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Why The UK Trail Of The MF Global Collapse May Have "Apocalyptic" Consequences For The Eurozone, Canadian Banks, Jefferies And Everyone Else

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Reposting by popular demand, and because everyone has to understand the embedded risks in this market, courtesy of the shadow banking system.

In an oddly prescient turn of events, yesterday we penned a post titled "Has The Imploding European Shadow Banking System Forced The Bundesbank To Prepare For Plan B?" in which we explained how it was not only the repo market, but the far broader and massively unregulated shadow banking system in Europe that was becoming thoroughly unhinged, and was manifesting itself in a complete "lock up in interbank liquidity" and which, we speculated, is pressuring the Bundesbank, which is well aware of what is going on behind the scenes, to slowly back away from what will soon be an "apocalyptic" event (not our words... read on). Why was this prescient? Because today, Reuters' Christopher Elias has written the logical follow up analysis to our post, in which he explains in layman's terms not only how but why the lock up has occurred and will get far more acute, but also why the MF Global bankruptcy, much more than merely a one-off instance of "repo-to-maturity" of sovereign bonds gone horribly wrong is a symptom of two things: i) the lax London-based unregulated and unsupervised system which has allowed such unprecedented, leveraged monsters as AIG, Lehman and now as it turns out MF Global, to flourish until they end up imploding and threatening the world's entire financial system, and ii) an implicit construct embedded within the shadow banking model which permitted the heaping of leverage upon leverage upon leverage, probably more so than any structured finance product in the past (up to and including synthetic CDO cubeds), and certainly on par with the AIG cataclysm which saw $2.7 trillion of CDS notional sold with virtually zero margin. Simply said: when one truly digs in, MF Global exposes the 2011 equivalent of the 2008 AIG: virtually unlimited leverage via the shadow banking system, in which there are practically no hard assets backing the infinite layers of debt created above, and which when finally unwound, will create a cataclysmic collapse of all financial institutions, where every bank is daisy-chained to each other courtesy of multiple layers of "hypothecation, and re-hypothecation." In fact, it is a link so sinister it touches every corner of modern finance up to and including such supposedly "stable" institutions as Jefferies, which as it turns out has spent weeks defending itself, however against all the wrong things,  and Canadian banks, which as it also turns out, defended themselves against Zero Hedge allegations they may well be the next shoes to drop, as being strong and vibrant (and in fact just announced soaring profits and bonuses), yet which have all the same if not far greater risk factors as MF Global. Yet nobody has called them out on it. Until now.

But first, a detour to London...

As readers will recall, the actual office that blew up the world the first time around, was not even based in the US. It was a small office located on the top floor of 1 Curzon Street in London's Mayfair district, run by one Joe Cassano: the head of AIG Financial Products. The reason why this office of US-based AIG was in London, is so that Cassano could sell CDS as far away from the eye of Federal regulators as possible. Which he did. In fact he sold an unprecedented $2.7 trillion worth of CDS just before the firm collapsed due to one small glitch in the system - the assumption that home prices could go down as well as up. Yet the real question is why he sold so much CDS? The answer is simple - in a world of limited real assets, the only way to generate a practically limitless cash flow annuity would be to sell synthetic insurance on a virtually infinite amount of synthetic underlying. Which he did. Only when it came time to pay the claims, AIG blew up, forcing the government to bail it out, and set off the chain of events where we find ourselves now, where every day could be the developed world's last if not for the ongoing backstops, guarantees and bailouts of the central banking regime. 

What is greatly ironic is that in the aftermath of the AIG collapse, the UK was shamed into admitting that it was its own loose, lax and unregulated system that allowed such unsupervised insanity to continue for as long as it did. As the Telegraph reminds us, "Conservative Party Treasury spokesman Philip Hammond called for a public inquiry into the FSA’s oversight of AIG Financial Products in Mayfair. “We must not allow London to become a bolthole for companies looking for a place to conduct questionable activities,” he said. “This sounds like a monumental cock-up by the FSA,” said Lib Dem shadow chancellor Vince Cable. “It is deeply ironic,” he added, that Brown was in Brussels last week calling for tougher global financial regulation just as the scandal over the FSA’s role in one of the key regulatory failures at the root of the global panic emerged as an international issue." It is ironic because the trail in the MF Global collapse, where it is yet another infinitely leveragable product that once again comes to the fore, once again goes straight to that hub for "questionable activities" - London.

But before we explain why London is once again to blame for what was not only the immediate reason of the MF Global collapse, but could well precipitate the next global collapse, a quick look at rehypothecation.

As Reuters points out, it was not so much the act of creating "repos-to-maturity" that imperiled MF Global, but what is a secret gold mine for those privy to it - the process of re-hypothecation of collateral.

[h]ypothecation is when a borrower pledges collateral to secure a debt. The borrower retains ownership of the collateral but is “hypothetically” controlled by the creditor, who has a right to seize possession if the borrower defaults.

 

In the U.S., this legal right takes the form of a lien and in the UK generally in the form of a legal charge. A simple example of a hypothecation is a mortgage, in which a borrower legally owns the home, but the bank holds a right to take possession of the property if the borrower should default.

 

In investment banking, assets deposited with a broker will be hypothecated such that a broker may sell securities if an investor fails to keep up credit payments or if the securities drop in value and the investor fails to respond to a margin call (a request for more capital).

 

Re-hypothecation occurs when a bank or broker re-uses collateral posted by clients, such as hedge funds, to back the broker’s own trades and borrowings. The practice of re-hypothecation runs into the trillions of dollars and is perfectly legal. It is justified by brokers on the basis that it is a capital efficient way of financing their operations much to the chagrin of hedge funds.

So far so good, assuming there was regulation, and assuming if regulation failed, that the firms that blew up as a result of their greed would truly blow up, instead of being resurrected as TBTF zombies by a government in dire need of rent collection and lobby cash (because with or without regulation, if those who fail are not allowed to fail, then the whole point of capitalism is moot). But... there is always a snag.

Under the U.S. Federal Reserve Board's Regulation T and SEC Rule 15c3-3, a prime broker may re-hypothecate assets to the value of 140% of the client's liability to the prime broker. For example, assume a customer has deposited $500 in securities and has a debt deficit of $200, resulting in net equity of $300. The broker-dealer can re-hypothecate up to $280 (140 per cent. x $200) of these assets.

 

But in the UK, there is absolutely no statutory limit on the amount that can be re-hypothecated. In fact, brokers are free to re-hypothecate all and even more than the assets deposited by clients. Instead it is up to clients to negotiate a limit or prohibition on re-hypothecation. On the above example a UK broker could, and frequently would, re-hypothecate 100% of the pledged securities ($500).

 

This asymmetry of rules makes exploiting the more lax UK regime incredibly attractive to international brokerage firms such as MF Global or Lehman Brothers which can use European subsidiaries to create pools of funding for their U.S. operations, without the bother of complying with U.S. restrictions.

 

In fact, by 2007, re-hypothecation had grown so large that it accounted for half of the activity of the shadow banking system. Prior to Lehman Brothers collapse, the International Monetary Fund (IMF) calculated that U.S. banks were receiving $4 trillion worth of funding by re-hypothecation, much of which was sourced from the UK. With assets being re-hypothecated many times over (known as “churn”), the original collateral being used may have been as little as $1 trillion – a quarter of the financial footprint created through re-hypothecation.

So let's see: a Prime Broker taking posted collateral, then using the same collateral as an instrument for hypothecation with a net haircut, then repeating the process again, and again... Ring a bell? If you said "fractional reserve lending" - ding ding ding. In essence what re-hypothecation, and subsequent levels thereof, especially once in the shadow banking realm, allows Prime Brokers is to become de facto banks only completely unregulated and using synthetic assets as collateral. Curiously enough it was earlier today that we also penned "ECB Confirms Shadow Banking System In Europe In Tatters" in which we explained that since ECB has to expand the eligible collateral it will accept, there is no real collateral left, meaning the re-hypothecation process in Europe has experienced terminal failure.  Yet the kicker is that the "safety haircut" only occurs in the US. Not in the UK. And therein lies the rub. In the UK, the epic failure of supervision has allowed banks to become de facto monsters of infinite shadow banking fractional reserve leverage - every bank's wet dream! Naturally, Prime Brokers have known all about this which explains the quiet desire to conduct re-hypothecation out of London-based offices for every US-based (and Canadian) bank. Reuters explains:

Keen to get in on the action, U.S. prime brokers have been making judicious use of European subsidiaries. Because re-hypothecation is so profitable for prime brokers, many prime brokerage agreements provide for a U.S. client’s assets to be transferred to the prime broker’s UK subsidiary to circumvent U.S. rehypothecation rules.

 

Under subtle brokerage contractual provisions, U.S. investors can find that their assets vanish from the U.S. and appear instead in the UK, despite contact with an ostensibly American organisation.

 

Potentially as simple as having MF Global UK Limited, an English subsidiary, enter into a prime brokerage agreement with a customer, a U.S. based prime broker can immediately take advantage of the UK’s unrestricted re-hypothecation rules.

