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Is This Why US Rail Traffic Is So Strong?
Also, if we were Mexico (or is that East LA?) we would be nervous. Very, very nervous. On the other hand, long-opressed Mexican crude may soon be liberated.
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Wouldn't it be great if the keys were in the ignition?
Military vehicles do not have keys. From motorcycles up to tanks.
They have chains and locks. And any civilian type vehicles certainly do have ignition and door keys.
remember the guy who stole one in San Diego and went for a joyride? gotta say it was probably worth the penalty just to smash thru traffic!
Except I think that guy was shot dead, no?
Perhaps you don't recall that it was an instantaneous death penalty?
I never let details get in the way of a good fantasy!
I worked on b-52's and we would send fresh canned pickles (reference new airmen and we had horrible green uniforms) in to get the keys. Later we would ask for a reading on the current levels on the vortex generator.
No need to worry, those things are scared shitless by mice...
has the economy officially tanked?
I see what you did there !!!
the US army - or marines - were doing urban warfare drills il LA this week as well - hmmm - all good - nothing here people- move along.
Either we attack Mexico and take their gold and oil or they are prepping for a martial law scenario. Did you see Jlo's dress last night?
we're taking jlo's gold and oil? i so confuzed!
...or both
I think they are prepping to defend America from the chi-coms after we destroy the dollar and then conveniently tell them MF Global had their gold and we'll get it to them...never.
So that's what they were up to... I'm used to seeing a few military helicopters fly through the I5 corridor each week, but the other night there were so many military and LAPD choppers over my house it looked like a damn WWI dogfight.
HarryHaller
They announced the drills, said it was normal, and they were doing it for Practice for Urban Warfare, need to stay up on the tactics.
Funny,we just had at least a million men and women in Iraq for 7 yrs in Urban warfare, seems they would DAMN well know whats going down.
Unless of course they are training the foreign troops they have here by the thousands.
The Northern Command was doing drills, likely Ft Hood was, will be....................never seen any in the Dallas area,strange.
Sounds like fucking BLUE THUNDER
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0085255/
do we know where this video was taken?
nevermind. I just saw it was Santa Cruz.
there's three videos together, Hayward, Morgan Hill, (someone said Santa Cruz) probably something going on at Ft Bragg? Monterrey? a lot of this stuff will go into mothballs in the next five years, they only need 1/10 of what they have to do civilian crowd control, or invade Mexico. its pretty embarrassing for them, like the fields and fields of aircraft and equipment built in WW2 which never left the US. all taxpayer dollars.
rather like the Chinese empty cities. . . 'cept armkns feed the Military Industrial Complex. . .
keepin' everyone working, spending, e x p a n d i n g - till everything eventually explodes, like the inflated balloon it all is. . .
they're not desert camo, and the armored personnel carriers are for urban warfare not desert/jungle. They could just be stocking up a bunch of national guard posts. I don't know how often they take delivery of large vehicle orders, but I'm sure it happens every once in a while even during peacetime. (which it's not right now, by the way.)
Wait, who did we declare war on? I'm surprised I missed it, I keep a close eye on congressional actions!
Silly DogRockets, declaring war is for kids. It's Kinetic Military Action now. So there is no need for Congress to approve.
The Democrats muslim declared war on the American middle class.
there is another video, allegedly, of a very similar train loaded with tanks in Michoacan, MX several days after this one appeared. http://youtu.be/nLNjukzDpMc
Love the Mexican music playing in the background on that video.
So Fast & Furious has stepped up to tanks?
Edit: I don't really think that is Mexico. There was speculation on another forum that the tanks were headed for the Sierra Army Depot in the NE part of California.
Will these lovely weapons of mass destruction be visiting Iran soon?
they're the wrong colors for that.
Color is irrelvant. In Desert Storm many vehicles arrived in the desert with green camo. Everyone on the base grabbed brushes and mops to paint them tan once they arrived in country.
This is the old FEMA trick where you move supplies all around the country for no reason to pay people off. FEMA pulled this shit during Katrina. Sending generators, ice, medical supplies to multiple areas of the South in a round about way to New Orleans. Stuff never arrived in NOLA. The warehouses are probably still full with that crap.
