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Who Is 'Latour Trading' And How Dare They Upstage Goldman?

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As long-term readers recall, the observation of Goldman's dominant presence in the NYSE's weekly program trading reports by Zero Hedge back in early 2009 was one of the key drivers that set in motion the backlash against algorithmic trading and HFT which back in 2009 was the pinnacle of fringe topics and has since become a daily talking point and market scapegoat du jour on days when stocks are down (but never up). It also drew attention to Goldman's prop trading division which Zero Hedge was the first and only vocal opponent of, and has since been demolished courtesy of the Volcker Rule, an event which both Moody's and Alliance Bernstein now say could cost the bank dearly in top and bottom line, yet which Goldman told us on the record "represents approximately 10% of this year’s reported net revenue." Guess it was more, huh... Yet the same NYSE weekly program trading update indicates that Goldman, up until now a monolith in NYSE program trading, has just lost its crown in that field as well. The new king. A firm called Latour Trading, which in the last week traded 484.6 million shares in principal strategies. Which begs the question: just who is this Latour Trading which dares to upstage the firm that does god's work on earth. Alas, their website has been less than forthright. Inquiring minds certainly want to know.

From the NYSE:

 


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Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:13 | Link to Comment abugarance
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probably a blankenstein+gary cohen new PA trading vehicle

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:20 | Link to Comment Silver Bug
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Perhaps a shadow firm?

 

http://silverliberationarmy.blogspot.com/

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:37 | Link to Comment Earl of Chiswick
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David Faucon

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOYYkT-TakI

formerly of

Tower Research Capital LLC

 

and then the story becomes to bizzaro to say any more just search Samarth Agrawal

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:42 | Link to Comment beastie
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You nailed it but everyone will ignore your comment. Also seem to have ties to Limewire.

 

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:48 | Link to Comment Earl of Chiswick
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Dear Judge Rakoff

LOL

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:52 | Link to Comment What does it al...
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I don't understand...  Revenue does not mean profit.  Volume traded does not mean profit either.... 

This reminds me of Groupon, where they can claim almost half a billion dollar in revenue, except still net negative.  Regardless, thanks to Earl of Chiswick info, it is evident that NYSE/ARCA "floor" members are just a fascade...  There is no point having a floor any more, everything is electronic.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:55 | Link to Comment gmrpeabody
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They are the new PPT.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 18:14 | Link to Comment phyuckyiu
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The link to latour leads to a blank page for me. I love it when Zero Hedge makes them run for cover. Definitely a front company, why bother hiding the fraud, nobody gives a shit!

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 18:25 | Link to Comment Pbn2Au
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+1 Blank page indeed.  Check out the source for the page...<HTML></HTML>  seriously

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 19:21 | Link to Comment hack3434
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LOL WTF?

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 19:41 | Link to Comment SDRII
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Brewster Jennings & Associates (google it)

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 22:04 | Link to Comment Freddie
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What is this?  A CIA air cargo and algo trading company?  The NSA computers on their lunch break?

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 22:17 | Link to Comment FEDbuster
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Bernake & Co.?

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 23:00 | Link to Comment CuriousPasserby
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That's what I immediately thought. They think they have to do something to stop the impending doom.

Tue, 10/11/2011 - 04:01 | Link to Comment phyuckyiu
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Limewire was a good place to get midget pr0n. Seems like a perfect fit, the SEC will get preferential torrent bandwith.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 20:25 | Link to Comment Kayman
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Latour de blanche....

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 18:17 | Link to Comment CIABS
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tyler(s):

sorry to nitpick, but you should improve your proofreading.  this headline asks the very interesting question "who" is latour trading, but in the body of the piece you write "how" instead of "who".  yeah, we all know what you meant, but this happens a lot, and it doesn't reflect well on your outstanding website.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 18:22 | Link to Comment JohnG
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Have you made a donation to ZH lately?  No?

Complaining and nitpicking over "vocabulary" is a sorry way to support free information.

There's a link at the top for donations.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 18:56 | Link to Comment knukles
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tyler(s) represent(s) a proper name(s) and thus should be capitalized as per; Tyler(s)

Dipwad.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 19:58 | Link to Comment Problem Is
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Nice Bitch-Slap, knuckle(s)...

