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This Is Your Country On Fat: Presenting 14 Years Of Exponential American Obesity

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A week ago we had the displeasure of reminding America that in 8 years three quarters of the population will be obese. We said that "many forget that a much more serious long term issue for the US (assuming anyone cares what happens in the long run) is a far more ominous secular shift in US population - namely the fact that everyone is getting fatter fast, aka America's "obesity epidemic." And according to a just released analysis by BNY ConvergEx' Nicholas Colas, things are about to get much worse, because as the OECD predicts, by 2020 75% of US the population will be obese. What this implies for the tens of trillions in underfunded healthcare "benefits" in the future is all too clear." Subsequently, The Atlantic decided to do a follow up on what it titled "The True Cost Of Unwalkable Streets" in which author Kain Benfield says: "Perhaps the single most alarming public health trend in the United States today is the dramatic rise in the number of people who are overweight and obese, bringing serious risks of heart disease, diabetes and other consequences leading to life impairment and premature death. This is bad enough as it is, but I contend that it is particularly unfortunate that we do not sufficiently recognize the extent to which these trends are caused by environmental factors, particularly the shape of our built environment."

Alas, resorting to the traditional American pastime of assigning meaningless blame when faced with a probem of epic proportions, instead of attempting to proactively resolve it, is about as expected as that of the four people around you, three will be, quite soon, morbidly fat. Because no matter who, why, when or where the obesity epidemic started, it won't end until the US welfare state is, pardon the pun, sucked dry (see "Welfare - the Great Delusion"). And if ordinary American citizens are shocked by how little Wall Streeters and politicians have changed their behvaiour, they would be speechless if only they looked in the mirror.

So while we don't have quite the suitable reflective device, here is a chart that should do the trick, coming from the same Atlantic piece. If this doesn't get one to rush out and scarf down the local (within 10 kcal or under walking distance) $0.99 McSomthing meal, nothing will.

Lastly, while the partisan bickering over whether Jeff Sessions is right or not in his estimate of a $17 trillion addition of Obamacare to future unfunded liabilities, goes on we wonder... Seriously? Because supposedly while $82 trillion in future unfunded liabilities is perfectly ok, $99 trillion is obviously a partisan hack to derail the great American plot to eat itself to death? Or something.

Instead of encouraging and enabling Americans to believe that any and every health-related issue they develop (of which the bulk originate from simply eating far too much, such as scarfing down on sugar, sugar and more sugar - which just happens to be the topic of tonight's 60 minutes), will be dealt with on someone else's dime, we have another suggestion: offer every American $100 for every pound they lose until they get to just below their ideal weight, and offer them a further $1000 each year to stay below that weight. Total cost: a tiny fraction of whatever Obamacare would cost, and the future benefits to one's credit card, to social healthcare outflows, and to society in general, would be unmeasurable.

And for those who missed it, here is 60 minutes on whether sugar is toxic (full transcript here).


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Sun, 04/01/2012 - 20:17 | 2308337 rumblefish
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bulking up before the food shortages hit!

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 20:23 | 2308351 SHEEPFUKKER

Fat citizens, bloated debt. 

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 20:32 | 2308369 DormRoom
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America: living on excess debt and calories.  It's like a pathology. Consumeritis.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 20:56 | 2308433 bonderøven-farm ass
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Easy targets......

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 21:02 | 2308454 UP Forester
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"We gotta eat, or the terrrrrist win!"

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 21:17 | 2308503 espirit
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Someone's going to be very happy during the Zombieapocalypse.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 21:26 | 2308529 Gidas19
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Meanwhile in Africa...

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 22:18 | 2308654 Gully Foyle
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Found this enlightening line regarding Pink Slime

Only someone who has never wanted for food would equate "pink slime" with dog food. Only in the extraordinarily affluent U.S. would people attack an industry for trying to make use of rather than waste food.


Full commentary here

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 22:48 | 2308723 MayIMommaDogFac...
Sun, 04/01/2012 - 23:24 | 2308788 JW n FL
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The Rich Get Richer - New Facts or?!?!? The Rich get Fater Pockets!

The Top 1% getting 93% Fatter than the rest of us.. with recovery dollars.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 23:38 | 2308803 knukles
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Who dah fuck's (burp) callin' us (chompchompchomp) fat?  Honey, bring some AAA's for the remote (phhhhhht) while you're waddlin'. (urrrrp)

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 00:20 | 2308850 Oh regional Indian
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Mechanization is the primary reason for human fattening.

As your core is lost, loosened, forgotten, your peripharies start to spread. 

Americans = Very low Core Strength.... 



Mon, 04/02/2012 - 00:57 | 2308893 Haywood Jablowme
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will read the article as soon as a find that bag of pork rinds....


Mon, 04/02/2012 - 01:31 | 2308933 Oh regional Indian
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Hmmmmm.... I just realized that a lot of ZH readership is beer swilling, probably overweight key-jockeys. Thus the red red red.

But it's true Chubsters, obese people are out of touch with their centers and this is usually because your focus is turned outward. It's quite simple when you think about it. 

Losing weight, or starting the process is simply a matter of turning inwards.

I weighed 120 Kg' sat my alcohol addled peak in the US, have a been a steady 75 for the past 8 years. 

Don't get mad, get strong.


Mon, 04/02/2012 - 02:59 | 2308993 BorisTheBlade
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Losing weight, or starting the process is simply a matter of turning inwards.

Simply is probably not that simple for most, because when they turn inwards they see nothing but emptiness. In order to fill that ever growing hole they keep eating and consuming. When they get fat, they'll blame everybody around overlooking disaster of their own making. Although you're right in a sense that it all ends and starts with oneself.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 06:42 | 2309082 Oh regional Indian
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yup yup. It's not easy.


