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Wolfgang Schäuble: Ask Not What Germany Can Do For You, Ask How Many Government Workers You Can Fire

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And it seemed like the most innocent case of detached retina ever. On Friday, newly elected Greek PM Samaras had to be rushed to the hospital due to the rather peculiar ocular complication, only to be followed promptly by the new Finance Minister Vassilis Rapanos fainting and also being given urgent medical care. Both are procedures that require a few hours of inpatient treatment. Yet judging by the implications these two freak occurrences have had, one would image that both patients are comatose and on the same ventilator that kept former Egyptian president Hosni Mubarak half alive, half dead a week ago. The punchline, however, is that this may be the only case of detached retina in modern history that costs a country €5 billion.

From Kathimerini:

"The health problems of Prime Minister Antonis Samaras and new Finance Minister Vassilis Rapanos this weekend are changing the government’s timetable and postponing the visit of the representatives of Greece’s creditors by a week, according to state-run TV. The hospitalization of the two very people the inspectors of the European Commission, the European Central Bank and the International Monetary Fund – collectively known as the troika – wished to meet, means that the latter had to put off their visit that was originally planned for Monday."

In other words, the Troika which was supposed to come to Greece tomorrow to evaluate what little progress may have happened in order to release more cash to the insolvent country, will not have to wait until after the latest and greatest European summit, where while everyone was expecting for absolutely nothing to be decided (and certainly not the European Federalist state which is the only development that can keep the Eurozone together), suddenly the very fate of Greece in the Eurozone is once again at stake and may be decided as soon as next Friday.

State television channel NET reported on Saturday that the troika will now arrive early next month, which is after the European Union summit scheduled for June 28-29 in Brussels.

This will of course postpone further the disbursement of the next loan tranche for Athens, that was due for June and amounts to 5 billion euros.


Given that Samaras and Rapanos will stay in hospital until Monday - the former in order to recover after an eye surgery and the latter for tests to establish the reasons of his fainting on Friday – it remains unclear whether Samaras will be able to travel to Brussels for the summit and when Rapanos will swear in as Finance Minister.

Well, the detached retina may have been a fluke, and surely anyone would faint when seeing the Greek cash ledger, but adding insult to injury, and making some wonder about the odd timing of these events, is that it is suddenly becoming public knowledge what was previously only whispered in dark corridors:  namely that Greece was pretending to be reforming in exchange for money that Europe was pretending to be paying Greek society.

An AFP report observes that "Greece breached the rules of its EU-IMF loan agreement by taking on some 70,000 public sector staff in two years, undermining efforts to reduce the state payroll, a report said on Sunday."

To Vima weekly said the hirings in 2010 and 2011 were highest in local administration, health, the police and culture, where the number of employees actually increased.


It cited a report from a permanent mission to Athens of the so-called 'troika' of international creditors, the EU, IMF and the European Central Bank, and data given by outgoing finance minister George Zannias.


An unidentified troika official told the daily: "While they legislated rules to reduce the number of civil servants, they were bringing people in through the window."

It appears that all those myths of austerity were just that (as we have explained time and time again): myths.

The official added that over 12,000 people were hired by local councils even as a cost-cutting initiative merging municipalities was underway.


Zannias' report to the new government coalition after June 17 elections allegedly reveals that although over 53,000 civil servants retired in 2010, the overall number of state staff was almost steady at 692,000 people, To Vima said.


In this case, most of the vacancies were filled immediately, the daily said.


Similarly, although another 40,000 staff left in 2011, the net reduction on the payroll was only 24,000.


By this time, Greece had promised to only hire one civil servant for every five that left.


But over 16,000 people were hired instead of the allowed 8,000, To Vima said.


The report came ahead of an expected EU-IMF audit starting on Monday.

And while it is true that the bulk of the Greek "bailout" money went primarily to pay Greek creditors and the ECB, a good 20% of the cash did make its way into the Greek economy... Somewhere. Perhaps soon someone will ask just where. Did the politicians in charge of the country in the past two years steal all of that cash as well?

What happens when the Greek society, now with absolutely no hope left, and more despondent than ever, finds out that its leaders once again betrayed it? Just how many Golden Dawn members will there be in the next government election, once this government too tumbles.

