Photos Of An Extinguished Dream(liner)

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One wonders: is bringing a full-sized fire extinguisher on your next Dreamliner trip allowed by the TSA, or is there a 100 mL size limit?

The damage front and center:

And other snaps:

and for now, Boeing is a 45 point drag on the Dow (which is down 35 points) and is testing its 50DMA on massive volume:

And while we await the latest global grounding of the entire 787 fleet, here is a handy location tracker of all Dreamliners currently in operation (h/t @allplane):

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Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:54 | 3745700 malikai
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Engine fire?

Maybe a hot start?

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:58 | 3745727 NoDebt
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Boeing just announced they will be offering all 787 passengers and extra bag of penuts on every flight to compensate them for the smoke inhalation.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:59 | 3745732 malikai
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And you can roast them yourself, if you like.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:09 | 3745787 Stoploss
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Boeing had a dream, it's gone up in smoke!

Had a dream!!!!!!!!

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:17 | 3745821 XitSam
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Has there been a statement that there is "no evidence of terrorism" yet?

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:39 | 3745892 kliguy38
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No but they think Snowden was on board before they threw in the grenades

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 14:15 | 3745987 Cult_of_Reason
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Boeing 787 Dreamliner fire at LHR is right where the APU battery is sited that was supposed to have been sorted.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 14:28 | 3746049 TuesdayBen
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I hear their flight attendants are nice and slender...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcYppAs6ZdI

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 14:42 | 3746101 The Phu
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The first picture makes it look like the fire was right above the aft crapper... apparently they don't have $10,000 fines in Ethiopia for playing with the lav smoke detectors.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 15:11 | 3746187 Cult_of_Reason
Fri, 07/12/2013 - 15:15 | 3746207 francis_sawyer
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All this fucking means is that... besides fucking with the 'MINERS' [to knock down gold & silver to unprofitable price points]... TPTB have also set their sights on BOEING [to build military aircraft]...

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Things must be worse than I previously thought... Buy yourself some dry beans on the way home from your fucked up ass job this Friday...

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 15:22 | 3746234 BLOTTO
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'They' are symbolizing their appreciation and celebrating the very soon birth of the new bloodline lizard baby...

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>:p

 

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 15:47 | 3746322 francis_sawyer
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I think I predicted, here, a few months ago...

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The "27th"... The "27th"...

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 22:32 | 3747374 philipat
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@CoR

Yes, despite the spin to the contrary, it appears that this was a fire in the APU (Which powers an aircraft on the ground before the engines are started). APU's are not known for spontaneous combustion (Unlike Mercedes cars in Los Angeles). Which brings us back to....... the batteries.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:28 | 3745849 TuesdayBen
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A full-sized fire extinguisher?  With a full-sized parachute as secondary back-up...

I refrain from flying the Dreamliner/Screamliner/Corvair, thank you very much...

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 14:42 | 3746097 Overfed
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Comparatively speaking, the Corvair was an engineering masterpiece, and it's issues were easily sorted out.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 16:10 | 3746429 ndotken
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Damn thing isn't even a year old yet. I sure hope they remembered to mail in the warranty registration card.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:41 | 3745904 Pancho Villa
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Boeing, Boeing, gone!

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:53 | 3745943 One eyed man
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Sold to the man wearing a parachute and holding a fire extinguisher!

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 14:27 | 3746038 sushi
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The last Boeing Exec I saw was wearing a fire extinguisher and holding a parachute. He plummeted past pretty quickly. No fire odour though.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 16:02 | 3746392 holgerdanske
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Smoking on the toilet. we hear every time how dangerous it is. Now we can see for ourselves.

Smoking and farting does not go hand in hand!

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 17:30 | 3746678 mjcOH1
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Obviously a terrorist with an internal payload prematurely shart the package while still on the runway.   How long can we let this continue without mandating the pre-flight cavity searches that The People are demanding...

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:59 | 3745731 12ToothAssassin
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I thought the issue was a fire in a poorly ventilated battery box, not an engine.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:01 | 3745741 malikai
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Looks like they were spraying the engines. If it's another battery fire, that's real bad news for Boeing.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:04 | 3745751 NoDebt
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An engine fire while the plane is parked?  Was it built by the same people who designed the Pontiac Fiero?

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:12 | 3745798 malikai
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All sorts of bad things can happen if you have a hot start.

Looking through ancient history, I'd say the odds are an electrical fire of some variant.

2010 -

http://www.dailytech.com/Boeing+787+Test+Aircraft+Makes+Emergency+Landing+after+Electrical+Fire/article20123.htm

2013 -

http://news.sky.com/story/1034905/boeing-787-dreamliner-catches-fire-in-boston

Not sure what others there are.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 14:24 | 3746034 12ToothAssassin
Fri, 07/12/2013 - 15:44 | 3746310 malikai
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That picture wasn't up initially. I think the aft batteries are down below though, so I think it's electrical cabling.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:18 | 3745826 ATM
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Hey now. Don't be dissing the Fiero! If you want to bang on cars that burst into flames for no reason Jaguar is fine.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:37 | 3745886 eatthebanksters
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Are they Fisker batteries...the ones that burn underwater?   (like the car)

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 15:43 | 3746306 NoDebt
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ATM- I apologize.  I was going for the cheap shot with that comment.  I actually enjoy building street & track-prepped Fieros with my brother.  We've got a couple running around at various levels of modification but all with the original motor swapped for a tweaked-out 3.4L Twin Dual Cam V6 (think: Lumina Z34 motor).  

