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Who Leaked the NFP This Time?

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Presented with little comment except to note that in the minute or so before the actual sanctioned release from the dark little room at the BLS, S&P 500 e-mini futures slumped by 7 pts, surged and then slumped again by 7pts - double the entire overnight range in those 30-45 seconds. So after all the efforts to maintain the integrity of the NFP release, it seemed someone knew something early...

 


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Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:49 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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Really sorry about that.....my bad.

 

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:56 | Link to Comment idea_hamster
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"the integrity of [insert BLS-related item]"

Ha -- Nice one!  But really, I think it's a bit late....

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:57 | Link to Comment Hippocratic Oaf
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The FED told Goldmans machines.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:57 | Link to Comment Chaffinch
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Whose was the best guess at what the BS number would be?

Oh yes, Goldman Sachs...

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:32 | Link to Comment giovanni_f
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GS approves government data before they are released

GS is the government

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:37 | Link to Comment Randall Cabot
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Yeah, but who was the dope that ramped it up 7 pts after the first drop only to be snookered again?

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:57 | Link to Comment flacon
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Perhaps somebody from the future has invented a time machine and is using this "pre-knowledge" to their advantage.

 

...perhaps not...

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:58 | Link to Comment Gully Foyle
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GetZeeGold

So you are a member of an economic filesharing group?


Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:06 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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Not card carrying.

 

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:50 | Link to Comment Decay is Constant
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BEEKS!

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:50 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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Ha ha......classic!

 

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:37 | Link to Comment Carl Spackler
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Yes, a classic quote indeed.

 

and... "Turn the machines back on!"

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:49 | Link to Comment GeneMarchbanks
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No one did. It's those fantaseconds that actually drift forward then back in time. The markets are rational.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:00 | Link to Comment Gully Foyle
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GeneMarchbanks

The Doctor: All of time and space; everywhere and anywhere; every star that ever was. Where do you want to start?

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:51 | Link to Comment EscapeKey
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Fraud and insider trading? On Wall St?? *gasp*

What is the world coming to.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:54 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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Welcome to our world......mind the vampires.

 

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:02 | Link to Comment GMadScientist
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzKLOQ-oh80

"Watch your step as you're getting off, kids!"

 

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:50 | Link to Comment Cassandra Syndrome
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Same with Gold. I put in a Buy order once Hampton said 115K on CNBC and it was already over $1,640 from $1,633 a few seconds before that.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:03 | Link to Comment sharky2003
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Isn't there a 10 second or so TV delay?

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:11 | Link to Comment WonderDawg
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That's what you get for trying to frontrun the big boys. Should have waited, it's back to $1635 again.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:51 | Link to Comment Hubbs
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If the markets, the govt reporting, and Wall Street aren't rigged, then I'll go to the Nevada Brothels to pray for redemption.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:53 | Link to Comment ihedgemyhedges
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Say hi to Celeste, Sunny and Cheryl for me.................

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:01 | Link to Comment Hubbs
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Play and pray.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:51 | Link to Comment aerial view
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Banksta's Dictionary:

U.S. Stock Market: a term associated with an entity that is corrupt, unfair, manipulated and opaque.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:53 | Link to Comment AmazingLarry
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We don't know...ergo...it was vaporized. 

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:52 | Link to Comment Manthong
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Heavens to Betsy!  Just plain shocking.

Something does not seem fair.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:53 | Link to Comment Platinum_Investor
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The US is worse than CHINA.  Can't be trusted.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:53 | Link to Comment Kina
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Don't worry the SEC are on to it, they are dead against insider trading and other various crimes......once they fire the bankster mafia running the place.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:55 | Link to Comment SeverinSlade
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Yep, they're currently watching a porno with that precise plot.  Strange that the video only features midgets and amputees. 

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:56 | Link to Comment GetZeeGold
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Don't worry the SEC are on to it..

 

You're killing me over here dude.

 

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:55 | Link to Comment pudding
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it's okie, if it is in China you know the number one week ahead

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:56 | Link to Comment SheepDog-One
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NAH there cant be any cronyism or fraud, not in THIS fine markeplace! 