Tying it all together, however, and making sure that Samaras' cabinet is doomed before the ink of its formation documents is even dry, is everyone's favorite Schrodinger finance minister (Now you see a bailout, now you don't): Germany's Wolfgang Schauble who just told Greece for the final time: no mas.

From Reuters:

Greece's new government should stop asking for more help and instead move quickly to enact reform measures agreed to in return for previous bailouts from its European partners, German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble said on Sunday.


Schaeuble told Bild am Sonntag in unusually blunt language that Greece has forfeited much of Europe's trust during the sovereign debt crisis, as reflected in an opinion poll covering the euro zone's four biggest nations and published in the paper.


"The most important task facing new prime minister (Antonis) Samaras is to enact the programme agreed upon quickly and without further delay instead of asking how much more others can do for Greece," said Schaeuble, a close ally of Chancellor Angela Merkel and Europe's most powerful finance minister.


Greece's new three-party coalition government said on Thursday it would renegotiate the terms of the 130-billion-euro bailout deal that is helping the country avoid bankruptcy.


The coalition's platform particularly challenges euro zone paymaster Germany, which has offered to adjust the lifeline's terms to make up for time lost as a result of two Greek elections since May, but refuses to revise it radically.


In a separate interview on Sunday published in Der Spiegel news magazine, Schaeuble again ruled out any form of collectivised debt such as euro bonds and defended the German government's hard line on that.


"It's because you cannot separate the responsibility for decision-making from the liability," he said when asked why Germany was so adamantly opposed. "That's true for almost everything but especially when it comes to money.


"Anyone who has the chance to spend someone else's money will do that," he added, before telling the reporter: "You'd do that and so would I. The markets know that. And so from that point of view they wouldn't be convinced by euro bonds."

So while wild speculations about this and that and the other future of the Eurozone continue, here is the bottom line:

Germany will continue pushing every peripheral country closer to the brink (which helps Germany courtesy of increasing pressure on the EURUSD, which benefits the only real net exporter and mercantilism beneficiary in the Eurozone - Germany - by now only absolute economic dilettantes don't seem to understand this) until such time as PIIGS (and then all the other formerly core - here's looking at you socialist "fairness doctrine" entrants) come begging for any scrap that whoever is in charge of Germany will be willing to hand them, in the form of a Debtor In Possession loan of course, and thus accretive to Bunds. If that means presenting their gold to the German Cash4Gold pawn shop under the guise of a Redemption Fund or whatever it is called, so be it. Unless of course, everyone keeps demanding that Germany bail them out. In which case Merkel will just unpack that brand spanking new shipment of DEMs and be done with it.

The only winner out of this: Syriza's Tsipras who is sitting and cackling like a madman as everything is happening precisely as had been anticipated. Until the moment, that is, when he is elected to lead the country. At that point we are not sure whose life will be more of a living nightmare: his... or whoever is elected president in the US 2016 elections.


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Sun, 06/24/2012 - 17:43 | 2556427 jcia
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Fire them all. Only keep the government agencies that can manage their Balance Sheet to be kept at 0.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 17:59 | 2556451 Skateboarder
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No one's going anywhere - just another drab episode of the Euro sitcom guys.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:18 | 2556485 knukles
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They said they'd only hire one replacement for every five public servants who left.
100% of the departures are classified as public servants while 100% of the hires have been classified as disabled retirees on holiday.

Just what the fuck do those irascible demanding Germans want?  The Greeks have fully complied with their end of the bargain.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:26 | 2556503 Colombian Gringo
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Stupid Greeks deserve the German Dick in their mouths for re electing the same greek politicians. criminals  that brought them to this place firstly.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:36 | 2556518 Skateboarder
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From what I understand from all the hullabaloo over the last few months it looks like Greeks are all ducks, and they have been sitting for a while.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 20:54 | 2556739 UP Forester
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Funny all the news stories with cancer patients not getting meds, but the two highest mafioso get immediate treatment.


Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:47 | 2556540 sunaJ
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* - if - there are 2016 elections.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 21:14 | 2556767 sablya
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What do you mean?  Obama will have the constitution changed so he can be elected God.


BTW, first time I've seen futures red in a long time.  Kind of refreshing to see.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 22:08 | 2556848 Offthebeach
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You have to hire more people to manage the firing.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 20:01 | 2556653 vast-dom
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for the final final final infinitum.....and so it goes......wake me when the eurozone keels over please....

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:02 | 2556455 CrashisOptimistic
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"I can't see!  I can't see!"