Not surprised when Buffet bought a railroad. It's a great scam.
These vehicles will be on loan to the states of Greece and Portugal for the next few weeks.
actually, they purchase german.
all these need are spare parts that are not made in USA anymore, since these are under warranty the GM plants in Mexico have the spares to fix them. What, do you want the sheeple to get confused??
That's just part of the Keynesian Final Solution ... make war, print money. Need those tanks to make war. It's not like modern money-printing, where you only need a computer.
All hail the Amerikaner kriegmaschine. Hitler and Stalin would turn green with evny if they were around.
The arsenal of Democracy!
Interesting
Well one trainload down.....ninety nine to go...........
why do I get the feeling that this is NOT for the "war on drugs"?
Tyler,
Are you sure that train was heading south.
To everyone else: Where are the guns, shouldn't there be some kind of rapid fire 30+ mm cannon(s).
Anyone realize that these tanks have forest camo ? What country has trees? China? Russia? Canada?
U.S. of A.!!!!!!!!!
If .gov was playing Risk...onward to Kamchatka bicthez!!!
Tanks for Canada need to be white and come with block heaters
PENTAGON WELFARE!!!! THE GREATEST SOCIALIST PROGRAM ON EARTH!!! AND NOW UNCLE WARREN REAPS THE BENEFITS!!!!
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Didn't Obama just say he was going to attack the energy problem on all fronts?
The youtube page says this was filmed in Santa Cruz, and was heading southbound. Another videographer looked up the train and found its destination was the Sierra Army Depot in Herlong, which is a large storage area for Army mechanized vehicles.
So, actually, no big deal... this time.
Sorry, something is badly wrong with this whole thing. 1) we have a train heading SOUTH to Herlong (40.09N 120.08 W) from Santa Cruz (36.58 N 122.01W) 2. Herlong is in Nevada and is substantially North of Santa Cruz. 3) As someone pointed out the rail line from Santa Cruz is a single track 10 mile an hour track and as such I would think would not be graded to that much weight. 4) I graduated out of San Jose State and lived above a T.V. shop and installed antenna's up there (mountains and beach area) of Santa Cruz. I cannot see why anyone in their right mind would send a train that way if they were going to Salinas or places further south.
There was a sighting of such said train in the State of Michoacan, Mexico several days later. Michoacan (the state) is some 350-400 miles south of Puerto Vallerta and below it is Guerrero which is mainly Alcapuelo 200 miles south yet. We are way south of the last bad narcotic city of Matazlan.
What the hell, if all the above is correct, is going on?
So let me propose a wild eyed hypothsis: These machines are headed to the Mexican SOUTHERN Border to seal it off from ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS from further south. We are going to help Mexico control its border so we can protect our border????
Remember a year or two ago--all the talk about the AMERO?? Think outside the box for a second. We have a contested and done deal on a CANADIAN oil pipeline, cheap Mexican labor with the prospect of a full scale revolution between two different cultures (you do remember the FBI giving away several thousand automatic rifles now don't you--think it's stopped??!!) Still feel all warm and fuzzy?
Probably as full of shit as a Christmas goose--but anymore what the hell isn't. Milestones
While this equipment probably is still functional and could be used, someone pointed out on a different website that there are markings on the side of the vehicles that indicate damage or orders to decommision. The boxes are supposedly where there is damage to the hull. The writing on the side of some of them indicates which vehicles to decommission.
They are old Bradleys from Korea coming home, don't let that stop everyone from putting on their tin foil.
New drinking game anyone?
Where is all the money?
How many tax dollars on that train? Not to mention Just transport cost alone?
And people wonder why the debt is so high! Nothings too good for the empire.
No visible unit markings for far sight recognition on those M2 Bradley Infantry Fighting Vehicle. Nor on the fueling trucks. All paint looks decent. Regardless of the color scheme. Also, these were shipping without barrels attached from what I could see.
All it means is that these are new production, or Cold war reserves being moved for more long term storage. The military is trying to downsize, right? That means consolidation. Just saying.
^This
Those are stripped down to their shell.