Mon, 04/02/2012 - 12:11 | 2309807 12ToothAssassin
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I lost 30 lbs (13.6 kg) in a year a few years ago and feel so much better. It was not easy to begin but once I got going it was easier to maintain. It is very much a mind set, as soon as you recognize how that works then it gets much easier.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 13:07 | 2309970 European American
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An avaricious mind will beget an avaricious body.


Mon, 04/02/2012 - 03:26 | 2309002 kiwidor
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Sex with fat indians isn't fun.

the alcohol reference is irrelevant.  real alcoholics are thin, not fat.  if anything, alcohol in the usa is what keeps people alive

i'd hazard a guess that not moving is what kills people.  not moving is what makes people fat.  even in my old age here, i keep moving no matter how much it hurts. if you don't move, you die.  if you dont' move, you get fat, then die. horribly. 

at 43, i can still build a fence in an afternoon and not suffer the next day.  try getting a gym bunny to do that.

real work is about natural movement and that's what's missing from the USA, hence the obesity.





Mon, 04/02/2012 - 04:32 | 2309019 Oh regional Indian
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What a dumb opening statement kiwi. 

Given that your mind is in the sewer, the rest of our well said commentary is as good as shit.

Fight club is NOT low-life club.


Mon, 04/02/2012 - 23:54 | 2311933 JW n FL
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hey! wanna hamburger?

how about some fire water?


Sun, 04/01/2012 - 22:36 | 2308695 Hi Ho Silver
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..corruption prevents food aid from reaching the hungry.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 23:58 | 2308831 NumberNone
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Why does it always come back to the banks?   Bad news America is that the banks have speculated the price of food out of your reach...good news is that you all now can get on a diet. 

Amazing, banks take loans from US public.  Banks take funds to speculate which drives up food prices and thereby exasperating the national debt and sending people to eat shit foods for the low prices.  Fucking disgusting.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 03:04 | 2308996 Uber Vandal
Sun, 04/01/2012 - 21:36 | 2308532 Stax Edwards
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Hmmmm.  Td may be on to something here. 

Back of the napkin says that on top of whatever normal amount of obesity one should expect in the US we also have 50m out of 300m who eat on .gov's dime (i.e. they do not work for their food, the politicos have arranged for the productive part of society to pay for their meals).  50/300 = 17% are not actually working for their food.  One can easily see how obesity would be a problem in the US as it is often caused by lack of exercise (aka work) among other things.  It would not be surprising to a layman if US obesity levels ran, I dont know, say 17% higher, seeing that in our kinder gentler welfare state recipients are simply given debit cards to buy junk food at their convenience rather than providing merely staple foods for sustinencs such as beans and rice.  A layman might also draw the conclusion that welfare recipient who does not work and eats junk food provided by .gov all day might decide work is for chumps and just let themselves go, seeing as that takes the absolute least amount of effort with the best reward (no work, junk food all day).  So a layman might even further draw from this that, I don't know, say 17% of the population of the US would be more than willing to get off their fat ass once every four years and vote for whoever is in favor of maintaing or better yet increasing the 'free shit gravy train' they have parked their fat ass on. 

Same layman might think if .gov required that they work to get the food, they might have to get off of their fat asses and work (aka exercise) and that the obesity problem would begin to move in the opposite direction.

Seems that similar problems exist in the wilderness, but alas, the politicians have became gravely concerned with this (obesity of and dependance by wild animals on productive humans feeding them) feeding and as such it is a felony to feed, I don't know, say bears in our national parks.  And a layman might draw the conclusion that this is because bears cannot vote.

Edit: Certainly their are other conclusions said layman might draw, feel free to pick up on anything I might have missed in your replies below.



Sun, 04/01/2012 - 22:06 | 2308637 Gully Foyle
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Stax Edwards

Dude try equating this with the  technological revolution of that decade. More entertainment, more people sitting at the computer.

It isn't the rise in welfare so much as the rise of technology that replaced leisure activity with leisure.

Jim Morrison has a line in one of his poems about dancing around a fire becoming sitting wathcing tv.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 01:13 | 2308912 TBT or not TBT
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Too many calories from carbs is more the culprit than not enough exercise.   Eating carbs causes insulin production which causes adipocytes to store fat.    More exercise, on the other hand, increases appetite to match the additional energy usage.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 12:13 | 2309815 12ToothAssassin
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Moderation in ALL things is the key. Carbs, protein excercise, etc. Even it ALL out and you win.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 13:18 | 2309993 European American
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Chronic, compulsive, carnivorous overeating is a reflection of a mental aberration, emotional imbalance, or psychological flaw.

Tue, 04/03/2012 - 10:23 | 2312817 Death and Gravity
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Agreed with exception of the carnivorous part.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 21:39 | 2308567 Rubbish
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My Ghillie suit is a little tight

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 21:44 | 2308578 UP Forester
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Order a new one, now.  Pretty soon they'll stop making "shrubbery" suits, and start making "oak stump" suits.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 22:00 | 2308623 Pairadimes
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Best to wait for the new 'burning city' camo pattern, due to come out soon

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 22:04 | 2308632 Manthong
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Gotta' fill out them baggy ghetto duds..

Over 350 lbs. eats free.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 01:11 | 2308908 francis_sawyer
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Anyone care for an after dinner mint?

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 03:47 | 2309008 i-dog
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... it's way-fair theen!

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 10:03 | 2309426 GeezerGeek
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Ghille suit? What are you, a terrorist? I'm telling Big Brother.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 21:08 | 2308477 Ignatius
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The factory food system is a horror on many levels and is anchored in the heart of American life.

Why would one wonder?

