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Why Were The Trillions In Fake Bonds Held In Chicago Fed Crates?
While there is precious little in terms of detail coming out of the latest and literally greatest "fake" bond story in history, the BBC has been kind enough to release the pictures of the boxes that the supposedly fake bonds were contained in. While we reserve judgment on the authenticity of the bonds, what we wonder is whether the boxes were also fake. Because while we can understand why someone would counterfeit the Treasury paper itself, what we don't get is why someone would go the extra effort to also create a "fake" compartment in which to store it. In this case a compartment that is property of the "CHICAGO FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM." Perhaps Fed uberdove and Chicago Fed President Charles Evans will be kind enough to explain why Versailles Treaty Chicago Fed crates are floating around in Europe (and filled with $6 trillion in supposedly fake bearer bonds)?
What is also interesting is that a simple google search for Mother Box Treaty of Versailles yields the following:
Transferring rights over Mother Box Treaty of Versailles 1934-Illinois Bank
We transfer rights over Mother Box Treaty of Versailles 1934-Illinois Bank having the next status:
1. Has been verified by the authorities, being legal, certain and real existence.-
2. With SKR in an Reputable Security House in an European Country .-
3. History of mother box and baby boxes (13 ) certified by a public notary.-
4. Print amount in the front of Mother Box includes:
M.B. Control...G7777xxxxxxxxxxxx
Serial
Sec Code
Public Debt Nº
Total Face Value: Three Trillions
5. Inside 13 baby boxes closed, with certificates, numbers, size and height.-
6. 13 JPG Images (In High Definition) Front, Up, Down, Right, Left, Inside, each with notary seal and sign.-
Transfer rights under conditions as follows:
1. Deal only with direct interested with Bank POF (Proof of Funds) in hands (Non negotiable point).
2. No broker chains or pretenders in the middle.
3. Verification when buyer wants and wish face to face.
4. Meeting with the owner without problem, ever in the European Country.
5. We are able and open mind about any reasonable offer.
6. We not send images, numbers of information in advance.
7. First step for any interested person: LOI and Passport.
8. Second step: We reply with the same.
9. Third Step: Both parties disclose addresses, phone numbers, mails and skype (Owners don´t speak english)
10. Operation is clear: after all previous steps is Box against Money.If interest please write to secretisimo@mail.com
And some other examples of Chicago Fed Mother Boxes courtesy of divinecosmos:
And below is a fascinating, if entirely uncorroborated account on the provenance of these boxes, once again courtesy of Divine Cosmos. Unwittingly, the counterfeiters may have stumbled upon something they had no idea about:
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A lawsuit has been currently filed in the southern district of NY asking for these "fake" bonds to be return to the real owner. A lot of effort and bravado to get just "fake" bonds returned.
Read the complaint filed by attorneys of a respected lawfirm attesting to a reasonable belief in the truthfulness contained therein under penalty of sancation under the federal rules of civil procedure. The complaint is an Eye opener. They are gold backed bonds.
BTW Tyler's. Never I got response TY email (or the requested name change) for tipping you off... Don't care about the TY TY but can I please get the name change?
Because the NY ones were already full ?
I thought all the Treasuries issued these days were fake.
Ummm, if we got all the gold, why do we still have the certificates? Aren't they the receipts for the gold?
"this artifact looks like a fossilized turd, shit out by the banking elite. Proof that this elusive creature exists" - Geraldo Rivera
so wait, this is all a "truther" hoak?
Dude, some people have WAYYYYYY too much time on their hands.
It is the Al Capone treasure that Geraldo was looking for in Chicago in 1986! No wonder poor Geraldo couldn't find anything but The Chicago River.
http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/2012/02/17/fake-us-treasury-bond...
To the skeptics as to the authenticity of these bonds. ask yourselves WHY would a counterfeiter make them?
If I was trying to defraud someone with a fake financial instrument, I would try to forge something rather mundane, like a 30 year bond of recent issue.