Mr. Prime Minister, Germany has agreed to the next tranche of payment.

"I can see!  It's a miracle!!"


Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:07 | 2556464 toady
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"I can't see, I can't see"!

"What's wrong"?

"I got my eyes closed"!

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:18 | 2556484 Rusticus
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While a detached retina is serious, it's his detachment from reality that is terminal.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 21:51 | 2556823 mvsjcl
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"I can't see, I can't see"!

Not watching where the huskies go.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 20:57 | 2556551 HD
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With our system of governmentology and cronyomics you must create larger government and hire even more workers to "study" how many workers to let go. After a few years the new "how many people should we fire" agency reports it can't do it's job without more funding and yet more workers.

Bureaucracies - government or otherwise, always get bigger until they are crushed by their own weight.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 17:50 | 2556430 falak pema
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If you fire too many you kill consumption. Its a bitch to be in recession as the spiral gets worse. Devaluaton is the way out. Pronto!

Its time for the Germans to realise their banks and french banks are gonna get singed on this if not burnt. Next fire is Spain/Italy. That is the true divide between world depression and world depression squared or cubed. Or Nuked. The ECB has to go to Eurobonds one day and fiscal harmony before that. But time waits for no one and debt drowns even the best swimmers.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 17:55 | 2556445 Wolferl
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No German cares about banks. Banks are irrelevant in Germany. They all can go to hell. If you want to blackmail the Germans you´ve got the wrong arguement. Try another one.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:08 | 2556466 Sudden Debt
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That bun doesn't taste that good anymore HHMMM??

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:35 | 2556516 Tirpitz
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"No German cares about banks. Banks are irrelevant in Germany."

The major problem - besides them money houses being bankrupt - is that banks control the government. Entirely. Ackerman celebrated his 60th year of Earthly destruction right at the teet of the [M|F]erkel.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 19:13 | 2556578 fockewulf190
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Exactly. Most middle class Germans care about their own wealth, and with interest rates for savings accounts at half a percent on average, many are bunkering their wealth into hard assets like real estate, gold, and cash under the mattress. Few Germans own stocks because many were burned over the last 10 years and now avoid the market like the plague. Unfortunatly, many own life insurance policies and are being raped by the fees and the crappy returns. Business here has all but disappeared

People hate banks here just like most other western nations do. The really rich and the elite think otherwise, but of course when the shit hits the fan, their asses are safe because they own a shitload of real estate, gold and have piles of cash...all over the world.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 02:58 | 2557055 The Age of Usef...
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LoL! Another Bild reader who thinks he has an opinion.

If your bluff is called and the 1.3 trillion (minimum estimated) exposure detonates with all the derivatives on top of that exploding too, you won't have banks, an economy or a job. But at least you'll still have the Bild articles about trannies to read. And a very competitive DM.

Keep underestimating your Frankfurt boys thinking they'll just go to hell but let you live happily everafter, riding into the sunset and all that. By the time you realise who Merkel is working for, she will be winning an Oscar in Hollywood.

Good luck.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 03:02 | 2557063 TruthInSunshine
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Falak Pema channels Paul Krugman.

Hey, Falak - Let's say that your "when one is in an extreme debt hole, laboring under the weight of an unbearable tower of bills not yet paid, the best thing to do is rack up some more debt, and use it to hire useless and unneeded government hacks that produce nothing of value..." theory is even remotely non-insane.

If you're Greece or Spain (it will be Italy's turn in less than 5 months, and France's in under a year, maximum), where are you going to get the money to hire more government hacks so as to "stimulate the economy?"

Oh, that's right. You would need to have your existing debt forgiven, you would need to have a very wealthy and generous neighbor provide you with large transfers of wealth (extracted from their own citizenry), and you could then go on pretending that you (and your now far less wealthy neighbor) are not going to have to go through the same exercise 6 months, a year, 18 months from now, and henceforth and forevermore.

And that's because you didn't bother to cure the disease that put you into your critical condition in the first place, did you? And a big part of the cause of the disease that put you into your critical condition was excess spending, as in spending more than you made, including deficit spending on expanding an already bloated and inefficient government sector, right?



Hire some more government workers and everything will certainly work out.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 06:22 | 2557160 The Age of Usef...
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Your name should be TruthInCliches.