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 21:53 | 2308559 DaveyJones
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It's as if the body knows it is eating poisoned cardboard when it eats off the typical GMO corn syrup shelf and it wants to take in more and more to get its nutrition. I find that the more I eat from my garden and eat nutritious plant food, the less hungry and the quicker my system feels satisfied. The Okinawans are by far the longest living people on earth. They have four times the centenarians than any other group. Very few of them are obese and most of them stay active and healty to very end. They basically eat a wide variety of multicolored vegetables. Folks have studied these people for some time and even tracked them when they move to the states and start to eat like us and guess what, they start to grow and drop like us. If we lived and ate like them, we could shut down most of the cancer wards, old folks homes, and other facilities.  Nutrition is the only health care system that works and it costs next to nothing compared to the current corruption we call medicine.   

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 22:14 | 2308647 Gully Foyle
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So, it isn't about the genetic makeup of those people but the food they eat? That maybe the long livers bred with other long livers to have long lived children?

Some Japanese on this list but they don't dominate it. Matter of fact the US has a respectable amount of longest living.


Then there is this

Rich People Live Longer Than The Poor, Study Finds

But I like this answer best of all

Because many people try and discover that the 'ways' don't work, if you don't have the same genes as those people. There is no simple step-by-step guide to living the longest life. Many people believe that diet and exercise will cure all ills, but plenty of people with 'healthy' diet and exercise drop dead from heart attacks at the age of 40.

If you're genetically predisposed to a certain disease, eating fish or something will not magically prevent you from ever getting that disease, even if fish is generally healthy.

There are lots of different groups of people who are long-lived, and they do completely different things. There's a culture in Okinawa that eats a low-calorie diet consisting mostly of fish, and they live pretty long. There's also a family in Italy somewhere where they eat TONS of red meat, and all live to over 100! There are some religious communes that tend to live much longer than average, and they do some entirely different set of weird things.

And lots of people try those techniques and die anyway.

If there *were* a simple answer, we'd all know about it. But there really isn't. Life is complicated. There are some things we know are definitely bad - like smoking, or excessive drinking. There's a LOT that medicine really isn't sure about.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 23:45 | 2308810 DaveyJones
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if it were only genetics, then they wouldn't start to drop like us when they move to America and start eating and living like us. True there are some groups that have some genetic advantages but it's mostly diet and lifestyle. Look at The China Study, it pretty much validates the Okinawan factors. 

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 23:43 | 2308811 knukles
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It's what's for garnish.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 03:50 | 2309010 i-dog
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Vegetables ... are what food eats!

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 23:47 | 2308819 azusgm
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Good link. Thanks for posting.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 00:05 | 2308836 Diogenes
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How far are they from Fukushima?

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 03:57 | 2309011 Jimmy Carter wa...
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And don't forget that Okinawa is the poorest state (prefecture) in Japan, and they like their pork done fatty!

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 22:20 | 2308660 Gully Foyle
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The real problem, as near as I can tell, is that many food activists simply don’t understand how meat is manufactured; don’t understand  how demanding average consumers are (see above about boycotts, etc.), and how difficult it is for meatpackers to make a profit on beef in particular. 

The only reason companies like IBP or Tyson or Cargill earn a profit on beef is that they control the materials from farm to grocery store; they run highly efficient packing plants; they produce in huge volume; and they subsidize FRESH beef by also making “value added” products. (Think microwavable pizzas with beef, or cans of chili con carne.) It’s incredibly difficult to make a profit on FRESH meat in general and beef in particular.

You get my point: Pink Slime isn’t unsafe. You may not like its appearance, but unsafeness (is that a word) does not follow from unpleasant appearance. (LOTS of things in life are unpleasant to look at, but it doesn’t follow that they’re unsafe. Think, oh, I dunno: giving birth? Slaughtering an animal?)

What I find most interesting about the PS uproar is how much, alas, it resembles the prohibitionist movement of a century ago: Fear-mongering. Half truths. Appeals to emotion rather than fact and reason. 

Don’t get me wrong: I agree with the food activists on many points. Many. What I object to is the, how shall I put it? --- tone of hysteria attached to their work. The self-righteous “we don’t like it and therefore it’s bad and screw the truth and facts” tone of their approach.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 22:56 | 2308734 MayIMommaDogFac...
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People die giving birth -- just sayin'.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 00:07 | 2308837 Ignatius
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My thinking goes a little further than you might have anticipated.

God/nature gives us a system where we must kill to eat.  We are omnivores.  That said, the way in which we raise and harvest our food is completely immoral accross the board.  Do we wonder why it is and has been illegal to see and photograph what actually happens in a slaughterhouse?  And it's not just how we treat the animals, but also the physical and spiritual damage done to the poor souls who feel they must work long days in these mechanistic hell holes.  These are unsustainable systems and heavily subsidized.  Read Polan's "The Omnivore's Dilema" if interested, for further discussion (it changed my life).

At this point I eat grass fed beef, local fresh eggs, fruits and vegetables.  It costs more.  It costs more to graze the beef, to let the chickens and pigs root around in the open air and dirt.  But it's ecologically sound and requires no formal subsidy.  If I pay more then I'm glad to do it. 

Please don't take this as a moralistic finger-wag on my part.  I ate the factory crap for years before I was willing to look at it and see it for the sacrileges abomination that I now see that it is.  To each his own in his own good time.

Maybe think of it like this.  I'm not a pacifist, but I do not support these ridiculous, aggressive wars.  I'm not a vegetarian, but I refuse to support an immoral food system. 

What does it mean on a 'mass' scale?  A lot more people (jobs!) in agriculture... with the dignity and respect they deserve.




Mon, 04/02/2012 - 06:15 | 2309064 DRT RD
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I'm with ya Ig.  My wife and I watched Food Inc. and competely changed out eating habits.  In the freezer now is a 1/2 beef, 1/2 pork, and this week getting 10 pastured chickens. Had to sell an ounce of of the shiny stuff last fall to get the cow, but it was well worth it.  Looking to buy another half this fall.



Mon, 04/02/2012 - 06:09 | 2309062 DRT RD
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I just love ammonia coated beef!