While we already mentioned AIG as an example of the lax UK-based regulatory regime, it is another failed bank that is perhaps the best example of levered failure but in the specific re-hypothecation context: Lehman Brothers itself.

This is exactly what Lehman Brothers did through Lehman Brothers International (Europe) (LBIE), an English subsidiary to which most U.S. hedge fund assets were transferred. Once transferred to the UK based company, assets were re-hypothecated many times over, meaning that when the debt carousel stopped, and Lehman Brothers collapsed, many U.S. funds found that their assets had simply vanished.

 

A prime broker need not even require that an investor (eg hedge fund) sign all agreements with a European subsidiary to take advantage of the loophole. In fact, in Lehman’s case many funds signed a prime brokerage agreement with Lehman Brothers Inc (a U.S. company) but margin-lending agreements and securities-lending agreements with LBIE in the UK (normally conducted under a Global Master Securities Lending Agreement).

 

These agreements permitted Lehman to transfer client assets between various affiliates without the fund’s express consent, despite the fact that the main agreement had been under U.S. law. As a result of these peripheral agreements, all or most of its clients’ assets found their way down to LBIE.

And now we get back to the topic at hand: MF Global, why and how it did precisely what Lehman did back then, why it did this in London, and why its failure is a symptom of something far more terrifying than merely investing money in collapsing PIIGS bonds.

MF Global’s Customer Agreement for trading in cash commodities, commodity futures, security futures, options, and forward contracts, securities, foreign futures and options and currencies includes the following clause:

 

     “7. Consent To Loan Or Pledge  You hereby grant us the right, in accordance with Applicable Law, to borrow, pledge, repledge, transfer, hypothecate, rehypothecate, loan, or invest any of the Collateral, including, without limitation, utilizing the Collateral to purchase or sell securities pursuant to repurchase agreements [repos] or reverse repurchase agreements with any party, in each case without notice to you, and we shall have no obligation to retain a like amount of similar Collateral in our possession and control.”

 

In its quarterly report, MF Global disclosed that by June 2011 it had repledged (re-hypothecated) $70 million, including securities received under resale agreements. With these transactions taking place off-balance sheet it is difficult to pin down the exact entity which was used to re-hypothecate such large sums of money but regulatory filings and letters from MF Global’s administrators contain some clues.

 

According to a letter from KPMG to MF Global clients, when MF Global collapsed, its UK subsidiary MF Global UK Limited had over 10,000 accounts. MF Global disclosed in March 2011 that it had significant credit risk from its European subsidiary from “counterparties with whom we place both our own funds or securities and those of our clients”.

It gets even worse when one considers that over the years the actual quality of good collateral declined, meaning worse and worse collateral was to be pledged in these potentially infinite recursive loops of shadow banking fractional reserve lending:

Despite the fact that there may only be a quarter of the collateral in the world to back these transactions, successive U.S. governments have softened the requirements for what can back a re-hypothecation transaction.

 

Beginning with Clinton-era liberalisation, rules were eased that had until 2000 limited the use of re-hypothecated funds to U.S. Treasury, state and municipal obligations. These rules were slowly cut away (from 2000-2005) so that customer money could be used to enter into repurchase agreements (repos), buy foreign bonds, money market funds and other assorted securities.

 

Hence, when MF Global conceived of its Eurozone repo ruse, client funds were waiting to be plundered for investment in AA rated European sovereign debt, despite the fact that many of its hedge fund clients may have been betting against the performance of those very same bonds.

At this point flashing red lights should be going though the head of anyone who lived through the AIG cataclysm: in effect the rehypothecation scenario affords the same amount of leverage, and potentially even less supervision that the CDS market. Said otherwise, the counteparty risk of daisy chaining defaults is on par with that in the case of AIG.

As well as collateral risk, re-hypothecation creates significant counterparty risk and its off-balance sheet treatment contains many hidden nasties. Even without circumventing U.S. limits on re-hypothecation, the off-balance sheet treatment means that the amount of leverage (gearing) and systemic risk created in the system by re-hypothecation is staggering.

 

Re-hypothecation transactions are off-balance sheet and are therefore unrestricted by balance sheet controls. Whereas on balance sheet transactions necessitate only appearing as an asset/liability on one bank’s balance sheet and not another, off-balance sheet transactions can, and frequently do, appear on multiple banks’ financial statements. What this creates is chains of counterparty risk, where multiple re-hypothecation borrowers use the same collateral over and over again. Essentially, it is a chain of debt obligations that is only as strong as its weakest link.

And the kicker:

With collateral being re-hypothecated to a factor of four (according to IMF estimates), the actual capital backing banks re-hypothecation transactions may be as little as 25%. This churning of collateral means that re-hypothecation transactions have been creating enormous amounts of liquidity, much of which has no real asset backing.

It turns out the next AIG was among us all along, only because it was hidden deep in the bowels of the unmentionable shadow banking system, out of sight (by definition) meant out of mind. Only it was not: and at last check there was $15 trillion in the shadow banking system in the US alone, where the daisy chaining of counteparty risk meant that any liquidity risk flare up would mean the AIG bankruptcy was not even a dress rehearsal for the grand finale.

But where does one look for the next AIG? Who would be stupid enough to disclose the fact that they have essentially the same risk on their off-balance sheet books as AIG had on its normal books? Once again, we turn to Reuters:

The lack of balance sheet recognition of re-hypothecation was noted in Jefferies’ recent 10Q (emphasis added):

 

    “Note 7. Collateralized Transactions
    We pledge securities in connection with repurchase agreements, securities lending agreements and other secured arrangements, including clearing arrangements. The pledge of our securities is in connection with our mortgage?backed securities, corporate bond, government and agency securities and equities businesses. Counterparties generally have the right to sell or repledge the collateral.Pledged securities that can be sold or repledged by the counterparty are included within Financial instruments owned and noted as Securities pledged on our Consolidated Statements of Financial Condition. We receive securities as collateral in connection with resale agreements, securities borrowings and customer margin loans. In many instances, we are permitted by contract or custom to rehypothecate securities received as collateral. These securities maybe used to secure repurchase agreements, enter into security lending or derivative transactions or cover short positions. At August 31, 2011 and November 30, 2010, the approximate fair value of securities received as collateral by us that may be sold or repledged was approximately $25.9 billion and $22.3 billion, respectively. At August 31, 2011 and November 30, 2010, a substantial portion of the securities received by us had been sold or repledged.

    We engage in securities for securities transactions in which we are the borrower of securities and provide other securities as collateral rather than cash. As no cash is provided under these types of transactions, we, as borrower, treat these as noncash transactions and do not recognize assets or liabilities on the Consolidated Statements of Financial Condition. The securities pledged as collateral under these transactions are included within the total amount of Financial instruments owned and noted as Securities pledged on our Consolidated Statements of Financial Condition.

 

According to Jefferies’ most recent Annual Report it had re-hypothecated $22.3 billion (in fair value) of assets in 2011 including government debt, asset backed securities, derivatives and corporate equity- that’s just $15 billion shy of Jefferies total on balance sheet assets of $37 billion.

Oh Jefferies, Jefferies, Jefferies. Barely did you manage to escape the gauntlet of accusation of untenable gross (if not net) sovereign exposure, that you will soon, potentially as early as tomorrow, have to defend your zany rehypothecation practices. One wonders: will Sean Egan downgrade you for this latest transgression as well? All the better for Leucadia though: one more million shares that Dick Handler can sell to Ian Cumming.

Yet Jefferies is just the beginning. It gets much, much worse.

With weak collateral rules and a level of leverage that would make Archimedes tremble, firms have been piling into re-hypothecation activity with startling abandon. A review of filings reveals a staggering level of activity in what may be the world’s largest ever credit bubble.

 

Engaging in hyper-hypothecation have been Goldman Sachs ($28.17 billion re-hypothecated in 2011), Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce (re-pledged $72 billion in client assets), Royal Bank of Canada (re-pledged $53.8 billion of $126.7 billion available for re-pledging), Oppenheimer Holdings ($15.3 million), Credit Suisse (CHF 332 billion), Knight Capital Group ($1.17 billion),Interactive Brokers ($14.5 billion), Wells Fargo ($19.6 billion), JP Morgan($546.2 billion) and Morgan Stanley ($410 billion).

And people were wondering why looking through the balance sheet of Canadian banks revealed no alert signals. It is because all the exposure was off the books! Hundreds of billions of dollars worth. As for JPM and MS amounting to nearly a trillion in rehypothecation... well, we are confident the market will be delighted to start pricing that particular fat-tail risk as soon as tomorrow.

Yet it is Reuters' conclusion that strikes home, and is identical to what we said last night about the liquidity lock up in Europe and what it means for the shadow banking system, although from the perspective of an inverted cause and effect:

The volume and level of re-hypothecation suggests a frightening alternative hypothesis for the current liquidity crisis being experienced by banks and for why regulators around the world decided to step in to prop up the markets recently. 