Here is an exercise for geniuses like you. Imagine debt as a big, heavy stone. You have trouble moving that stone. If you shrink, will it be easier to move it?


Think about it and come back to me.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 10:27 | 2557716 StychoKiller
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Faulty analogy!

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:04 | 2556457 icanhasbailout
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A country that is consuming more than it produces needs to kill consumption or produce more. And nothing kills production like government. Firing as many government workers as possible is what every government should be doing right now.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:20 | 2556488 knukles
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You oughta drop a note to the predident and clue him in. 

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:26 | 2556502 icanhasbailout
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an asteroid dropping on this President wouldn't clue him in

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 23:30 | 2556920 savagegoose
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they already tried firing  more gov workers. and somehow ended up with 77k on the payroll



Mon, 06/25/2012 - 01:10 | 2556999 IBelieveInMagic
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What do you mean we are not producing anything? Look at all this debt that we have produced!

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:19 | 2556486 CrashisOptimistic
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Why is ZH still getting this wrong?

THERE ARE NO MORE BANKS INVOLVED!  PSI exercise erased them out to 30 year paper that they wrote down to nearly nothing.  THEY ALREADY TOOK THEIR HIT.

Greek debt is now ECB, EU and IMF paper.  It is THAT they default on.  There are no "banks" to accept loss now.  They already did.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:41 | 2556531 Tirpitz
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Somebody might be holding the 25% after that unexpected, ominous 75% haircut. The new debt received in turn, after all, is guaranteed, and if these folks get shafted once more, they might forget about the fun of losing other people's money and turn away. Just like the Norwegian pension fund did.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 19:55 | 2556643 post turtle saver
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Furthermore, "somebody" has promised not to "do something" if their guaranteed 25% remaining is delivered as promised along with other "commitments" that were made to sweeten the taste.

If "somebody" gets shafted again then "everybody" is going to be in deep trouble.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 21:23 | 2556782 sablya
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That's absolutely not the case.  The banks are the central issue because they are the entities which hold the worthless collateral for the loans that will never be repaid.  They have fractionalized themselves into black holes.  I suppose one could say that a black hole doesn't exist but that would be a mistake, just get too close and you will be sucked into the bottomless pit yourself.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 02:37 | 2557050 The Age of Usef...
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You are wrong:


And that's just the visible part of their exposure.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 17:49 | 2556434 pain_and_soros
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I thought Germany kicked Greece out of the Euro on Friday....

guess it just never ends...

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:06 | 2556440 Sudden Debt
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Greeks use the civil service employment to force the voting process in the elections.
So I wouldn't be surprised that the rise in civil employment was to kick out Syriza.

Same here in Belgium where 35% of all working people work for the government. So whenever a politicians comes in who proposes to cut down the number they never get the votes.
All the private sector employers lost 15% of their future pensions a month ago and the public servants got a 20% raise in their pensions... Go figure...

For every job opening in the public sector, 400 applicants show up.
In the privat sector, the first on to show up for the job gets it because it takes a few months more before another shows up.

For example:
Private sector employee gets a 950 euro pension.
Public sector employee gets a 2500 euro pension. 25% higher than their last salary....

France... The same!
There they even want to let everybody who ever made more than 1 million a year pay extra taxes on THE PAST 5 YEARS because they profit from the system the most? Now when that isn't enough, it will go down to 500.000, 250.000, 100.000, 50.000, 25.000....

Can you imagine? HEY REMEMBER 2008 when you had a salary and only paid 52% income taxes on it and 21% VAT on the rest!? NOW WE WANT THE REST YOU PROFITEER!!

Either way the private sector must feel guilthy and will be squeezed out for the public sector.

And in all of this... Not a single public sector worker will ever say : MAYBE THE PRIVATE SECTOR IS PUNISHED TO MUCH!

Never will they say this! They even alteady said that the contracts say that it's normal they get their annual raises!

Socialisme sucks!!!

I could have made twice if I ever worked for the government over here!
The salaries are a outrage! And the service in return?! WHAT SERVICE?!?!?
They're a bunch of nitwitz!!

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:32 | 2556514 DoChenRollingBearing
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+ 1

Sudden Debt!  You could be just as easily be talking about California.

And it looks like Belgium, like California, has no will to correct itself.  Now California wants the private sector pensions to become more like the state pension system, complete lunacy.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 19:02 | 2556562 knukles
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What private sector pensions?
Nobody gets them anymore.