Bradleys and HEMTTs (Heavy Expanded Mobility Tactical Truck), the fuel version which I used to drive. I didn't see any cargo versions (for carrying ammo).
So what? Stuff is rail loaded all the time. This guy shooting the video could have done better work on his intelligence report and gone up and gotten pictures of the unit designators, would have avoided a lot of conspiracy nonsense.
SALUTE report (size, activity, location, unit, time, and equipment)Edit: And stop calling them tanks, you're just showing you don't know what you're talking about.
One thing is for sure, it is fucking amazing what a train engine or two can pull...
Business is always good for the MIC.
couple that with this weeks black hawks visit the lakers game...
Los Angeles Added to Disturbing Trend of Joint Military, Police-Homeland Security Exercise Listhttp://deathby1000papercuts.com/2012/01/los-angeles-added-to-disturbing-...
thanks for that link blurden, information on many of the "urban exercises" lately. . .
Operation Tread and Furious
All your tankz are belong to us.
weapons are added later on, no weapons shipped, so they don't get borrowed or lost. Anyway, probably someone forgot to requistion these from supply, so they will add later on, move along nothing to see here...
Maybe shipping 'em to Mexico to tear down for scrap.
maybe the cartels bought em
Fast and furious 2? imagine the drug cartels to get these bradleys and roll downing downtown cancun.
Yep, but this time we're gonna track the buyers!
haha..
remember, méxico is the next "front" in the GGGGGWWWWWOOOOOTTTTTT.
actually, they're leaving san diego harbour bound for shenzhen.
@ bd
or maybe Hugo Salinas is going to get his wish and Mexico is about to adopt a 'silver standard'.
Your tax-dollars at work -- and off to play, as well.....
You mean our children's tax dollars at work... Since we aren't actually paying for most of it now.
Yup, but I wasn't going to be super-snarky about this. This time, anyway.
duh..ur childrens money is over long time back...this is ur childrens' childrens' MONEY
they are probably just running em back and forth across country so obama can pay back buffett - bet you his railroad gets a good share of this biz
Heard that some big shots in Mexico are trying to push hard for Silver to replace fiat as money. Could this be the reason behind?
I was wondering the same thing. In fact, I've been wondering if the ever escalating "war on drugs" in mexico is somehow a cover for such activities. I mean, why else would be be supplying weapons to mexican drug cartels and then never following up on investigations into the who's and why's of the matter. Mix that with recent news that blackwater is being deployed into mexico and I just have to really wonder. I mean, you could kill any politician you don't like, then blame in on those drug guys, then turn a country into chaos all while looking like some sort of "friend" to the world, protecting everyone from those evil drugs.
I, like you, think it may have more to do with silver than with drugs. After all, we own afganistan, which produces no less than 80% of the worlds heroin, yet somehow with the worlds strongest military, we are incapable of destroying these MASSIVE cash crops that allegedly aid "terrorists". So if the "world police" don't stop the growth, production, or distribution of one of the worlds most addictive substances, what exactly are they doing? I'm pretty sure the proceeds do aid terrorists, just not the ones our attention is being directed at...
Opium has been used as a subtle weapon of destablisation by western powers before. Somehow, I don't think those corrupt individuals at the top could let the profits from such a lucrative business just be lost for the sake of humanity.
Wish I'd have researched the validity of this claim prior to sealing myself in my bunker.
It went south from Santa Cruz, so most likely to San Luis Obispo. When you drive through there, you can see stockpiles of the same stuff.
If they had been in desert colors, I would guess they might have gone to San Diego for shipment.
I don't buy the martial law thing on this train, because it went away from the bay area with its Oakland and Berkeley hotspots.
I think I just pooped my chair.
Well SOPA failed. On to plan "B"...
or
The feds are gearing up for the OWS with springtime warmer weather coming...
My optimism says that's the most fantastic interwebs news in a decade, but my cynicism says they either put it on the back burner to be passed when they've made absolutely certain nobody is watching, or are working on breaking it down into baby steps; don't want to turn the heat up on the amphibians too quickly, you know.
As others have said, the camouflage setup is the scariest part of this video. Commanders don't pick a camouflage setup haphazardly... It requires some forethought.
Who says the US doesn't manufacture anything anymore?
off to Iran?
