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Will The British Bankers' Association Ban Barclays As It Said It Would?

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In the ongoing reincarnation of Lie-borgate (because as Jon Weil reminds everyone, this is nothing new under the sun, except for a few e-mails, and a bottle of Bollinger), there is just one missing link right about now. From Bloomberg, April 16, 2008:

"It's very important to us that we preserve the integrity of the figures," said Lesley McLeod, a BBA spokeswoman in London. "It's something we have been looking at. If we find that people have been putting in figures which don't reflect accurately their financial figures, the ultimate sanction is to throw them out of the pond.''

And just so there is no confusion, from the NYT, June 6, 2008

The British Bankers Association (BBA) -- which oversees the daily benchmark setting process -- in April announced that it was bringing forward its annual review of the process. It stated that any member found to be deliberately misquoting would be banned.

So: Will the British Bankers' Association now ban Barclays as it said it would? After all, there is all that "integrity" to be preserved.

 

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Fri, 07/06/2012 - 19:29 | 2593607 veyron
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hypocrisy: only applies to the 99%

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 19:36 | 2593623 resurger
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T_T

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 19:55 | 2593664 Troll Magnet
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They will ban Barclays...as soon as the US DOJ goes after Eric Holder.  They're just waiting for our cue.  I wonder what's taking them so long...maybe too busy working on the Corzine case?  

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:44 | 2594040 Mark Carney
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Best part is is that we know the figure heads that be read ZH. So ass wipes, are you going to put your money were your mouth is?

 

My guess would be..............No

 

Good day.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 09:02 | 2594519 Conrad Murray
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Seems the more appropriate move, then, would be for the mere commoners to start putting their Gemstars where the Banksters' mouths are.

It almost has a ring to it: Gemstars for Banksters, help scalp the scalpers.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:03 | 2593678 knukles
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Cultural difference.
US LIBOR investigation.  Senate and House hearings, huge pabulum and controversy, major air time, new bills passed, none enforced, humongoliod campaign contributions, nothing changes.  If there even is an investigation.

UK LIBOR Investigation.  Parliamentary inquiry, Frauds Office inquiry, many folks are fired, resign, possibly including some at BoE.  Some real penalties incurred at personal and professional levels.  Some folks out of jobs.  Maybe even a few in jail.  Fines, sanctions and public humiliation.  Severance packages skimpy to nil in some cases.  A few even show public contrition.

Difference.
You do not under any circumstances fuck with the City of London.
It is a law unto itself.
It Is The God Of ALLMoney, Banking and Finance.
The City will go to any length to protect itself, including throwing anyone and anybody to the spectacle of a public drawing and quartering.
Mind you, those who run said City shall neither be seen nor heard.
Drama, behind the scenes, shall be managed by those responsible for settling the Crown, Whitehall and the City's differences.
Solving, Caring for the Queen's Problems as is the olde adage in certain circles.
There shall be people deeply harmed as a warning for the necessity of future civil behavior, for the City, the deep unseen City, the very centre of global rehypothecation of finance and precious metals, the centre of the Anglo-American Banking Cartel shall exit, remain unscathed.
Those so sloppy and undignified to manage the infinite financial Leviathan so poorly, are expendable.
Should never been allowed so close to the Club.

In the US the regulators and law givers are owned by the financial enablers.  All sound and no action.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:29 | 2594018 anonnn
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The British Bankers Assoc is just another union, doing what its membership agrees to do.

Ditto the Union of Central Banks.

Ditto the Federal Reserve Banks System.

Ditto, ditto, ditto.

Some unions are stronger than others.

The best criminals salivate over privileges and freedoms to cause injustice.

Theirs are the most pathological unions and of least benefit to humankind.

Money and ControlPower v. Fairness and Truth.

  

 

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 00:57 | 2594214 daveeemc2
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BBC made it a point to reference fact that former head of barkleys was american.

So lets see...usa now known as being obese, lazy and now, financial cheats.