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 22:34 | 2308689 Stuck on Zero
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Bisphenol-A (BPA) is used in plastics everywhere and for the packaging of foodstuffs.  In many animal studies it has been shown to be a potent hormone mimic that causes early sexual maturation and obesity.  It is detectable at rather high levels in 90% of all Americans. Today, the FDA, ignoring 30+ research studies said it's good for you and manufacturers can continue to use it in packaging ( HFCS or high-fructose corn syrup contains high-levels of an isomer of fructose that causes liver fat deposits and surpresses appetite control.  The FDA says it's good for you.  The FDA, as we all recall, is that government agency that protects criminals from consumers ... pretty much like all the other three letter agencies.

Eat organic, stay thin.



Sun, 04/01/2012 - 23:02 | 2308746 Dr Benway
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Organic foods have no advantages whatsoever, they aren't better tasting or more nutritious or better for the environment. It's a total scam.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 23:55 | 2308827 azusgm
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I'd rather be healthy with my boring, old-fashioned organically grown veggies from heirloom seeds. Feel free to volunteer to be a guinea pig for Monsanto and their ilk just don't include me unwittingly.

So, real food is a scam. Bizarre assertion.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 00:43 | 2308880 Dr Benway
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If you buy organic food you are falling for a marketing scam. Scientific studies debunk every one of the organic lobby's claims.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 01:17 | 2308920 TBT or not TBT
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And Angus Beef is just meat from animals that had darkish hair at their end in the slaughterhouse.    That's it.   They get a premium for that, so ranchers breed their cattle of every breed darker nowadays.   Marketing.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 06:25 | 2309069 DRT RD
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Dr. Benway,

Screw science, I have seen it with my own eyes.  I am not eating something from a field that has been posted with a sign that says, BEWARE HARMFUL HERBICIDE AND PESTICIDE HAVE BEEN SPRAYED HERE.  

I live in the Deep South, used to work on a farm.  Simms, the guy i worked under, had to wear a futuristic bubble suit when spraying the pecan grove to protect him from the chemicals.  You mean to tell me that it's ok to ingest said chemicals but not ok to have them touch my skin?  I may be dumb, but I ain't stupid.  Additionally, I have seen the effects of poisoned eggs on coyotes, crows, racconns, possums, and other wildlife.  The poor bastards don't it 3 feet from the egg before they die.  It's caled Timik. look it up. Sorry I don't want that stuff in my body.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 03:41 | 2308991 NorthPole
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Organic food for the most part is a marketing scam. I am not talking about the carrot you grow in your garden out back; I am talking about 90% of food that's mass-produced by corporations and peddled in supermarkets with the 'organic' label.

Take a look at

I repeat: 90% of what you see in the organic section in a supermarket has nothing to do with your local community organic farmer. It is still the very same Cargill growing same old shit (and using pesticides from the approved list only) and peddling it to you for 50% more.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 04:45 | 2309026 ydderf1950
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used yo eat the the junk along with a box of bicarb a week. went non gmo and organic no more heartburn and feel much better hmmmm.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 03:59 | 2309004 kiwidor
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YEP.  no food stored in plastic containers here.  a little effort required, but things work well as a result :)

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 04:08 | 2309012 i-dog
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"The FDA says it's good for you."

Those criminals should be indicted for crimes against humanity!! (and not just for HFCS, but for encouraging many other food processing and packaging crimes).

Fructose is a poison. Glucose is readily absorbed by the digestive system. The body has evolved to process a 50/50 mixture of fructose and glucose (otherwise known as sucrose, or cane sugar). But as the percentage of fructose rises above 50%, it can only be processed by the liver ... ie. by definition, it is a poison. Some HFCS is as high as 90% fructose!

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 09:23 | 2309310 Liposuction
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Organic food stuffs have absolutely no bearing on whether or not people are thin.  I know plenty of people that are fat and eat strictly organic stuff.  Good grief.  People that sit around all day and stare at screens get fat.

I eat a lot of stuff that's bad for me, but I'm not fat.  I work out and burn calories.  Fat people don't.  FFS.


Next up: How vaccines are hurting us! OMGZ~~!1



Mon, 04/02/2012 - 00:46 | 2308885 Race Car Driver
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Well, one could wonder - if one were a kook - why chemtrail spraying creates droughts in some areas where beef cattle are raised, creating a shortage of fresh grasses and hay; forcing farmers to purchase genetically modified supplimental feed for said beef cattle from some large corporations that own patents on GMOs that produce said feed - including patented artificial sweeteners, from same corporations, to make the unpalatable feed more palatable - creating huge profits for said corporations. The GMO's - of which we don't really understand the long-term effects on humans - is then transferred into the foodchain to create obesity and an increase in autoimmune diseases. These manufactured diseases are another profit means for the already bloated and oxymoronic healthcare system. 

But again, you'd have to be a kook to ponder such nonsense.


Mon, 04/02/2012 - 09:26 | 2309319 Liposuction
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I stepped on an ant in my driveway and then I noticed I had weeds growing out of all of the cracks in my driveway.  It must be that stepping on ants creates weeds in the cracks in my driveway.

Correlation MUST EQUAL causation. (Right?)

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 23:34 | 2311884 Race Car Driver
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I said it was kookery, damnit. Are you some kind of kook? Do you really believe these events are even real? Else, what are you arguing about?

Go troll someone else.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 12:28 | 2309859 Iwanttoknow
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RCD,thanks for bringing up chemtrails.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 21:41 | 2308569 A Nanny Moose
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It really comes back to who is responsible for edu-mah-kashun of the proles.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 22:01 | 2308625 RafterManFMJ
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1000 dollars per year would buy me case and a half of Schlitz per week! I support this plan.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 20:32 | 2308367 Unprepared
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"In the long run, we are all fat"


Sun, 04/01/2012 - 22:41 | 2308705 Fred Hayek
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So, Krugman reached "the long run" at least 10 years ago?