Tue, 10/11/2011 - 04:03 | Link to Comment phyuckyiu
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I am having fun yet now.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 21:18 | Link to Comment jeff montanye
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as a picker of nits myself, i don't think you're sorry.  disingenuous, yes.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 21:49 | Link to Comment colfaxcap
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Bozo Alert (CIABS)

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:45 | Link to Comment The Deleuzian
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Holy Cow!!!  Thanx for sharing E of Chi

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:45 | Link to Comment POTUS
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David Faucon - "person credited with designing SocGen's original HFT program." Left SocGen with 4 others to go to Tower -- last SocGen HFT guy to leave was dumb enough to actually try and take the HFT code with him. So............ he developed HFT program for large French Bank -- so we know he knows how to use leverage (lots of leverage) and he should be adept at hiding trades ... should make for interesting story line 

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 18:13 | Link to Comment disabledvet
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Hey it's the President!

Tue, 10/11/2011 - 09:48 | Link to Comment imaginalis
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More HFT? David FaucOFF!

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 19:25 | Link to Comment papaswamp
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Mark Gorton is the bigwig and main man of Tower and Limewire, LimeGroup, etc.. Got his EE from Yale, masters at Stanford. Was an EE for Martin Marietta...then Credit Sussie (hmmm). 

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 20:50 | Link to Comment euclidean
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EoC - a big thanks

US jury starts hearing SocGen code theft case http://is.gd/zJY97K

"testified that Tower had wooed Agrawal in part to establish a competitor within the company to David Faucon, the person credited with designing the original SocGen system. Faucon is chief executive of an arm of Tower." ... "copying and printing the Societe Generale code last year so he could build a similar system for Tower Research Capital LLC hedge fund, which had offered him a job."

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 21:54 | Link to Comment IrritableBowels
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Nailed it.

Tue, 10/11/2011 - 06:26 | Link to Comment Wakanda
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Nice sleuthing E of C!  Bizzaro world indeed.

6 days until Black Monday II

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:54 | Link to Comment ReadySteadyGo
Mon, 10/10/2011 - 19:48 | Link to Comment ziggy59
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"Key Management Managing Director Mark Gorton worked in the proprietary trading department of Credit Suisse First Boston. Mark traded there for 4 1/2 years and built sophisticated tools used to analyze the markets. In the spring of 1998, he left Credit Suisse First Boston to set up Tower Research Capital LLC. Mr. Gorton's professional and educational background provides an unusual combination of math skills and financial knowledge to create and orchestrate the trading strategies utilized at Tower."

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:43 | Link to Comment max2205
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Goldman mini-me

Backwards RUOTAL. ROOTER

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 19:10 | Link to Comment Don Birnam
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" 'Who are they ?' Who do you think we are !"

Behold the trading arm of Skynet...

http://www.moviespad.com/photos/terminator-2-judgment-day-movie-scene-bd...

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 20:13 | Link to Comment ADirtyChapCalle...
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Listen up boys, girls, and Chairsatans. 

Tower Research Capital, according to the NFA, has 5 people of 10 listed with 10% or more financial interest [ http://www.nfa.futures.org/BasicNet/Details.aspx?entityid=GKhDZYk5r5s%3d ]. They are as follows: 

William ChuangDavid FauconJohn MartelloNicolas NiquetDavid Wichs . 

Now, I'm just some 19 year old peon with an interest in the kind of financial porn that ZH puts out, so some fellow ZH'ers will have to help me with a few things.

When you go to each of these guy's pages, towards the bottom it gives two dates along with 'Principal Pending' and 'Principal Approved.' From what I can gather, this signals when they begin their affiliation with the firm, but again, I need some help navigating this financial speak. But oddly enough, all of these guys got on board (I think?) with Tower recently all within weeks of one another. 

Chuang - Pending - 5/9/2011
    Approved - 6/2/2011

Faucon - Pending - 5/9/2011 
    Approved - 5/25/2011

Martello - Pending - 5/31/2011
     Approved - 6/21/2011

Niquet - Pending - 8/16/2011
   Approved - 9/2/2011

Wichs - Approved - 4/28/2011

Wichs with Tower Research Capital Europe - Pending - 4/16/2004
Approved - 7/19/2004

Curiously enough, Gorton himself does not have a 10% more interest in Tower. In fact, Chuagn, Faucon, Martello, and Niquet all have a 10% or more interest but have all been there the shortest amount of time. Who, I wonder, had such high stakes before these stooges came along?