That's precisely right: the shadow banking system, so aptly named because its death rattle can never be seen out in the open, is slowly dying. As noted yesterday. But lest we be accused of hyperventilating, this time we will leave a respected, non-fringe media to bring out the big adjective guns:

To date, reports have been focused on how Eurozone default concerns were provoking fear in the markets and causing liquidity to dry up....Most have been focused on how a Eurozone default would result in huge losses in Eurozone bonds being felt across the world’s banks. However, re-hypothecation suggests an even greater fear. Considering that re-hypothecation may have increased the financial footprint of Eurozone bonds by at least four fold then a Eurozone sovereign default could be apocalyptic.

 

U.S. banks direct holding of sovereign debt is hardly negligible. According to the Bank for International Settlements (BIS), U.S. banks hold $181 billion in the sovereign debt of Greece, Ireland, Italy, Portugal and Spain. If we factor in off-balance sheet transactions such as re-hypothecations and repos, then the picture becomes frightening.

And there you have it: in this world where distraction and diversion often times is the only name of the game, while banks were pretending to have issues with their traditional liabilities, it was really the shadow liabilities where the true terrors were accumulating. Because in what has become a veritable daisy chain of linked shadow exposure, we are now back where we started with the AIG collapse, only this time the regime is decentralized, without the need for a focal, AIG-type center. What this means is that the collapse of the weakest link in the daisy-chain sets off a house of cards that eventually will crash even the biggest entity due to exponentially soaring counterparty risk: an escalation best comparable to an avalanche - where one simple snowflake can result in a deadly tsunami of snow that wipes out everything in its path. Only this time it is not something as innocuous as snow: it is the compounded effect of trillions and trillions of insolvent banks all collapsing at the same time, and wiping out the developed world and the associated 150 years of the welfare state as we know it.

In this light, it makes far more sense why, as we suggested yesterday, the sanest central bank in Europe, the German Bundesbank, is quietly making stealthy preparations to get the hell out of Dodge, as it realizes all too well, that the snowflake has arrived: MF Global's bankruptcy has already set off a chain of events which not even all the world's central banks can halt. Which is ironic for the Buba - what it is doing is "too little too late." But at least it is taking proactive steps. For all the other central banks in the Eurozone, and soon the world, unfortunately the deer in headlights image is the only applicable one. And all because of unbridled greed, bribed and corrupt regulators sleeping at their job, and governments which encourage the TBTF modus operandi as the only fall back one, which in turn gave banks a carte blanche to take essentially unlimited risk.

We are all about to suffer the consequences of all three.

 

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Thu, 12/08/2011 - 08:02 | 1957766 Ghordius
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Damn, Tyler, you are too early according to my expectations! You are breaking the UK story too early! Why can't you just wait until the EUR has reached 1.3000?

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The UK story - (starting with the British Press going wild since November about the EZ) with the highlights:

- about how the City of London has a special charter that make it a separate part of the realm (including a "minder" of the status in Parliament)

- how bank-heavy, mortgage-heavy, financial liabilities-heavy, leveraged it is (just touched here)

- how lax regulations are (just touched here) - Mr. King is already asking for dictatorial powers of regulation from Parliament ("If I don't like the way you bank, you are out" - his words he wants to be able to say)

- how fragile the British Pound is (which could bury the "small currency is beautiful" meme currently cursing around) - again Mr. King is preparing for a big storm

- and, of course, the little thing that by British Law all swans belong to the Queen, be them black or white

Tyler, you are too early! You really want to be the first of the pack, eh? ;-!

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 08:08 | 1957779 Sandmann
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City of London has a special charter

 

with its own strange little Police Force and its own funny practices

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 23:45 | 1961761 pods
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Yep, and the BOE and a big old building for the Rothschilds too.

pods

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 12:30 | 1958875 Girl Trader
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There's a great discussion of the City of London and its status in Treasure Islands by Nicholas Shaxson.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 16:25 | 1960245 Cathartes Aura
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I've said it before, and it still rings true for me - those who arrange the game pieces over centuries have no boundaries, no nationstate imaginary lines to restrict their movements, be it body or fiat or resources. . .

the City of London has a special charter that makes it a separate part of the realm

of course it does, it's like the "district of columbia" is to amrka, a place where the "laws" don't apply to those who are privy to the hidden corporate agendas.

it's already a global "world" and nationstates are fictions we are schooled to believe in, and to fear stepping out of line - "the City of London" is the global banking headquarters, and amrka does the resource theft and "law" enforcement via global military (how many nationstates does amrka occupy? *ponder*). . .

once your mind embraces this, many other things make perfect sense.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 23:46 | 1961763 pods
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In the 10 ring as always CA!

pods

Sat, 12/24/2011 - 11:07 | 2009100 dizzyfingers
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"amrka does the resource theft and "law" enforcement via global military (how many nationstates does amrka occupy? *ponder*)"

Been thinking A LOT about this very thing... must never allow US kids to leave the homeland again, it's bad for the country when the brightest and best are sent to die somewhere else rather than live and take part in the society here. Think about it folks, if anything is counterproductive, it's the military.

"WAR IS GOOD FOR BUSINESS: INVEST YOUR SON" ...OR YOUR DAUGHTER...OR BOTH!! (please cut, past, and pass this on)

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 15:58 | 1960128 Mauibrad
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The Congressional hearing today is a big jerk off.  Has even one Congressman or Corzine even mentioned Re-Hypothecation?  They are talking all around it without talking about the known problem.  This is why these things happen and don't get solved, Congress are a Bunch of Dumba$$e$!

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 18:53 | 1961013 CompassionateFascist
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No, they are all invested in the same Ponzi. And theyll ride it to the bitter end.

Sun, 12/11/2011 - 13:03 | 1967589 LeonardoFibonacci
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Erect the gallows, lads.  Once a century or so, it becomes obvious its time to use them again.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 19:42 | 1961143 WhiteNight123129
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDFFHaz9GsY

is actually more appropriate, dies irae, Verdi

 

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 20:22 | 1961274 non_anon
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ah, napalm, the smell of victory

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBksHaTQCbU

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 21:02 | 1961363 URZIZMINE
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This is why Jon C  can't find the cash. He hasn't read his own companies "investment agreements"

 

Sun, 12/11/2011 - 20:05 | 1968579 Freewheelin Franklin
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Best if read with this playing:

 

 

No. This

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRwwUZLV-IE 

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 00:12 | 1957214 High Plains Drifter
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 canuuks took a bite on this shit sandwich? tell me its not so...........

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 00:15 | 1957220 ISEEIT
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Fair disclosure.

Do not panic and ASS-ume that this is D-day. ZH is a public service. Tyler explains your future. He has not/ does not proffer timing. We are in general fucked. The average and typical human is likely to have a life that sucks with possible random good fortune.

Plan accordingly and know the game you are playing.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 00:20 | 1957232 Cursive
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@ISEEIT

House of cards waiting to fold at the slightest breeze. Wait for it....

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 01:25 | 1957399 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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They folded.  What you are seeing is a hologram.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 02:23 | 1957510 Zadok
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Hey Cursive, nice avatar!

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 05:03 | 1957664 Deo vindice
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Well, as they say...

"Two heads are better than one"

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 00:16 | 1957223 DormRoom
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I'm still pissed the Fed loaned out 7.7 Trillion @ 0.5% to the big banks and bought back @ 3%.  ECB is probably going to do the same.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 00:18 | 1957228 Starving Artist
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Actually they only loaned about $1.2 trillion IIRC. I think 7.7 was the secret program cap.

 

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 00:25 | 1957234 DormRoom
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still, underwater home owners can't get a deal like that from their bank.  It's just really irritating to know that the system rewarded the thieves, and miscreants while honest ppl continue to suffer.

 

Still no arrests, as school boards shut down schools, and shorten the school year because of the economic fall out.  They've stolen the future of so many.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 01:26 | 1957403 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Yeah, yeah, Bernanke apologizes.  What is he to do?

And the trillions, multiply by 10 for fractional reserve lending.  Fiat Ponzi.  Booyah, Jim!

Sat, 12/24/2011 - 10:58 | 2009092 dizzyfingers
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..."shut down schools"

Everyone in every community where that's happening paid for those schools and should reopen them and teach in the classrooms. Guess what they should teach -- current events, only, all day everyday, pointing out every change as our society decays because of central banksters, so that every child cannot but help see it for what it is. That's the way to fix what's broken -- teach the children all about it RIGHT NOW before they escape into society with empty heads and no perception of what is happening and why.

If someone had done that for my generation.... oh how different things would...well, might...be.

Get out there, people -- occupy those government schools.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 00:21 | 1957236 navy62802
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Correct. This was pointed out in Bloomberg's rebuttal to the Bernanke's criticism yesterday.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 00:22 | 1957238 Tyler Durden
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When you get a $1 billion revolver from the bank, it is still a 1 billion revolver (as in committed capital) even if you just use $0.01 of it.

In other words, the bank (or the Fed in this case), has put $1 billion at risk ($7.7 trillion in this case).