Looks like the high desert in Cali where they used to have the annual classic Barstow to Vegas off-road race every Thanksgiving holiday until the event was determined to be a threat to some endangered bacteria found living within local toads.
and just down the road from Bartsow is Ft. Irwin, Ca. where the US Amry does their desert training. I know because I have been there twice. Nothing to worry about.
It's a false flag train
Santa Cruz? don't make me laugh - single track rated for 10 mph.
based on terrain, might be in the Salinas Valley 50 miles south of Santa Cruz. Or Hollister on line coming out of Silly Con Valle.
The video posted did indicate "south of Santa Cruz". He did not say how far or specifically where.
Obama ordered to get ready for LA riots (as Soros predicted).
Infantry Division (California Army National Guard) patrol the streets of Los Angeles, USA
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:ANG40InfantryDivisionLosAngelesRiot1992.jpg
Yeah, there is nothing like a military base south of LA. Non-event. that being said, this film was shot FAR NORTH of LA, south of Santa Cruz, California.
Amerikah, Fuck yeah!! About time we are going to protect our borders!! And boy are we ever!! /sarc
Saw this last night and my wife who really does not follow politics or economics says "well thats what is keeping the economy propped up, manufacturing and shipping tanks around the country".
Could also be going to Fort Hunter Liggett just south of Monterrey County.
I counted roughly 109 vehicles during the video.
Think for a minute- We have a long border with Mexico that has huge stretches of unmonitored land. Most crossings from south to north into the US happen at night. If you knew that some sort of civil unrest may be approaching and you were fearful that Mexico may not be able to control its population, what would you do? As a preventive measure you might station mobile Remote vehicles at points where there is little or no ability to monitor the boarder. These would have no real guns on them but would be loaded with the latest in both surveillance equipment and non lethal deterrents (including sound, voice alerts and lights, use your imagination).
These would be used in concert with Aerial, satellite and additional ground support (ie: people) in an effort to achieve total situational awareness and a higher level of control. So the vehicles should not have visible guns and are colored for night surveillance and will be able to navigate most terrain on the border.
I think what we may be seeing is part of the effort to create a virtual wall on our Southern border.
Seriously ? What have they done up until now to control the border ?
sorry, just military training in Ft. Irwin, Ca. nothing more. If they wanted to secure the border they would have done it already. Be rest assured that both the Dems and the Reps don't want the border secure.
Perhaps Corporate AMERICA doesn't have enemies, other than the people (because they are in bed with them… all of them!?!)
Not to worry. Those are the tanks that were recalled by GM for defective parts.
According to Dow theory, this train is yet another data point pointing to green shoots and recovery of our beloved country.
All hail "The Little Red Engine That Could." http://www.hubbardscupboard.org/little_engine_that_could.html
(an homage to MDB)
For reals, though, this summer is going to get crazy imo.
This is why stockpiling ammo and riding this storm out by yourself is a non-starter.
Ammo is used to hunt animals (food). Great for barter, too. Have fun riding it out with your friends.
Yes, because clearly I said ammo is worthless.
I'm starting to see the wisdom in the calls to bring back CAPTCHA.
America-Fuck Yeah
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhnUgAaea4M
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Holy shit! I haven't seen anything like that since growing up living by an arsenal. It was decommissioned in the late 80s.
"Is This Why US Rail Traffic Is So Strong?"
Well, that and ebay.
From Wikipedia...
Since entering service with the U.S. Army in 1981, a total of 6,724 Bradleys (4,641 M2s and 2,083 M3s) have been produced. The total cost of the program is $5,664,100,000, and the average unit costs $3,166,000.[9]
Assuming there were really 100 Bradley's on that train (I didn't count them) and ignoring the tanker trucks, that was $316 million worth of tax dollars (or debt owed to China) rolling by.
Military iron is moved around the continent by rail all the time.
Few things I'd like to point out:
The fact that so many across the internet are paying attention and conspiracy theories are flourishing means that many people are awake. Note that the majority of those interested are immediately thinking about our government planning either another unjust war or worse yet, planning to round up US citizens. Not sure if we've ever had a time in history where Americans were so disillusioned with government and to a degree almost paranoid about their government out to hurt them. Whether justified or not is besides the point right now. What does that say about the state of our nation? I guess more than any prescripted "State of the Union" address would ever bring to light.
