Meanwhile In Texas: Celebrating The New Open-Carry Gun Law

Tyler Durden's picture

As reported previously, in addition to celebrating the new year, starting January 1, Texans also celebrated a new open-carry gun law which took effect in the new year. Handgun license holders in Texas will now be allowed to carry their guns in visible holsters on their hip or shoulder.

Previously, Texans wanting to carry a handgun had to obtain a concealed handgun license and conceal their weapon. With the new law, the more than 826,000 state license holders will be allowed to openly display their handguns in most public places.

Proponents of the new open carry law say making guns more visible will deter mass shootings. The bill became law after a spirited debate.

However, not everyone was in favor of the idea to discourage violence through demonstrating weapons: a majority of the state's police chiefs opposed it.

"The question is: Does it make sense and is it good judgment to have a bunch of people running around with guns visible? And I think the answer is: Absolutely not," said Chief Art Acevedo of Austin.

Others are for it: Perkins owns Dallas-based The Slow Bone, a barbecue spot, and Maple & Motor, which specializes in burgers. He says his weapon of choice is a Glock 43, and he frequently carries it in his front pocket. He doesn't object to customers bringing concealed weapons into his restaurants.

"Carrying a concealed weapon is all about eventualities — things that might happen, and protection in that case," he says. "There's a lot of cash in my business. I have employees too. Restaurants get robbed, businesses get robbed, and I have employees that I would like to protect."

"Carrying a gun outside, on your person where it's visible, is at least an implied threat," he says. "If deadly force is your final threat, you're making it right away, visibly. ... I just really don't want that kind of threat feeling in either of the restaurants."

Even with the new state legislation, the number of people with handgun permits makes up only about 4 percent of Texas' population of more than 27 million. Out of these, Perkins thinks the number of people who want to openly carry weapons is pretty small.

Furthermore, private businesses are allowed to ban guns if they choose. In response, chains including Starbucks, Jack In The Box, Chili's, Sonic and Chipotle have asked customers to leave weapons at home.

If private businesses want to prevent people from bringing weapons inside, they are required by the law to display a sign with 1-inch block lettering. Separate signs are required for banning open carry and concealed carry. Perkins says he plans to put one up, but he doesn't foresee it causing any issues. "I don't think it's going to be a problem for us," Perkins says. "I don't think we're going to have confrontations."

Hopefully he is right and openly displayed weapons will indeed deter violence.

In the meantime Texans should get accustomed to sights such as this one which over the coming weeks and months will become increasingly recurring.

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Latina Lover's picture

Yahoo Baby! It takes an average of 20 minutes for a police officer to respond to an emergency 911.  Most violent assaults last less than 1 minute. I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

If you want a taste of lead, try robbing a Texan.  If you want to be robbed, visit California where only the political legislative criminals are protected, citizens be damned!

PS FUCK YOU Obama!

Sonic the porcupine's picture

I don't think the government has the right to prevent open carry, but it doesn't seem like a good idea from a self-defense perspective. I wouldn't want a bad guy to know I have a gun.

In other words, I think open carry should be legal, but I don't think it is a good idea to make use of this right in most cases. 

Latina Lover's picture

Open versus concealed carry? Honestly, with respect, I don't care as long as I can CARRY!!

TruxtonSpangler's picture

But why an AK chambered in .223?

Scooby Dooby Doo's picture

Scooby doesn't like Open Guns! It's too scary.

Future Jim's picture

When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

macholatte's picture

There is no limit on what weapons an individual can have. Why? So that citizens could arm themselves with the same or superior power of the .gov and that was the original intent. The Fathers didn’t know about aircraft or nukes but they sure as hell knew about gun powder and knives and muskets and pistols and that technology would continue to cause weapons to evolve.

"A well regulated militia being NECESSARY to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED."

Nevertheless there really is no need to carry an AR15 into a coffee shop unless you’re a dipshit wanting to show everyone your little penis. So go buy a nice handgun and a holster and relax.

Future Jim's picture

BTW, a "free state" is a state whose people are free.

Also, the second amendment is 2 rights: the right to form militias, and the right of ordinary individuals to keep and bear arms.