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 00:32 | 1957271 Melin
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What I never understand is why the incredible corruption is blamed on sleepy regulators with too few regulatory tools at their disposal.  If only there were more regulators and regulations, we'd finally get that "free market" we're pining for, right?

Get government out of the economy.  It's not possible to have free markets and government regulators just like it's not possible to have your cake and eat it too.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 00:41 | 1957298 Tyler Durden
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It is not about regulation. What it is about is perverting the incentives of risk and reward. If failure is an option, there is no need for regulation. If failure is impossible, such as now, regulators merely aid and abet the death of pure capitalism.

But you are right: the less intervention, the purer the capital markets. Unfortunately, for a rent-seeking behemoth of a government (such as the one we have now which issued $100 billion in debt every two weeks), the only stable source of under the table revenue (read "lobby" or bribes) is the financial regime.

Which also is the government's handy scapegoat when things turn rough.

It is not Wall Street's fault government has become a monster, and more importantly, a monster which the people have let usurp all power in exchange for promises of (insolvent) welfare payments and mind numbing primetime TV.

What OccupyWallStreet and the rest have to realize is that while Wall Street is a symptom of all that is broken and flawed in modern society the cause, the real cause, is us.

But it is always easiest to point fingers...

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 00:55 | 1957328 High Plains Drifter
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yes it is our fault. the buck stops here as they say.  we fell asleep on the walls of the city and the enemy walked in. we are responsible. citizenship is a terrible burden , one that most amerikans do not wish to carry......when good men remain silent, evil flourishes.   we see now in the high places incarnate evil. evil men flourish and do what they want.  now they won't listen to us anymore. there is no redress of grievances. none. they do what they want when they want.  so it is. so it has been and so it will be.....

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 01:32 | 1957414 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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It is more than that.  We are cheering the evil man on as he destroys our city.  We are mad.  Mad on Fluoride, meth, and soda pop.  We got high off of the Pusherman's delivery, and we are addicted to the madness.  There is nowhere else to run, so now we laugh and laugh our balls off.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 01:35 | 1957425 SillySalesmanQu...
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+ 100 HPD Well said...

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 05:43 | 1957672 Element
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Tyler,

Wall Street is just a lowly parasite eeking out a misery-creating 'living' within Rothschild's central banking butt-crack.

We have it on record that the Rothschild's always intended to create central banks which lend to Govt, especially and particularly to Govt, specifically to capture a political system and national finances, to milk the country dry. Who watches the watchers if the Govt is regulator and also the biggest client?

That's how this whole game got rolling.

All that's different this time, is the TBTFs created massive private debts first, via central bank policy, with a dupe's (GW Bush) nod-and-wink, then they bought down Lehman's via shorting it, to get a 'systemic crisis', then the Govt of GWB took Hank Paulson's Henny-Penny demand and turned these deliberately created unrepayable private debts on BANK balance sheets, into public debt obligations on the taxpayer's balance sheet.

This is the kind of debt with direct political and systemic strings and which the really big boys who own the central banks LOVE to milk to death.

Private debt just means the bank is porked if you default.

Public debt can be bled dry for decades

(so no, they will not actually want any sort of political Frau Merkelesque EU intervention or treaty where deficits don't grow larger than REAL GDP, so they'll ensure this does not come about politically, or succeed if it does--it's still print or snuff for eurolande)

So the real trick is to force govt to keep borrowing and selling assets for penny's on their printed $$$.

Govt is the sucker, the paid dupe and the traitor, yes, oh yes, but the Govt is not the criminal mastermind behind it all.

Look deeper into the butt-crack and you'll find who is ... (though best to not point a finger still).

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 09:36 | 1957982 SWRichmond
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So the real trick is to force govt to keep borrowing and selling assets for penny's on their printed $$$.

Asset-stripping the taxpayer.  Exactly.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 22:43 | 1961573 SWRichmond
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Tyler: Reposting by popular demand, and because everyone has to understand the embedded risks in this market, courtesy of the shadow banking system.

This article is a great one, and is one everyone should read.  I'm sending to everyone who hasn't pissed me off lately.

Sat, 12/24/2011 - 10:50 | 2009085 dizzyfingers
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"deeper into the butt-crack'

Facts is facts.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=25080

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 00:56 | 1957333 Zadok
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+100 green arrows for you Tyler!

Can we also dispense with the articles that seem to have the premise that the Federal Reserve is trying to do good but...?

The enemy is us, unfortunately the 'us' is a bit loosely termed because I don't recall hearing much of what needed to be said, nor have I supported in any way what has happened.  

However, I am enduring the consequences of this reality.  

 

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 01:09 | 1957359 Zadok
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Can we dispense with one more thing, technical analysis in the context of utterly manipulated markets.  We might as well have a water witch cross the wires over the Bernank's head to discern the future of the market.  Manipulation of the market is to make it do something it would not otherwise do, that negates the very purpose of technical analysis which is to discern what the markets will do.  

In the absence of agreement on this, I will just resort to ignoring nonsense.  

Sorry, may be a bit off topic.  

Good article, thought provoking and interesting new information.

Thanks ZH.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 01:09 | 1957366 Tyler Durden
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People enjoy the illusion of control that patterns provide.

Hence charts.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 01:27 | 1957405 CvlDobd
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I see a lot of charts here.

I use charts but I do not believe they have any predictive value. Just risk to reward setups. Markets are gonna do whatever TPTB want. I just try to lower the risk with the chart when entering a position.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 01:39 | 1957426 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Knowing the manipulation makes reading charts easy.  If you know when they like to sell (like yesterday) then you know when they will sell.  I will explain:

When you see the price of the Trinity drop (gold/silver/platinum) in unison, equitie will follow.  Easy trade; it has worked since before the Flash Crash.

When you see the Trinity rise in unison, equity will rise.  It has worked since the "Spring" of '09.  Easy trade.

Get some.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 05:07 | 1957667 Deo vindice
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We're really in uncharted waters. Who has a chart for that?

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 23:34 | 1961721 Calmyourself
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I use and understand charts to know what happened their predictive value has become null..

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 01:34 | 1957421 giddy
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...that's if one only sees established patterns... true analytics is seeing things anew... can't put new wine into old bottles... or 2011 data into 2006 models...

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 09:29 | 1957957 I am a Man I am...
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That's awesome.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 09:00 | 1957883 flattrader
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I don't know which of the Tylers is "speaking" right now, but I'll assume it is the "well-conditioned" Tyler.

I know the the predator class has completed its work when they get us to blame ourselves.

Yes, if we blame the victim, the perp ultimately walks free.

 

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 15:37 | 1960038 Totentänzerlied
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He who cannot command shall obey. The people refuse to command thus they obey. Our masters know the wisdom of these words, and we live the result.

That a victim is not always innocent is no contradiction, particularly when the victims outnumber their attackers by many orders of magnitude.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 00:59 | 1957344 Schmuck Raker
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[guilty]

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 01:09 | 1957365 wandstrasse
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the cause, the real cause, is us.

normally it is blatant sycophancy to support arguments of the boss, but this time I simply HAVE TO. The root cause for all this mess is a population (including myself) which exchanged artificial wealth (out of the debt printing press) for their future and their freedom. Both is lost now. How conscious was the population about what happened? How conscious could they/we have been, 20,30,40 years ago? I have no idea.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 03:11 | 1957579 OldPhart
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I was more comatose than concious over the last thirty years.  However, I was always someone who had little fondness for credit and paying interest.  I'm 52 and got my actual first credit card about seven years ago.  Up until the debit card system I paid cash direct or bought a twenty-five cent money order.

In my twenties my caution was reinforced when others convinced me to use travelers checks on a trip.  Trying to get those suckers accepted without making a $20 purchase was virtually impossible.  It ruined the trip and cured me of the use.

I bought my first actual new car at the age of 35, at a fixed rate, at a payment I could afford.  I bought a house with $0 down, for $75k in 1998 at 7.5% fixed 30 year.  At the close I wound up getting $1,500 in cash somehow.  Since then I've never pulled equity, couldn't even conceive of it, never refinanced, never did much at all.  My payment with principal, interest and insurance runs less than $750 a month.  I have no second, and have been paying $800 to $1000 per month to bring down the cost of interest as fast as possible.

We've never bought big boy toys.  Didn't buy our first computer until the prices had dropped into the hundreds of dollars instead of thousands.  And didn't buy the kids video games until those prices had dropped quite a bit, too.  When we did buy we paid cash or used the debit card cash equivalent.

My 2005 car was paid off early by paying more than required.  The 1948 truck was a gift from my dad (since it's what I learned to drive in), my youngest son was given a truck by his grandparents as they retired to cruise the world.  My oldest son has had the luck of Midas due to skill, hard work, dedication, and taking advantage of legitimate opportunities his character opened up.

I purposefully took a job near home, foregoing about $50k annually, so I could do things I wanted with those I want to be with.  I live like I make less than $40k per year though I make about half as much more because that's how we've been living since I was 18.

We are, and will always be, considered the white trash in the neighborhood because we have little concern for image.  My front yard is desert sand, literally, because I don't want to pay to water grass. 