What I WOULDN'T do is forge an OLD arcane bond that no one has heard of, with a ridiculously large denomination that is bound to attract scrutiny and mistrust, and put them in a vintage pirate chest... Good luck trying to fly under the radar with that. Anyone who can painstakingly craft a prop of such high quality would have had the presence of mind not to print something with a face value of "1 Gazillion Dollars"...
These aren't forged. But time will tell...
I think that it all depends on how traceable things are, from years ago versus today. And given the shoddy record "keeping" of today I then commence to scratch my head...
You write, ask yourselves WHY would a counterfeiter make them?
Perhaps it is for the same reason that out of the seven billion people in the world, Yassar Arafat's barber's widow would contact ME, because my name was given to them as a truthworthy soul, so that I might use my bank account to help them transfer $167,472, 266 (one hundred sixty-seven million four hundred seventy-two thousand two hundred sixty-six) that the late Mr. Arafat had hidden in Bank of the Middle East, Palestinian Authority Branch, 123 George Habash Blvd., Gaza, and for which I will receive 20% off the top.
Yes, the answer is that someone like you will believe it is real. Nigerian 419.
+1000
Greenspan brought down the world trade center? Did I read that right.
Here is the civil action case #8500 filed in NY federal southern disctrict court the day before THANKSGIVING demanding that $135B in "fake bonds" back...you can register for PACER and get it through the courts if you like...
http://www.rumormillnews.com/pdfs/11%20civ%208500%20Keenan%20Complaint.pdf
The deeper you read into this and the black gold (unofficial) you begin to see the STRUCTURE of the duality we currently accept for face value.
TD has identified DivineCosmos as the go to for the full story...but consider its laced with disinfo...
There are two markets for "public" debt and one is public, the other private and this is also true for gold...consider all the gold that has been confisgated during the 20th century...do the math...they pulled gold filing on teeth in Germany! Well the black gold supports the private/public debt market...so its like one house of cards supporting another supporting the Mall of America...
Once you start to realize there is a parellel money system as their is a parrelel legal system which there is also a parellel government (ETC)...the totaility of our ignorance only pales in comparison to our capicity for violence upon those responsible.
Please take a look in the mirror and stop projecting your insecure fears onto leaders you A, voted for, B SILENTLY CONSENTED TO
LAW MAXIM - SILENCE IS ACQUIESCENCE! Tacit consent! WE DID THIS TO OURSELVES...humans...did this to humans...leaders didnt do this to "voters"...
Who was it that said, the only news is the history you don't know...or something along those paraphrased lines...
PS...get a Black's Law dictionary (preferabbly no later than 6th edition) and start deciphering what is really being said any time "they" speak...you keep using street English decoder ring and they are speaking in Legalese/Legal English.
TGIF :)
There appear to be more of these boxes as well as bonds and there are strange things going on.
With some googling for images with “Morgenthau bonds” I found this site with some high res images of cotton bonds and another box . And the good part is, these bonds are for sale ;D
http://english.arthur-stern.de/index.php?look=1218388570
The guy also has a Youtube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Stern7949
In this vid, he shows a bond:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA21oSoiARs
There are some very high res pictures:
http://english.arthur-stern.de/index.php?look=1218370604
With bond numbers, etc.