Theosebes Goodfellow's picture

Personally, even if I could open carry, I probably wouldn't for one simple reason. If a bad guy is blowing into some place, the first guy he shoots is the guy who is visibly armed. I work hard to carry concealed so no one knows I'm armed, and I will so blow your brains out from behind if you are a bad guy who happened to overlook me. If you are engaged in armed robbery and I get the drop on you, you get no warning. You just die. I am also very in favor of not incurring any more imprisonment costs for bad guys on my state than necessary. I'm frugal that way.

N2OJoe's picture

IMO, open carry is more of a political thing that is good for showing the gen pop that guns aren't these evil things that just run around killing people on their own.

If people saw open carry every day and those who were scared had the will to open dialogue with the carrier, I think guns and gun owners would lose much of their "evil" stigma that's been so feverishly cultivated by the media and politicians.

fallout11's picture

Police open carry, and don't seem to worried about it. Further, FBI crime statistics show that the mere visible presence of a weapon (unfired!) stopped over 90% of crimes. Deterance is a powerful tool.

PTR's picture

BTW, a "free state" is a state whose people are free.

Also, the second amendment is 2 rights: the right to form militias, and the right of ordinary individuals to keep and bear arms.

 

It's also not a license to be a belligerent ass. 

bearwinkle's picture

It thought Scooby was a dog but I know now that he/she is a pussy!

 

I Will Explain All's picture

"The Right to Bear Arms" has NOTHING to do with defense against terrorists.

The founding fathers and early Americans clearly created the admendment to stop tyranny.

new game's picture

finally, a comment that deals with original intent. so why can't i have any weapon the government can have including a tank? huh? but a brng 50 cal will do just fine-thank you..

MarketAnarchist's picture

Weapons that governments have wouldn't be feasible to produce without government theft (ie taxation).   Therefore, nuclear missiles, b-2's, aircraft carriers are all abberations and would not exist in a free market.

Ag Tex's picture

I made a comment about 2 years ago that we in Texas welcome anyone so long as they bring their Bibles and manners.  I was WRONG!!  If you are from Illonois or California or pretty much anywhere outside of Texas, Oklahoma, Lousisiana, Alabama, New Mexico, Arizona, Kentucky, Tennessee, Georgia (maybe the Carolinas) or Mississippi, please move back to where you came from!!  You are not welcome!!  It was a mistake and didn't work out!!  Really, go back to your socialist states and failed mindsets!!

Fester's picture

In my little hill country town in Texas I see more and more Alaska license plates.  Y'all are welcome here.  :)

Ag Tex's picture

Shut up Fester!  Mom told you not to come out of the attic!  Don't listen to him out of staters, he's crazy!!  The sheep are scared of him!

Ag Tex's picture

Just razzin Fester, but my above comment is right on!!

Theosebes Goodfellow's picture

What did I do now? Whoops! Sorry, that's just my avatar. Don't mind him.

Future Jim's picture

Good point ... except ... Texas elected Rick Perry.

daveO's picture

Same problem in NC. The Communist Yankee migration continues.

Still Losing Money's picture

Cary, NC - containment area for relocated yankees

drivenZ's picture

you don't really believe the bible do you? a religion(like most religions) that was built on conquering and pilaging other nations and forcing a book of stories upon those people.  there have been hundereds or thousands of recognized  religions over the course of humanity and you think your book is the right one? there are billions of Hindus/muslims/Buddhists/Jews but you really think you've got it correct and everyone else is wrong? why? because your parents made you go to church? still amazes me that religion exists in this age. 

Ag Tex's picture

It is only because of Christianity that other religions are allowed to be practiced in the United States.  Another will not allow the others.  That speaks for itself.

 

"It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the gospel of Jesus Christ.  For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here."