Plus, the Govt Acctg Stds Board is ruling that govt pensions will have to be accounted for like the few remaining private ones... thereby "vaporizing" the false high funding illusions.

Shit DoChen, I'll take a CalPers pension any day.
They're gonna be cut dramatically. 
I was warning my uberliberal CA public employee buddies about this many years ago and they said there was nothing wrong with the economy, tax receipts were never gonna drop, public funds were well funded in spite of what I told them about the accounting gimmicks etc., etc., etc.

Now they look at me like maybe I'm the one cause the shit.
Fuck 'em
They can caddy for me.

And even if the pension payments are cut, they still gonna be living high on the hogster.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 19:18 | 2556584 fonzannoon
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The private sector pensions are all being off loaded onto life insurance companies. It will work out fine. Yup.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 20:38 | 2556702 Sophist Economicus
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Every single government pension and social security payment will be met.    As will the ultimate redemption of every federal bill/bond.    The real purchasing power of those payments will make folks those folks cry, but the governments will have satisfied the letter of the law.    That is why the deflationists crack-me-up.    Heck, if they were right, folks on unemployment, social security and pensions would become tomorrow's winners.   Doubt it very much....

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 20:53 | 2556738 fonzannoon
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bingo sophist

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 21:39 | 2556802 Bobbyrib
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I argue that there will be temporary deflation. I do still think the US will monetize the debt, but unless Ben starts to print and soon IMHO we will continue to experience disinflation. After that deflation will hit.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 22:07 | 2556843 fonzannoon
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it's possible. i just want to win the war.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:47 | 2556539 stocktivity
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...and the stupid Germans will end up paying for it.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:52 | 2556553 Sudden Debt
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Every private worker will pay for it. For now we're all just telling joke about it but it won't last.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 17:58 | 2556448 caimen garou
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you gonna put an eye out with that 5 billion mister!

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 17:58 | 2556449 dbTX
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Government worker is an oxymoron

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:01 | 2556452 magpie
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I don't know why the Greeks with their skills in fraudulent accounting and tax evasion have not mastered the art of revising employment numbers. But you can't be perfect.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 22:03 | 2556837 mvsjcl
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They have. You should see the REAL numbers.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:02 | 2556453 CatoRenasci
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In Staub mit allen Feinden Brandenburgs!

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:44 | 2556535 Tirpitz
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Schaufle ain't no Prussian.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:02 | 2556454 Dezperado
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"In a separate interview on Sunday published in Der Spiegel news magazine, Schaeuble again ruled out any form of collectivised debt such as euro bonds and defended the German government's hard line on that.

It's because you cannot separate the responsibility for decision-making from the liability," he said when asked why Germany was so adamantly opposed. "That's true for almost everything but especially when it comes to money.

 Anyone who has the chance to spend someone else's money will do that,"

Germany is experiencing the same  kind of pressure from its partners as any taxpayer experience from the State "Gimme your money. I know better. Lets collectivise my debt"

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:30 | 2556513 covert
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they will get away wth it because corruption is "holy".

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:10 | 2556469 cherry picker
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There is no way out.  Governments should be slimmer, spend less, but when they fire all the fat cats, it hurts the economy as their wages are no longer circulating and private enterprise does not offer the opportunities to take up the slack, especially now as IT and customer sevice is going to India and manufacturing is going to China and other places.

The only way out is protectionism, give Main street workers enough of a wage to live on without government help and slowly slim down government.  This won't happen as there are too many welfare workers out there with a vote.


Sun, 06/24/2012 - 22:29 | 2556864 prole
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"Fire all the fatcats" would hurt the economy?

You are joking right? I mean you are taking down some Cass Jewstein Troll pay or just promoting statism and collectivism from the Trotskyite in your own heart?

Has any fatcat ever been fired, outside of Mussolini, Cheacescu, and KDaf? Firing fatcats has never been tried, but it would lead to a flowering of free market potential with the release of the chains of bondage that corrupt and harmful bureaucrats ARE.

Then you promote another collectivist insanity: Tariffs and protectionism? So raising taxes (on imports) and stealing more money from your own citizens would be "the way out?"

North Korea has a lot of protectionism Comrade, and no welfare. Maybe you should go there and enjoy the perfect environment to test your ecomonic theories?

