Who Leaked the NFP This Time?

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Presented with little comment except to note that in the minute or so before the actual sanctioned release from the dark little room at the BLS, S&P 500 e-mini futures slumped by 7 pts, surged and then slumped again by 7pts - double the entire overnight range in those 30-45 seconds. So after all the efforts to maintain the integrity of the NFP release, it seemed someone knew something early...

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Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:49 | 2396314 GetZeeGold
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Really sorry about that.....my bad.


Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:56 | 2396351 idea_hamster
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"the integrity of [insert BLS-related item]"

Ha -- Nice one!  But really, I think it's a bit late....

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:57 | 2396365 Hippocratic Oaf
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The FED told Goldmans machines.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:57 | 2396370 Chaffinch
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Whose was the best guess at what the BS number would be?

Oh yes, Goldman Sachs...

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:32 | 2396421 giovanni_f
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GS approves government data before they are released

GS is the government

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:37 | 2396586 Randall Cabot
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Yeah, but who was the dope that ramped it up 7 pts after the first drop only to be snookered again?

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:57 | 2396371 flacon
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Perhaps somebody from the future has invented a time machine and is using this "pre-knowledge" to their advantage.


...perhaps not...

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:58 | 2396380 Gully Foyle
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So you are a member of an economic filesharing group?

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:06 | 2396418 GetZeeGold
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Not card carrying.


Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:50 | 2396318 Decay is Constant
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Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:50 | 2396324 GetZeeGold
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Ha ha......classic!


Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:37 | 2396861 Carl Spackler
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Yes, a classic quote indeed.


and... "Turn the machines back on!"

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:49 | 2396319 GeneMarchbanks
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No one did. It's those fantaseconds that actually drift forward then back in time. The markets are rational.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:00 | 2396384 Gully Foyle
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The Doctor: All of time and space; everywhere and anywhere; every star that ever was. Where do you want to start?

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:51 | 2396326 EscapeKey
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Fraud and insider trading? On Wall St?? *gasp*

What is the world coming to.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:54 | 2396352 GetZeeGold
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Welcome to our world......mind the vampires.


Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:02 | 2396396 GMadScientist
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"Watch your step as you're getting off, kids!"


Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:50 | 2396327 Cassandra Syndrome
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Same with Gold. I put in a Buy order once Hampton said 115K on CNBC and it was already over $1,640 from $1,633 a few seconds before that.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:03 | 2396402 sharky2003
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Isn't there a 10 second or so TV delay?

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:11 | 2396438 WonderDawg
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That's what you get for trying to frontrun the big boys. Should have waited, it's back to $1635 again.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:51 | 2396328 Hubbs
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If the markets, the govt reporting, and Wall Street aren't rigged, then I'll go to the Nevada Brothels to pray for redemption.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:53 | 2396344 ihedgemyhedges
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Say hi to Celeste, Sunny and Cheryl for me.................

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:01 | 2396389 Hubbs
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Play and pray.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:51 | 2396339 aerial view
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Banksta's Dictionary:

U.S. Stock Market: a term associated with an entity that is corrupt, unfair, manipulated and opaque.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:53 | 2396340 AmazingLarry
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We don't know...ergo...it was vaporized. 

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:52 | 2396342 Manthong
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Heavens to Betsy!  Just plain shocking.

Something does not seem fair.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:53 | 2396345 Platinum_Investor
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The US is worse than CHINA.  Can't be trusted.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:53 | 2396346 Kina
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Don't worry the SEC are on to it, they are dead against insider trading and other various crimes......once they fire the bankster mafia running the place.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:55 | 2396353 SeverinSlade
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Yep, they're currently watching a porno with that precise plot.  Strange that the video only features midgets and amputees. 

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:56 | 2396369 GetZeeGold
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Don't worry the SEC are on to it..


You're killing me over here dude.


Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:55 | 2396356 pudding
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it's okie, if it is in China you know the number one week ahead

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:56 | 2396360 SheepDog-One
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NAH there cant be any cronyism or fraud, not in THIS fine markeplace! 

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:57 | 2396366 ES-Sniper
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Bernake's wife's account under her maiden name.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:58 | 2396379 flacon
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Is she a Romulan too?

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:03 | 2396399 LULZBank
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You think she would bother trading when her husband can just print money?

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 12:28 | 2397251 frieswiththat
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how cool would it be if her maiden name was lane?

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:58 | 2396374 razorthin
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Of course.  This is why the whole operation - the schemers, keepers and distributors of the bullshit, and the thieving profiteers who benefit from the inside need to be shut down.  "Market" closed for business.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:01 | 2396387 LULZBank
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This is one of the latest technological marvels of modern civilisations. The HFTs that can process faster than the speed of light and can time travel into the future and know the NFP release before it actually happened.

What the hell are you guys complaining about?! Didnt you want to go back to the future?

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:01 | 2396394 Gypsyducks
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ZNM2 rallied 8 ticks at the same time, 40 seconds BEFORE the number. spiked to the same level on the announcement and is trading that level right now. garbage

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:02 | 2396401 johny2
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integrity is something markets and dice don't have.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:05 | 2396404 giovanni_f
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The gold takedown this week was a pre-emptive measure. Absolutely necessary to prevent Gold from breaking out of its consolidation pattern in the context of miserable economic data.

From now on I regard the gold price as a predictor for scheduled government agency fabulations.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:20 | 2396483 Hubbs
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what about that argument of liquidation of gold to meet redemptions as a cause for driving  gold price down? It seems that the Central Banks printing and handing the wad of cash to the governments and banks would make gold sales unnecessary, thus not a reason to explain drop in gold.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:37 | 2396585 giovanni_f
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I don't buy the redemption argument, never did. But I would be happy to adapt my opinion in view of supporting empiric data.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:07 | 2396420 ThisIsBob
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For at least the third time this week Nasdaq pre-market quotes has been down,

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:13 | 2396442 junkyardjack
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Gold getting beat worst than Zimmerman

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:16 | 2396463 Godisanhftbot
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 they should have waited for the fake pop to sell.   how smart can they be? selling low?

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:16 | 2396465 lizzy36
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I don't know who leaked it, but i have full faith the SEC to get to the bottom of it. 

Now where is that Flash Crash report (cough 2 years later)?

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:18 | 2396469 Jim in MN
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Um, no offense, but two posts ago ZH trumpeted 'how to predict the NFP with Planck-constant-like precision'.


Just sayin'.  Irony much?


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