Why The Market Is Slowly Dying

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Three years ago, when virtually nobody had yet heard of High Frequency Trading, Zero Hedge wrote "The Incredibly Shrinking Market Liquidity, Or The Upcoming Black Swan Of Black Swans" in which we asked "what happens in a world where the very core of the capital markets system is gradually deleveraging to a point where maintaining a liquid and orderly market becomes impossible: large swings on low volume, massive bid-offer spreads, huge trading costs, inability to clear and numerous failed trades?" Subsequent to this, our observation was proved right on both an acute (the May 6, 2010 Flash Crash), and chronic (the nearly 50% collapse in average daily volumes since the 2008 top) secular basis. And while we are not happy to have been proven correct in this particular forecast, as it ultimately means the days of equity capital markets in their current configuration are numbered, we now note that none other than Morgan Stanley's Quantitative and Derivative Strategies released a note which, with a three year delay, effectively predicts the end of capital markets in a world where every declining retail participation (another topic we have been hammering for the past 3 years as it is only the most natural response to a world in which not only equities are openly manipulated by central banks, but in which perpetrators for massive market disturabances are neither identified nor prosecuted) is replaced by artificial high frequency trading churn, which never was and never will be a true liquidity provider on a long-term basis.

To wit from Morgan Stanley: "In our mind, many of the approaches to algorithmic execution were developed in an environment that is substantially, structurally different from today’s environment. In particular, the early part of the last decade saw households as significant natural liquidity providers as they sold their single stock positions over time to exchange them for institutionally managed products... While the time horizon over which liquidity is provided can range from microseconds to months, it is particularly shorter-term liquidity provisioning that has become more common." Translation: as retail investors retrench more and more, which they will due to previously discussed secular themes as well as demographics, and HFT becomes and ever more dominant force, which it has no choice but to, liquidity and investment horizons will get ever shorter and shorter and shorter, until eventually by simple limit expansion, they hit zero, or some investing singularity, for those who are thought experiment inclined. That is when the currently unsustainable course of market de-evolution will, to use a symbolic 100 year anniversary allegory, finally hit the iceberg head one one final time.

How does Morgan Stanley frame their analysis? First, MS notes the ever increasing ownership of the stock market by big institutions, as retail investors took a back seat to investment allocation decisions, a secular theme until 2008, which however has subsequently plateaued:

Asset management has become increasingly institutionalized over the years. Individuals have outsourced their wealth management to institutions, whether pension funds, insurance companies or investment advisors. These, in turn, invest mostly in institutionally managed products such as mutual funds, ETFs, or long/short vehicles. The net result of this is that the vast majority of investable assets are held through institutionally managed vehicles. Exhibit 1 shows the evolution of ownership vehicles of corporate equity in the US. 37% of the USD 22tn of corporate equity is held by ‘Households and Nonprofits’ now, down from 50% at the turn of the century. This segment includes endowments and foundations, as well as on-shore hedge funds. Arguably, these should be counted as institutional investors as well. This means that direct household ownership of corporate equity is substantially below this figure.

 

For a universe of large-cap stocks4, Exhibit 4 shows the evolution of the percentage of ownership attributable to 13F filers and mutual funds since Dec 2001. This data corroborates Exhibit 1 on the increase in institutional ownership – on average, institutional ownership increased from 54% in March 2000 to 81% at the end of 2011.

 

Following the rapid growth of institutional asset management, however, the pace of increase in institutional ownership has slowed since 2008. We see this as one of the key drivers of the change in market structure and liquidity sourcing opportunities in recent years.

As more and more "equity capital" was concentrated into the hands of fewer and fewer people, the only logical outcome took place:

Trading decisions have become more concentrated as asset management has institutionalized. There are fewer decision makers (fund managers) now than in a world where management is dispersed across households. The size of their parent orders, on the other hand, has grown. The basic set up of the market – in terms of a continuous auction limit order book supplemented with ‘upstairs’ solutions –  has not changed. The details of the implementation have adjusted, of course – such as competition in execution venues, new order types,  and greater use of technology.

 

One of the most significant results of the tension between fewer market participants and larger parent order sizes is that the share of ‘real’ trading volume has declined by around 40% in the last five years. In Exhibit 5, we show the average proportion of quarterly trading volume that is attributable to changes in the 13f filings of each institution. We use this as our definition of ‘real’ trading volume. We also calculate the trading volume from our separate dataset of mutual fund holdings. We aggregate ‘buys’ (positive position changes) and ‘sells’  separately for each institution and mutual fund, on a per-stock basis, and calculate the average percentage of volume across stocks in our universe.