AND! you got 8 up arrows for your call for Tariffs, who the Hell is upvoting your call for more taxes? The Politburo?

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:12 | 2556473 TrainWreck1
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¡Eye, caramba!

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:13 | 2556477 Jack Burton
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Actually, Great Britain is one of the masters at making Public employment by far THE most prevailing form of employment. In large areas of the UK, public employment of some form or other is the Majority employer. The North of England, vast expanses of Scotland and Wales find public workers the majority of all those employed. Were one to ADD the vast army of people living on government welfare benefits then you would find the people employed by the private sector economy to be a small minority of the total work forces.

To my amazement, the UK continues to make this communist system function and to tax the few private employers and employees to the hilt in order to get the funds to employ the majority of the population as public workers.

Let us not even get into the pay scales, the retirement packages and vacation schedules of this array of public workers. They even employee armies of people at high wages to go around and rummage through peoples garbage bins in order to document what if anything is being thrown away against public laws defining exactally what may be put in a rubbish bin, when it may be put in and in what manner it may be put in. Of course this type of emplyment scheme pertains to nearly every aspect of a persons life. Your kids will be checked in school every few months to see if they may be putting on weight, in which case a number of highly paid public employees will document your childs weight, they will bring you in to confront you over their weight and documents will be filed with various agencies to prepare the way for highly paid public employees to begin proceedings to take your overweight child away from you and make them wards of the state at taxpayer expense.

Should you claim I over blowing it, simply read the UK papers for a few months every morning and the vast array of communist measures employed against tax paying private persons will become only too clear. It is quite simply a system of highly paid communists using their vast powers to control your life and steal your money, maybe even steal your kids. It has happened, and this is documented in the press.

Let us not even begin to look into the Police State powers that the British security services employ to keep track of your every move.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:39 | 2556524 Rip van Wrinkle
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You forgot the 'charities' that are completely Government funded, the regulators paid for by the private companies via fines and levies. The 'training' companies funded by Government that don't actually train anyone to do anything useful, the private companies that recieve most if not all of their funding by way of the Government.


I would guess that well over 50% of the working population obtain most if not all their pay from the taxpayer in one form or another.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 22:07 | 2556845 mvsjcl
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Mon, 06/25/2012 - 06:24 | 2557161 MiniCooper
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Jack - you are absolutely right. I come from the UK as well and the thing that gets me is how the present Coalition Govt continues to pretend it is doing austerity but actually doing nothing of the sort. We need to cut public spending by 25% overnight. It could be done without hurting essential services but nothing is being done to really cut spending despite the electoral promises.

It feels more and more like the 1970s in the UK at the moment. We all know how that ended. We had to call in the IMF.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:16 | 2556482 FinalCollapse
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How do you say 'Fuck you' in German?

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:26 | 2556504 magpie
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Fick dich !

Also of use to our Greek friends when confronting German officials e.g Sesselfurzer - bureaucrat, Heuschrecke - bankster,financial parasite, Zecke - leech, leftist parasite.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:40 | 2556529 dogbreath
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can you explain "furzer"

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:55 | 2556556 magpie
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Combined with nazi salutes, these will make the bailout extension a breeze.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:28 | 2556507 icanhasbailout
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"Willkommen in Paris"

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 19:14 | 2556581 kikkoman
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"Auf Wiedersehen auf dem Boulevard!", you mean.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 06:53 | 2557181 Lebensphilosoph
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In modern German? Heil Hitler.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:23 | 2556495 Conman
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Schäuble seems suprised that Socialist governments want to spend other people money. Silly German, start firing up those DM printers. Get out while you can.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:47 | 2556543 Peter Pan
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During the Weimar republic the pressure on government printing presses was so great that the government contracted with over 120 printing companies to keep pace with the requirements for more cash.

Anyone that believes that either history does not repeat itself is a fool. The attempts by the Europeans to solve their problems will go down as the greatest example of modern day alchemy the world has ever known.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:24 | 2556498 static
Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:36 | 2556519 I am Jobe
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How about it in the USSA?

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:38 | 2556521 Peter Pan
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Two years ago I met with a very high ranking official from a region of Greece. He told me that a thorough investigation of their region's public servants' work practices revealed that if they could get everyone to work for five hours a day, they woud only need one third of the employees on the government's pay roll.

