sometimes... even here... you have to wade through the peat bog of political correctness, but it's usually worth it in the end if your mind is truly open...

Footnote: With regards to your 'location' (above)... I'd be willing to put a small wager on the likelihood that the 'HOARDES' (which are on the periphery of your 'worry' scenario), won't even make it 5 miles out of the city in the Ca desert before they become rattlesnake & coyote food... But keep your guard up anyway...

 

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 17:04 | Link to Comment Gringo Viejo
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ILLTERATES! The pot calling the kettle black. lmao

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:47 | Link to Comment Disenchanted
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This is a real no shitter!! And it applies to more places than just Kalifornia...

 

Illegal immigration did its share. No society can successfully absorb some 6-7 million illegal aliens, in less than two decades, the vast majority without English, legality, or education from the poorer provinces of Mexico, the arrivals subsidized by state entitlements while sending billions in remittances back to Mexico — all in a politicized climate where dissent is demonized as racism. This state of affairs is especially true when the host has given up on assimilation, integration, the melting pot, and basic requirements of lawful citizenship.

 

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:17 | Link to Comment williambanzai7
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UNSAFE AT ANY SPEED

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:47 | Link to Comment Daily Bail
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Hang the bankers... ?  Bernanke, Paulson, Geithner, Rubin, Corzine, Dimon and Blankfein are safe for now, but perhaps if we moved Wall Street to downtown Tehran.

We have an entire class of people and financial corporations who do little more than use their money (via lobbying) and power to extract (e.g., legally steal) billions of dollars from both taxpayers and shareholders, and they are heralded as 'job creators' and 'captains of industry.'  When caught doing something that is actually illegal (Libor manipulation, for example), they blame rogue traders and call upon political connections with Eric Holder and Lanny Breuer via the Covington & Burling infested Department of Justice.

Scoundrels, every last one of them.

Meanwhile, those who steal food generally go immediately to jail.

 

BANKSTER DEATH PENALTY - Iran Sentences Four Bankers To Hang For $2.6 Billion Fraud - Meanwhile Jamie Dimon & Lloyd Blankfein Are Still Safe In America
Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:01 | Link to Comment duo
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Hers's your excuse for a bank holiday!  "The ATMs went down because our programmers don't have electricity".

Prepare...

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:57 | Link to Comment FeralSerf
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Now you know why the Jooze hate the Iranians so much!

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:07 | Link to Comment chiswickcat
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@williambanzai7. The picture reminds me of Yosemite valley floor during peak Summer season.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:14 | Link to Comment Skateboarder
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That's why you go to Tuolumne Meadows. ;)

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:34 | Link to Comment Uncle Remus
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El Dorado.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:41 | Link to Comment TrainWreck1
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Panic in Year Zero

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 09:29 | Link to Comment mess nonster
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So...why are the lights on in the photos? Emergency power?

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:01 | Link to Comment CPL
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Hurry up and line up already.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:03 | Link to Comment financial apoca...
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wtf is all this hype abt Tyler

I lived in New Delhi/Gurgaon for 17 of my 21 years of existence and it's not a big deal we are used to this shit. 

Those corrupt motherfucking politicians in VVIP areas got 100% uninterrupted power FYI even when hospitals were facing a crisis

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:10 | Link to Comment CPL
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Well then you have nothing to worry about then.  India should be just fine. 

 

Only reason it's problem now is because the VIP's aren't getting power to run the country like thieves and provide cheap outsourced labour to the rest of the world.

 

That's what people are most concerned about.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:35 | Link to Comment financial apoca...
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perfect summary CPL

it's abt making sure the factories and call centers don't cease operations

they don't give a fuck whether the fuckin metro works or if half the city is strandered, they just want the worker to report on time and thus all the fuss abt why the metro doesn't work. Most people got it all backwards

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:41 | Link to Comment CPL
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Well marketed outsourced slavery is still slavery.  We all know this because the masters are crying about losing their investment.

 

Any predictions on if the government will bailout the 40 thieves running the Indian showcase?  

 

Because one thing is forsure.  No crisis is complete without a bailout.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:04 | Link to Comment financial apoca...
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you do know the power companies have accepted half a dozen bailouts from the Delhi govt already?