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 20:40 | 2308382 bgilliam83
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FAIL!  more body mass requires more calories to sustain.  Have fun at the Fema camp

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 20:46 | 2308401 flacon
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Body blubber helps keep whales warm in the winter. Perhaps FEMA camps will be cold - load up the blubber now before it's too late! 

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 21:22 | 2308513 espirit
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Fat people carrying gold run real slow and are an easy catch.

Heh heh.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 21:47 | 2308585 A Nanny Moose
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rofl @ that !

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 22:22 | 2308663 Gully Foyle
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Now I don't know but I've been told
It's hard to run with the weight of gold
Other hand I heard it said
It's just as hard with the weight of lead

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 09:39 | 2309352 sdmjake
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Spent a little time on the mountain
Spent a little time on the hill
I saw things getting out of hand
I guess they always will

I don't know but I been told
if the horse don't pull you got to carry the load
I don't know whose back's that strong
Maybe find out before too long...

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 20:51 | 2308410 Temporalist
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What are they serving for dinner tonight?

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 23:53 | 2308825 knukles
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A small teenie tiny piece or 2 of veggie garnish around a large steak, juicy lamb shank, multiple pan fried sausages, fried chicken and a large pot of steak tartare.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 00:16 | 2308845 Ignatius
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The PETA types (never kill animals crowd) are the biggest block to a moral food system.  We are omnivores.  They are idiots.  If they choose to be vegetarians, fine.  As a wise old Buddhist sage quipped when asked why he was a vegetarian, he said "because they don't scream as loud when you kill them."

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 21:24 | 2308523 Floordawg
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Ever sit next to some fat fuck spilling out of his seat on a cross country flight? Imagine air travel in 2020 when chances are there's 2 bloated bags of shit spilling out on either side of you... Jesus, what a nightmare.

If your fat and this offends you, then drop your Costco sized bag of pork rinds and go fuck yourself!


Sun, 04/01/2012 - 21:39 | 2308531 DaveyJones
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luckily, few will be able to afford air travel in 2020 with peak oil and other factors 

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 21:48 | 2308589 A Nanny Moose
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Air travel of 2020 will be powered by unicorns that shit skittles.


Sun, 04/01/2012 - 23:39 | 2308805 Spastica Rex
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The Heavenly Host will cry tears of petroleum before mankind has to stop taking air vacations.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 21:48 | 2308592 i_fly_me
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Who the hell still uses air travel?  If I'm not jumpin' out of it, I'm not flying in it.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 22:24 | 2308667 Gully Foyle
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I imagine you would never say shit like that to some Black man, or a Hispanic or a big hairy biker.

Odds are you would never have the courage to say that shit in anyones face.

Cowards all speak the harshest when they are safely hidden.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 00:19 | 2308847 AgShaman
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Odds are you would never make a post that didn't include putting someone's user profile link at the top...

Then proceed to pour out your drivel with the entire bold print font.

I know you need extra help to make your points, but fuckin' hell, your one annoying bastard.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 01:09 | 2308858 Floordawg
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(edited for brevities sake)

I imagine, odds are your a huge tub of shit that got his feelings hurt.

Heres an idea, instead of lashing out at some fool trying too hard to be a comedian, why don't you drop that chubby paw full of peanut M&M's and fill the VOID in your life with some push-ups instead of dead calories.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 21:38 | 2308565 r00t61
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Sorry, fat is inactive tissue.  No energy is required to "maintain" fat once your adipose tissues swell.  You could argue that it takes more energy to move an obese body around, but last time I checked, most obese people have an activity level far lower than the norm, and the ones that do go outside are usually on their electric scooters.

Muscle, on the other hand, is active tissue.  It requires energy to just maintain muscle, and even more energy to build it. 

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 23:01 | 2308745 Crumbles
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Adipose tissue has been shown to produce a hormone-like substance. It also appears our body fat cell count remains static from age five on - what does change is the amount of fat within the tissue. Ie: how swollen with fat globules are the individual cells.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 23:56 | 2308829 knukles
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Mess with my scooter and you mess with the whole trailer park.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 01:23 | 2308926 TBT or not TBT
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Yeah but extra muscle doesn't burn a whole lot of extra calories per day to the point that extra muscle explains leanness.    The main factors for leanness are youth(insulin resistance increases with age) and % of calories from carbohydrates.    Amount of excercise is a second or third order factor of far lesser significance.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 21:42 | 2308574 WhackoWarner
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Yeah so amusing. Sugar is rampant. Who with any intellignece would lace toothpaste./baby food with sugar? Who would feed themselves with GMO laced coen syrup and soy additives? Who would feed the rat in the pantry slime hambrger? Looked at the arsenic content in baby food lately?

Fat fucking spoiled nation that allows all of this to happen. Lazy, spoilt, uneducated idiots. That is the worldview of the USA.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 21:53 | 2308604 A Nanny Moose
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On a biz trip to jpn, I noted the contents of the vending twinkies, some soda. But could buy Ito-En green tea or barley sugar. Pockey was dark chocolate not milk. FFS.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 21:59 | 2308618 WhackoWarner
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AND a great deal the replies to this topic show the ignorance of a nation of self-deluded fools. I actually had an obese woman idiot from the Upper 50 states tell me a few years back that the USA looked after all their "own". She was criticising Canadian Health Care. This fat tourist told me that all that all in the hookers Washington state had health insurance.


guesss she was on state subsidy Crack. Probaby better that eating the crap that is on Monsanto shelves.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 21:55 | 2308611 Gully Foyle
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For fucks sake

Study: Obese People Live as Long as Slimmer People

Study: Overweight People Live Longer

In the newly published study, researchers used data from an ongoing Canadian national health survey to follow more than 11,000 adults from the mid-1990s to 2007.