I've also managed to dig up Latour's address and phone number. Their address is 10th floor, 377 Broadway, New York, NY 10013. The phone number is (212) 219-6000. 

Surprisingly enough, Tower Research lists themselves at the same address, except on the 11th floor. And the phone number? You guessed it - (212) 219-6000. 

So the two are literally on top of each other. And it also seems, at least to me, that whoever is pulling the strings at Tower is doing the same at Latour.

The plot thickens yet again when it is discovered that Lime Brokerage also had the same number on the list as Latour (admittedly, it is listed as (212) 219-600, but the lack of a single digit does not mislead the hounds). The page which Lime and Latour's phone numbers listed on, when clicked through google, lead straight to the NYSE page. But thanks to cache, we still have the archives of the internet. Oddly enough, the page was last updated on October 1st, 2011 (presumably when it was rerouted or destroyed). Why, then, is Lime's phone number --a mere 9 days later-- (212) 824-5000? Shell companies galore, or what? I'm still new to all of this, so again, help me out. 

I've also found a site that shows their SEC filings, but you've got to be a member to see them. So if any ZH'ers are a member of MarketBrief, follow the link and let us know what you find ( http://marketbrief.com/latour-trading-llc?secwatch ).  

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 20:32 | Link to Comment Kayman
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ADirtyChapCalle...

Thanks for the sleuthing.  Who are they ?  One of the many cockroaches slithering around on Wall Street.  Without the Fed (and the Fed's unlimited backing from the American taxpayer) they would all be crushed under the Heel of a Free Market.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 21:20 | Link to Comment Earl of Chiswick
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splendid work adi

isn't it wonderful when Master ZH tosses us a bone to gnaw on ... splendid indeed

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 21:39 | Link to Comment dark pools of soros
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Boiler Room for Algos that don't even have to con anyone directly..  just get the FED to pawn off any of their bad bets to the 'sophisticated sheeple'

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 22:15 | Link to Comment GFKjunior
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This is pretty amazing.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 23:26 | Link to Comment CuriousPasserby
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Having the same phone number is eaxy to explain. Oftentimes new businesses start out sharing a phone/desk/secretary with other small businesses until they do well enough to afford their own.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 23:58 | Link to Comment Bolweevil
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More trades than the Golden Sack and they can't afford a phone? You're banned from posting for one week.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 20:48 | Link to Comment philipat
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I wonder if there is an equivalent "Other Income" entry in the Squid's PNL?

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 22:06 | Link to Comment Akrunner907
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Go talk with Nicolas Mascio, he can help shed some light on them.  He handled 106R transfers for Latour in 2009.

 

 

 

 

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 22:33 | Link to Comment mw1
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A copy of their 2010 audited financial statements as filed with the SEC:  http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/vprr/11/9999999997-11-005691

Tue, 10/11/2011 - 01:10 | Link to Comment ADirtyChapCalle...
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How can Latour, with $400 million and some change, compete with GS at all?

Also, from the statement:

"Latour Trading LLC (the “Company”) is limited liability company and wholly-owned subsidiary of Tower Research Capital Investments LLC (the “Parent”). Tower Research Capital LLC is the managing member (“Managing Member”) of the Company. The Company’s operations consist primarily of proprietary trading in, but not limited to, equities and futures markets in the United States

The Company is a broker-dealer registered with the Securities and Exchange Commission (“SEC”) and is a member of the CBOE Stock Exchange (“CBSX”), which is its designated examining authority."

So they do prop trading, but what else besides equities and futures? 

To anyone with legal experience, are they only required to disclose that they trade in equities and futures while legally being able to trade in other instruments? The whole "but not limited to" leaves a lot of room to squirm.

Also, the phone number that was listed by NYSE does not match up to the one filed to the SEC, which is (917) 388-8619. This is a cell phone number. Who runs a $400 million operation from a cell phone?! Or is this standard industry procedure or something?

 

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:16 | Link to Comment espirit
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He who has the fastest algo's wins.  The rest are bagholders.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:19 | Link to Comment Surly Bear
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Great, ya'll killed their site....

 

Registrant: Tower Research Capital

 

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:17 | Link to Comment Racer
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AKA the PPT.... perhaps?

