When The Market Was Crashing In August, NAR Says Existing Home Sales Soared

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Wed, 09/21/2011 - 10:16 | 1692182 razorthin
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Seriously, why do they even bother to release ANY data?  No one believes any public number anymore.  Nobody.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 10:16 | 1692184 GeneMarchbanks
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Real estate is now safe... {whew}

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 10:24 | 1692220 TruthInSunshine
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According to NAR's incredibly successful predicitions, real estate has bottomed in each of the last 39 months.

NAR, where it always the best time to buy!

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 10:58 | 1692395 Caviar Emptor
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Keep in mind this: the rise of the cash-only deal (noted by many) shows that home sales are mainly to speculators and investors, not individuals. Confirmation comes from the MBA mortgage ap data which has shown marked declines in the purchase index despite record low rates

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 11:54 | 1692658 Problem Is
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+10... Classic.

Is it possible Yun is a bigger liar than Obama Bin Lyin' himself??

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 10:18 | 1692192 Overflow-admin
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Turn inflation into wealth bitchez!

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 10:21 | 1692193 Careless Whisper
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Sales* Soared

foreclosures ... accounted for 31 percent of sales in August

*sales = repos

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 11:06 | 1692424 plinythehunger
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Right. And are the inventory numbers wild fire adjusted? Realtors need something to keep themselves busy, so why not start a bunch of brush fires? Every $1 in kerosene creates 1,000 jobs.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 10:18 | 1692194 Tense INDIAN
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just what might happen if there is no OT or no OERATION at all....and the fed says something like that they will be keenly looking at the economy

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 10:18 | 1692197 rocker
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  A house on Sale for 50% is usually a buy.........Maybe.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 10:19 | 1692201 doomandbloom
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Just Chill!

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 10:21 | 1692207 monopoly
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Lets see what the numbers are 5 years from now. Nothing new.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 10:24 | 1692208 razorthin
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At Dow 6500, it will be a TREMENDOUS buyer's market.


Wed, 09/21/2011 - 10:21 | 1692210 spartan117
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They also indicated rents were up.  Which is bullshit.  If you have access to MLS, you can clearly see rents are not going up.  At least in my neck of the woods.  Rents are coming down in Southern Cal, as owners are cutting rents after the summer months when traffic is the highest. 

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 10:30 | 1692254 DosZap
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Depends on where you are..................rates in most large Texas cities are UP.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 12:11 | 1692722 waylon153
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I'll second that.  Here in Houston, Class A/B/C market occupancy for apartments are running 87% and rents are up.  Class D is taking a hit because new projects being built.  Multi-family rates for new constuction running 4% for 10 year, 3.5% for 5 year.  Our economy has fared pretty well.  Other areas, not so much....

Edit:  Also, Low Income Tax Credit Housing is booming.  Can't build them fast enough.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 10:31 | 1692262 fdisk
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Don't talk for all. In my area rents are up 20%+ since 2 years


Wed, 09/21/2011 - 11:16 | 1692477 spartan117
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Looks like I poked the hornets nest of Landlords! 

I was personally able to lower my rent in Arcadia, CA by 10% this past summer for the next year.  And Arcadia houses one of the best school systems in the SGV.  You guys have no pricing power in this market.  Sure there are a few areas of strength, but if you really want people to believe that rents are going up as unemployment worsens and consumer confidence drops, you're going to have to provide much more than just anecdotal evidence that "rents are up where I live" BS.  You can check Zillow to see that asking prices for rents are well below "zestimates" if you don't have access to MLS.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 11:50 | 1692635 Grand Vizier
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You take Zestimates seriously?  Good luck with that...  Honestly, is this Amateur hour?  You need to get over your "Smartest Man in The Room" syndrome...

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 11:55 | 1692656 spartan117
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See below MLS figures, asswipe.  I might not be the smartest man in the room, but you sure look like the biggest idiot.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 11:56 | 1692664 Grand Vizier
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Touch a nerve, smart man???  Come, dazzle us with more of your wit and common sense... 

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 12:03 | 1692695 spartan117
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It seems it is I who may have "touched a nerve".  Underwater on your home?  Purchased "investment property" you can't rent out for positive ROI?  Why even respond to me if you haven't been agitated by my posts? 