--The Trumpet Voice of Freedom: Patrick Henry of Virginia, p. iii.

fallout11's picture

Founding Father John Adams (and principle author of the Declaration of Independence) would dissagree with your assessment, for he wrote this in 1797 (despite being an extremely religious individual):
"As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion; as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen (Muslims); and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan (
Mohammedan) nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries." - The Treaty of Tripoli, 1797.
Unanimously ratified by the US Senate a mere 10 years after ratification of the Constitution of the US. 

undertow1141's picture

That was to wind down the jihadist muslims after we destroyed Tripoli fighting the Barbary pirates. The muslim world wanted to declare war on the US and Adams was attempting to defuse the situation. Unlike our current imposter.

Just for some context about that speech.

Lore's picture

Too simplistic. It's possible to disagree with Big Religion (especially in matters of state) while retaining religious belief personally. In fact, it's important to recognize that distinction. Human organizations in general are too easily hijacked.

Theosebes Goodfellow's picture

~"you don't really believe the bible do you?"~

As a matter of fact, I do.

~"a religion(like most religions) that was built on conquering and pilaging other nations and forcing a book of stories upon those people."~

The Bible is more than a history book. Judaism wasn't "built", it was ordained. You probably don't understand the difference. It requires deep study, usually a life's full.

~"there have been hundereds or thousands of recognized  religions over the course of humanity and you think your book is the right one"~

This is where you have displayed your misunderstanding about the Bible. The Bible isn't just one book. Think of it more as a library, with many books inside it. It's divided into two sections, the Old Testament and the New Testament.

The Old Testament is one of the oldest survival manuals ever written. It was designed, (divinely), to keep most of the tribes of Israel alive, if they followed the laws in it scrupulously. This was before man had any understanding of natural poisons found in food, the concept of microbial sanitation and things like caring for the environment, (yeah, that's in there too). There were 629 laws in the Old Testament.

The New Testament is about Jesus of Nazareth, his life and the promise he brought to world that continues today, 2000 years later.

~"there are billions of Hindus/muslims/Buddhists/Jews but you really think you've got it correct and everyone else is wrong?"~

Yup, that's about the size of it. Although I'm not here trying to convince you of anything, I'll share what I think and you can go with it from there, (or not).

Hindus believe in a lot of different gods who, if worshipped, can do things for you in this life.

Buddhist think you have to relive lives a whole lot of times until you don't care anymore and only then can you "move on". 

Islam is the cult of a guy named Mohammad who lived in Arabia in the 7th century. You can read all about him here, and you should if you do not understand why Muslims do crazy shit. I strongly suggest you devote enough time to read the whole thing. Most westerners have no clue just how bad a 7th century plagiarizing, incestuous, extortionistic, lying, mass-murdering rapist-pedophile-pirate, (according to Islam's "most revered texts"), became the epitome of how Muslim men should behave today.By the way, in Islam, there is no free will. It is all pre-determined.

The difference between Christianity and Judaism is that Christians believe their savior arrived 2000 years ago and the Jews think he hasn't shown up yet. In fact, the Christians think their savior is due to come again. To clean house, so to speak.

Here's the testament of faith for Christians: "God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten son that whoever should believe in Him should not die but have eternal life."

There are others, but that one sums it up nicely. And if you believe in Him, you will work real hard to live a good life. Jesus taught, "Love your neighbor as yourself." That's may sound simple but it's a real tall order if you have to try to do it all the time.

There is a lot of discussion about whether Jesus's coming obviated some of the Old Testament laws, but the big ten still apply. Even if Jesus hadn't come they'd still apply. They're pretty good rules, as rules go.

Don't piss off God. Don't worship other gods or idols. Don't make idols. Don't call His Name and not mean it. Work six days and rest the 7th. Do the same for the help. Honor your mother and father. Don't murder. Don't sleep around with someone else's spouse. Don't steal. Don't lie, or allow a lie to stand. Don't jones the neighbor's shit. or his ride, or his bride. Shit, don't jones after anything your neighbor has got.

That's it. There are, like I said, another 600+, but if you manage all of those above, you're doing well.

And here is why I believe. If I am wrong, (and I'm not because of something called faith), then all I have done is lived a "good life". I've been "worthy". I've lost nothing. If I am right and do not live a "good life", then when it's time to stand before The Man, I will pray that He will show me Grace. Regardless of what you may or may not have heard, the way into heaven, (a completely different discussion for another time), is by Grace of God. No amount of acts on your part will change that. "Content of character", is what I recall a very good man describe it as.