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:17 | Link to Comment s2man
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Chinese perhaps?  For some reason, I always suspect the Chinese, lately.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:20 | Link to Comment Crack-up Boom
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nah - you're thinking of La Choy.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:36 | Link to Comment legal eagle
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That was very clever crack-up....boom

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:52 | Link to Comment Crack-up Boom
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Thanks - one wordsmith to another.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 18:10 | Link to Comment narapoiddyslexia
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I think there are quite a few of us here. Res ipsa loquitor.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 18:18 | Link to Comment What does it al...
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You can't help it.

Chinese and Russian Quants dominate the space.  I will bet that there are LOTS of them.  Just check out the balcony from the youtube video.

You have to fight brain power with brain power...

 

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:18 | Link to Comment SilverIsKing
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Latour's Motto:

"You can't see us...but we're here."

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 19:03 | Link to Comment knukles
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Sorta like my wifie asking if I've just taken a poop?

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 22:27 | Link to Comment spekulatn
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 F***.... dat waz funny, knukles!

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:19 | Link to Comment slaughterer
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Chinese.  Or the Fed.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:24 | Link to Comment Strom
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http://exchanges.nyx.com/new-york-stock-exchange/latour-trading-nyse

Latour Trading, LLC visits the NYSE in celebration of the company's NYSE and Amex equity membership. The company is also an NYSE Arca member and recently became active in NYSE's LMM program. In honor of the occasion, CEO David Faucon rings The Opening Bell

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:22 | Link to Comment aviat72
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La-tour is anglicized of La Tourre as in the Fabulous Fab.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:20 | Link to Comment Belarus
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Must be the entity that Ben uses to ramp his sole mandate: The Russell 2000 to infinity. 

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 18:37 | Link to Comment buzzsaw99
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anagram: rut algo darn it

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:21 | Link to Comment somethingelse
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I've had Chateau LaTour bordeaux (back when i had money)  good stuff

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 21:23 | Link to Comment Aguadulce
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Is that a Rothschild winery by chance?

Tue, 10/11/2011 - 00:45 | Link to Comment slewie the pi-rat
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i think the chairsatan gave the IMF its own Plunge Protection Division, which explains why ms lastrange lagarde has been so red patent-leather freaking happy since jackson hole

L0L!

imo, this is the french robot trading brigade doing its part for the central planners' "markets"

NATO banksters.  with precision "surgical" targeting.  what could possibly go wrong?

Tue, 10/11/2011 - 05:21 | Link to Comment Tompooz
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Is it possible to find out what trades they have been focusing on?

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:21 | Link to Comment DoctorOfLove
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Doesn't beg the question.  It raises the question. 

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 18:00 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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But is that as bad as a grammar Nazi?

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 19:05 | Link to Comment knukles
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No, it's different.  A question Nazi is like your wife pestering the living shit out of you when you're trying to watch a Yankees or Bears game.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 20:36 | Link to Comment Kayman
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knukles

Just for giggles, tell your wife, "if you ever had anything interesting to say, I'd be listening"  My wife loves to hear it...

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:21 | Link to Comment baseball13
Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:22 | Link to Comment gimli
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I got the website:

 

Latour Trading

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 20:11 | Link to Comment Problem Is
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+1... gimli...

A bearded fucker with a sense of humor...

The Bernank could learn from you...

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 22:33 | Link to Comment spekulatn
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You bastards are on fire. 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhaap42I2sc

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:23 | Link to Comment ABG LINE
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Lol!

 

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:26 | Link to Comment DutchR
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Doesn't  James Bond drink Latour....

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 18:02 | Link to Comment Steaming_Wookie_Doo
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I think it was Bollinger (but that's for champagne)

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:26 | Link to Comment s2man
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http://exchanges.nyx.com/latour-trading

no info. 1,461 views.  probably 1460 in the last two minutes.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:26 | Link to Comment Lady Heather...UNCLE
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where's Waddell Reed?

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:27 | Link to Comment Mark of Zerro
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Two bankers at the Monopoly Board?  Let's see who throws down first. 

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:34 | Link to Comment s2man
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short, short game rules:  one player is selected as banker. he/she wins

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:31 | Link to Comment M.B. Drapier
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No relation to Bruno Latour, I'm sure...

Tue, 10/11/2011 - 07:36 | Link to Comment Cultural Capital
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+1

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:33 | Link to Comment goldfreak
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I guess Anonymous didn't do so well attacking the NYSE today?