Googling for “yamashita gold federal reserve bond” resulted in some more interesting images:
Here a save-keeping receipt for two 500 million US treasury bonds:
http://codenamejumper.wordpress.com/tag/96-miliardi-di-euro/
Here what appears to be interesting information on the collateral accounts, including some pictures with gold allocated to Soekarno in Basel:
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_globalbanking96.htm
And here some pictures of another find in the Philippines:
http://cagayandeorojournal.blogspot.com/2007/07/billions-of-us-treasury-bonds-unearthed.html
Another very interesting document which appears to contain a lot of information on a.o. the Black Eagle fund, etc. is “Collateral Damage (Part 2): The Subprime Crisis and the Terrorist Attacks on September 11, 2001? By E.P. Heidner:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/9421535/Collateral-Damage-Part-2-The-Subprime-Crisis-and-the-Terrorist-Attacks-on-September-11-200126122008
http://www.scribd.com/mobile/documents/9421535
Here’s another source where these bonds have turned up. This time in France/China:
http://adscriptum.blogspot.com/2011/04/exclusive-mr-yin-mr-yang-200-billion.html
This paper (with references) confirms that Treasury notes with nominations as high as $500 million HAVE indeed been issued by the US Treasury:
http://www.ehs.org.uk/ehs/conference2005/Assets/NollFullPaper.doc
This guy also has more interesting papers:
http://franklinnoll.com/Treasury-Securities-Knowledgebase.html
This pdf, for example, shows that there multiple treasury notes with high nominations were issued:
http://franklinnoll.com/Vol_10.pdf
For example (page 5):
The Annual Reports of the Secretary of the Treasury can be found at archive.org:
http://bit.ly/xO5ehk
This one should be very interesting. The one from 1934:
http://www.archive.org/details/annualreportofse1934unit
And 1935:
http://www.archive.org/details/annualreportofse1935unit
http://www.archive.org/stream/annualreportofse1935unit/annualreportofse1935unit_djvu.txt
Very interesting that here you find the proof that bonds with attached interest coupons WERE issued (which is now being denied by the FED IIRC) and with nominations as least $100,000 as well:
Googling for “series of 1934? (with the “” also in the google search bar) delivered more interesting stuff, like:
http://www.highdenomination.com/Gold_Details.asp?id=904
Interesting contradiction. How can you have “many people who claim” when “all the notes that were printed are accounted for”?
Well, they were “accounted for” by wiping “approximately $100 million in gold, silver, and other assets as security for this old currency” under the carpet in 1961:
http://fraser.stlouisfed.org/docs/historical/senate/senate_frdp_old1960.pdf
This act appears to have been enacted, but it may have been changed:
http://www.federalreserve.gov/aboutthefed/section16.htm
“The act of June 30, 1961, is the Old Series Currency Adjustment Act”
Also a very interesting detail can be found in several Treasury bulletins, like this one:
http://www.archive.org/stream/treasurybulletin1967unitaug/treasurybulletin1967unitaug_djvu.txt
“Excludes gold certificates, Series of 1934, which are issued only to Federal Reserve banks and do not appear in circulation.”
How can you have “gold certificates, Series of 1934? which are “issued only to Federal Reserve banks and do not appear in circulation” that have been DESTROYED or IRRETRIEVABLY LOST?
I mean, if these things were really only used by Federal Reserve banks, why on earth would you need an act to “authorize adjustments in the accounts of paper currency [..] and writing off [...]old large-size currency now outstanding that has been destroyed or irretrievably lost”???
And last but not least Lord James of Blackheath has spoken in the House of Lords holding evidence of three transactions of 5 Trillion each and a transaction of 750,000 metric tonnes of gold and has called for an investigation.:
http://www.rayservers.com/blog/lord-james-of-blackheath---15-trillion-do...
This story is getting stranger and stranger...
Oh, one more thing: this "series 1934" appears to refer to the design of the paper?/cotton bonds that was made in 1934. This does not mean the bonds themselves have been isssued only in 1934. They may have been issued years later, but I don't know for sure.
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This story reminds me of 2009
http://www.ftd.de/politik/europa/:kennedy-bonds-italien-raetselt-ueber-96-mrd-euro-schmuggel/526520.html
Chiasso financial smuggling case
http://11civ8500.wordpress.com/chiasso-financial-smuggling-case/
Reading Benjamin Fulford right now, man is this stuff really happening?!
http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/
I think I saw those same boxes in a old Errol Flynn movie.
The question which has not been asked,"Are there more of these boxes and/or bonds out there that have not yet been discovered?" Here's a question...If you found out that someone in your neighborhood had been passing counterfit bills in all denominations and that the merchants in your hood had been found to have a lot of the bogus bills mixed into thei rcash drawers, and, if you knew that by having possession of bous bills you could go to jail for 5 years, would you go shopping in your hood and accept change in any cash transaction. Every bond holder in the world is now quietly asking themself, if 6 trillion in bogus bonds was just found, what are the chances some of it has made its way into the markets? How does it affect my position? Damage has already been done.