No one is gonna want to play monopoly with us anymore, especially if we demand to be the banker.

W/o finance, what we got left to export?

Guns....forgot about the war machine stuff....cant forget about that.

But we doing a bang up job letting our drones and hi tech equipment fall into enemy hands...wont be long now before we play second fiddle to our enemies after they reverse engineer our virus malware and military hardware.

I fully expect blow back real soon in the form of a worm/virus that takes out major parts of our already crumbling infrastructure.

A hit like that + our already bankrupted status might just well tip the scales towards a speedy end game.

Just imagine the seas of sh!t rolling down our rivers when the idiots who set up our treamtent plants leave backdoor access to numerically controlled plc valves and pumps.

That should be an interesting day for an interesting country.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 13:09 | 2594855 Not Too Important
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USD BBA LIBOR PANEL

  • Bank of America 
  • Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi UFJ Ltd
  • Barclays Bank plc
  • BNP Paribas
  • Citibank NA
  • Credit Agricole CIB
  • Credit Suisse
  • Deutsche Bank AG
  • HSBC
  • JP Morgan Chase
  • Lloyds Banking Group
  • Rabobank
  • Royal Bank of Canada
  • Société Générale
  • Sumitomo Mitsui Banking Corporation
  • The Norinchukin Bank
  • The Royal Bank of Scotland Group
  • UBS AG

STERLING BBA LIBOR PANEL

  • Abbey National plc 
  • Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi UFJ Ltd
  • Barclays Bank plc
  • BNP Paribas
  • Citibank NA
  • Credit Agricole CIB
  • Deutsche Bank AG
  • HSBC
  • JP Morgan Chase
  • Lloyds Banking Group
  • Mizuho Corporate Bank
  • Rabobank
  • Royal Bank of Canada
  • The Royal Bank of Scotland Group
  • Société Générale
  • UBS AG

EU BBA LIBOR PANEL

  • Abbey National plc
  • Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi UFJ Ltd
  • Barclays Bank plc
  • Citibank NA
  • Credit Suisse
  • Deutsche Bank AG
  • HSBC
  • JP Morgan Chase
  • Lloyds Banking Group
  • Mizuho Corporate Bank
  • Rabobank
  • Royal Bank of Canada
  • Société Générale
  • The Royal Bank of Scotland Group
  • UBS AG

US FED PRIMARY DEALERS

Bank of Nova Scotia, New York Agency
BMO Capital Markets Corp.
BNP Paribas Securities Corp.
Barclays Capital Inc.
Cantor Fitzgerald & Co.
Citigroup Global Markets Inc.
Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC
Daiwa Capital Markets America Inc.
Deutsche Bank Securities Inc.
Goldman, Sachs & Co.
HSBC Securities (USA) Inc.
Jefferies & Company, Inc.
J.P. Morgan Securities LLC
Merrill Lynch, Pierce, Fenner & Smith Incorporated
Mizuho Securities USA Inc.
Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC
Nomura Securities International, Inc.
RBC Capital Markets, LLC
RBS Securities Inc.
SG Americas Securities, LLC
UBS Securities LLC.

Romney's Top Campaign Contributors

Goldman Sachs $593,080 JPMorgan Chase & Co $467,089 Bank of America $425,100 Morgan Stanley $399,850 Credit Suisse Group $390,360 Citigroup Inc $312,800 Kirkland & Ellis $264,302 Wells Fargo $237,550 Barclays $234,650 PricewaterhouseCoopers $227,250 Deloitte LLP $222,250 HIG Capital $216,995 UBS AG $207,750 Blackstone Group $198,800 Bain Capital $156,500 Elliott Management $146,275 Marriott International $137,827 General Electric $135,450 Bain & Co $130,550 EMC Corp $129,450

 

According to Diamond, "they all did it."

Does anyone see a pattern here?