As a result, reports of the market's evaporating volume are not greatly exaggerated.

In our mind, these numbers constitute a lower bound on the amount of ‘real’ trading volume in the market (defined as the trading volume from market participants that hold assets for longer periods).

 

The share of real trading volume shows three distinct phases. From 2001 to 2006, institutional buys accounted for 27% of total trading volume on average, while sells accounted for 20%7. The asymmetry between buys and sells reflects the growth in the institutional share of ownership over the period (see Exhibit 4). From 2008 to 2011, we see a significantly lower share of trading volume – buys represent just 16%, and sells 13%, a drop in market share of almost 40%.

 

The 2007/2008 period represents a transition period, with a rapidly declining share of ‘real’ trading volume. This period coincided with rapidly increasing overall trading volume (Exhibit 6) – in 2006, the ADV was 4.8bn shares, while in 2008 it was 8.8bn shares. Volume has since declined again – YTD ADV is 6.9bn shares.

While it will not come as news to any of our regular readers, the disappearance of retail investors has meant the incursion of electronic trading in the form of relentless rise in HFT dominance.

Throughout the last decade, the share of institutional trading volume by each institution type has been remarkably constant (Exhibit 7). This means that the reduction in institutional share of overall trading volume between 2007 and 2008 was not due to a reduction in trading activity by any one institution type, but rather due to the introduction of a new type of trading volume.

 

A potential reason [for the drop in our measure of the share of ‘real’ institutional trading volume] is that institutional execution strategies have made liquidity more challenging to find. Concentration in assets under management has led to larger order sizes. One of the responses to this has been automation in execution strategies. The algorithms used tend to split parent orders into smaller child orders. As a result, we find that block trades, which made up around 30% of trading volume in 2003, accounted for just over 5% of trading volume in 2011 – see Exhibit 8. At the same time, the average trade size has fallen to around 250, from more than 1,000 back in 2003. Both data series are based on NYSE listed stocks.

 

Next Morgan Stanley explains precisely why the current market is no longer fit to deal with the existing roster of players, fit for a previous iteration of capital market topology such as that which prevailed when Reg-NMS was conceived, but certainly not the current one, especially if retail continues to withdraw from trading equities and invest its cash forcibly into that other terminally epic bubble - bonds.

In our mind, many of the approaches to algorithmic execution were developed in an environment that is substantially, structurally different from today’s environment. In particular, the early part of the last decade saw households as significant natural liquidity providers as they sold their single stock positions over time to exchange them for institutionally managed products. Adjusting the institutional execution strategy to capture this liquidity was a rational thing to do.

But...

This institutionalization of asset management is mostly done by now, as we showed in Exhibit 4. As a result, execution strategies that were calibrated on the earlier market environment may no longer be optimal. The rise in trading volume since 2007 (when the growth in institutional ownership leveled off) reflects the growing challenges of sourcing liquidity. The way this has been resolved is through the introduction of more ‘market making’ activity in the form of liquidity provider trading.

Let's repeat that for the cheap seats: "As a result, execution strategies that were calibrated on the earlier market environment may no longer be optimal" and we could in theory just end it here. 

We all know that the bulk of HFTs close each day flat to avoid overnight holding risk, which they do by increasing churn amongst each other to unprecedented levels, in the process generating massive momentum swings as every player piggybacks on either side of the move. End result: even Moran Stanley admits that churn is not liquidity, and that the inability of HFT to carry inventory and have a longer-term bias is the fatal flaw in the current market topology, precisely as we warned back in April 2009!

The risk-carrying capacity of these providers is limited. If natural liquidity does not materialize, they may trade with another intraday liquidity provider to manage their inventory. This is particularly true if the institutional parent orders are larger and hence typically longer lasting.

From here, everything else follows:

Typical market-making liquidity provisioning strategies can be modeled as mean reversion strategies. If liquidity demand is persistently one-sided (such as in the case of large parent orders), it is rational to flatten the market maker position faster if the risk-carrying capacity is limited. In the absence of natural liquidity on the other side, this will often be through a trade with another intraday liquidity provider.  The net result is that the the amount of trading volume that is attributable to this segment of the market will increase.