And there I suspect lies the problem not just for Greece but the whole world. Public employment has overridden the free market and also drained it of resources by constantly milking it to create more jobs for useless people, higher pay over time and more red tape to strangle truly productive entrepreneurs with.

Neither more government nor more debt is the solution. The quality of our public institutions has failed us whilst their reach has become more intrusive,, wasteful and dangerous.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 20:11 | 2556669 post turtle saver
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I'm tempted to ship a copy of "Thidwick the Big-Hearted Moose" to every voter in Europe and the USA. Maybe then they'll get it.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:39 | 2556526 mrkolice
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lets make a pool:


  1. Are you willing to permit greek immigrants to live in your country?
  2. Are you willing to permit greek immigrants to live in your community?
  3. Are you willing to permit greek immigrants to live in your neighbourhood?
  4. Are you willing to permit greek immigrants to live next door to you?
  5. Would you permit your child to marry a greek immigrant?



Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:50 | 2556548 Tirpitz
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[Am] willing to permit greek (and other) economic immigrants to live in our local labor camp.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 19:37 | 2556614 slewie the pi-rat
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to hell with the EU!  greece should join america!

slewieInt'lAirport:  athens to vegas direct 24 flights/day

welcome to america, comrade greek BiCheZ!  here are your first USDollar-denomiated checks...


Sun, 06/24/2012 - 20:54 | 2556741 KowPie
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I gotta tell ya.... I regularly spit more beer and coffee on my keyboard from your posts than if I had no lower lip. Best dry humor ever. Keep it rollin!

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 22:35 | 2556872 prole
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Questions 1-5, YES, Gladly, please send them at once!

Question 6- Are you willing to send MrKolice back to wherever the Hell he came from?

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:52 | 2556554 Peter Pan
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And here lies another truly incredible paradox. When Greeks become immigrants they become hard working, successful and have amongst the lowest rates of ending up in jail.

So my answers to your questions strangely enough are all YES.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:59 | 2556558 Tirpitz
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"When Greeks become immigrants they become hard working..."

Did you ever work with a Greek together??

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 19:11 | 2556575 Peter Pan
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Where i live in Australia, they seem to be amonst the most successful and prosperous of migrant groups.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 21:31 | 2556794 Tirpitz
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That's not what I doubted, and goes with organized crime gangs as well.

But: did you ever (have to) work with a Greek?

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 02:49 | 2557058 C-B77
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The Greek Mafia?


where exactly did you see that?


why don't you tell us about your experience with your Greek colleague?

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 06:57 | 2557192 Lebensphilosoph
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Judging from where most of the other migrant groups come, that's not saying anything.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 19:09 | 2556572 I am Jobe
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Sure if they are HOT


Of course College Girls and Single Moms have to compete. Prostituiton is a noble profession.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 06:56 | 2557190 Lebensphilosoph
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Where are the hot ones?

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 19:11 | 2556574 I am Jobe
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It;s like asking would u let a Greedy Ole Pig or Dumbo in your neighborhood.

To which I say neither.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 06:55 | 2557187 Lebensphilosoph
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Maybe, possibly, probably not, no , hell no.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 18:40 | 2556530 nmewn
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Waaahhh, gimme my debt binky!!!

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 19:09 | 2556555 BlackholeDivestment
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ICU, Stat(s). LMAO. I love following the money in the Fight Club. Thank's TD's, way to spike the Guyana Punch Pimp'n Whore in the Endzone. Ah haa haa haaa.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 19:13 | 2556580 Duke of Con Dao
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YouTube - Euro Roadkill of 2012: GREECE
as part of austerity the Greeks got talked into driving a VW mini-bus and of course the Germans
are driving the convertible Caddy... and the French, the taxi, so befitting that people...

best visual I have found so far to describe the mess... Duke

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 19:21 | 2556585 gnomon
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Things are so far gone now that there are only two possible outcomes, (absent World War III):

Either the State will begin to eliminate its "enemies" through gulags, executions, etc. or the People will eliminate the bureaucrats, (with guillotines, if they don't go quietly).

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 07:01 | 2557199 Lebensphilosoph
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The guillotine? If I recall correctly, it was French bureaucrats who popularised the thing.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 19:25 | 2556588 slewie the pi-rat
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fainting-couch diplomacy?

V-man never left the buffet line!

they should call for new elections just about as the troika gets off the plane next week...

attacks of the vapours are not funny;  ...monteCarlo it is...  vite!

