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White House Orders Review Of Energy Department Loans To Avoid Solyndra Subpoena And Exercising "Executive Privilege"
The Solyndra-gate scandal, which the GOP realizes has the potential to shake the Obama administration to the very top, refuses to go away. Earlier today AP reported that to a republican Subpoena demanding all documents instead of just those selectively produced, "could trigger a claim of executive privilege by the Obama administration and elevate the political stakes. The loan is being investigated by two House committees, which have released Solyndra-related documents from federal agencies including the Energy and Treasury departments and the Office of Management and Budget." The White House has refused a request by the House Energy and Commerce Committee for all internal White House communications about Solyndra. White House Counsel Kathryn Ruemmler said the committee leaders' request has implications for "long-standing and significant institutional executive branch confidentiality interests." Naturally: it would be a big hit to the presidency's interests if it was uncovered that crony capitalist vigilante #1 himself is more than willing to distributed taxpayer capital to the highest bidder. So instead the The White House is ordering a review of loan guarantees made by the Energy Department after a California solar company that got a half-billion-dollar federal loan went bankrupt. There are more than two dozen of these to a variety of clean energy companies." And here is where the latest joke from this president jumps the shark: "[White House chief of staff] Daley said he's tapping a former Treasury official to conduct the review." A former Treasury official... of the Obama administration?
To paraphrase Erin Burnett, "Seriously?"
At least in Europe they assume the audience is somewhat sophisticated before they baffle them with endless bullshit and non-news after non-news.
Here, they skip that key assumption completely.
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Change you can believe in!
Uh UH, you can't investigate me, I'm gonna investigate myself! So there!
Nothing new. Government is one big conflict of interest.
Yes, this should surprise no one.
As much as I want to see the Obama administration brought to justice on this Solyndra affair, Fast and Furious/Project Gunwalker is a much, much bigger Obama crime. Solyndra is creating a distraction from the bigger problem.
"Most transparent administration EVAR", LOL!
The TV, newsmedia, hollywood et al aka The Matrix support and protect Obama at every turn. He has looted the Treasury and engaged in endless criminal acts.
Yeah, I mean really, what a shock it would be to find out that Obama really is the same piece of shit, double dealing, cheating, lying politician that we have always suspected this limp dick, cocksucking. dickweed to be?
dwdollar: Yes, THE original, certain, never-ending swindle.
Ah, yes, change we can believe in. Upon taking office, the Obama administration changed into a third term for George W. "Chimpy" Bush. Behold, and gaze in wonderment, as the Obama administration now changes into Nixon's second term.
Isn't there anyone that can trick all these guys to leave the country and get arrested for war crimes? Isn't there anywhere you can render a war criminal to where they will just keep them so they can't be a bother any more?
Gitmo comes to mind.
Tell Congress they are being given a free trip to a jobs conference in a tropical exotic location and lock them up with the Al-qaeda there, never to see a lawyer or the light of day again.
Winning!
Pirahhanoia: the World Court probably would love to hear from you. :-)
Too funny........but sadly, too true.
Count on the Democrats to circle the wagon around their criminal associates.
I like Republicans the same way I like Herpes rather than AIDS, but at least they usually give up their crooks when caught red-handed rather than protect them.
FourthStooge:
It's government as a concept that's wrong. We're slaves, but we don't have to continue to be.
right!
Bottom line: You can take the weasel out of Chicago politics, but you can't take Chicago politics out of the weasel.
Obumer gives Chicago politics a bad name. Come on, at least the flowers are planted and the snow gets plowed. The DC crowd can even do this for the people.
whats the cost of the investion .. More Gov spending on its self.
Seal them records!
Shred them records...
>Change you can believe in !
Yeah, it was a chunk of change. Ka Ching!
Here's your change.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avGl7k4OGJY
Change is in your pocket...
Please, please, please... can someone point me to a 'market' and/or entity that isn't corrupted at present...
... my my, how quickly fascism took hold. It was planned for decades and implemented practically overnight.
Drug cartel.
I heard they are very honest, loyal and charitable people.
yeah, but look at the whores they do business with... all the guns came from good old uncle same. have to wonder what the plan was there.
The "Plan" as was stated publicly by the glovermint itsveryownself was to blame the sales of fully automatic weapons on regular evey day ordinary citizens who bought the stuff by the truckload (might as well still have been sealed in Milspec containers labeled property of US Government) at their local gun shop and resold it directly to the Mexican Drug Cartels so there would be full reason, justification to stop the sale of firearms to every day ordinary American citizens.
Next, in case tyou were wondering but didn't have the time or even give a shit to ask about... Blackberry.
So every government under the sun is getting pissed about these here Blackberry secure information systems. Can't read everybody's mail, right? So Blackberry says, we'll kinda let you under the tent flap and everybody says not good enough. So what happens? All of a sudden, horrific major system outages all over the entire planet. D-U-fuckin-H. Now everybody's leaving Balckberry for "less secure" systems.
And Happy Birthday. 10th birthday today of the Patriot Act.