Wed, 09/21/2011 - 13:43 | 1693326 Grand Vizier
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Yup, you got me pegged!  LOL 

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 10:47 | 1692348 Rentier
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totally depends on where you are, the rents on my rentals(all mine are upper scale rents...SS appliances and such) have all gone up.  Also, the demand for rentals has gone way way up.  Had one up for rent in late July and had 12 calls within 2hrs of listing it on a Sunday on Craig's list.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 10:53 | 1692372 i love cholas
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Depends on what part of so. cal. Rents are def. ticking up in SD

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 11:04 | 1692419 optionsoptions
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Rents are up in the Tampa Bay area.


And yes, I have access to MLS

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 11:24 | 1692517 spartan117
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Here's a partial list of recent price CUTS for homes in the nicer parts of SGV, including Arcadia, Temple City, and Alhambra.  5-10% declines this summer.










Rents going up????  Not here! 


Wed, 09/21/2011 - 10:37 | 1692219 monopoly
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And just gonna sit here and do nothing until the inmates make their useless decisions at 2:15.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 10:26 | 1692225 Flakmeister
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The NAR shills spin things so well that they should hire themselves out as Rotary Oil Rigs....

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 10:26 | 1692228 TruthInSunshine
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Fannie, Freddie & the FHA are sitting on about a couple million homes, either directly or indirectly, which they can't sell, so they've begun trying to rent them out (that's how disingenuous NAR is):


Gov't Wants to Rent Out Foreclosed Properties
Wed, 09/21/2011 - 10:26 | 1692229 r101958
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Compared to 5 years ago.....a statistical blip.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 10:28 | 1692238 Dr Hackenbush
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How is it the NAR is not mutually culpable for the RE bubble again? 

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 10:29 | 1692249 HoardeBilly
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What good is real estate? You can't eat it...

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 10:38 | 1692295 fdisk
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You cannot eat GOLD as well, but you can rent out

real estate, especially near the Ocean, and collect nice

chunk of change.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 10:59 | 1692399 plinythehunger
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You can also rent out gold.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 11:02 | 1692404 Spastica Rex
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I think there's some renting going on in gold, too.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 10:31 | 1692265 DosZap
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The 50 yr Old, Plan......................and possibly more bond purchases.


Wed, 09/21/2011 - 10:32 | 1692269 HCSKnight
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Really, just how different is the NAR/housing industry from the Fed/Wall Street machine or politicians?

All three were on the same lying team that made the three legs of the housing bubble stool. (pun intended)

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 10:33 | 1692276 fdisk
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GOLD keep dropping, not looking good on H4,

Another $50 drop zooming in.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 10:39 | 1692302 Kina
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Yep, the banksters selling make believe gold. China is laughing.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 10:37 | 1692291 Kina
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NAR- are they emabarassed to show their face in public?

The figures quite obviously total bullshit. These guys are saying black is white and expect everybody to think they believe what they are sayin.

Then again, why not, every other body remotely connected with US banking, economy, regulators and politics is entirely corrupt.



Wed, 09/21/2011 - 10:38 | 1692294 shazbotz
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Probably all homes that were marked down under $100k



Wed, 09/21/2011 - 10:38 | 1692297 jimcg
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Doubters....Suzanne researched it....



Wed, 09/21/2011 - 10:54 | 1692338 adr
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Well a sale to the bank counts as a real estate transaction as recorded in my local paper. The bank selling the home to the government counts as a sale as well.

I have seen the same home go back and forth multiple times in a single year in my neighborhood. From Owner to the bank, from the bank to Fannie, from Fannie to a speculator trust, and then back to another bank, then back to Fannie. Five sale contracts in less than a year for a single house which just so happens to be two doors down from me. Nobody has lived there for over a year.

I wonder how many "sales" can be accounted for with this type of BS.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 11:09 | 1692434 Village Smithy
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You got it my man! The banks are who is selling now. The robo signing freeze is over.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 10:53 | 1692370 DonBadajoz
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As usual, with "Good" news the market is down...

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 10:54 | 1692375 animalfarm1984
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I number of houses were bought with corruption cash especially China.  It seems like China is supporting not only Europe but USA.

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 10:56 | 1692382 Tsar Pointless
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Dozens of houses for sale in my area, none moving.

Everybody wants out, but they can't leave.

Amerikkka is becoming "Hotel California". Don Henley was a genius!

Wed, 09/21/2011 - 10:56 | 1692385 litoralkey
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I actually believe that NAR is correct on the market activity increase, but who knows if they have the scale correct.

It's the RRE equivalent of the Dow 30,000 frenzy before the equities bubble burst in 2007.

P.T. Barnum would explain this month as "Peak Sucker".

If everyone knew how and when to catch a falling knife there would be no losers.  If there were no losers, there would be no winners.

Those who bought in August are not going to be the winners.

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