Thus: lim investing time horizons approaches 0 as HFT ->  infinity

While the time horizon over which liquidity is provided can range from microseconds to months, it is particularly shorter-term liquidity provisioning that has become more common. This is partially a reflection of the changing nature of the default liquidity provider – ‘High-Frequency Trader’ is a commonly applied term.

Unfortunately, the "High Frequency Trader" is NOT, as explained, a liquidity provider in the conventional sense: it is an ultra-short time horizon churn facilitator and liquidity extractor (when the meager rebate for providing liquidity does not offset the capital holdings risk) and nothing else. Which is why just like the Fed has become the artificial lender of last resort in a regime that is unsustainable and where central banks are forced to grow their assets exponentially (as shown on Zero Hedge) just to preserve the flow so very needed to keep equities from collapsing, so HFT has become the artificial provider of fake liquidity.

The problem is that just like the half lives of central bank intervention, so the incremental benefits of ever greater HFT penetration are becoming less and less.

What happens next? Here Morgan Stanley, while trying to be diplomatically correct, comes to precisely our conclusion - trade while you can.

In our view, many of the changes in the market environment – such as the decline in trading volume – are secular. The trade from household direct share ownership to institutionally managed ownership has happened, removing one of the natural sources of liquidity. At  the same time, the micro-efficiency of the market in identifying and exploiting liquidity demand, exemplified by the growth in intraday liquidity provisioning strategies, is here to stay.

 

What are the implications for institutional execution strategies? The first implication is a re-evaluation of parent order sizing. Liquidity for institutional trades is now ultimately sourced from other institutions for the most part, rather than from households. The share of trading volume from these institutions has been falling by almost 40% over the last five years. This means that the amount of liquidity we can reasonably expect to source in the market should also fall by a similar amount. For example, we find that the upper limit of the percentage of ADV that can be traded in a VWAP-type strategy without undue price impact is typically around 4-5% now, versus 10-15% in the period before 2007.

 

The second implication is that execution strategies have to focus on maximizing the likelihood of being a liquidity provider. This has always been the objective of portfolio managers (‘Buy Low, Sell High’). Within the institutional asset management process, that has not always  been as central to the execution strategy. The assumption has been that liquidity will be available in the markets, and that the cost of demanding that liquidity (the market impact cost) was small relative to the alpha potential over time. As the composition of trading volume changes, this assumption has become more problematic. Having urgency constraints (e.g. having to finish a trade at a particular time)  becomes increasingly costly relative to the alpha potential.

Where Morgan Stanley stops short is the logical next question: what will detour this transition to a market driven by quantized incremental binary decision-making, aka RISK ON, RISK OFF, where with every passing day, we get greater and greater volatility shifts? The answer: nothing, unless of course, for some reason retail investors do come back, however with Lehman, the Flash Crash, MF Global, central planning, forced media propaganda telling everyone "it is a once in a lifetime opportunity to buy", even as markets in real terms are still down nearly 40% from 2000, retail has had enough of the rigged stock market casino.

Simply said: they are done.

Hence HFT will have no choice but to become a greater and greater role in equity trading, pardon, churning. Until one day, by logical extrapolation, only HFT is the marginal setter of prices, with no regard for value, logic or analysis, and a price-determining function set purely by historical precedent yet a precedent which will be no longer applicable in the least as the paradigm shift to a conceptually different "market" will have then happened. Or said otherwise: "large swings on low volume, massive bid-offer spreads, huge trading costs, inability to clear and numerous failed trades"... just as we predicted back in April 2009.

Just as simply said: with its advent, HFT sowed the seeds of its own self-cannibalization.

Which also goes back to another key concept, and arguably the biggest flaw in all of modern economics: it is never about the stock. It is all, and always has been, about the flow. Last week Goldman tacitly acknowledged it for the first time. Expect more and more economic hacks to follow suit.

