Zero Hedge Appreciates The Unpaid CNBC Marketing...

Tyler Durden's picture

...but it is hardly necessary.

Source: Alexa

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max2205's picture


Hmm...'s picture

Ok, I must be the only dumb one here.

Is there something wrong with the Y-axis?

As I read that graph, the Y axis goes from 15,000 DOWN TO 1,000.

Obviously, it looks logarithmic, but again the numerals make it look as though Zero Hedge has LOST viewers and has FALLEN to levels... not risen.

Forgive me if I've misinterpreted, which I clearly must have.

Whatta's picture

yeah, that is the way it reads...sumpin's wrong, or not?

Messianic's picture

It looks like it's based on a "rank" system, i.e. 1 is the highest rank, so lower is better...

Edit: dur too slow

Hard1's picture

Congrats Tyler...Your rating looks like the self evident truths of ZH are going mainstream, just never let your content follow that crowd

nope-1004's picture

And here is the problem with media today.

Is CNBC a TV channel for information?  Or entertainment?

There appears to be a problem identifying such by the producers of that channel.  Cramer, case in point.  The guy is always wrong financially but entertaining to watch.  No one would act like him, so they keep him because of how he acts, not for what he legitimately has to say.

We've got comedy, pretty girls, "experts", and thusly, an American news channel.

No doubt ratings will continue to fall.  People are searching out the truth and when comedy and the economy are mixed together in one outlet, people tune out.  The continued loss of wealth and earning power is no longer funny.

Congrats Tyler(s).

oddjob's picture

ZH continues to put up MHFT, so as much as ZH is different from CNBS, they do have their quixotic similarities.

pupton's picture

"We've got comedy, pretty girls, "experts", and thusly, an American news channel."

Now that Erin Burnett has left I would also put a quotation around "pretty girls" as well.  Becky Quick and that walking nose with DD's do not qualify as pretty in my book.  Although... that sock puppet Andrew Ross Sorkin is a rather pretty girl...

So if ZH already has Comedy, and hundreds of "experts" commenting each day, all we need is pretty girls and ZH can put CNBC out of bidness!!!

Kayman's picture

I watched Erin interview Geithner on CNN last night.  After 2 minutes of boring MSM pablum I switched back to Road Runner.  Beep...Beep

lilmac929's picture

+ 1T  Ha...that made me laugh.

clones2's picture

For those that haven't read this article related to Morgan Stanley and Zero Hedge...

It's like they're trying to discredit the information provided... but really don't refute much.

According to the talking points, reviewed by The New York Times, the numbers cited by Zero Hedge “represent gross asset positions and thus do not reflect the benefit of collateral or other hedges and protection, and the more relevant exposure to consider is the net exposure.”

So what is its net exposure? The company was limited in what it could say because of the pending earnings announcement. To address this point, staff members were told to direct callers to pre-existing stock research. “Analysts estimate that the actual net exposure is meaningfully lower,” the talking points read.

WOW - lame response - "meaningfully lower". Thanks for the facts...

Fish Gone Bad's picture

I provide plenty of comedy.  If people don't find me funny its because they have a few broken chromosomes.

Kayman's picture

all we need is pretty girls

We had Marla and we have Trav 777


Strider52's picture

You forgot RoboTrader's Mom.

Oh regional Indian's picture

Pride doth come before a fall, so step easy FCLubbers, ZH is near it's half-life.... I'd say it's time to innovate, not sit on your laurels.



pupton's picture

I doth think I'd fight you, oh and million dollar bonus....

TravsMom's picture

For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of how I raised her.  Trav is a wonderful daughter!

Kim Jong-Il's picture

I would do that boyish Andrew Ross Sorkin on "man love Thursday".

Teddy Turner's picture

Is CNBC a TV channel for information?  Or entertainment?

It is a giant propaganda campaign.  I saw on CNBC the other day the following quote.

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around [the banks] will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered. The issuing power should be taken from the banks and restored to the people, to whom it properly belongs."  -Thomas Jefferson

I would like to make a few comments regarding this quote.  One I do not believe this is a true Jefferson quote.  If it is true, I would love for someone to show me proof.  The word deflation did not even exist in Thoms Jefferson's era.  And two, why would CNBC be running quotes that are not true quotes which attack the financial system they have clearly pandered to for all this time?  Unless, the whole economy crashing scenario is something the NWO planners have in the cards.  That would also explain rising stock of zero hedge.  Where were you ten years ago Tyler?  Now it is to late.  Think about it all of you researchers, big brother Google owns Youtube, they would harshly censor the content if they didn't want it out there.  The bottom line is, when they bring in the police state they need people to arrest and we're it.

HCSKnight's picture


Regardless of my agreement regarding the fundamental bias of MSM, and CNBC in particular regarding financial/banking issues, the following points to your question/assertion should help.

1) deflation, was a farming term back in TJ's time;

2) the TJ quote, evidently has variations which have not been resolved;

I find the agricultural expression of deflation, link above, to be a far better description of the evil than the current dismal science portrayal of the machinations of the banksters in the Fed.