Compared to people who fell into the normal-weight category:

  • Those classified as underweight were 73% more likely to die.
  • Those classified as extremely obese with BMI of 35 or greater were 36% more likely to die.
  • Those classified as obese with BMI 30-34.9 had about the same risk of death.
  •  Those classified as overweight with BMI 25-29.9 were 17% less likely to die.

Obese people have an advantage when it comes to surviving illness   Fat people have a survival edge over skinnier people in the face of critical illness, new research shows.


Fat guys survive car crashes better The study, by Dr. Michael Sivak and Dr. Jonathan Rupp, found that belted drivers with a body mass index (BMI) of 35 to 50 have a 22 percent lower probability of being killed in a crash than belted drivers with a BMI between 15 and 18.4.

BMI is a calculation based on weight and height, and the CDC uses it because, for most people, it correlates with their amount of body fat. Anyone with a BMI of 30 or more is considered obese. At 30 BMI, we're talking about someone who is 5-foot-9 and tips the scale in excess of 203. If your BMI is 45, you're hauling around more than 300 pounds at that height.

Ladies: This does not apply to you. Although rotund fellows fare better in serious accidents in which they are wearing a seatbelt, the same is not true for heavy women. Belted females with a BMI between 35 to 50 have a 10 percent higher probability of being killed in a crash than women with a normal BMI between 18.5 and 24.9, the study found.

Obese folk are at a disadvantage if they forego the seatbelt, the study found. Unbelted fat men had a 10 percent higher probably of dying than skinny guys who weren't belted. There was no statistically significant difference among BMI categories for unbelted women, although for belted females, those with a normal BMI had the lowest risk of being killed.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 00:30 | 2308864 Ignatius
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Any report on the size of the people conducting this study?

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 00:47 | 2308887 squidward
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No correlation or causation fallacies possibly here.  I haven't seen as many fatties in Mini's as SUV's and Pick ups.  It couldn't be that big people drive bigger vehicles with larger crumple zones lowering mortality rates.  

You forgot to add that the morbidly obese are far less likely to die of drowning and anorexia.  

Terminal cancer patients usually aren't filling up plus sized coffins, any adjustment for illness that causes weight loss?

Just visit a rest home and tell me how many centenarians are obese. 

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 05:15 | 2309043 Mitzibitzi
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"Just visit a rest home and tell me how many centenarians are obese."

As it happens, my step-daughter just finished her college work placement in such a home. Since I wondered what the answer to your question was likely to be, I asked her. I'm not sure how representative one care home is likely to be, of course, but...

Care home population somewhere between 125 and 135. In the 70-80 age group, there were a few fatties. Maybe 10-15 percent, Sam reckons. Maybe 20-25% if you were being very critical and counted people who were merely a bit chubby, but not actually obese. From 80 upwards, there were only a couple and of the 7 or 8 who were over 100, there were none at all.

Also bear in mind this is a UK rest home in an area that still has significant agricultural and industrial employment, if not quite as much as it did a few years ago. Other regions and countries will likely vary somewhat, I suspect.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 22:35 | 2308693 masterinchancery
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Yes, but the FDA or whoever does this stuff changed the standard for obesity, lowering it, in between those 2 charts.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 20:19 | 2308339 Azwethinkweiz
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Epic Meal Time bitchez

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 21:49 | 2308595 tmosley
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Those guys are Canadians, FYI.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 22:57 | 2308736 Azwethinkweiz
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If I said, "Yan Can Cook bitchez" would you have said that guy is Chinese, FYI?


Sun, 04/01/2012 - 20:19 | 2308340 urbanelf
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Some economic collapse might actually do us some good.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 05:24 | 2309045 Mitzibitzi
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As a species, it undoubtedly will. Not much fun, though, for those of us that don't survive the culling process, however necessary it probably is in the long run. In my personal opinion, too many people have forgotten (no doubt exactly as they were indoctrinated to!) that a bit of hard work and self-control occasionally can actually be it's own reward. Spent a fun afternoon yesterday knocking together some raised growing beds in the back yard. Swinging a hammer in the sunshine, for one's own ultimate benefit, is one of life's greatest pleasures, I reckon. Especially when there was roast free-range chicken, homegown veggies and a chilled bottle of Wychwood Goliath beer to look forward to at the end of it.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 20:20 | 2308344 Eireann go Brach
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Well American tourists are known as "The Fat Yanks" abroad!

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 20:32 | 2308368 swissaustrian
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Yep. Overweight and bad clothing.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 20:53 | 2308416 Jason T
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When I went to China, Americans stood out like beached whales.  I myself however not obese.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 20:21 | 2308345 Gidas19
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after reading this, i might go to burger king and get couple of whoppers....

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 20:21 | 2308346 CryingBear
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Republicans are obese?

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 20:26 | 2308357 Fail2Deliver
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And their mothers dress them funny.
Sun, 04/01/2012 - 20:36 | 2308374 nmewn
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I don't recall Michelle Antionette singling them out...but hey...I like big butts and I cannot lie ;-)

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 22:31 | 2308681 Goldilocks
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Sir Mix A Lot Baby Got Back Best Quality (4:14)

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 23:59 | 2308832 knukles
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Feeemba camp for you for criticizing the cover girl of wookie wear daily, dude

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 20:21 | 2308347 ZeroPower
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Fatter people in the darker states... you know exactly what i'm implying.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 20:40 | 2308386 Cash-NonCash
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I miss the government cheese!  What happened to my cheese?!  I'm hoping Obamacare brings back the cheese; if he really cares, I'll get my cheese... And some nilla wafers...

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 21:22 | 2308515 Harbanger
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Before food stamps, a welfare diet consisted of a block of cheese, a whole bologna, powdered milk and a box of oatmeal that you would go to pick up from a Govt. center.  No fatties and very motivated to get off the dole.  We will return to this after the Socialist experiment implodes.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 01:25 | 2308929 TBT or not TBT
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Wow, that used to have more fat and protein then, than the federal food pyramid has held for the last 4 decades or whatever.    More...Atkins-like.   