The US is going for broke. Pentagon is cutting back pretty dramatically across the board. Bringing troops home from the ME and closing a few shops in Germany. More troops coming home. Coming home to what exactly? That's more of a concern because unemployed military has a tendency to organize. It happened everywhere else, it can happen here. Government knows this as well as I do which is why they have to plan for the eventuality. Also, military salaries are barely enough to survive on and inflation will hurt even more. The Soviet Union collapsed from within when the military broke ranks, didn't get paid enough and started selling weaponry en masse to anyone with cash (Dollars or Deutschmark only).
For all I know the equipment could go to the scrapyard as the Pentagon is desperately trying to raise cash. That transport by rail wasn't cheap either. Every drop of diesel fuel in these machines is costing the taxpayer. There is not going to be a war involving the US anytime soon. We can't afford it.
sure we can afford it. We'll just print more money. Also long as we have ink and paper we're set!
When the US went into war in 2001, there were buyers of US debt to finance the war effort. Those buyers are gone. Worse, the buyers are selling the US debt back. Sure we can print into oblivion, but if nobody accepts the paper that's not backed by anything we're done.
It is Buffett's railroad. My guess is the muslim told them to put tanks on the train so warren can make a few hundred million this quarter. His secretary needs to pay her taxes.
From a different angle, back in 1990, the army called up doctors for duty in Saudi Arabia, including my partner, in preparation for the first Gulf war so fast, they barely had time to pack their bags.
Now that I am looking for a position in the Army Medical Corps as an orthopedic surgeon, it has been 6 mos and still no word. It is going to take some time for the military to refurbish, resupply, restore, rebuild from the 2 ME wars.
Those tanks are not to keep Meggicans OUT
They are to keep YOU IN.
Hey- can't have you trying to scurry over the border without paying the tab ($700k pp) now can we?
BFV or CFV I cannot tell from the vid on my phone.
They are headed to NTC, the National Training Center in Ft. Irwin, Ca. This has been going on for years. I've been there twice in 1986 and 1987. It's where we do most of our desert training and no one should be alarmed. It's funny how these videos of troop movement always surface and a bunch of people get all paranoid. Nothing to see here... move along.
The other day i was talking to a fellow from Mexico city,... whom by the way, left the country because of the fascist [dictatorship] state, brought on by the "Institutional revolutionary Party [PRI]" - whom by the way have put the new meaning of "Feudalism" back into the neo-classical modern-day dictionary!
Quote: ___ "The City is a Hell-Hole of corruption, pollution, and drug cartels - nobody is safe!"
There were more exchanges, but, you get my drift - elections will be held July/2012 in Mexico. There will certainly be a "Civil War" if the "PRI" remain in office?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felipe_Calderon
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Institutional_Revolutionary_Party
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/20/enrique-pena-nieto-president-me...
Ps. it seems forever since the "Fox" left the chicken coup?
This is hilarious. A train just south of Santa Cruz is presumed to be on its way to Mexico? Hello. Geography much, people? I'm sure there's no way it could be on its way to several military bases in Southern CA, right? This is the dumbest post I've seen in some time on ZH.
GG
now you know why buffet bought burl at its highest strike price?
you think warren knew then that with the on set of peak oil - getting 400 mpg was a good thing?
i think warren was right
WHAT COLOR IS THAT ????......thats the last Bradley's in CONUS going away to get painted and spun up for Iran War....and that was road limit for that train...
I work for the bathtub's railroad and these kind of trains have been common enough for 8 years. I'd guess going for refurb or scraping. Its funny because I've only seen the 'bug's circus train only once. American values.
what's the bathtub railroad? just asking as a railroad enthusiast.
I believe he's referring to Warren Buffett, who has been known to make decisions whilst soaking in his bathtub.
The railroad in question is the BNSF - Buffett's Newest Source of Funds.
Amber waves of PAIN!
I saw one of these when I was in Gallup New Mexico last year.
Somebody is positioning assets...