Last time I peeked out the backdoor the backyard was a mess of tumbleweeds, dried up sticks and random shit blown in. 

We use a wood fireplace for heat because I can get through the winter with three and half cords of wood that costs $500 if I buy all at once.  Otherwise I'd be shelling out $12k to replace the internal AC/heater.  In the summer we use fans and open windows to cool off.  Granted, it gets miserable around 120 degrees...but it's a dry heat.

As my mother in law was dying I checked into a HELOC for emergency use.  They wouldn't even consider it for the relatively tiny amount I was asking for.  During the years that banks were throwing credit at people in the form of home refi's I'd occassionally waste somebody's time getting into the details of the loans they proposed.  Around 2005 my $75k home had a 'value' exceeding $360k.  I just wanted to transfer my outstanding principal and pay a lower interest rate.  They wanted me to draw a minimum of $20k out and I'd get 6% interest.  No deal.

Now my house has a 'value' of about $100k, realistically sell for $75k, and I owe around $43k (citimortage played around quite a bit with my extra payments until I started paying attention).

The point is we weren't extravagant, we didn't borrow excessively, we bought a home to live in not as an investment, and we plodded along unglamourously until we are one of the few families here surrounded by a sea of foreclosures.

AND IT WAS ALL DUMB LUCK. 

We had no strategy.  We couldn't figure out how people half our age were able to afford a house, cars, toys, big screen TV's, etc.  Made us feel bad about ourselves for the longest time and even had marital strife over it.  In short, we were comatose for twenty five years or so.  And what we did see confused the shit out of us.  It just didn't seem right somehow.

The bail out early in 2008 (forget who it was) shook me to groggy conciousness.  The bail out at the end of 2008 was a bucket of ice water on my back.  I woke up and was pretty pissed about being woken up that way.  Since then I've been trying to learn all the stuff I tried to avoid.

I've been to countless websites every night, initially jumping inand arguing only to get my ass handed to me, neatly, for being a dumb-ass.  Then I started listening and learning and paying attention.

Of all the sites I've been to, countless times, since November 2008 the quality of commenters, contributors, and the moderator, Tyler, blew me away with the depth of obvious depth of knowledge and the level of arguments made.  I lurk here throughout the day and most of the night.

At the moment I have three loans to be paid off.  The mortgage and two student loans.  One of which will be paid off next Friday, the other has about $1,200 left and I'll start applying the paid off loans payment to it in addition.  So that should be done around June.  Then those payments will be added to the mortgage.

According to the original amortization schedule, my mortgage balance puts it into somewhere in 2017.  My next goal is to start pushing actual monthly payments ahead rather than just pay down principle.  If I make two or three additional full payments per year, that gives me an increasing buffer in case something happens.  Citimortage doesn't care what the principal balance is (well, they do because they want to steal my equity), they only care that monthly payments are accounted for.

I am a financial dumbass. 

All the products, structures, abbreviations, returns, ratios...are all the equivalent of my five years of spanish back in the Stone Age.  Familiar, misty, often garbled and long forgotten.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 04:25 | 1957636 Raymond Reason
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Sounds to me like a life well lived.  Your legacy is your children.  And they'll be there for you, as you were for them. 

Sat, 12/24/2011 - 10:23 | 2009068 dizzyfingers
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"...(kids) they'll be there for you...

You're kidding, right?! Wow, head in sand.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 05:42 | 1957684 Sandmann
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My 2005 car was paid off early by paying more than required

 

but you live in a country where everyone else has a "Yugo Loan" !

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 09:18 | 1957931 Ruffcut
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It is the interpetation of freedom. Neighbors bitch at you because your nonlawn bothers them. I have a couple acres and front is neat but the lawn sucks and even my wife wants to put in paver bricks and shit. WTF for? for drive byers to say "nice landscaping"???

Too many people worship the wrong things in life. They are easily misdirected.  JUst look how fucked up Christmas is. "Give me, give me, buy me, buy me". Just a bunch of bugs, chasing their tails. What you gonna do when you finally catch it?

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 22:05 | 1961503 chubbar
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Nice story. Do your family a favor and take some of that extra money and make sure you have a month of everything you need to live for a month without any outside contact. A paid off house isn't any good without food and water. Also have some spare cash hidden somewhere close by. I'm sure you've read the drill a couple thousand times here on TD if you have been lurking for any period of time. Just make sure you do it, soon.

Sat, 12/24/2011 - 10:35 | 2009074 dizzyfingers
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" I was always someone who had little fondness for credit and paying interest."

Great post. Lots of people out here in the realityworld are like you (...like us) but don't blog or have much interest in explaining themselves to strangers. We always lived two levels below our means, and it has paid off for us. We continue to live frugally, pay no attention to what others are doing or how they're living -- why should we, we're satisfied with our lives. So glad to know you're here. Your story is a template for a fulfilled life. It's what the majority used to do, and to be, before the 60s.

Sat, 12/24/2011 - 10:40 | 2009076 dizzyfingers
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"the cause, the real cause...

Agree. People noticed but did nothing productive about the problems (in fact, encouraged them) -- too much music, drugs, dancing, tv, and all the rest that inevitably followed that superceded a modest American Dream of home ownership, a car, a moral life, and food on the table.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 01:17 | 1957381 azusgm
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I've got to disagree just a bit. Yes, we have allowed our power as the people to be usurped. But no, it has not all been because of the promise of more and more .gov handouts. My friends and family members have allowed the government to go astray because we expected other people to behave in as fair, ethical, and responsible manner as we would have if put into the same positions. We were wrong but for the right reasons.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 04:14 | 1957629 Raymond Reason
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My dad voted Republican for years, along with my mom, and then i....and hell, most of our friends.    And it was for one reason.  The Grand Old Party was supposed to represent conservatism.  To conserve rather than to spend.  But they took our votes, and were even more profligate than the Liberals.   Most good people have been against this shit for a long time.  I believe it's nearly impossible for the People to control a robust government in the prime of it's life.   The only way it can be killed is to let it kill itself, and ultimately they all do.  Merry Christmas. 

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 23:45 | 1961685 T1000
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When you vote for someone and they promise to do X, and then when they are in office they do Y, how is that our fault? What kind of fucking bullshit argument is that? 

All we want is the leaders to do what we vote for them to do, and yet, at every turn, they sell out citizens and vote for the corporations. Fuck that.

I respect zerohedge and Tyler a great deal, but this blame the people for corruption and mafia rule is bullshit. 

I don't know if this is coordinated, but the web bot guy came out with the same bullshit article http://www.halfpasthuman.com/grace.html

I think some how in an attempt to assuage their personal egos due to the fact that they are powerless to stop this mafia controlled nightmare, their minds come up with the argument that they had the actual power all along, and thus, "I did this".  Sounds like bullshit psyops to me. 

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 23:58 | 1961796 pods
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Well, I think that HPD meant it is our fault due to lack of vigilance keeping government bottled withing its only duties, nothing more.

But, it IS our fault because this fractional reserve nightmare CANNOT exist without US creating credit money.

It would all collapse tomorrow if enough people were to forego credit.

It has to expand or implode.  And we have the power to control it.

BTW, your first mistake is that the people you vote for are there for you.

They represent the corporation.

pods

Fri, 12/09/2011 - 00:34 | 1961871 T1000
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"BTW, your first mistake is that the people you vote for are there for you."

That's not a mistake, that's the foundation of civilization. If you don't have trust, you do not have society, period. If it's every man for himself and trust no one, that society is already dead.

I agree with you that we have fallen asleep, but to put the blame on us is not correct. When someone breaks the social trust and violates it, then it is THEIR fault, not ours. Yes, we will suffer for it, but to lay the blame on those that did not violate the social trust is ridiculous on its face.

We've been had, we've been bamboozled and hoodwinked, but let's lay the blame where it is due, at the hands of the thieves themselves, not at the trust of society. 

Their nefarious actions are their own. 

 

 

Fri, 12/09/2011 - 03:14 | 1962076 tumblemore
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agree. if it was us they wouldn't need thousands of lobbyists to bribe the politicians to change the regulations. the banking crime families own the sins of commision in this. we own the sins of omission in not paying attention to what they were doing till it was too late.

Sat, 12/24/2011 - 09:43 | 2009048 dizzyfingers
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"Their nefarious actions are their own. "

Perhaps, but legislators do what people want them to do. Instead of thinking they are unresponsive, think about their being too responsive. There is such a thing when so many people live in a country and all want to get theirs -- and there are very few who want nothing at all.

It IS our fault we have let legislators change, tweak, and re-tweak laws that are the foundations of this fount of gold called USA.

Sat, 12/24/2011 - 09:45 | 2009049 dizzyfingers
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"It would all collapse tomorrow if enough people were to forego credit."

And there is the off/on switch, fellow citizens. Use it.

Sat, 12/24/2011 - 09:52 | 2009052 dizzyfingers
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"All WE want is the leaders to do what we vote for them to do"

There is no universal WE... everyone voting wants something different and imagines something different (than politicians mean when they make promises)...