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 21:53 | 2308605 natty light
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Let's all leech off the state

Gee, the money's really great


Sun, 04/01/2012 - 20:24 | 2308348 jonjon831983
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Nassim's parable of the Thanksgiving Turkey sounds appropriate here.


Difficulty finding direct quote, but here we go:


"Taleb also illustrates the problem of induction with the parable of the Thanksgiving turkey. Imagine that a turkey is born on a farm. Every day, it is fed regularly and has a shelter to sleep in. For 1,000 days, the turkey has a very happy and perfectly content existence. The turkey wakes up on the 1,001st day and expects more of the same. However, that day is Thanksgiving and the turkey finds himself on the chopping block. The turkey used inductive reasoning to conclude that because every day so far had been happy, the next day must be happy as well, and his conclusion was obviously false. Thanksgiving day is a Black Swan event for the turkey because he couldn’t have predicted his fate, but it is a white swan event for the farmer. After all, he’s the one doing the chopping." - re: Nassim Nicholas Taleb via

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 01:59 | 2308957 Vic Vinegar
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NNT's thoughts on turkeys don't do much for me in any way, shape or form.

This at least makes me want to dance:

Go long, BAC, spacemonkeys!

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 20:23 | 2308349 QEsucks
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Again utter bullshit. Rate of obesity is 30% and leveling off. The idea that 75% of the adult population would eat themselves to OBESITY- BMI=30 is total bullshit. WE are SPARTANS !

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 20:49 | 2308406 lizzy36
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Look around you.

Everytime i visit the States i am astounded at the number of young fat people. 

17.5% of children/adolescents are OBESE. Another 15% are overweight. Those level are 3x higher than they were ONE generation ago. Twenty-five years ago, about 2% of all kids diagnosed with diabetes were type 2. Now that number is closer to 30%. Some studies suggest that 1 in 3 kids born after the year 2000 will end up diabetic. 

The great thing about smokers is they died. The shitty thing about obesity is that it creates chronic illness. 

You know who likes chronic illness:big pharma & insurance companies. 

One of the greatest things big business and big government ever did, was massively overfeed the population. Makes them docile and dependent. 

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 21:14 | 2308492 jcaz
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LOL- and in what country are people becoming leaner?

Protein costs money-  poor people eat carbs....  Less money, more fat.

It's not sloth that makes the world fat- it's cheap, easy, shitty food.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 21:28 | 2308535 lincolnsteffens
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Yes poor people eat carbs and cheap manufactured "food". Poor people in Latin America eat beans and rice which is cheap protein. Obesity is good for the economy. Food factories produce more junk food. Hospitals and doctors have to treat and supervise more patients. Drug companies sell more drugs to treat disease. With Obama care no one need take responsibility for their own health. No matter what brand of health destroying behavior you choose as your favorite your insurance cost is the same unless you you are too poor to pay and more likely to not understand the correlation between health and behavior.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 21:41 | 2308572 DaveyJones
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actually, you can get plenty of cheap plant based protein and according to the China Study and other data, you stay much healthier and avoid a lot of disease.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 23:44 | 2308812 Spastica Rex
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The paleos are going to beat you over the head with a club.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 03:43 | 2309006 mholzman
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Protein is good but carbohydrates are not your enemy: Go on a diet of containing lots of carrots, apples, potatoes, ... spend time in the produce section. It's cheaper than McDonalds and very low in calories. Honestly, I think much of this is lack of time, lack of focus on health, too much on the job.

Foods high in carbohydrate include fruits, sweets, pastas, beans, potatoes, bran, rice, and cereals. Carbohydrates are a common source of energy in living organisms. Foods high in carbohydrates contain essential vitamins unavailable in fats and proteins. Fiber is also critical to our health. 

Carbohydrate and protein contain 4 kilocalories per gram, while fats contain 9 kilocalories per gram. In the case of protein, this is somewhat misleading as only some amino acids are usable for fuel. 

Based on the effects on risk of heart disease and obesity, the Institute of Medicine recommends that American and Canadian adults get between 45–65% of dietary energy from carbohydrates. The Food and Agriculture Organization and World Health Organization jointly recommend that national dietary guidelines set a goal of 55–75% of total energy from carbohydrates, but only 10% directly from simple carbohydrates: sugar. Sugar is a carbohydrate.

Suggestion: stay away from that chocolate easter bunny.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 21:57 | 2308614 Gully Foyle
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For fucks sake

Study: Obese People Live as Long as Slimmer People

Study: Overweight People Live Longer

In the newly published study, researchers used data from an ongoing Canadian national health survey to follow more than 11,000 adults from the mid-1990s to 2007.

Compared to people who fell into the normal-weight category:

  • Those classified as underweight were 73% more likely to die.
  • Those classified as extremely obese with BMI of 35 or greater were 36% more likely to die.
  • Those classified as obese with BMI 30-34.9 had about the same risk of death.
  •  Those classified as overweight with BMI 25-29.9 were 17% less likely to die.

Obese people have an advantage when it comes to surviving illness   Fat people have a survival edge over skinnier people in the face of critical illness, new research shows.


Fat guys survive car crashes better The study, by Dr. Michael Sivak and Dr. Jonathan Rupp, found that belted drivers with a body mass index (BMI) of 35 to 50 have a 22 percent lower probability of being killed in a crash than belted drivers with a BMI between 15 and 18.4.

BMI is a calculation based on weight and height, and the CDC uses it because, for most people, it correlates with their amount of body fat. Anyone with a BMI of 30 or more is considered obese. At 30 BMI, we're talking about someone who is 5-foot-9 and tips the scale in excess of 203. If your BMI is 45, you're hauling around more than 300 pounds at that height.