Heh it's the new Honda Trak Car that has 4,000 batteries and only needs charged once a year.
If the US is pulling out of Iraq, as I read, and a pull back in Afghanistan, does it not make sense that equipment has to be moved around as it returns to the US? Barstow is a huge military area where armored exercises and training take place. Others here has stated that there are other sites in California where the vehicles may be headed. Out side storage in the area between Phoenix and Tucson, where aircraft are stored, is pretty dry for long term storage.
On the other hand, a lot of tank laden trains were seen before the Iraq dispute.
One obvious situation. not seen here, is that the Governor of Arizona got into the face (with her pointing finger pointed at his head)of the President of USA on the tarmac. It is said it was a truss discussion. Maybe having to do with the Mexican Drug War on the border. Note that Obama has refused to see the Texas and Arizona borders where there is a War zone much more dangerous to the US than the ME. The drug war death count in Mexico exceeds numbers that I can comprehend.
One might make levity and say that Obama is going to invade Arizona.
One might make sense and say that we have the military might rolling around on rail cars to defend the Southern Borders of our Nation. Yes we can, and NO we are not.
Rage is missing. As we look at today, the Party that is attempting to oust Obama, there is noise and stupidity over Who is the most conservative and Who loved Ronald R best. Abortions, gays, bull shit and nonsense. They say America is too dumb to get the big picture.
America says they are too dumb to lead the Nation. Yes, that includes the present administration.
I withdraw all comments stating that Obama may be a bright guy or smart man. With the exception of Ron Paul, the Republicans are a lost party. And America may be a lost Nation
You sound like a moron who voted muslim 2008. If you ever actually said the Democrats Allah was a smart man then your are an idiot. As far as Ron Paul - who is the Democrat Party's Ron Paul? They are all scum.
I don't know.
If we are to deploy on the Mexican Border from Ca to Tx it will require two field armies (300,000) or 8 Corps equilvilant to put a man every 50 yards 24/7 and seal it.
We are leaving a pile of trucks and humvees as a gift to the iraqis. It's cheaper to do that then to marshal the shipping required to move all that crap.
There were some Paladins on Heavy Haul trucks towards St Louis the other day. Strange because Oklahoma is supposed to be the school of artillery.
How many troops are deployed on foreign soil? Bring them back and maybe it could be done.
Nah, those just missed the freighter with the Patriot battery on board...
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/01/24/lapd-joint-military-drills-in-...
Lets keep it simple. How about Obama the Community organizer election year hype. Sends the troops to guard the border.
war is good for business, victory is better.
http://covert.mypressonline.com
It would help in all tinfoil exercises if we knew what points this rail connects.
Headed for San Diego naval docks---and then on to Iran.
You might be classified a Domestic Terrorist if...
You're seen video taping rail cars moving US military vehicles...
Oh beautiful, for spacious skies, for amber waves of grain.....
I happened to have RATM's No Shelter playing in the background.
Awesome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWQ5GZy6egg
Is this just simply equipment coming back from Iraq?
Nope . wrong cammo desing
All false flags are operations
Not all operations are false flags
the usa prision bureau BOP is said to have several thousand busses filled with prisoners driving around on the nation's highways at any given time. It is called "Diesel Therapy" to put problem pisioners on these buses who have no need to be transported to facilities in other regions, with those that do, just to punish them. If you knew how to identify the markings of these busses and were to make a video of them filled with prisoners passing by on the hghways you or someone like Alex Jones could easily speculate that there was some grand plan underway to take them to concentration camps or kill them or whatever. In fact, it is just government waste and inefiiciency. Nothing more than that. This kind of thinking paranoid leads poeple to think that clouds are chemical trails and all kinds of stupidity. When I see a video of the usa government moving tanks around by train I know it is just more of the same, money wasting.If people read more into it than that it just shows how crazy you can become if you fixate on one incident or theme, like false flags, for too long. then before much time the entire world is one big false flag to their mind
You generalize and use too many superlatives. I'm inspired by your self-confidence.
upon reflection do you not think it is the people who make broad claims like "fale flag operation" chemical trails, fema camps and so on, without providing any basis or evidence, who are the ones using too many superlatives and generalizing?