The irony that ties it all together, is that if indeed for some reason retail investors do come back, and do pile their over $8.1 trillion in fungible money currently stored under the electronic cushion as we described in This Is Where "The Money" Really Is - Be Careful What You Wish For, which in turn would also unleash the titanic wall of money hidden behind the Shadow Banking dam wall (at last count about $35 trillion contained among the custodial holders of all securities why are quietly swept into the shadow banking system's re-re-rehypothecated pseudo asset pyramid and regulated by exactly nobody), which no conventional economic theories account for, yet which as Ben Bernanke this week, and Zero Hedge for the past 2 years, has been warning is the real catalyst of the (hyper) inflationary spark, then the Fed will be powerless to stop the biggest avalanche of empty artificially created fiat currency ones and zeros to ever hit the monetary system in the history of the world since Weimar. Only this time it will have the added benefit of HFT to accentuate every move imaginable as cash transitions from an inert form to an active, asset managed one.

But this is far beyond what one learns in Econ 101, which is why we will have to wait at least another 3 years before the Morgan Stanleys and all other bandwagon chasers of the world close the loop on what we are (and have been for a while) warning right now.

In the meantime, we are confident readers will enjoy the supreme irony: in their attempt to perpetuate the insolvent status quo farce, the central planners are now forced to choose between the terminal Scylla and Charybdis: a pyrrhic Schrödinger [alive|dead] market, or an even more pyrrhic Schrödinger [alive|dead] monetary regime.

We hope they choose wisely.

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Sat, 04/14/2012 - 16:58 | 2345684 Vince Clortho
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Satellite surveillance; Drone recon; cameras at every intersection; security cameras at businesses; iphone cameras everywhere; all email, cellphone, electronic  communication recorded and analyzed;  not to mention your neighbors and children getting prizes and bonuses to inform on you; laws against speaking against the PTB ....

What would it take to convince you that Brave New World/ Big Brother is here right now?

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 21:11 | 2345932 TheFourthStooge-ing
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.

What would it take to convince you that Brave New World/ Big Brother is here right now?

I would be convinced by the presence of unvandalised Gatsos.

http://www.speedcam.co.uk/gatso2.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Bw2C_XR64Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z71n_kD-LUE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRnlRurTwFg

 

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 14:26 | 2345464 resurger
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Nokia 3310 FTW

Poor Apple & Facebook users

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 14:42 | 2345475 fuu
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That's not a hacker, that's a moran who is about to be an example.

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 15:09 | 2345499 Manthong
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Oops... same thing whitehouse.gov did... posted a raw file with all of the constituent data instead of a regenerated flat bitmap.

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 19:20 | 2345813 krispkritter
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What a boob...

 

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 14:10 | 2345448 Spitzer
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Thats one of the prettiest ways of saying "buy gold" that I have seen in a long time.

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 14:18 | 2345449 Yen Cross
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The markets' are dying because of the "EXTREME" skew! We should be experiencing an "EXTREME" fair market value sell off right now!

 Why do people continue this accept this perpetual servitude, AKA " DEBT"? Get a F..KING job, people!

 Look at this " Haberdashery" central banks have put the world in! Who in the heck would have thought the BoC, SNB, RBA would be safe havens for "real money/model-sovereign" funds, 5 YEARS ago?

 This crap is comical! All three of those (central) banks comprise .00? of the global economic output!

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 17:50 | 2345733 oddjob
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Why do people continue this accept this perpetual servitude, AKA " DEBT"? Get a F..KING job, people

If you are happy trading the one life you have for somebody else's paper, yes go rush out and get that job.

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 14:13 | 2345450 junkyardjack
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Markets evolve

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 14:21 | 2345458 Yen Cross
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 You obviously Haven't! Check back in when you discover, " sentence structure".  [RIP ]

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 14:38 | 2345472 jcaz
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Seriously, dude? 

You're exactly the problem.....

 

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 15:00 | 2345486 Yen Cross
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Mr. Yen Cross to you.

Sun, 04/15/2012 - 10:30 | 2346446 jcaz
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Congrats!  You managed a sentence almost error-free!

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 22:50 | 2346023 New_Meat
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dang, tough crowd tonight

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 14:19 | 2345452 slewie the pi-rat
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fluff & stuff
churn to earn
spin to win
slash and burn

 

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 14:29 | 2345467 t_kAyk
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soon to be 'crash and burn'

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 14:44 | 2345476 fuu
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You've been lyrical all week.

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 15:17 | 2345517 slewie the pi-rat
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duet?

how about: Papa's got aBrandNewBag

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 16:46 | 2345668 fuu
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kfPUx7w9tA

"Inside James Brown was screamin soul
Outside the rebels were freezin' cold"

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 14:17 | 2345454 Anarchyteez
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MARKET DEVOLVES.