Anyone who believes their email security has anything to do with who you buy the products from is way too hopelessly naive to achieve "secure communications" in the first place.
So really...no loss on that BBerry thing.
(Unless you're RIM. But those guys know the score--if you want to be a successful business, you have to get in bed with the government. Integrity or material success--pick your poison.)
It's the coverup! Now the Nixon shoe is on the other foot! Ha ha!
LOL I'm sure it will be thorough and transparent
like a bank stress test
Solyndra: the gift that keeps on taking.
Plead the fif!
OT:
http://kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/KWN_DailyWeb/Entries/2011/9/16_Identities_of_JP_Morgan_Silver_Manipulators_Exposed.html
The only way justice will be served is if this lawsuit can be transferred to the German Supreme Court. Not our Squid SCROTUS.
Give me a break with this. The private sector lost more money on this deal than Obummer.
Look for a fire somewhere else momos
It must be nice to have more free space whilst swinging from his nuts now that so many others have realized their mistake and dropped off.
Yeah, but the private sector (is there even one anymore?) cannot legally put a gun to my head and demand money.
That's the governments job.
pods
Wow, what a leap of logic! I'd love to see you try and rationalize the chain of events that starts with quid pro quo, and ends with it being okay since the private sector lost more money.
Care to take the challenge?
Not much a challenge. It was a deal that looked good the private sector, which means the government and the market both got it wrong.
Quid pro quo notwithstanding.
Executive privilege = guilty jive turkey
jive turkey, lol
Chief Justice Burger further stated that executive privilege would most effectively apply when the oversight of the executive would impair that branch's national security concerns.
Using tax payer funds to subsidize losses from a campaign contributer does not equal national security concerns.
+ 1
Words...
If Executive Privilege were to allow for Carte Blanche than Bill Clinton would have pulled that card.
-Did you have sexual relations with that woman?
-I'm sorry, I have executive privilege. Oh and my cum stain on the upper area of her blouse...that's executive privilege too.
Executive Privilege wasn't extended to zero accountability until W's term.
manchurian candidate - no experience, no past, microchip behind ear intact
Mr. Issa (Pluto-GoldmanSachs) issues subpoenas for Mr. Obama (Pluto-JPMorgan Chase)
why don't they just stop pretending?
Is this our Friday afternoon joke?
All together now!
"Let the sunshine, let the sunshine in
The sunshine in
Let the sunshine, let the sunshine in
The sunshine in"
(Except don't let the sunshine in on my White House files.)
Cronyism from an Illinois politician? What are the odds?
1:1
I also want to see the paper trail showing how the Teleprompter Dog sent $2 Billion to/thru Soros for Brazilian offshore drilling while he was declaring a moratorium on US Gulf drilling. Subpoena bitches.
And now a word from a friend of Angelo...
"Washington-based Perseus says its affiliation with James A. Johnson, a major fundraiser for Obama’s campaign, played no role in persuading the Energy Department to award the loan to Vehicle Production Group, a Miami start-up that is manufacturing wheelchair-accessible cars and taxis."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/another-obama-fundraiser-and-adviser-is-investor-in-car-company-that-won-federal-loan/2011/10/27/gIQAPsnYPM_story.html?wprss=rss_whitehouse
Surprise!!!
The number of times George Kaiser's name will appear in any investigative report by the white house will equal the number of junks a "gold bitchez" post typically receives on ZH.
[yawn]
So much for "transparency".
What a crock of shit.
Special Prosecutor time...call for an independent prosecutor to investigate this mischief.
He is signing executive orders left and right here lately. Of course, no mention of it barely anywhere.
Delicious - there can be no real change w/out public outrage...both R's and D's are doing there best to piss off the electorate. Gas all over the place and now the sparks should start to fly.
Obviously this is bullish for stocks. Look at them go into close!
yeah, wtf?
the 3:30 faeries weren't even needed but they showed up anyway. Wonder if they're union faeries?
Oh, the transparent President is see-through, alright!
Hell, he isn't even translucent.
Not sure why they are invoking the idea of executive privilege? This implies they are hiding something that would incriminate the president or some other very high level administration people. That is, they did something illegal, which would/could lead to some real nastiness.
If it was just incompetence, so what? The government mishandles far more than $500M on a daily basis.
It could also be a side show to distract all from Fast & Furious where the real dead bodies are hidden.
Very odd.
sschu
"Executive Privilege" was very firmly cemented into place during the previous administration.
If someone requests information from the Executive branch, and it is not provided, THERE IS NO RECOURSE except impeachment.
We've been through all this. The laws are clear, but the Executive enforces them, and when they are not enforced, there's nowhere else to go. Some folks were upset during Dubya's tenure at the same behavior when it came to questions about waterboarding and imprisoning foreigners, but we let it all go.
So now we just suck it up, or we get an impeachment started.