Ladies: This does not apply to you. Although rotund fellows fare better in serious accidents in which they are wearing a seatbelt, the same is not true for heavy women. Belted females with a BMI between 35 to 50 have a 10 percent higher probability of being killed in a crash than women with a normal BMI between 18.5 and 24.9, the study found.

Obese folk are at a disadvantage if they forego the seatbelt, the study found. Unbelted fat men had a 10 percent higher probably of dying than skinny guys who weren't belted. There was no statistically significant difference among BMI categories for unbelted women, although for belted females, those with a normal BMI had the lowest risk of being killed.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 22:57 | 2308731 Fred Hayek
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I hate "research" which presents correlation as causation. First of all, the BMI is a joke of a statistic. And, the stuff about obese people living as long as slim people is skewed because a lot of fat people get a disease and waste away and then die as a relatively thin person. They were sick fat. And a fair number of those who die "underweight" are drug addicts. It's a significant negative factor in one's health to be overweight. On top of that, it simply feels better to be in good shape.

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 00:20 | 2308851 azusgm
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Then you'll understand and be ticked by this dissection of the bad and fraudulent research that has guided some of the core dogma in medicine for the past few decades.

I bought two DVD copies of this guy's movie because it includes his speech that is available on YouTube. Here's the link to Part I.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 21:29 | 2308541 johnnynaps
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Yeah, I agree. I know too many people that have lost a lot of weight the last 3 months, myself included. And, The BMI is the equivalent to the BLS in bullshit numbers. My BMI last year was 31....nevermind the 6 minute mile and 35 pullups I was punching out. But hey, I'm in the death industry so I can only dream of that number being correct!

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 22:44 | 2308714 jekyll island
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Hey Leonidas,

Checking in from Tennessee here.  People are fat.  Really fat.  I'm working in the ER tonight, just tried to resuscitate a 450 pound woman in cardiac arrest.  Couldn't get her on the bed, her pannus slipped between the EMS stretcher and the bed, had a helluva time keeping the rest of her from following to the floor.  I also am seeing a lot of the patients who have complications with their gastric bypass in the ER too.  A couple a week at least.  One guy came in cause he was chewing gum the day he was discharged, swallowed too much air and came in for abdominal pain.  Several have their small intestines swell up after surgery and that creates an obstruction, lots of vomiting and unhappiness.  Now a company out of Michigan is trying to market gastric bypass for adolescents.  Now that's bullshit. 

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 23:02 | 2308752 Fred Hayek
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I'm writing from Massachusetts, one of the relatively thinner states. With the hordes of dirigibles one sees walking around here, I shudder to think of what the human landscape looks like in the states much worse. And if that comes across as condescending or snobby, I'm sorry but people can be so much better.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 23:14 | 2308774 MayIMommaDogFac...
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trying to market gastric bypass for adolescents.  Now that's bullshit.

Why stop there when they can go straight to the womb?  This link is from today -- I wish it was from The Onion, but it's not.


Mon, 04/02/2012 - 01:29 | 2308932 TBT or not TBT
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Insulin goes everywhere, even affecting the fetus.    Cheap sweet carb loaded foods cause this.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 22:44 | 2308716 jonjon831983
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Simple solution: raise Obesity BMI.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 20:24 | 2308350 MFL8240
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The byproduct of foodstamps where no one has to work for their food.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 21:10 | 2308483 LetThemEatRand
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Does being a corrupt banker involve a lot of physical exertion?  Or a judge?  Or a research scientist?  But never mind.  It's the fault of poor people.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 21:23 | 2308517 OSCSPJ
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Hey Dumb Fuck. 

Let me double down. 

If you don't work, you don't choose what you eat.  Stop offering up excuses.  Those that don't produce, don't get to whine about the govt cheese extracted from those that actually work for a living.

Fuck you.  You tell us how much money you gave to the poor.  When you start producing, you can tell the others where YOU want money to be sent. 

Get a fucking job. 

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 21:37 | 2308560 nmewn
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Now you've done it...we're going to be treated to yet another LTER "I own my own business and take a one percenters profits for shouldering all the risk" screed ;-)

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 21:51 | 2308571 sun tzu
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It's their fault they didn't take advantage of an education that was free and it's their fault they won't work. As for being fat, it's no surprise that people too lazy to study and work are also too lazy to exercise. The vast majority of the fat people live in the ghetto, trailer parks, and barrios.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 20:24 | 2308352 derek_vineyard
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Eat real food. Things native to earth. Fruits, vegatbles, meats. Avoid as many processed/manufactured foods as you can.  It is this simple.  You will re-acquire the desire and taste for nutrious food and come to thoroughtly enjoy it.  Don't have to be obsessed, just use common sense.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 20:25 | 2308355 MFL8240
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Use common sense in a country who elected Barrack Obama to be its President?  Isnt that like an oximoron?

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 20:30 | 2308361 CryingBear
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People seemed to have gotten fat during the Bush years.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 21:46 | 2308583 Saro
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I'll correct it for him:

"Use common sense in a country that elected both Bush and Obama to be its President?  Isnt that like an oximoron?"

Mon, 04/02/2012 - 01:20 | 2308922 francis_sawyer
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Bring me the finest meats & cheeses in the land!

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 20:36 | 2308376 Jendrzejczyk
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".........................elected (insert any recent US president here)............................................"

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 21:01 | 2308451 kekekekekekeke
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very true

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 21:08 | 2308476 Dr Benway
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No. It is this simple:


Do not consume more calories than you expend.

Sun, 04/01/2012 - 21:14 | 2308491 kekekekekekeke
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It's not though, if you eat unprocessed foods you don't have to count calories.  You can eat raw vegan for example and eat thousands of calories and not gain weight


like check out this trick she eats thousands of calories of fruit all day.  Not the existence I would choose but she looks good

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