 

LIBOR Explained - http://bbalibor.com/

FED Primary Dealers List - http://www.newyorkfed.org/markets/pridealers_current.html

Romney's Top Campaign Contributors - http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12/contrib.php?cycle=2012&id=N00000286

 

 

 

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:08 | 2593695 BarreraNorman70
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A friend's mother makes $84 hourly on the computer. She has been out of a job for 7 months but last month her pay check was $18729 just working on the computer for a few hours. Read more here www.GoolgepayClick.Com

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:53 | 2593795 Troll Magnet
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WOW!! you should contact the white house about this! our unemployment problem solved!!!

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:49 | 2593935 uno
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yea, but how many donkey shows can she do before your mom starts undercutting her

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 00:18 | 2594173 jez
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Your imaginary friend's imaginary mother is lying to you again. The silly old cow barely knows how to turn on the computer.

 

And she can shove her crummy imaginary job. This is Zerohedge, Norm! Zerohedge readers spit on $84 an hour.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 05:35 | 2594375 Zeilschip
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She gets a paycheck once every three years.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:12 | 2593703 Al Gorerhythm
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The people "in the countryside" who Bart Chilton talks to; http://etfdailynews.com/2012/07/05/cftcs-bart-chilton-a-slick-public-rel... in Barts World, agree with him that a stiff fine and a severe frowning would be an appropriate punishment that befits the"scandalous" behaviour of criminal activity. Rest assured that Bart is fastidiously "probing" the "scandal"but can't say if a prosecution is going to happen because they are still probing to see if any criminal activity has actually occured. Meanwhile, after four years of "probing" the silver manipulation, they have finally agreed to a public meeting to see if they can reach an agreement on what a swap is. Keep looking in the countryside Bart. Check the broom closet too. The evidence will spring out at you.

Bart, I'd like to swap you a a bag of dog shit for a kilo bar of gold (Herarus stamp please, not that new Chinese plated stuff). I'll bet you'd have a definition for that transaction in a heartbeat. Waterboy.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:16 | 2593989 vast-dom
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Diamond could have thrown the entire BBA under the bus this week as they were ALL complicit! These people are insane and deluded and need to believe their own lies as if it were reality! Sick people all of them....

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 09:03 | 2594522 ghenny
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No.  Just greedy white collar criminals who should be in jail.  Most of them won't be prosecuted but they will hang out a few to dry just to keep the club safe from sharing with the rest of us as the man said.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 09:31 | 2594556 Duke of Con Dao
Fri, 07/06/2012 - 19:30 | 2593610 permafrost
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Who is going to ban the Bank of England?

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 19:37 | 2593628 EscapeKey
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the boe is now the regulator.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 19:33 | 2593616 LetThemEatRand
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The title of this Article -- and the obvious answer -- say it all.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 16:29 | 2595292 earleflorida
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indeed...KISS

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 19:35 | 2593620 EscapeKey
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integrity is so hot right now

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 19:38 | 2593630 gimli
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Yes -- all these girly men bankers will be Banned:

http://www.feelbanfresh.com/Unscented-Roll-on.aspx

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 19:39 | 2593635 LostWages
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Just a hand slap this time methinks....honor amongst thieves.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 19:41 | 2593638 Bill D. Cat
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The ripoff of the year awards are gonna be busy this fall .

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 19:48 | 2593647 daveeemc2
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BBA is made up of...wait for it....british banks.

We humans have proven time and time again bias and the inability to govern ourselves.

Self moderation, esp when there is blow, money and/or hookers involved, is an immediate nonstarter.

Likewise - that debt committee in states. Watch as congress takes steps to undo manditory cuts.

We are destined to fuk our collective selves into oblivion. Literally.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:03 | 2593966 illyia
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Workaround.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 00:49 | 2594202 strangeglove
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reacharound

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 19:53 | 2593659 Snakeeyes
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Supoose that LIBOR tracks almost perfectly with the Fed Funds Target. Would you ban The Fed too? Don't answer that!!!

http://confoundedinterest.wordpress.com/2012/07/06/libor-fixing-and-the-...