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:57 | Link to Comment ES-Sniper
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Bernake's wife's account under her maiden name.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:58 | Link to Comment flacon
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Is she a Romulan too?

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:03 | Link to Comment LULZBank
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You think she would bother trading when her husband can just print money?

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 12:28 | Link to Comment frieswiththat
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how cool would it be if her maiden name was lane?

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 08:58 | Link to Comment razorthin
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Of course.  This is why the whole operation - the schemers, keepers and distributors of the bullshit, and the thieving profiteers who benefit from the inside need to be shut down.  "Market" closed for business.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:01 | Link to Comment LULZBank
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This is one of the latest technological marvels of modern civilisations. The HFTs that can process faster than the speed of light and can time travel into the future and know the NFP release before it actually happened.

What the hell are you guys complaining about?! Didnt you want to go back to the future?

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:01 | Link to Comment Gypsyducks
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ZNM2 rallied 8 ticks at the same time, 40 seconds BEFORE the number. spiked to the same level on the announcement and is trading that level right now. garbage

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:02 | Link to Comment johny2
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integrity is something markets and dice don't have.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:05 | Link to Comment giovanni_f
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The gold takedown this week was a pre-emptive measure. Absolutely necessary to prevent Gold from breaking out of its consolidation pattern in the context of miserable economic data.

From now on I regard the gold price as a predictor for scheduled government agency fabulations.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:20 | Link to Comment Hubbs
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what about that argument of liquidation of gold to meet redemptions as a cause for driving  gold price down? It seems that the Central Banks printing and handing the wad of cash to the governments and banks would make gold sales unnecessary, thus not a reason to explain drop in gold.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:37 | Link to Comment giovanni_f
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I don't buy the redemption argument, never did. But I would be happy to adapt my opinion in view of supporting empiric data.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:07 | Link to Comment ThisIsBob
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For at least the third time this week Nasdaq pre-market quotes has been down,

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:13 | Link to Comment junkyardjack
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Gold getting beat worst than Zimmerman

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:16 | Link to Comment Godisanhftbot
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 they should have waited for the fake pop to sell.   how smart can they be? selling low?

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:16 | Link to Comment lizzy36
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I don't know who leaked it, but i have full faith the SEC to get to the bottom of it. 

Now where is that Flash Crash report (cough 2 years later)?

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:18 | Link to Comment Jim in MN
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Um, no offense, but two posts ago ZH trumpeted 'how to predict the NFP with Planck-constant-like precision'.

 

Just sayin'.  Irony much?

 

"We have met the enemy and he is us" --Pogo/Walt Kelly

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:19 | Link to Comment TonyCoitus
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You gotta problem whith that?

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:21 | Link to Comment GNWT
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And you are surpised by this?

Been trading for 25 years and it has always been thus and will always be...

If you put your money on red or black for the NFP release, you deserve what you get...

Bet the people who know are sometimes surpirsed by the reaction...

Stay liquid my friends...

G

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:24 | Link to Comment pods
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"Welcome my son, welcome, to the machine."

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:26 | Link to Comment Change-In-Trend
Fri, 05/04/2012 - 09:52 | Link to Comment LoneStarHog
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I was watching gold and silver...just PRIOR to the authorized release they BOTH SPIKED from their MANIPULATED - with EVERY Monthly Employment Report - low.

Yeah!  Someone knew something!

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:17 | Link to Comment roguetraderinchicago
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It would be so difficult to figure out who too.   RIGHT!

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:18 | Link to Comment catacl1sm
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Same as it ever was.

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:21 | Link to Comment roguetraderinchicago
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Hello GLOBEX, this is the CFTC, we need a list of anyone who traded an e-mini contract above a 10lot in the time frame of 7:29-7:30.

 

Thank You, investigations complete.

 

 

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 10:26 | Link to Comment Clowns on Acid
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Does correlation prove causality? Easy to find out when all trading is electronic...

Gensler will be all over this one. Oh yeh Gary....what about Jon Corzine ?

Fri, 05/04/2012 - 11:37 | Link to Comment Seize Mars
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Where is Jon Corzine?

Seriously. Where is he?

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