Therefore when we vote, we also vote for everyone else's desires, and you see what we get.

It may be time to radically change the system -- at the very least perhaps withhold a significant percentage of congressional pay and link it to the same shifty investment schemes it turns out they are foisting on us by bending over for banks and corporations so that We The People can take it up the... well, need I go on? So if legislators mess up they'll be shooting themselves in the foot too -- and no bailouts for them.

Surely someone here at zh could come up with a plan for pay/benefit program for congress that would be as risky for them as ours out here in the real world is for us.

Sat, 12/24/2011 - 10:03 | 2009057 dizzyfingers
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"But they took our votes, and were even more profligate than the Liberals. "

Cogently explained here:

America's Ruling Class -- And the Perils of Revolution 

http://spectator.org/archives/2010/07/16/americas-ruling-class-and-the#

Sat, 12/24/2011 - 10:17 | 2009060 dizzyfingers
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"My friends and family members have allowed the government to go astray because we expected other people to behave in as fair, ethical, and responsible manner as we would have if put into the same positions. We were wrong but for the right reasons."

 

Don't know you age and am not asking, but I've been voting since Nixon and with every new administration everything has got worse and worse, working people (with small salaries and large) paid more and more for a group of non-working others to be able to crook their fingers at government and live free off the labor of others as no "poor" people ever have lived before. We DID know it was happening. NO ONE didn't notice. And during that time congress, bankers, corporations consolidated their power, abused the public and stole the wealth of the nation, and we noticed that too. Don't believe it wasn't noticed.

Those for whom we perennially voted paid no attention to whether we liked it or not, they were intent on pleasing those who paid their bills and pulled their strings. Read THE FEDERAL RESERVE CARTEL: THE EIGHT FAMILIES. The first several pragraphs tell the whole terrifying story. Forget about "the stock market" or any other market; it all belongs to the same people. "Belief" in ethical and fair isn't enough and isn't an excuse -- no matter the belief, WE DID SEE AND KNOW WHAT WAS HAPPENING.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 01:17 | 1957382 alagon
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What do you mean by "us"? Could you be more specific? I personally blame the generation called baby-boomers. They wanted EVERYTHING! Gen X and Gen Y are completely screwed, IMO.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 03:59 | 1957621 sleepingbeauty
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I think I am a gen x-er and I know enough to know that humans are humans and the ones born 20 years ahead of me are not any better nor any worse. Although they should be collectively shot for the disco music in the 70s. We all want more than we have. It is the human condition.

If you don't think that you do then either you should be cannonized or you are lying to yourself.

Fri, 12/09/2011 - 00:01 | 1961800 pods
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The easiest way to get nowhere is to start pointing fingers at each other.

pods

(GenXer)

Sat, 12/24/2011 - 10:21 | 2009067 dizzyfingers
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"... the generaiton called baby-boomers"...

We all have been in it together, but yes, boomers were party animals from their first breaths... and the world certainly has revolved around them, and though you don't mention it, they control many levers of power. So...what shall we do about that?

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 01:31 | 1957413 Misean
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So if my soul is rehypothecated for a Subway sandwich and I eat the Subway sandwich, it's my fault...like a butterfly flapping it's wings in Tokyo?

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 01:41 | 1957418 Timmay
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Isn't the REAL cause Capitalism?  If Capitalism is money seeking the highest returns, and Wall Street is the Broker for the "exchange", then Capitalism has reached its' ultimate end. Paying off Politicians to change laws, look the other way and create mountains of debt to "redistribute" to the people IS getting the highest rate of return... for the banks. The banks are first in line in creating money and thus can use it at will to create more and more money. 

The realization we have today is that all the "assets" they created are really "debts" and that there are not enough people on earth for the next 1,000 years to repay them.

Capitalism worked. It overwhelmed the system and chased the absolute highest returns that it could.... until it blew up.

So, in my estimation, we are departing from Capitalism and beginning the final phases of locking in status, wealth, opportunity for those at the "top" through a system of new "laws" and edicts. All done in the name of preventing something like this from happening again. That sucks.

Perhaps this is "Minskyish" to say, but perhaps the best way to move forward is to let the system go bust, institute the "old" rules that were originally put in place to stop this from happening but were systematically torn down over time, and start the entire process of undoing the rules all over again in the quest for higher and higher returns. True, we created things like CDS and CDO and synthetic financial this or that rather than curing Cancer or finding a new energy source, etc. But let's face it, improving the world or advancing the human race does not pay, but enriching yourself does. So be it.

The alternative is simply freedom. But, we are at the point where the "smart" capital (read CROOKS) have worked their way to the top and have accumulated a significant amount of power and must maintain the status quo at the expense of everyone else to remain there under the cover of "LAW".

Perhaps we can propose a compromise?, the vast majority will allow the CROOKS to keep some recognition of "being wealthy" relative to everyone else in the reformed system in exchange for allowing the rest of the system to collapse and reform. We (rest of us) start from scratch and the newest generation of the intellegent amoung us can conjure up new ways to manipulate the system and defraud the masses and bring a few of us along for the ride to lead "comfortable" lives. Let the newer generation of Crooks lie, cheat, defraud and buy their way to the top to create a new "reality" for the rest of us for a while.... until that blows up too. Repeat. What is so bad with having bread and circuses?? It's food AND I'm entertained. 

What else are we going to do? If we aren't going to come together as a race and focus energy to explore space or discover new civilizations on distant planets, or understand what the previous ones on this planet were really all about it's just a circle jerk. Wake up, work, eat, play, sleep, have children, teach them the cycle, die. Repeat.

It seems the problem is that this fraud has reached the levels of the absurd. Common folk are now beginning to understand how ridiculous it really is and that speeds up the cycle of destruction for those at the top (see bank runs Greece). We need the fraud at a level where the majority of people still think it is an "honest" system and we will be "okay" with that. Perhaps a small group of people will know what's really going on but elect to keep quiet until such time as the new Fraud becomes too absurd to stay quiet (Zerohedge) and will begin "waking the people". 

Let's be GREEDY, but not THAT GREEDY.

It's a compromise, not perfect but in reality it was nice not knowing what was going on for a while there. Cypher was right, steak DOES taste good even if in reality a machine is just telling your brain that.

Let the people of Zion live in reality in exchange for letting the rest of the people CHOOSE to live in the Matrix and forget. When the Matrix gets out of balance and becomes corrupted, the vigilant wake up the sleeping masses to address the problem, destroy that version, create a new one and go back to sleep (those that wish to).

Honestly, what else are we going to do??

 

 

 

 

 

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 01:53 | 1957448 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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I wish I could have read all that you wrote, because you write well.  Unfortunately you are not giving capitalism its due.  Here is why:

You mistake the fact that politics took advantage of it.  Capitalism is a theory, not an absolute.  We can utilize it, making it work, but the theory will never be an absolute, only a function of our actions.  Politics is an absolute, and politics took advantage of the system.

Capitalism is what we make of it.  It is an idea.  When certain people manipulate it, it becomes something else. 

We are not dealing with capitalism now, it is more fascism.  When politics are controlled by corporations, then it bastardizes the theory of gain.

This is like how Tyler, above, says we are to blame.  We need not blame the theory, but how we use the theory.  We need to look at who we are and what we have done to change how we run our system, because then the system can find its true nature.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 02:22 | 1957509 Caviar Emptor
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Some say fascism is just an advanced form of capitalism: state-supported monopolies, privately owned. Our system has certainly been sliding in that direction. 

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:23 | 1959230 BigJim
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Anyone who says this needs to think about what they mean by 'capitalism'.

Capitalism per se exists in all politico-economic systems that use excess capital, ie, any society more advanced than nomadic hunter-gatherers.

Capitalism exists in Communist economies - it's just that the employment of excess capital is controlled directly by the government, with no price-discovery mechanism.

Fascism is very similar, except the government are ostensibly working with private companies. But price discovery is still being masked, for the same reason.

'Capitalism' really should mean free-market direction of the employment of capital, subject to an impartial government that punishes (and thus prevents) fraud and force. Capitalism, by that definition, has nothing to do with fascism.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 22:34 | 1961555 blunderdog
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Sort of--but eventually capitalism overwhelms government completely.  What we've got today gets called "fascism" or "communism" or anything bad like that, but it's just late-stage capitalism.

The people have not yet accepted that things like democracy and freedom and such are just buzzwords that you use to keep them working and paying for things, so as not to get the idea they can manage their own affairs.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 23:24 | 1961681 DaveyJones
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sliding like an avalanche

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 04:04 | 1957622 sleepingbeauty
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Most political systems work well on paper, but introduce humans and SHTF. I think communism is a great system on paper but humans are not noble enough to work together to meet a mutual goal. We want more than others or we want to work less than others. And capitalism induces us to be greedy-guts.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 09:56 | 1958052 BeerBrewer09
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Edit:

Most political systems work well on paper, but introduce MONEY and SHTF.