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 19:54 | 2593663 LeisureSmith
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My guess would be NO... they will skate while listening to this. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AZohBpDAhk

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 19:58 | 2593670 Seasmoke
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After all, there is all that "integrity" to be preserved.

Integrity is so pre-2008

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:04 | 2593687 Caviar Emptor
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We here at The Banker's Benevolent Association ask you all to put away your class warfare and fear-mongering and consider this: you simply lost the Darwinian struggle and we won. And you're not so squeaky clean yourselves, ok? And you wouldn't even know how to manage wealth, you'd lose it all in a few weeks. Or spend it all on your greasy food and your fat women. 

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:09 | 2593691 knukles
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Question.
Protocol.

Can I rub my greasy food on my women, pretend they're gold and eat them?
It'd make me feel ever so better.

Like the Redshield, or the Queen
Could even do a reality show to entertain the peasantry.
Live from New Versailles, here's Knukles......
 

 

 

(sigh)

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:12 | 2593704 Caviar Emptor
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I like the idea: Bankers watching muppet death-matches, making huge bets, throwing burning hot pennies to the motely crowd and laughing. Ah the glory of feudal times! 

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 00:50 | 2594204 strangeglove
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machete

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:10 | 2593696 g3h
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Tell me you just had too much of a drink, right?

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:41 | 2593701 Dr. Engali
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Integrity? Heh Heh...that's funny coming from a banker. When has a banker ever kept their word?

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 20:34 | 2593736 Yen Cross
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 Who cares if they do?  Barclays has so many (not unlike JPM) outside primary traders, that it would take a millenium to figure it all out!

  if Barclays is aced out in London, Bejing (PBoC) has a giant "Ghost City" waiting to be inhabited!

 Chinas' news later will be a joke as usual! That's I why I watch the Flash figures!

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:06 | 2593835 ziggy59
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It wasn't intentional misquoting. It was purely accidental.

When you control the dictionary you control the outcome.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 01:46 | 2594262 jez
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When you control the dictionary you control the outcome.

 

I like that so much, I'm going to steal it. (This is a banking thread, after all.)

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 21:35 | 2593910 twocents
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or will it 'ban' the govercunt of the day...?

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:05 | 2593974 El Tuco
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Off with their heads should be the cries in the streets....

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:44 | 2594041 ebworthen
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Ban Banker manipulation and legerdemain?

Whose wet dream is this?

Hasn't happened yet; why would the Kleptoligarchy start restoring the rule of law and common sense all of a sudden?

Nothing but a headline to make the sheeple believe "something" is being done, which translates to "nothing" in every language.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 23:24 | 2594100 Yen Cross
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 A man with " Vernacular"!    I suggest that you imbibe, " patience".   Yes it took every usable amount of restraint!

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:49 | 2594051 mick68
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Yes, ban the bankers cause it should be done, but toss out the entire banking system while you're at it, as it's rotten to the core. Doing this will solve nothing but would give us a fresh start, likely to be hijacked instantly by opportunists, who likely are waiting in the wings with their plan ready to spring.

Bankers aren't the problem, politicians aren't the problem, criminals aren't the problem, and zionists aren't the problem.

 

SIN IS THE PROBLEM! The same problem you and I deal with every day that makes us do stuff we regret and pay for down the line. These are simply people with access to greater money and power, and therefore can sin to much greater levels. Same $@#* but bigger pile.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:49 | 2594052 mick68
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Yes, ban the bankers cause it should be done, but toss out the entire banking system while you're at it, as it's rotten to the core. Doing this will solve nothing but would give us a fresh start, likely to be hijacked instantly by opportunists, who likely are waiting in the wings with their plan ready to spring.

Bankers aren't the problem, politicians aren't the problem, criminals aren't the problem, and zionists aren't the problem.