LOL, Chicago.
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The Jig's up.
The Jig's up.
All of the information on this story is being provided by the Italian Government.
The Italian government is beholding to the FED and ECB for one of the next bailouts. Nasty riots in the streets a good possibility.
The previous “Fake” bonds discovered in Italy were supposedly “Old” 1920’s or 1930’s. No pictures of the CUSIPS numbers were allowed by the Italians. Have you seen CUSIP numbers released yet on these latest fake bonds? Why is it necessary to hide counterfeit CUSIP numbers? The BBC picture says, “This is what the bonds look like” not this is a picture of the fake bonds.
James Willy contends that the FED had counterfeit bonds stored in Cantor Fitzgerald when the Twin Towers collapsed. The numbers were alleged to be in the Trillions. He showed current graphs of FED redemption of old bonds way beyond the amount that was issued originally. He subsequently stated that he was approached by a “military style” person who said he would receive a bullet in the back of the head if he continued to report on certain unidentified things. I never saw his coverage of fake FED bonds discussed ever again.
This is all conjecture on my part but the 2 stories have a distinct odor about them.
There are 2 possibilities.
The bonds are REAL:
The high denomination would be logical, if you knew that after taking the Gold away from the economy and launching a fiat based system, how many zero's you would need on your bonds when you redeem them in 30-60 years. Afterall its not the first time for a ponzi scheme in the history of the world.
The bonds are FAKE:
Why would you go to such lengths to fake something that would stick out like a sore thumb and only highly specialised banks and institutions can honour it?! Better of counterfeiting EURs and iPhones.
So, anyone who went to such lengths to fake these bonds is having doubts about the FED honouring the real bonds being held and is either testing the waters as to the response or has been declined already in some way that thier bonds will not be honoured and is in a way sending a warning signal that it can all go public and damage the reputation causing a stampede in bond markets. Something along those lines.
Just my 20 trillion dollars .....
The intent is not to present these to anyone who would know they are fake, the intent is to offer them to some naive, bug-eyed, pie-in-the-sky dreamer who is dumb enough to think he can sell them to someone with big money, and who will jump through hoops paying "minor" fees and bribes and clearing charges here and there, all the while waiting for THE BIG PAYOFF. The cost of setting up the scam are miniscule...a printer, some paper, some software and a metal worker.
Clearly you have not come across any Nigerian 419 scams.
So, these bonds are "real", but real fakes, since it's obvious that if this is true, the Fed never intended to redeem any of these bonds. I suppose that makes them as "real" or "fake" as any bonds printed today.
The reason for this story is very simple.
Dont trust any paper US Treasuries. Dont buy it. It might be fake.
So the private market for US treasuries is drying up. Nobody is willing to give cash, even at a deep discount on the nominal values. This avoids, that the owners having lots of treasuries can sell anonymously to third parties.
The bonds are not 'fake'.
This is the most disturbing story I have seen on ZH.
It means that the war has already started.
Do you think today's bizzare story about this "Operation Vulcanica" might be connected to the equally bizarre speech given yesterday, on Feb. 16, 2012, in Parliament? Lord Blackheath (yes, THAT Lord Blackheath ... he's b-a-a-a-ck) has spoken in the House of Lords holding evidence of three transactions of 5 Trillion each and a transaction of 750,000 metric tonnes of gold and has called for an investigation. The transcript of his speech is near the bottom of this page ... just scroll down to "Column 1016" if this jump link cuts you off:
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld201212/ldhansrd/text/120216-0...
When I read this article and then some of the comments that follow, I fully understand why the Nigerian 419 crowd is still in business. Yes, some of the people really can be fooled all of the time.
For those of you who joked about how they are just paper like the real thing (a valid point), if you followed the divinecosmos website and all of its links, you would find that they claim that one Chinese family discovered a block of gold the size of Rhode Island (geez, maybe paper really is worth more than gold), and has bank accounts one of which has more than $1,000,000,000,000,000,000 (quintillion). And some people are worried that QE is a paltry $1.5 trillion? Then there is the "document" from the "World Bank" that details a single account held at HSBC that paid fees and charges of $464 trillion last year, which would equate to almost 8 times worldwide GDP. I guess HSBC won't have any need to go to the discount window for a few millennia. And can you imagine the bonus that private banker got! Heck, at 1% he'd be the fourth largest GDP nation on Earth! And yes, there are aliens involved, and I don't mean people who crossed the Rio Grande, but rather those who crossed the Rio Cosmos.