Teddy Turner's picture

I appreciate the reply but please correct me if I am wrong.  I see according to your sources, the term deflation was first used starting in 1891.  And that the TJ quote has been drastically changed.

wisefool's picture

Agreed on the deflation entomology arbitrage. To further that point, one of the things the three keyensian stooges (the fed, the banks, and the government) did was blow up a housing bubble that destroyed vast tracts of not just contigous land, but all those overbuilt "shelter roofs" destroy watersheds. Engineers and (the purportedly evil) Big Agra can make better and better tech to lessen the mechanical impact on the soils. But once McMansion run off changes the hydrology of the soil horizons there is no way to get that back. The local governments will never accept the loss in property tax revenues. Empty houses still pay taxes.

I think Krugman should read a little more FDR and a little less keynes. Some bubbles should never be made.

The Nation that destroys its soil, destroys itself

Franklin Delano Roosevelt.

Now we all need to get back to watching Desprate Dancing with the Jersey Shore film production tax credit stars! Krugman will self correct.


Teddy Turner's picture

Interesting post but I do not believe the fake Thomas Jefferson quote was refering to deflation in an agricultural sense because he also refers to inflation, another monetary term which had not been invented yet.

wisefool's picture

Sure. I am not a historian. I was just adding context that folks like TJ and FDR might have developed, even with improper citation.

In other words TJ might not have said it, but it does sound like something he would say. Thats all I added, even if off point. Good luck on the research.

packman's picture

Very definitely not a statement by Thomas Jefferson.

From the Wikiquote site:

The earliest known appearance of this quote is from 1935 (Testimony of Charles C. Mayer, Hearings Before the Committee on Banking and Currency, House of Representatives, Seventy-fourth Congress, First Session, on H.R. 5357, p. 799)

Shredd the FED's picture

Next step for ZH would be a ZHTV channel, or something like that.

Alex Kintner's picture

CNBC viewers are going broke (from listening to the corporate propoganda) and can no longer afford cable or internet access. Thus the drop in rating on CNBC website. Its a Cause and Effect thing.

Tyler should start having guest posts from a ZH "Cramer-type" -- marked as entertainment obviously. RoboCharade comes to mind.

wisefool's picture

This exact thing happened to me! I watched cnbc for a couple of years to understand economics and policy makers. Now I can't afford cable to watch cnbc anymore. Not sarc.

I guess carlin was right (para) "Its a big club, but they dont really want you in it". I learnt' far more from ZH anyway. Thanks TD!

Id fight Gandhi's picture

Thinking the same thing, cnbc shovels the same crap daily.

heatbarrier's picture

Wrong place  How do you dlete post, anyway?

pupton's picture

Yeah, but probably 650 of those are porn sites...

Well heatbarrier, I responded to your 670 websites above ZH post and then you changed it so now my response looks out of left field.  I don't think you can delete a post, so you might as well just repost your original thought and let it go...

heatbarrier's picture

Sorry about that, pupton, f&@*^ing editor drive me nuts, it locked me out, here it goes again, 

"Only 670 website is the US have higher traffic than ZH"  

PS. Tyler, how about overhawling the post editor?

eurusdog's picture

Alexa is a rank system, not a hits or counts system.

Pladizow's picture

Watch Jim Cramer's "Had Money" on CNB-Sleez!

Smithovsky's picture

I couldn't stomach CNBC anymore after I found ZH.

I guess it's OK for people who don't understand anything about the markets because it seems to be run by similar kind of people. But for anyone in the business it's a complete joke.  

If I had a nickel for every time a stock went ex-dividend and they reported it as it being down X% for no apparent reason, I would be an extremely rich man (or woman).

MayIMommaDogFace2theBananaPatch's picture

Jim Cramer's "Had Money"

Hmm, I thought the show was called "Sad Funny"

Blano's picture

Bring back the boobies dammit!!!!!!!!!!

Gold Man-Sacks's picture

Say "Bye, bye, bye," to your money!

Poule Mouillee's picture

It's a ranking, not a value.  Lower is better.

Thought criminal's picture

"The rank is calculated using a combination of average daily visitors to and pageviews on over the past 3 months. The site with the highest combination of visitors and pageviews is ranked #1."


Stormtower's picture

It's showing that their rank is going up. As in 15,000th to 1,000th.

Ruffcut's picture

Tyler, don't even look at any girl under 17 years old. And no more porn. Did you pay your taxes?

They say all PR is good PR, but not so good for Mel gibson, Charlie sheen and lindsey lohan.

Stoploss's picture

Why yes, you are the only dumb one here, and congratulations. I showed my Six year old the chart before he left for school, and asked him what he saw.

He replied "i see a trend, daddy."   There's your free lesson for today, straight from the horse's mouth.

Fanatic's picture

It's traffic rank. With 1 being the worlds most viewed site and so on.

Gold Man-Sacks's picture

Why all the negative points for this question?  You guys don't think that's a valid point?  Maybe you know some secret the rest of us don't?  Once again, some of you seriously need to get over yourselves. 

I think I need to buy a gun's picture

looks like the gold chart

last two things standing zero hedge and physical gold......