 

SIN IS THE PROBLEM! The same problem you and I deal with every day that makes us do stuff we regret and pay for down the line. These are simply people with access to greater money and power, and therefore can sin to much greater levels. Same $@#* but bigger pile.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:50 | 2594056 Irwin Fletcher
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Their integrity will be directed toward stimulating the economy. That's the most important thing. People still have their jobs, surely Barclays won't do it again, and everybody wins. Those fines are as good as money flowing from the 1% to the 99%. No way that money will be recycled back to Barclays or any other misbehaving bank. Problem solved. A few bad eggs. Now proceed with the fraud-as-a-business-model plan of the day.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 23:19 | 2594097 Yen Cross
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  Long live Fletch!

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 22:58 | 2594066 blueridgeviews
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Barclays will be banned just a quick as Corzine will be prosecuted. NEVER.

By the way, does anyone think this market and it's large participants haven't done far worse than this? The corruption is rampant.

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 23:10 | 2594080 HardlyZero
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Diamond's a Bank's best friend.

He took the fall so the banks don't have to.

Torches and pitchforks don't have good optics on the telly...trying to avoid any more riots.

Olympics coming up in a few weeks...would look bad.

We have to make sacrifices from time to time. /SARC

Fri, 07/06/2012 - 23:53 | 2594148 dunce
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The procedure as they themselves describe it sounds exactly like price fixing and collusion with a trust us as a check on corruption.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 00:46 | 2594196 strangeglove
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Hey F tart you think my moneies under my matress? Nope boating accident here!

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 04:09 | 2594346 torak
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"Will The British Bankers' Association Ban Barclays As It Said It Would?"

Emphatically -- No!

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 04:56 | 2594365 crowd
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No. The system works. 

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 05:50 | 2594380 Excursionist
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If only Barclays were guilty of manipulating daily submissions, then perhaps the BBA would actually follow through with its expulsion threat of yesteryear.  If most or all of the 16 - 20 banks are guilty, then the likelihood is exactly zero.

No BBA members, no LIBOR.  And even if the BBA were open to the concept of self-immolation, larger and more powerful vested interests wouldn't allow the LIBOR peg to die.  Too many securities and too much of the global 'real' economy depends on LIBOR.  What a fuckin' farce.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 07:19 | 2594426 Fist full of CDOs
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Will The British Bankers' Association Ban Barclays As It Said It Would?

Er, no. Thats not how we roll over here. Steal a bottle of water during the riots however - 6 months. 

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 07:29 | 2594431 midgetrannyporn
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Don't trust any number from a banker. Problem solved.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 09:25 | 2594549 Bansters-in-my-...
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Will the Pope shit in the woods ?

Is the bear catholic ?

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 09:25 | 2594551 shovelhead
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Time magazine might take Bob Diamond off it's 'Man of the Year' list.

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 09:40 | 2594572 Disenchanted
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Mitt crossed Diamond off his donor's list

 

Diamond Dropping Fundraising Role for Romney in London

 

The July 27 Romney fundraising dinner, scheduled for a day when Romney is in town for the Olympics, will proceed without Diamond. The financial sector has been one of Romney’s top sources of campaign contributions. Romney is a former Massachusetts governor and co-founder of Bain Capital LLC, a private-equity firm based in Boston.

 

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 12:26 | 2594840 Not Too Important
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Aren't there laws in the US prohibiting foreign contributions to US politicians? Oh, never mind . . .

Sat, 07/07/2012 - 11:03 | 2594681 Whiner
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You know how they do it, Duke. Feign incompetence to avoid prosecution; tout your complicity for bonus when no fear of prosecution. This is fear. Somebody's gotta walk the plank or system implodes.

Sun, 07/08/2012 - 06:28 | 2596010 terryfuckwit
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Bank and integrity in the same sentance you is avin a larf

Sun, 07/08/2012 - 06:28 | 2596011 terryfuckwit
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Bank and integrity in the same sentance you is avin a larf

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