We'll be road racing one (not ours, a friend's) at the LeMons Race (don't think 'LeMans', think 'Lemons') down at Carolina Motorsports Park in September.  Here's the car we'll be running:

https://www.facebook.com/KissMyTailLights

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 15:57 | 3746371 nobodyimportant
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Whoa now--Jags do not burst into flame for no reason.  There is always a reason -- you just cannot find it!

Jag owner by the way.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 20:14 | 3747030 Parrotile
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What model??

In my student days I drove a 4.2 320G. Reliable, and pretty economical on a long run.

Never used it "around town" - the average 5mpg for stop-start driving was quite a disincentive, so the "alternative transport" - a Honda CB250N - used to win out easily!

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 15:28 | 3746259 Quantum Nucleonics
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Standard procedure to spray the engines - even parked, there'd be fuel in the fuel supply lines and lots of engine oil.  One of the pictures show fire nearly burned through the ceiling of the aft cabin.  A little far aft of the battery location, but that could still be the cause.  Also lots of electrical and hydraulic systems running along that area.

Really, they better hope it is the battery.  If it is an entirely separate engineering failure, Boeing could be looking at bankruptcy.  If it is the battery, then they were morons for not biting the bullet and re-engineering the airplane for traditional batteries.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 15:42 | 3746281 malikai
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That picture wasn't up initially. Yea that looks electrical to me.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:07 | 3745765 CPL
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http://www.oecdobserver.org/news/archivestory.php/aid/2278/Counterfeiting_and_piracy_.html

 

Parts piracy.  Recycled and unfixed parts go into new planes all the time.  I wouldn't step foot on any of the airplanes today.  It was a problem ten years ago when quality control was in effect.

 

In a inflationary universe, none of that level of care exists now.  Today it's find the cheapest part fastest.  And volia!  Planes fly out of the sky and crash.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 17:41 | 3746697 Isotope
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Reminds me of:

Narrator: A new car built by my company leaves somewhere traveling at 60 mph. The rear differential locks up. The car crashes and burns with everyone trapped inside. Now, should we initiate a recall? Take the number of vehicles in the field, A, multiply by the probable rate of failure, B, multiply by the average out-of-court settlement, C. A times B times C equals X. If X is less than the cost of a recall, we don't do one.

Business woman on plane: Are there a lot of these kinds of accidents?

Narrator: You wouldn't believe.

Business woman on plane: Which car company do you work for?

Narrator: A major one.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 20:29 | 3747057 Parrotile
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Nevertheless you can CHOOSE not to fly.  You usually cannot choose whether you will become ill or not - and the big  global / WHO worry is that of counterfeit medicines - especially the "high-value" ones such as those used for management of HIV, Hep C, and other headline "Problem Diseases" - http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn23769-global-crackdown-seizes-fake-drugs-worth-41-million.html#.UeCcOV9-99A.

Add in the "Third World" market for counterfeit antibiotics - http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22621827 and consider that about 80% of global population is considered Third World - and about 95% manage on less than $10 (US) a day http://www.globalissues.org/article/26/poverty-facts-and-stats and you have an inkling of just how serious a problem antibiotic resistance management is for everyone - even the 0.001% who "own" 25% of all global assets.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 14:42 | 3746096 Stuck on Zero
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The 787 Battery packs are in the front half of the plane and at the wing root, not in the rear where the damage appears to be.  Maybe it was a long-smoldering Ethiopian cigarette.

 

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 15:51 | 3746339 Never One Roach
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"Pinto of the Skies"

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 15:58 | 3746377 de3de8
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Green baby!

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:55 | 3745707 SheepDog-One
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Ethiopian airlines? Maybe they were just BBQ'ing a goat in the cargo bay.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 13:48 | 3745930 blueRidgeBoy
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It has happened before:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudia_Flight_163

Note: "Some Middle Eastern airlines used to allow passengers to use butane stoves on board - a practice unthinkable on Western airlines. The Saudi government had recently passed regulations forbidding them, but Muslim pilgrims still tried to smuggle them aboard. One early report of the crash specifically blamed the cause of the fire on a passenger using a butane stove to make tea."

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 15:56 | 3746364 americanspirit
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I was on a flight from Athens to Cairo in the mid-70's and several people were making tea on little butane stoves in the aisles. Kind of like a happy fizzy party at 30k feet. I thought at the time  - my, this looks rather unsafe. However, I decided that what would be really unsafe would be to ask the stewards to ask the 'pilgrims' to extinguish their little fires. Of course the plane was full of smoke anyway from those god-awful ME cigarettes, so who woulda known?

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 17:32 | 3746679 prodigious_idea
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"I thought at the time  - my, this looks rather unsafe."

Eloquent understatement.  Thank you for the gut-buster.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 19:49 | 3746977 Dugald
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"I thought at the time - my, this looks rather unsafe."

How very British of you......!!

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 18:01 | 3746742 akak
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A friend of mine was working as a flight attendant on a charter flight in the Middle East back in the 1980s when one of the passengers asked her how they could open a window so that they could roast their goat meat in the aisle without having too much smoke build up inside the cabin.

I don't remember exactly how she handled the situation, but I imagine the initial look on her face was priceless.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 16:24 | 3746478 DaveyJones
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Fri, 07/12/2013 - 15:25 | 3746236 GOSPLAN HERO
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Roasting goat caught fire.

Fri, 07/12/2013 - 12:55 | 3745710 rubearish10
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Somebody farted from the rear.

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