Its a scam of epic proportions, the govt privatized Delhi power dstributiion network to enormous hype and expectations that black out were a thing of the past that was some 10 yrs ago

LMFAO guess they were wrong

im sure India will have it's share of bailouts bro just hang in there- our central govt is totally inept at doing anything right

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 18:00 | Link to Comment CPL
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That was my suspicion reading between the lines in the hundreds of articles over the last couple of years. 

 

Each country and culture has a word for taxpayer graft/bribery, in India the media word is payment adjustment.  How can a government agency transfering to another government agency adjust anything.  The power company ransoms...I was wondering about as well, the timings of the outages announce in the Indian Times (excellent paper I might add, well written and researched).

 

The timing of the power outages was always weirdly three weeks before bonuses.  Dirty pool really but I suppose the crying wolf doesn't work very well with infrastructure that hasn't changed since succession. 

 

Flick a light switch too many times on an incandesant light and the filament burns out with a pop.  Picture that using gigawatts of power and fuses the size of a tool shed with enough cabling to literally create a satellite the size of new york state made only of copper.  Flick that power system up and down and it would be impossible to calculate the residual damage done to it until the infrastructure really does have to compensate for a real failure.  Easier getting tooth paste back into a tube.

 

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 15:18 | Link to Comment Silver Alert
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Or, it's because TV ads didn't work so they have to find some other way to get Indians from buying gold - esp. with the upcoming wedding season.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:11 | Link to Comment Treason Season
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Same shit different day in Delhi.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:24 | Link to Comment azzhatter
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I spent a good bit of time in India when I lived in Asia. This looks almost normal to me for Mumbai, Delhi, Calcutta, Bangalore and Hyderabad. The traffic is unbearable. There are things in India that are unimagineable to a typical american suburbanite and I'll just leave it at that.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:20 | Link to Comment Skateboarder
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You haven't seen bad traffic until you've sat in in Indian metropolitan traffic for an hour to have moved only half a mile and you've breathed in enough CO2 to have warranted smoking an entire pack of smokes.

And the complete and utter lawlessness....

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:31 | Link to Comment Meesohaawnee
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sounds like washington

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:44 | Link to Comment Duke of Con Dao
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Agree! lived in many countries in SE Asia including Burma and it's always the same story. 

Better many of those grids were the same ones under the Raj.

India is a 3rd world country with airs! 

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:04 | Link to Comment Oldrepublic
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like the old joke about the USSR: Upper Volta with missiles!

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:04 | Link to Comment NemoDeNovo
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Not Good, if half of the US was without power, it would be the Zombie Apocolypse for sure :) </sarc> ......maybe

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:26 | Link to Comment CrimsonAvenger
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That was my first thought as well. What, nobody's looting anything? Nothing's on fire, except some candles for religious studies? These people totally don't know how to deal with a blackout.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:43 | Link to Comment CPL
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When the 2006 week long east coast black out hit, first thing most people did was bugger off to the cottage and clean out the beer store.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:48 | Link to Comment kito
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i was in nyc at the time of the blackout. reallly not that big of a deal folks---as long as we knew the power was coming back on. now an emp, thats a whole 'nother story.....................

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:00 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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So you really are the 'Son of Sam'???

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:00 | Link to Comment i_call_you_my_base
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I was too. Everyone just went to the bar and drank.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:06 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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When the BIG ONE hits in the US... You can be sure that the only juice that was flowing was to the HFT computers...

But don't worry... You'll wake up after 3 days & they'll tell you how much you lost... The only time I lose that much is when I go canoeing...

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:12 | Link to Comment i_call_you_my_base
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Yeah, I already lost all of my assets snowmobiling.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:30 | Link to Comment FL_Conservative
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Is it coincidence that Yahoo email servers have gone down (i.e., supported in India) or did Marissa Mayer start cackling there for the first time???

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:33 | Link to Comment Meesohaawnee
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no missy is too worried about putting 2year old stories on the main page like right now. the ex nfl cheerleader thats like Sandusky. .you cant make this shit up. Missy the easiest thing to do is not make the main page the second coming of the national enquirer. its so bad. Do you really think the people that read a story like that have the money she wants? Yahoo has just become such a painful experience. !!