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:49 | Link to Comment Dapper Dan
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Yes the did,

'Anonymous' takes down NYSE.com for 1 minute "Hactivists" take down NYSE.com as an extension of the 'Occupy Wall Street'

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/breaking/chi-anonymous-takes-down-nysecom-for-1-minute-20111010,0,1627656.story

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:40 | Link to Comment papaswamp
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Latour think...Lime Brokerage...think Electrical Engineer...think DoD contractors Martin Marietta/Lockheed....think Nimbis...think SIMD

The shell companies these days...too easy

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:36 | Link to Comment bob_dabolina
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Their website is elegant and simple. I wonder who designed it.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:37 | Link to Comment The Deleuzian
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God the 'Centralization' meme is strong...They have even suckered/payed a bunch of protestors to represent the opposition...Hats off to the establishment...Are you hiring?

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:39 | Link to Comment Yen Cross
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The " Red Zone" Goldies plug, works fore { SKIN} me.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:39 | Link to Comment Alvaro de Esteban
Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:45 | Link to Comment papaswamp
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Latour is under Tower Research Capital (great name if you think about it) owned by Mark Gorton...former electrical engineer with Martin Marietta/Lockheed...and surprise, Credit Suisse....now why would brokerages need EE's? especially those involved in supercomputer designs.....fuck this is a damn movie if I ever saw one.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:53 | Link to Comment Strom
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Gorton

Also the creator and owner of LimeWire...interesting stuff.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 18:18 | Link to Comment gmrpeabody
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Very...

Tue, 10/11/2011 - 01:36 | Link to Comment Bartanist
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So, reassure me that Limewire does not have applications in the espionage world.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:42 | Link to Comment Strom
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CEO is David Facoun - ENSAE class of 2001.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:46 | Link to Comment Looney
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Latour Trading, a.k.a. Tower Reserch Capital, is an ALgo/HFT http://www.tower-research.com/

Just wondering... if I want to attend one of their AA (as Algorithmic Anonymous) meetings, do I need a referral from a shrink or a court order?  ;-)

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 19:13 | Link to Comment knukles
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Depends on if it's open, women only, mens stag, gay, lesbian, Spanish speaking, mulitple diagnosis, closed or even for the math incompetent.  I believe that this month's Secretary is The Count.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:48 | Link to Comment The Deleuzian
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This is true cloak and dagger stuff...Spy vs. Spy weren't even close...More like Moonraker

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:49 | Link to Comment Strom
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So, he was at SocGen, and then moved to head Latour, which is a part of Tower Research Capital.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:55 | Link to Comment topcallingtroll
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Good work Zero-heads!

I can always count on the readership to solve any mystery.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 20:25 | Link to Comment Zero Govt
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we're 'bloggers' not 'readership' son... we were readers but worked out newspapers, like the media, are propagandists not news channels and we weren't sheep ...hence pent-up demand for a real news source like ZH 

that's how we got here, what are you doing here man of mystery solver? ...did the lights go out at your NY Times yesterday? 

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 17:59 | Link to Comment Earl of Chiswick
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WEIGHTED MONTE CARLO: A NEW TECHNIQUE FOR
CALIBRATING ASSET-PRICING MODELS

http://math.nyu.edu/faculty/avellane/weightedmontecarlo.pdf

witih thanks to David Faucon et. al.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 18:06 | Link to Comment spiral_eyes
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new algo.

financial "innovation"

is this new arms race going to be the thing that pushes all those QE dollars out into the markets?

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 18:02 | Link to Comment DormRoom
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Ah Christ.  another HFT outfit circulating money, flpping bits,  and not producing anything benificial to society.  wtf's wrong with America.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 20:51 | Link to Comment Kayman
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That's what's wrong with America. Reward the Cockroaches, penalize the workerbees.

Oh, and elect a dilettante for President.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 20:58 | Link to Comment philipat
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Crony capitalism?

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 18:10 | Link to Comment NotApplicable
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Looks like Latour and Goldman spent the last year flipping shares to each other.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 20:13 | Link to Comment Zero Govt
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"last year" ?  ...ex Goldman Sucks chief, Wank Paulson, has been fabricating fake paper trades in oil to stiff the oil market it's in high demand to pump up the prices for years ...share flipping ain't new, it's as old as stock market corruption itself... just ask ex US Treasury chief, Wank Paulson, who's an expert at catching Wall Street crooks like himself 

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 18:19 | Link to Comment GolfHatesMe
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I think they just added Kweku Adoboli to head up trading. 

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 18:58 | Link to Comment papaswamp
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.....