Money is the root of all evil and produces predatory incentive within our society. Eliminate money and the incentive changes, to a world in which those who give most to their society feel the most reward. The current vampires & squids are not at fault for their behavior, it is the entire system (read: society) itself that is to blame for it's self-destructive, predatory, decaying ways.

Read up on your Fresco, Krishnamurti, Sagan.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 13:28 | 1959261 BigJim
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Sorry, without money, any society more advanced than nomadic hunter-gatherers cannot function. Because without money, capital projects and price-discovery cannot happen.

As for those who give most to society 'feeling' the most reward, such subjective, emotion-based rewards are entirely possible within any monetary system.

Maybe you should read up on your Mises and Hayek.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 18:50 | 1961006 Dr. Acula
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>Money is the root of all evil

How can something that facilitates indirect exchange and lifts the masses out of miserable poverty be "evil"? The average person now lives in ways that the kings of old could only dream of.

And if money is "evil", there is no means to permanently eliminate money from society, apart from violent abolition enforced by gangs of thugs, which might also be considered "evil". Even if eliminated, money will spring up spontaneously. There is always a most marketable good which people will seek to facilitate their exchanges.

 

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 18:51 | 1960994 Dr. Acula
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>communism is a great system on paper but humans are not noble enough to work together to meet a mutual goal

No. Even angels could not get it to work. There is no means to rationally allocate resources or rationally direct production without a functioning price system.

See Ludwig von Mises's arguments from the 1920's on the economic calculation problem.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 01:40 | 1957433 orwell6
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Look, what difference does it make?  They are only numbers. Need money...need capital because of some arcane rule somewhere, passed by someone?  Who cares?  Crisis time, just call Bennie.  

It should be clear. There is no discipline in the system. There are no limits. It is just a bookkeeping game.

Crisis?  Just add digits to the loan.  Repayment?  Extend credit for 50 years, or more.

There is no crisis. It is time to lever-up, borrow, and go long. Save the world. Employ people. Go solar. Become sustainable. Borrow more.............and more.

There are no problems.  Dow 13900 by January 1.  We're all winners. It was just a technical aberration.

Y'all been ignoring Kudlow too long!

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 01:57 | 1957465 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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It doesn't work that way.  Look at how many trillions are in the system, ($250) and think about average wage for Americans.  Then cosider aver age wage of the rest of the world.  Then think about how the aggregate is going to chase the wealth.  They aren't.

The carrot is too heavy for the machine to carry, and the rabbit will snatch it.  But there are billions of rabbits, and they will all fight for that carrot.  Of course, while the rabbits are fighting, there will be turtles wearing gold underwear wondering why the rabbits are fighting over a carrot.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 09:26 | 1957952 Ruffcut
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"turtles wearing gold underwear".  Please put down the bong. And it doesn't sound very comfortable.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 03:10 | 1957582 Questan1913
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Very clever capture of the essence of this corrupt corporotacrocy.  Of course it's going to make a difference when the attempt is made to assign  gargantuan losses to the public balance sheet,           The entire cabal are dead men walking.  Patience.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 02:00 | 1957470 OldPhart
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Ever notice that when you point your finger at something, three fingers are pointing back at YOU?

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 02:11 | 1957492 Caviar Emptor
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Tyler, I agree...to a point. 1929 was pre-big government. I know it's not pre Fed. But 1907 was pre-Fed. And so was The Long Depression (1873-1896). 

My point: there were perverted risk/reward relationships long before the welfare state. And the question of how to smoothe out the sickening lurch of boom-bust cycles has been a central question of capitalism. It was the key non-sinister, non-conspiratorial reason the Fed was created. And I think we all agree that one piece of regulation, Glass-Steagle, was salutary for the economy and the financial security of private citizens. 

Keep in mind that MF GLobal was able to dabble in Euro sovereign debt thanks to a similar piece of de-regulation that happened in 2004 when CFTC Regulation 1.25 was amended to allow Futures Commission Merchants to sweep client funds into less liquid assets. 

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 06:02 | 1957697 UP Forester
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1873 Long Depression?  The same 1873 the Fourth Coinage Act was passed?

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 02:38 | 1957534 defencev
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 It is hardly possible to believe that with current complexity of financial system one can avoid all problems by simply removing regulation and allowing "pure" capitalism to work through failures. Well, you then will have a total collapse of everything. What is quite obvious is that major problem is growing complexity of financial instruments which all are consequences of two things: derivatives and leverage. We all were frightened first by various derivatives and now by unregulated and multiplied up to infinity leverage through apparently shadowy tools like the one described  here.

If the primal goals of capital markets are price discovery and raise of capital, then it seems to me that the "primitive" markets where the only products would be company shares that could be bought for cash only should suffice. I am,of course, not that naive to believe that anybody in financial world would seriously consider to give up derivatives and leverage or , say, frequency trading but it seems to me that if there are people who claim that they can run the banks just by taking deposits only and not engaging  in anything else (including lending), then there should be also people who would be willing to run brokerages with a single function of trading company shares (i.e. without any kind of options etc)

and without any leverage. It looks like the only safe option (not hundred percent,of course) that would still be able to maintain stock markets activities...

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 02:57 | 1957563 Caviar Emptor
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The argument for "Pure Capitalism" ignores the simple reality that politics will always be with us, for better or for worse, to muck up the works. Since when has anything "Pure" ever survived in this world? It's a naive assumption. There's always someone or a group ready to exploit flaws to their advantage, and nothing in this world is without flaws

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 03:31 | 1957602 delacroix
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the complexity, is just a cover for the corruption

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 02:55 | 1957553 anonnn
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Libraries uniquely have answers in the form of forgotten sources of some of our present, overwhelming, threatening situations.

To begin, I reccomend reading the original U S Constitution and and early amendments, using  a selection of guidebooks to pick and choose from according to your own judgement. In a few hours, one gets a feel for the insidious scope of what was set in concrete; and what was not; and who/what are the covert prime movers and shakers.

One example that, if pursued in depth, will likely open new doors of understanding how we arrived at our social, economic disaster, is the original concept of U S Senators and how they were selected, then noting the changes to present day. Hint--such cannot be understood without coming to understanding the concept of backstop*, as in baseball.. IMO, this has not previously been considered on this blog.

[Sen. Burton Wheeler dropped backstop in Kenneth Rexroth's lap and it lay hidden from me on a dusty library shelf.]

*backstop: a fence, screen etc, especially one behind the catcher in baseball, serving to stop balls leaving the playing area. [Curious, aint it?]

 

 

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 19:03 | 1961043 blunderdog
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It's not really that deep, yo.

US Congress design was based on what the Founders already knew, which was the English Parliament. 

The House of Commons was where all the political dilletantes would yell and scream and propose wacky ideas, and the House of Lords was where everything those Commoners dreamt up would get rejected.

There's nothing insidious about that.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 10:17 | 1958171 spanish inquisition
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Goddam right I am going to point fingers. Failure is impossible? This has Democratic hands all over it and I have tracked it to the source!

The beginning, the ground zero of this impending financial collapse was Chicago in 1968, where everyone is a winner and there are no losers. The Special Olympics has ruined this country. I knew there had to be a Kennedy involved. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Olympics

Obviously this the nexus between government and the financial underworld, where everyone could be a financial winner without risk. The Special Olympics has ruined the world.

(BTW I am kidding, it is a fine organization and does alot of good work. Just wanted to distinguish this "partisan" rant from others.)

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 19:57 | 1961182 terryfuckwit
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i love sport and cannot say the words fair competition without rules.. The best sports are refereed seamlessly wih little interference until the big rules are broken and the red card comes out.. Sorry total anarchy destroys any game but over regulation by the whistleblower also destroys the flow of the game...Yes we are to blame every one who ever put money in a bank or trusted a politgician.. but do not kid youself no good game ever existed or ever will without rules...the balance will always be contentious and should be argued with passion

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 00:36 | 1957283 imapopulistnow
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$7.7 trillion after it was re-re-re--rehypothecated.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 05:26 | 1957673 NoClueSneaker
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GAO Fed Audit mentions 16 Tr. since 2008. Somehow ist that figure nono-topic for the LAM ( ZH introduced the abrev. lame-ass-media ).

This disclosure is perhaps the deadliest one, and explains why there could't be ANY liquidity in the market. K- deflationary, if I got it right.

I don't know, I'm pretty stupid, I learn every day from ZH, but when I look around - who actually cares ? Something is terribly wrong - and I'm insane. Should start with heroine, immediately.

 .... I'm just trying to imagine a pile of fake money, ( €U shorting budget of approx. 8 Tr. $$$, proudly modified by GS & JPM through this  LomdonTownFinancial-BiologicalWarfareInstitute re-hypothecation to 24 Tr. , imagining the CDS on the cancer ).....   

  A way too much to ignore, and the freakin' polit-zombies still extend & pretend. ( RP and Dennis Kucinich the rare exceptions, with a good chances to both die in an car accident )....

   Without a desire to be ugly, but somehow, after re-reading the article for the 5th time, I can't help myself, thinking of Peenemünde ....