So there it is. The Bible is a survival manual. It will save your life, and probably your soul. Or not. That's the beauty, you get to choose. That's what the whole "getting kicked out of the garden" was all about. Free will is a bitch if you don't use it correctly. Peace.

 

Seek_Truth's picture

Good summary, Goodfellow- God bless!

Agstacker's picture

By the way, in Islam, there is no free will. It is all pre-determined

 

 

So is the old testament-

 

http://biblehub.com/exodus/7-3.htm

Theosebes Goodfellow's picture

Sorry Agstacker, but the verse you quoted had nothing to do with the lack of free will. Are you trying to say that the Judeo-Christian faith has no free will? Christians will tell you that the coming of Jesus changed things, though free will wasn't ever part of the discussion.

I think you will be hard pressed to find a single Jewish or christian scholar who will say there is no free will in their faith. Free will, (the right to choose to follow), is a basic tenet in Judeo-Christina beliefs. The Bible of full of stories about people who chose rightly or wrongly and either avoided catastrophy or suffered calamity, as with Moses, King david and Lot's wife.

TurnwiseWiddershins's picture

Dakotas?  Idaho? Montana? Utah?

RevIdahoSpud3's picture

Never mind. Texas is mostly part of Mexico anyway.

stant's picture

Love me some Texas but I am staying in bluegrass

PTR's picture

Don't worry about Illinois ex-pats, Tex.  You folks don't know how to drive in snow.  =)

MFL8240's picture

Picture of course compliments of the New York  Times!

Timmay's picture

Anyone notice that the safety was in the "off" position on the AK??

thatthingcanfly's picture

Yes. Good man. All ths safeties on all of my weapons are always in the "Fire" position. Safeties are mechanical devices designed to stop your weapon from functioning properly to give the operator peace of mind. They were added to firearms purely for psychological reasons. If you're worried about accidental discharge, just 1) assume every firearm is loaded, 2) keep your finger out of the trigger well until ready to fire, and 3) point your weapon in a safe direction.

The guy in the photo is showing poor muzzle discipline.

pickupthatcan's picture

Open carry of long guns has always been legal in Texas. With or without a License to Carry.

GhostOfDiogenes's picture

"Safeties are mechanical devices designed to stop your weapon from functioning properly to give the operator peace of mind. "

Or to stop the gun from going off by itself or picked up by a noob.

Its called "safety", not "pieceofmindy".

thatthingcanfly's picture

Lol. "Piece" of mind?

English noob.

Couldn't even be bothered to cut-n-paste me twice.

Kagemusho's picture

 It's fair to assume he knows about the care-and-(ahem) 'feeding' of AK's and probably doesn't have a round up the spout.

Long time owner of knockoff AKs so I know well of what I speak. (I wanted something straight from Izhmash, Mickey K's own factory, but Obummer nixed the importations, the effin' fraud. Now the post-ban ones are too expensive.)

GhostOfDiogenes's picture

"But why an AK chambered in .223?"

Lmao! Why an ar-15 .223?

I cannot believe 'merica used that over the m-14 7.62.

Americans are such fucking retards.

Oh no! Not little bullets!

new game's picture

308, yea...most versatile, second to 30:06. like 308 due to recoil, thanks...

OldPhart's picture

Just in from the range with my son, his niece and her boyfriend...AR15, .50 Desert Eagle, 1911 .45, glock 9 mm pistol, Mossberg (forget which but VERY large bore), .22 Survival rifle, M-1 .30 cal and a couple dozen eggs.  A very noisy time today.

thatthingcanfly's picture

It's the muzzle velocity of those "little bullets" that does the damage. That's why we went to the .223. You'll get over 3000 fps out of the barrel from an average A2230 load behind a 55-grain bullet, and close to it in most 62 grainers. Does a tremendous amount of tissue damage as it passes through flesh, bone, and organs.

TruxtonSpangler's picture

With more managable recoil for those of you who are size challenged.