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 18:39 | Link to Comment Dapper Dan
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My google searches reveal there is no precedent for this years 2% and 3% stock rallies in the last 30 minutes of trading.

In addition, I found very little commentary regarding this phenomenon save some Zerohedge articles and one Vinnystock tips post.

The rallies never extend beyond the after hour futures market, today for example immediately after the close the futures fell off.

http://finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=YM&p=m5

 

 

 

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 20:19 | Link to Comment Nobody For President
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And a nice reverse rally in TZA - low volume most of day, green ramp started up on up volume exactly at 1500 from $42.50, hit 44.50 at 15:20 then a monster volume spike (biggest of the day) started it down, couple more red spikes over 600K before the close at 41.42 with and after-hour drift down to 41.24. 

~4% up, ~5% down in a hour - a boy could get whiplash watching this shit.

This pattern is getting old...

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 18:40 | Link to Comment Aeonios
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lol. So basically goldman got jobs for all their shitty french-banker friends through a shell company that will allow them to circumvent the volcker rule if it ever actually gets implemented?

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 18:52 | Link to Comment ExpendableOne
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Um....

 

Latour == Rout al

 

 

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 20:07 | Link to Comment Zero Govt
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"...just who is this Latour Trading which dares to upstage the firm that does god's work on earth.."

Latour Trading is 1st, Goldman Sucks is 2nd. God still has space in his heart to love also-rans, even total losers like corporate bankrupts Blankfein and Dimon, doing his work (ie. fraud, cooking corporate and Govt books, corrupting their auditors and democracy, pay-rolling politicians, fleecing clients and pension funds, getting leveraged to Mars and Uranus, going bankrupt etc)... God has rolled out alot of schemes at Goldmans recently through you Lloyd ?!!!

Point of Order TD : God is spelt with a capital 'G'. Now goldman are also-rans you can demote their Cap' to a lower case and Lloyd Blankfein to a basket case  

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 20:55 | Link to Comment Kayman
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Zero Govt

" God is spelt with a capital 'G' "     Only if you believe there is a big guy in the sky.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 20:12 | Link to Comment truthparency
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Interesting.  Looks like Mark Gorton is running a rather substantial European operation, too, under the name 'Spire Europe,' as part of the Tower Research family.

Dow Jones ran an article on this little HFT operation just last week!

http://www.efinancialnews.com/story/2011-10-06/who-is-spire-europe

Look up the IP addresses for www.tower-research.com, www.latourtrading.com, www.limegroup.com, and www.spireeurope.com ... they're all the same.

Looks like Gorton's got his hands in more than a few high frequency pies.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 20:22 | Link to Comment ADirtyChapCalle...
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Ayy, that reaffirms what I said about the phone numbers. Latour, Tower, and Lime all had the same (at least up until October 1st - the last time according to the internet that Lime had that number listed). 

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 20:47 | Link to Comment Atomizer
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Lloyd Blankfein on private equity and taxation

Jul 19 2007 Lloyd Blankfein, CEO of Goldman Sachs, reviews the news on FT.com. In this segment, he discusses private equity and taxation.

 

Q:Bear Stearns

A: Long

 

Q: Obama

A: Long

 

LOL

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 20:50 | Link to Comment randfan
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I got art on the Fab Faucon...not sure how dated this is, but it lists his association with Latour

 

https://www.polytechnique.org/fiche.php?user=david.faucon.1996

 

from the stuff i've found on him, he's definitely got some very real quantitative bona fides behind him.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 21:25 | Link to Comment Earl of Chiswick
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holy fck

you are a master

Tue, 10/11/2011 - 00:12 | Link to Comment Bolweevil
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Bravo!

Tue, 10/11/2011 - 04:18 | Link to Comment MikeNYC
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The face of a thieving weasel.

 

Makes me fucking sick.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 21:41 | Link to Comment dark pools of soros
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any chance the algos will start commenting here soon??

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 21:56 | Link to Comment colfaxcap
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Latour is probably just a shell company of Merrill, Morgan, CSFB, Goldman, and JP Morgan....
d/b/a. Latour LLC just so media and ZH can think someone else is the bad guy...at least until Zh exposes these maggots

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 22:14 | Link to Comment Earl of Chiswick
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I am in awe of what ZHers have been able to source.  This document is well worth the read.