 

 

 

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 00:17 | 1957225 Starving Artist
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Brilliant essay, thank you for shining some light on these dark pools

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 00:17 | 1957226 Akrunner907
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So why isn't John Corzine sitting in a jail cell with Kweku Adoboli?   

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 00:32 | 1957268 Doomer
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Cuz our Prez is a coward.

When he said "change", what he meant was there would be CFLs in the White House instead of those evil incandescents.

The White House already has one too many dim bulbs.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 02:00 | 1957468 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Nope.

Cuz Erin Andrews is SMOKIN' HOT and no one cares if some people lost some money cuz everyone has been losin' money for years now.  Just went to Ross and got some fresh kicks, yo!

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 00:43 | 1957303 surf0766
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How about all the enablers of the crash. Where are they? Will they too go to jail? Anyone? Anyone? B....

 

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 00:57 | 1957334 High Plains Drifter
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they just throw the dotheads under the bus if someone has to go down for this mess. no problem. 

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 01:19 | 1957385 DOT
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Hey, lay off my peeps.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 02:01 | 1957471 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Sheeeit.....back up off me!

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 02:48 | 1957552 Clowns on Acid
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I have been asking that very "where is Jon Corzine " question for 6 weeks.

 

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 08:06 | 1957778 Sandmann
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running away from John Galt !

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 19:49 | 1961164 ejhickey
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2.47 km  !!!

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 00:22 | 1957227 Doomer
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In Frankfurt, Merkel is saying to Turbo Timmy "Dieser Sauger könnte sinken!"

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 02:01 | 1957473 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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There will be four German guys that understand that, and I ain't one of 'em.  Speak 'Mercan, damn it!

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 08:53 | 1957868 The Reich
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You'll never get it, Sauger!

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 04:09 | 1957625 malek
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google-translated scheint mir?

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 05:38 | 1957682 NoClueSneaker
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Rüschtüsch .... Denglisch vom feinsten ...

Angie won't say a thing. Dr. Wolfgang Strangelove Scheuble will have to lick all the stuff he vomited on Timmay three months ago, and simply allow turbo-printing, either ECB or Bundesbank manner ....

TINA whores again.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 00:23 | 1957231 SWRichmond
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I'm currently about a third of the way through this and already I am thinking "DTCC, stocks in my IRA portfolio, held in some "custodial" account for me....ha fucking ha.

 

Edit: So JPM rehypothecated $500 Billion?  Time to buy more physical.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 10:06 | 1958103 SWRichmond
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Woke up and finished reading it.  There seem to be a few simple lessons that we've learned before, but this piece is incredibly important, it hammers them home, and pulls together some other events. 

  • If you're going to panic, panic first.  You'll get the assets, and they won't be there when the next panicker comes along and tries to get them.==> trust is dead.
  • Hide the assets somewhere they can't be "clawed back" a la JPM's proposed MFG distributions.==> the GPS / shovel combo is your friend.
  • Ann Barnhardt is right: If you can't stand in front of it with an assault rifle and defend it, it isn't yours. ==> the rule of law no longer exists.
  • Molon Labe, bitches.
  • I need to expand my garden.
Thu, 12/08/2011 - 19:48 | 1961162 ejhickey
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use space bags.  air tight seal.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 00:21 | 1957235 Potemkin Villag...
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Are you getting it? Really getting it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBj5neka5Zw

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 00:34 | 1957276 Doomer
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I'm turning it up to 11!

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 00:23 | 1957242 High Plains Drifter
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hypothecation is a really kule word isn't it?   

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 00:35 | 1957279 CvlDobd
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Reminds me of Apothecary.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 00:47 | 1957316 High Plains Drifter
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i never learned anything about hypothecation or churning in business school. back in the early 1980's.....

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 08:05 | 1957774 Sandmann
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What School did you go to ? Most people were aware that using the same collateral with different lenders was not a great business practice, but it was bankers that frowned on manufacturers doing it......you know the lovely British stunt of Fixed & Floating Charge over a Company's Assets to stop them multiply hypothecating and subordinating senior debt holders

 

Maybe your Business School hadn't heard of Balance Sheets and was just fixated on Income Statements !

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 02:24 | 1957514 Caviar Emptor
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Gentleman, Apothecary, Plowboy, Thief

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 00:42 | 1957297 Doomer
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It's totally k

ühl!

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 00:25 | 1957248 navy62802
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Fractional reserve banking in any manifestation is a fraud, and I'll always believe that. It still blows my mind that this system of banking survived the Great Depression. But then again, I guess it shouldn't surprise me. Because without it, the bankers wouldn't be able to cut the truly astounding profits they have over the past century. Thus they pulled no punches in making sure that the system survived the Depression.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 02:03 | 1957475 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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They pull the number out of a hat.  The amount of leverage in a given system is not scientific.  Why ten?  Because that is what the smart guys in the room say.  I call bullshit!

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 02:29 | 1957522 Caviar Emptor
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But remember, after The Great Depression there was Glass-Steagle. Until it was repealed in 1998. 

And in the case of MF GLobal, they were confined to sweeping customer money into ultra-liquid assets, until CFTC Regulation 1.25 was amended in 2004 and again in 2005, allowing them to dabble in Euro sovereign debt and hypothecate in London.

And until Paulson approved 40:1 leverage for banks starting in 2000

On and on down the slippery slope we went

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 05:48 | 1957687 Sandmann
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Yes but Glass-Steagall was repealed because after London "Big Bang" in 1986 US banks had reconstituted themselves in London as Universal Banks and decided it was time that Sandy Weill get made legit, for his takeover of Citicorp to merge Travelers and Salomon - oh, and didn't he have a sidekick called Jamie Dimon whose Daddy had been a good friend of Sandy ?  Anyway, the Republicans were paid to vote out Glass-Steagall in return for the Democrats being alloweed the Community Reinvestment Act and hey presto, the way was open for retail banks to own CMOs with depositors' cash and fill their Mutual Funds up with Toxic Coolaid products

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 08:54 | 1957872 flattrader
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>>> alloweed the Community Reinvestment Act<<< ???

Uh, you might want to do a simple Google search.  Even consult wikipedia.

The CRA was around well before the repeal of Glass-Steagall

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 00:26 | 1957251 lizzy36
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One wonders if anyone congressmoron will ask Corzine or any regulator/facilitator about hypothecation and rehypothecation tomorrow.

We all know the hedge funds read ZH, wonder how many are drunk dialing their Prime Brokers right now.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 00:48 | 1957318 surf0766
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They will sit and chat and 30 seconds before each ones' time runs out they will ask some half assed question .

How was your danish? Then we are supposed to believe they are doing someone's work, just not ours.

This crap ain't gettin' fixed. There is too much dam greed and corruption from all sides.

 

 

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 00:48 | 1957319 High Plains Drifter
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i bet those morons won't touch it with a ten foot pole...

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 02:08 | 1957484 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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Politicians don't know what it means, they barely know what any term means, they will have to wiki it, and that still won't answer it for them. 

Politicians are MORONS.  They don't understand shit!  They are snakes that made it to the top of the snake pit due to chance, because, after all, some snake had to be King of the Snake Pit.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 06:05 | 1957701 UP Forester
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C'mon, politicians be smahrt!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNZczIgVXjg

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 00:27 | 1957253 Theta_Burn
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As long as those responsible are held to account, I'm good with it...

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 02:09 | 1957487 Mr Lennon Hendrix
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DUAL!

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 00:27 | 1957256 lolmao500
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CIBC and RBC blowing up would sure finish the other banks in Canada.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 01:31 | 1957411 Terminus C
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Canada would be totally fucked.

No worries though... the tax payer would be dragged to the rescue at gun point.  BoC is controlled by Goldman, tis all part of the plan.

Debt slaves bitchez.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 17:08 | 1960587 ucsbcanuck
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Try telling Canadians that. Most Canadians sit around with false pride: "We're sooo much better than everyone else."

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 00:29 | 1957260 alagon
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Under fractional reserve lending, it would be wise of everyone to become a banker.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 00:36 | 1957280 Potemkin Villag...
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Sure...

But face it... You're goin' SERFIN'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2sfev-gu3I

We'll all be SERFIN soon...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2s4slliAtQU&feature=related

 

 

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 02:31 | 1957527 Caviar Emptor
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The easiest way to rob a bank is to own one

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 00:31 | 1957266 CvlDobd
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25% seems like a high estimate for what's backed by quality assets. It's all shit.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 00:32 | 1957270 Carpathia
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Well worth the time to read.  MF Global is the modern day equivalent of the Credit-Anstalt collapse in 1931 the caused the last depression.  Plus ca change...

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 10:14 | 1958154 Catch-22
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... plus c'est la même chose (plus c'est pareil? CAN). And yet, folks in the great white are not ready for this. It's been spring for the last decade... I hear.

Thu, 12/08/2011 - 20:29 | 1961294 N57Mike
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.... like that name Carpathia.... the ship that picked up the survivors of the Titanic; who will be the one that picks up the life boats & survivors of the biggest financial disaster to ever hit this material world?

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