Good fuckin' luck with that.
questions about waterboarding and imprisoning foreigners
Many did/do not like Bush, fine, I am not here to defend him. But many of the issues around "torture" and "imprisoning foreigners" were well vetted. Many came to the conclusion that waterboarding was not torture and that imprisoning foreigners was retaining enemy combatants (done during most wars), neither illegal as best I know. You may disagree, but these are serious issues that relate directly to national security.
To equate these to potential election fraud (trading government favors/loans for campaign donations) at the highest level of government is quite a stretch, even for rabid Bush haters.
sschu
Here's a simpler version of the previous post:
IF the Executive does not enforce the law, THERE IS NO RECOURSE except to impeach.
Congress cannot DO ANYTHING when the President doesn't obey the law. It has no police force or military.
(I only mentioned Dubya 'cause I wanted to see you defend him. You didn't disappoint.)
I'm all for impeachment, though. I hope Obama is impeached--government has been operating far too effectively considering the mess it's made.
Your point is a good one, if the President refuses to obey or enforce the laws, there are few options other than impeachment. But this has been going on since at least Lincoln and his incident with antiwar rabble rousers.
So I can assume your throwing the Bush issue in the discussion was an intentional provocation and lacking substance. So be it.
America is founded on the idea of a “moral” population, with laws and a system of justice of course. What we have today with millions of lawyers and endless laws shows how far we are from these ideas.
sschu
Hocus POTUS, it's that old Barak Magic called graft again.
On the bright side, the more of these sideshows we see the more irrelevant they become.
One day, like that last speech in V, when anyone from the government speaks to remind us why we need them, nobody will be listen.
The scariest thing for the government is if people realize they will be just fine without them.
pods
of course people will be fine without them
Hiding behind executive privilege? I guess the only safe thing to assume is that the entire "green" economy is a total pile of dogshit. How else does one explain selling 50% below your COGS?
They were planning on making it up on volume?
Kathryn Ruemmler, remember that name, she sounds like a prime candidate for the next Supreme Court opening,... provided of course, that she came brainwashed at one of the Ivy League schools.
Impeachment hearings would look wonderful around election time.
Keep abusing the power granted by the citizen of this country. When will people stand up and say "enough is enough"?
Never, they're too busy watching reality TV and blaming each other for their problems.
Im still waiting for Sen Grassley requested documents from the SEC that has been shredded er I mean misplaced...regulators protecting big boys... this administration is garbage Obama and his crew of champagne socialists sickens me...
Owebama
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Good post.
In case someone hasn't seen or heard this; here's a great JFK speech.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fOkx-k8a5c
Solyndra is peanuts when compared to First Solar. First Solar is on the verge of Bankruptcy with the CEO running away from the coming explosion.
U.S. Solar Companies Continue To StruggleSo where is the investigation of the birth certificate???
High Crimes and misdemeanors.
Utterly corrupt from top to bottom. There is no end to the baseness of the Washington/Wall Street axis. Take care of your loved ones as best you can, I believe that's all you can do.
It didn't take long for the FBI (a division of DOJ if I recall) to get in there and get those Soylandra records boxed and sealed, away from the prying eyes of Congressional investigators and nosy reporters (if there are still any of those left). Heh, wonder why?
First Clinton, now Obama. For those that think both parties are the same, think again.
Phewww
We sure are lucky the people in the USWhiteHouse are honest law abiding people.
Thier InHouse Laws apply here.
So....
He means Hank/henry Paulson gets to do some paper work.
Hell get down to the honest truth,I just know it.
ding dong.
(muffled voice behind door), Be right there, just give me a minute.
RRRRRRR! RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR, RRRRRRR! RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Flushes shreddings down toilet (Proceeds to door, opens) How can I help you agents?
We're here to discuss your connection with Solyndra fraud.
Come on in, have a look around. Would you like me to make a pot of coffee?
Moral of story, the arrests should have been made day one. Fucking joke!
In my country, we used to have investigations *before* arrests. Usually trials came before executions, too.
Ah, those where the good old days.
Whatever went wrong? :)
So when will there be Executive Executions???
If the American people elect this trash for a second term.
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If the wookie is from Endor you must aquit!!!!(probably wrong spelling but hey I'm an engineer not a linguist)
Special council next.
Obama Bin Lyin'... again...
outrageous pissing away of taxpayers money ..no doubt it all fell into some very grateful hands (names?) that would have been very empty handed had the public money not arrived just before the bankruptcy
i'm not sure what needs investigating... surely we must have the names of the those who railroaded the publc money through, those at Solyndra that pocketed it and heads must roll with immdeiate effect
Bumma pack your bags chump
I don't understand. The House Committee had the upper hand here, and already obtained a lot of documents that show that this was in part a politically motivated loan (if only just because of the timing, which rushed the due diligence to allow Biden to give a speech). Why are they undermining their own credibility with this move? Republicans: you made your point already and now you are threatening the proper separation of powers by pushing further. Do you want the next Republican to be subpoenaed for his emails? Obama personally visited the Solindra company and pushed for the cash advance funds for them, so now the white house is saying we did'nt know anything about it?...too late Barack, you already stepped in it, you can't wipe it off now....