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/022511agrawalgov.pdf

 

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 22:20 | Link to Comment Jena
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Agreed.  Seriously, you all are amazing.  

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 22:13 | Link to Comment mark mchugh
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I see by the comments here that some of you are quite good at internet research.  So it might interest you to know that in sometime in the last two weeks all yahoo pages have been excluded from the wayback machine (archive.org).

No one but me seems to have noticed this yet.

http://acrossthestreetnet.wordpress.com/2011/10/06/another-sad-day-for-truth-justice-and-the-american-way/

The way things are going, none of you who were able to dig things up on Latour/Tower/Gorton will be able to find that kind of info in a few more years. 

I'm asking you to understand the significance....

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 22:18 | Link to Comment Earl of Chiswick
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hadn't noticed

http://web.archive.org/web/19980212083710/http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/98...

 

but you are correct it will all be shut down in due course

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 22:56 | Link to Comment mark mchugh
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OK, I swear on my mother's grave, it was GONE from at least 10/6 until this morning (10/10).

I did capture a screen shot of the exclusion, and I will attest that it was all yahoo pages.

I'm just really glad they're back, so I've never been happier to look like a psycho.

So someone check me on this, CNN.com stopped getting crawled April 30, 2008

http://wayback.archive.org/web/*/http://cnn.com

I just think it's so important to be able to revisit the shit stuffed into America's collective head.

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 22:38 | Link to Comment mark mchugh
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Tower Research Capital has some dead Trademarks:

http://www.trademarkia.com/company-tower-research-capital-1250515-page-1-2

Tower Research owns at least 26 domain names, including:

hackwallstreet.com
latourtrading.com
limefund.com
limefunds.com
limegroup.biz
limegroup.com
limegroup.net
limegroup.org
limestone-trading.biz
limestone-trading.net
limestone-trading.org
limestone-trading.us
limestonetrading.biz
limestonetrading.com
limestonetrading.net
limestonetrading.org
overclockwallstreet.com
ebootwallstreet.com
spireeurope.com
tower-research.com
towerresearch.com
trc-ir.com

 

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 22:59 | Link to Comment overthehill
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Amazing info, Boggles the mind! Why is this lunacy tolerated? It not only adds nothing to the benefit of society, but it actually steals from society and distorts the trading process. If this is allowed to continue the markets will become privately dominated sand boxes . . .

Mon, 10/10/2011 - 23:32 | Link to Comment Freddie
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They did this during the dot bomb bubble on IPO day for the dot bombs.  The plan was to get the main street sheep to buy shit like furniture.com and other dopey companies.  On IPO they would trade stock amongst each other.

Tue, 10/11/2011 - 01:23 | Link to Comment Bartanist
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Back when Goldman was supposedly forced to get out of proprietary trading I questioned what would stop them from using a separate front company and collecting hefty royalties from the separate front company through some sort of exclusive licensing agreement of their equipment, processes and expertise. Goldman would technically not be doing the trading, but would collect the profits through the license fees.

Latour could be "Our Alt"

Tue, 10/11/2011 - 06:28 | Link to Comment Zephirus
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it looks like the LATOURTRADING.COM internet site has been registered by TOWER RESEARCH CAPITAL

http://whois.domaintools.com/latourtrading.com

 

Tue, 10/11/2011 - 10:15 | Link to Comment Börjesson
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Big Swedish daily Svenska Dagbladet made a story out of this - and gave credit and even a link to ZeroHedge! Unusual for the MSM, that.

http://www.svd.se/naringsliv/hemlig-tradingfirma-storst-i-new-york_6542999.svd

Thu, 10/13/2011 - 12:57 | Link to Comment carbonmutant
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"Code that can manipulate the market in unfair ways" can not be contained...

Thu, 10/13/2011 - 17:21 | Link to Comment synthetic
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just to reitierate...latourtrading.com is registered to Tower Research Capital, which is a subsidiary of Mark Gorton's Lime Group.

Tue, 10/18/2011 - 08:51 | Link to Comment ektor
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we know who is latour trading :

http://www.objectifeco.com/bourse/trading/article/samuel-rondot-un-franc...

 

crazy story, someone should directly start a movie on it : spy, secret algorithm, engineer becoming CEO, etc

Tue, 12/06/2011 - 10:46 | Link to Comment dougfan
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thought this was worth sharing; inspired in part by the post above...

http://dismagazine.com/discussion/26423/htmlhtml/

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