 

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 14:20 | 2345455 resurger
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"Those who cant build must burn" - Ray Bradbury

 

 

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 16:32 | 2345649 Zero Govt
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unfortunately it's the firestarters who are in charge

it's what happens when you put Govt at the top of society, the parasites get in (win)

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 14:20 | 2345457 TheSilverJournal
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With the baby boomers now looking to draw down on their investments instead of saving more...uhoh.

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 14:23 | 2345461 Yen Cross
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ZIRP... at it's best! Hence the endless QE banter!

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 14:25 | 2345462 perelmanfan
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"...many of the approaches to algorithmic execution were developed in an environment that is substantially, structurally different from today’s environment." Translation: "Where did the suckers go?"

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 14:36 | 2345466 resurger
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lol ..

The rich are not willing to put their money in the frontline where investors come and make some money so that they reinvest it again, they have already vacuumed the sheeples(investors) money in the dot.com & REstate bubbles, now the poor middle class has nothing left so that they contribute to the market, the solution was to create the HFT algorithms to give the facade of a functioning market.

Only primary dealers left out there with fake/phony stock revaluations, lets see how will that end.

 

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 14:58 | 2345480 slewie the pi-rat
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L0L2

propaganda alert!   this from the UN guy whose convoy got fragged in libya a day or two ago [not bush's fault: it was b/c of the moQ...]

must. secure. libya.

  • for.
  • vacuum.
  • "mr" martin from spookCity in charge, BiCheZ!
Sat, 04/14/2012 - 20:52 | 2345833 slewie the pi-rat
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Hahaha!  the "show" must go on!  even on zH

security = vacuuming libya

now, libya is a "nation" b/c everyone agrees it is a nation;  everyone except the libyans, that is

everyone who knew how to run and administer the state has been run off b/c they "were w/ the moQ" 

coupla weeks ago, the UN was advising them to start getting the trash and garbage picked up in tripoli b/c the "let's revolutionize the healthCare crowd", not knowing a fuking thing about healthCare, had apparently failed to notice?

i had a close person in tunisia last year;  when he first saw the refugee camps, he said the migrant stuff was pretty rough duty, but the libyans who were fleeing were all arriving in new/late model  volvos!  

the moQ ruled this place b/c he was able to;  historical fact

and when sarko and bilary and the insane brits decided he wasn't the legitimate head of state and the whole world decided they were right, so take him down, slewie still considered him the legit head;  not b/c he was good or bad, but simply b/c he was the head honcho;  but NAT0 and the UN knew better!

so now, change has come via 50-70K dead, but hey!  ya can't make an omelette w/o breaking eggs...

so how's that omelette coming? 

not too good, imo, but others are overflowing w/ hope for the 143 desert tribes;  and besides, have ya heard?  not one american casualty!  glory!

i'm not against libya, but stick the propaganda up yer own junkster asses, toy-boys

or feel free to actually write a bit of what you "believe" about this fabulous 0T "vacuuming" of peoples' assets;  even if it = bilary + "mr"Martin + less dead than matter to you?  or were you on the "inside", expecting this carnage and probaly even living quite "well" from its "revenue streams"? 

i've been looking this shit right in the eye for almost 50 years;  pardon me if i don't stop b/c of your "disapproval" ok, UN asswipes?

the tyranny to come even now to libya may be more or less than the "tyranny" under the moQ;  but it will certainly not be libyan;  get it?

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 23:00 | 2346032 New_Meat
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dang, 3.1415, u get it, better, you 'splain it.

But the bureaucratz (such as Susan Rice http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Rice ) have different ideas v. your comments. Syria b District 12, i.e. next.

- Ned

Sun, 04/15/2012 - 00:57 | 2346128 slewie the pi-rat
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thxz, ned

i just snagged a stray thought:  what was the relationship w/ DSK (IMF)?  was he "detained" from possibly doing some "banking" in the EZ in the moQ's interests?  did Treasury run something to ground about libya there? 

i love to make shit up 

trust me

Sun, 04/15/2012 - 07:53 | 2346305 ExpendableOne
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I thought the same of Iraq.  Saddam just barely kept it together with thugs a plenty.  Now we go in with goofy rules, platoons of JAG officers and pimply faced youth (trained killers though).  All into an environment shot through with intellegence officers from all over, religious zealots and just plain organized crime (or government, is there really much of a difference?).