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 15:36 | Link to Comment tenpanhandle
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x-box servers are all f'ed up as well.  can't even get a good game of MW3 these days.  What is the world coming to.  Not sarc, not spam, just the plain facts.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:04 | Link to Comment runlevel
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<song> Coming to America! </song>

 

 

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:05 | Link to Comment TwoJacks
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aside from people being stuck in out of the way places, if it happened here people might actually talk to each other again instead of staring into their phones

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:12 | Link to Comment CPL
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No power = no cell service = people having a chat.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:22 | Link to Comment Vagabond
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Power was out for days on the east coast at several times in the last few years.  Everyone uses their car chargers to charge their cellphones, and they spend just as much time talking.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:25 | Link to Comment CPL
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Same here in Canada, while my phone was fully charged the cell towers were down because of what?

 

What do cell phone towers use to connect calls?  Think layer 1.  It's like magic...colour blue...there's a shortage of it right now in India...

 

work with me here...

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:36 | Link to Comment Uncle Remus
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stupid electron tricks

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:40 | Link to Comment mixle
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Blue? That narrows it down to Twitter or Skype...

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:05 | Link to Comment vinu02
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Yes imagine a live without food and phone thats how its feel when one get stuck in train without power. http://www.freefdawatchlist.com/2012/07/stock-market-expected-to-open-lower.html

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:36 | Link to Comment mixle
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Can anyone explain why their stock market is up? CB liquidity?

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:06 | Link to Comment fonzannoon
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It looks like Penn Station.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:08 | Link to Comment alien-IQ
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If Americans were to be stranded without their idiot box for more than a day, we'd likely see mass suicides. If it were to happen during football season...mass riots...followed by mass suicides.

After all, how would the Roman masses have behaved without their bread and circuses?

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:18 | Link to Comment LawsofPhysics
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You speak as if this would be a bad thing.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:26 | Link to Comment CPL
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Considering here are seven billion of us today.

 

I believe they fucked alot.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:39 | Link to Comment graneros
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And there is the upside to an extended power outage.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:30 | Link to Comment The Count
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 You mean more than a day without the Real Housebitches of Orange County or Bromance? We will be at each others throat in no time...unlike Russians or Indians, we Americans need to be spoon fed or we go over the edge.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:43 | Link to Comment BotMightFly
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   New York, electric failure already happened in the 60's.  No big deal.  Vendors sold a lot of expensive flashlights.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:55 | Link to Comment Oleander
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The  AG in Massachushitts is fining Natinal Grid for power distruptions after hurricane Illene.

Its pathetic. People were whining for weeks about the power loss. Americans are incapable of prepareing for this. ZH readers are of course smarter than the average Americans and are the exception. 

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 15:12 | Link to Comment francis_sawyer
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@alien IQ

You don't know how right u are...

Last year (when the NFL was still on strike)... Ray Lewis of the Baltimore Ravens came right out & said it... [paraphrase] "If there is no settlement to this strike, there are going to be riots in the streets"...

I don't think he was kidding...

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:06 | Link to Comment midtowng
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Going without power isn't that big of deal if you aren't completely dependent on technology.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:07 | Link to Comment mckee
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Looks bad.... smells worse.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:25 | Link to Comment azzhatter
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The smell in most of the country is unbelievable

Wed, 08/01/2012 - 10:30 | Link to Comment e-recep
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that's why i will never ever travel there.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:08 | Link to Comment LoneStarHog
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Yeah, but Nielsen Ratings will show them all watching the top "bribes-paid" channels during this outage> http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/nielsen-sued-billions-manipulat...

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:08 | Link to Comment Confundido
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A lot of people living in this world...I get fucking Malthusian when I see so many...

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:46 | Link to Comment Pants McPants
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Well don't just sit there typing about it when you have it within your power to act upon such silliness. 

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:08 | Link to Comment Jonas Parker
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Thankfully, here in Texas, we're on a separate grid from the rest of the US.

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 13:20 | Link to Comment Hulk
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Thankfully, here in the good ole USA, we're on a separate grid from Texas !!!

Tue, 07/31/2012 - 14:38 | Link to Comment Uncle Remus
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Texas - it's like a whole other _______________________.

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