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 19:25 | 2556589 negative rates
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Reminds me of the time when Bush sr. puked on the prime minister of Japan. People forget.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 19:47 | 2556629 slewie the pi-rat
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i remember

but only because the guy's name was takeshita

can you believe the mofa link?  to a treaty page which remained prezidentially unbarfed-upon no lesss...

North America - Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Japan (MOFA)

A Japan-U.S. summit, held in February 1989 between Prime Minister Takeshita and President Bush, was of great significance in that accord was reached ...  {end paste]

projectile, BiCheZ!  poorTakeshita! 

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 19:38 | 2556616 viator
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Nicely put.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 19:48 | 2556630 monopoly
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Hiring Govt. workers when you have a deficit and cannot even pay your bills unless you borrow more money. Ha, we would never do that here in America. Nope, not us. What is that you just said....Oh, we are also hiring govt. workers back. But we are insolvent, broke, bankrupt. What, not as long as the inmates print soon to be worthless dollars. I see. But......

Oh never mind. What a crock;

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 19:52 | 2556636 Rudini
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I don't believe either were ill. Kissinger faked a stomach problem in India and was rushed to the hospital only to be escorted out the back door and on to a plane bound for what was then Peking. That's how relations with China were opened. These two probably did the same and met with someone from Germany.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 20:09 | 2556665 Barefooted_Tramp
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Every creditor knows the advantage of keeping the debitor alive.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 20:14 | 2556673 q99x2
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Once the doctor's excuses start entering the court documents you mayswell kiss the case goodbye.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 20:15 | 2556676 chump666
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Merkel keep the EUR bid while Bunds are sold. 

She is done.

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 20:41 | 2556714 tony bonn
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"...Yet judging by the implications these two freak occurrences have had..."

freak occurences my fat ass....those "occurences" were intelligence operations with the prime suspects being the cia and the bush crime syndicate....

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 21:17 | 2556769 Seize Mars
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I kind of agree.  think some man-in-black tried to make him (them) understand that they aren't really in charge of anything.

The same thing here:

Harry Reid
John Kerry!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_370/image.jpg
W Bush

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 21:18 | 2556772 Seize Mars
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...sorry about the second link, I can't get it to work right, you have to copy the text and paste into a browser tab. It's worth it, though

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 21:39 | 2556804 Tirpitz
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second link

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 22:15 | 2556855 Arnold Ziffel
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Caesar si viveret, ad remum dareris!

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 22:33 | 2556870 pmm009
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Anyone who watches Europeans play soccer shouldn't be too surprised with this well worn tactic.  

Sun, 06/24/2012 - 23:51 | 2556937 Non Passaran
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Do the Italians still like to fake their injuries?
It seems the Greeks have learnt that skill all to well.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 00:32 | 2556973 williambanzai7
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The dog ate my Troika report...

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 02:36 | 2557048 ebworthen
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No more...

No more central bank hegemony.

No more government pandering to banks.

No more fiat currency.

No more unfulfilled generational promises.

No more generational lies.

No more...

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 04:10 | 2557094 RECISION
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Is that like a prayer to the great and merciful DOG...?

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 04:36 | 2557116 Basil
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Shame on you Zero Hedge for your flip misrepresentation of the procedure to repair a detached retina.

It's not "a procedure that requires a few hours of inpatient treatment".

It's a full fledged delicate operation that requires an operating room, anaesthetics and several tools of advanced technology.

The retina is "re-glued" using, among other technicuqes:

- a cryogenic weld,

- a laser weld,

- the introduction of a gas bubble in the vitreous humour to  force it back in place.

The "glue" is very weak.  It requires keeping the patient as still as possible, often lying on his stomach to let the gas bubble float up, for a couple of days.  After that, for a month, physical effort - especially leaning over - is to be avoided.

Your service is excellent.  It would be even better without flip misrepresentations.

Mon, 06/25/2012 - 08:12 | 2557305 WAMO556
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Sorry mano, YOU get junked for YOUR flipness. There is a HUGE difference between sarcasm/biting wit and being flippant (flip). The irony that the confluence of events would "all" happen at the same time, especially when the MEN IN BLACK are coming - just seems to coincindental, hence the biting wit and irony. I really don't care if the two politician idiots have to have their spincters probed while they are bent over - the medical procedure that you ascribe is a NONEVENT!!!

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