I believe some group somewhere has figured out that it's easier to herd the sheeple en mass than it is to arm twist the local governments.  Therefore, we take out the governments and unleash the sheep dogs (technology, propaganda, UN, etc).

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 14:31 | 2345468 Yen Cross
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The suckers ran out of $! Now they are depressed pill poppers, living in delusion. Long Pharma! The back filling looks done S/T!

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 21:00 | 2345922 mendigo
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Perfect analysis.
No charts?
Thanks.

Sun, 04/15/2012 - 23:53 | 2347768 ekm
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigori_Perelman

Interesting name. I don't think you'd reject One Million Dollars, though.

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 14:30 | 2345463 ebworthen
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As speed increases yet volume and participants decrease - volatility and instability rise.

Add to that momentum and value chasing - along with sector rotation and churn - and the internal friction will get pretty hot.

Look at this past week - big moves down up, then down on what were relatively non-news events.

People and machines in the same markets fed by FED cotton candy - "Chaos Chimera".

The HFT robots will eventually defeat themselves.

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 18:54 | 2345794 scatterbrains
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What did Brian Sack's leaving signal?  that we should get an almost continuous dumping of stocks since?

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 21:10 | 2345930 Stuck on Zero
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Oh my Gawd.  Increasing velocity and decreasing volume can only mean increasing pressure.  It's Boyle's Law.  It's gonna explode!

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 23:07 | 2346038 StychoKiller
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Once the signal to noise ratio reaches the noise floor, all the amplification in the world will NOT find the signal, just noise!

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 14:27 | 2345465 Sudden Debt
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The number of shares traded may be higher than in 04 but since almost every company diluted their shares bigtime, I think that if you recalculated the numbers in that way plus the value of the stocks, the outcome would be different.

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 14:37 | 2345471 Yen Cross
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Qualcomm comes to mind! Although they diluted heavily in th 90's. That company is on my "add to" radar!

  Verizon vs ATT? Any thoughts?

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 15:38 | 2345549 ebworthen
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AT&T's corporate culture is still poinsonous to customer service and value.

As Verizon takes on Apple business, I see them trouncing what market share AT&T has.

In other words, AT&T will shoot themselves in the foot 'ere long.

Mobile device usage with the younger set to go up and up.

But...markets and stock valuations are toppy. 

If you buy anything you are gambling on FED intervention (cotton candy) that has increasingly diminishing returns plus the reality that the patterns that led to 2008 are repeating.

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 16:09 | 2345619 Yen Cross
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Thank you!  I appreciate your time. If I can help in the future, just let me know.

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 17:34 | 2345713 ebworthen
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YW, and TY.

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 14:36 | 2345469 spekulatn
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Money quote for me and my bitchez:

 


Unfortunately, the "High Frequency Trader" is NOT, as implicitly explained, a liquidity provider in the conventional sense: it is an ultra-short time horizon churn facilitator and nothing else. Which is why just like the Fed has become the artificial lender of last resort in a regime that is unsustainable and where central banks are forced to grow their assets exponentially (as shown on Zero Hedge) just to preserve the flow so very needed to keep equities from collapsing, so HFT has become the artificial provider of fake liquidity.

Well done ZH.

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 15:13 | 2345505 knukles
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That's why it's called "trader" as opposed to Liquidty Enhancement Mechanism or some such shit

Sun, 04/15/2012 - 01:41 | 2346155 Oh regional Indian
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Liquidity Enhancement Mechanism for MING!

It's a Chicom plot, the lemming code...run!
ori 

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 15:13 | 2345507 GeneMarchbanks
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Ultra-short time horizon = air pockets

For me, it just solidifies what I have been meditating on for a while, that is the 'big institutions' have concentrated increasingly more of the trades. Obviously, increased risk, but also the simple fact that like LTCM many of the big guys are running the exact same trade and once someone tries to exit it'll be chaos as usual.

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 14:37 | 2345470 tmosley
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"Rest of world" and "others" are seperate categories?

Sweet, the martians really ARE going to bail us out!

Sat, 04/14/2012 - 16:36 | 2345653 Zero Govt
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no TM, at best Martian life is algae and knowing Bernanke he's already got them leveraged up to the hilt

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