Such is the credibility of divinecosmos, the source of record for this "scoop".
I will give ZH the benefit of the doubt and call this what it is, Friday Humor.
But humor is funny Chindit...this was just stupid. From your handle I can assume you are versed in Chinese history? Did you hear about the 7 KMT battleships sailing to NY in '38? Just plain stupid.
Wow. This story has legs.
http://everist.org/archives/links/!_Bonds_arrests_links.txt
2003 $2.5 trillion dollars worth of United States Federal Reserve notes, dated 1934.
2009 Two Japanese arrested in Italy with $134 Billion in US Bonds. Date in HT pic: 1934.
2012 Italy: eight people arrested with ~ $6 trillion U.S. Treasury bonds, dated 1934.
Q: If these these are all fakes, why do the idiots always pick 1934?
A: Because the bonds are real, from 1934 gold heist.
The 2009 case with the two supposed Japanese involved bonds from the 60s not 1934. That incident had merit. This one...no.
Also, I'd say the reason these bonds are turning up (since 911) is all the holders of the bonds KNOW that the gold the bonds are supposed to represent (which was stored in the basement of WTC7) is GONE. Stolen by the Illuminati, and it isn't coming back.
So the bonds are effectively worthless. The only way they can ever be redeemed for physical gold, is if the present Thieves' Cabal in power in the USA is defeated, the incoming power manages to locate and retrieve the gold, AND is willing to honor the bearer certificates.
That will take somewhere between a very long time, and never. Hence why the bonds are now being either moved to Switzerland for deep storage, or offered for sale for fractions of their face value.
Cool looking boxes
These are priced in anyway.
up 1 for supa..., it's all fuckin priced in!/sarc (/sarc 'cause, well, maybe not this!!!)
These bonds are real. And there are many many more where they came from. I'd highly reccommend reading the extensive posts on Divine Cosmos regarding these. It is clear that some people are getting very nervous right now... The bad guys aren't going to walk themselves to jail. We're going to have to get them there.
See my post below. I know nothing about the veracity of these bonds but this "Divine Cosmos" character is a fiction writer and nothing more - not even a good one at that.
Sounds like people are spotting the fake here...at least the box anyway. While I have no doubt for myself that the Chiasso case was the real dealinvolving either China or Japan, let me point out some "52 stars on the flag" problems with this story.
* Emperor Hirohito did not become Emperor until 1926, and only became regent for his ailing father LATE in 1921. He was not cutting deals with the founders of the Fed in London that year.
* The BIS would have had no need of Japan's signature anyway. They had only just become a superpower dues to the massive trade surplus generated during WWI and they were 1) on the cusp of an over-production induced depression and 2) the whipping boy ofthe European powers as evidenced by the attempts throughout the 20s and 30s to reduce their military power by treaty culminating in Japan walking out of the League of Nations.
* The Kuomintang was a political party - not a "dynasty." Anyone who refers to it as such has their academic and research credentials seriously impaired in my eyes.
* In 1938 the Republic of China had almost NO coastline to speak of nor did they have so much as a gunboat, let alone "seven battleships" with which to transport gold to New York. The whole reason for the Burma Road was to get supplies to China BECAUSE the seaborne line of communication was cut off.
This reeks of crappy fiction, the kind where the author writes a historical fiction novel based on what they remember from high school. Maybe this guy should start writing bodice ripper's instead of doing 20th century financial research.
Story just keeps getting more interesting. Check out the first-hand account of a German lawyer who has personally been handed identical issues to those seized in Italy.
Golden Trust of Chiang Kai-shek
http://silverdoctors.blogspot.com/2012/02/6-trillion-in-us-bonds-part-of.html
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