"You Are Criminalizing Diplomacy!" Professor Stephen Cohen Slams Neocon Max Boot In CNN Debate

Stephen Cohen schooled prominent 'Never Trump' neocon and Council on Foreign Relations member Max Boot on CNN's Anderson Cooper this week on the Trump-Putin Helsinki summit and general charges related to 'Russiagate'. 

It's worth watching especially as it underscores why recognized academic experts are rarely given airtime on the mainstream networks if their perspective lies outside the accepted media group-think on Russia. 

“I‘ve been studying Russia for 45 years,” Professor Stephen Cohen said as the debate got heated. “I‘ve lived in Russia, and I’ve lived here.”

But predictably Boot cut him off, leveling the standard ad hominem that's become the standard fallback retort to any 'contrarian' analysis, saying Cohen has been “consistently an apologist for Russia those 45 years.”

“I don’t do defamation of people, I do serious analysis of serious national security problems,” Professor Cohen responded. “When people like you call people like me, and not only me, but people more eminent than me, apologists for Russia because we don’t agree with your analysis, you are criminalizing diplomacy and detente and you are the threat to American national security, end of story.”

“Why do you have to defame somebody you don’t agree with?” Cohen continued. “They used to do that in the old Soviet Union.”

Cohen's credentials as professor emeritus at Princeton and New York University, author of numerous books on Russian history, and among the world's most recognized analysts on modern Russia are without parallel when compared to the usual neocon 'experts' like Boot, who regularly appear on the network panels and in the op-ed columns.

Cohen said he doesn't find anything "unusual" about the Helsinki summit — especially nothing worth the level of broad 24/7 media push back that Trump's private meeting with Putin received. Cohen and Boot sparred over what exactly the two leaders may have discussed, including possibly a resolution related to Russia's annexation of the Crimea. 

Anderson Cooper posed the following question with an incredulous look on his face: "You're believing Vladimir Putin on this?"

Cohen responded, “You have to take Putin’s word this is what they talked about,” and added, “I don’t want to shock you, but I believe Vladimir Putin on several things.”

Of course this was too much for the Cooper and Boot — the latter which promptly charged Cohen with being a "Putin apologist"

Boot said elsewhere in the interview that “a lot of intelligence officials think that there is something highly suspect in the relationship between Putin and Trump” based merely on the supposed unwillingness of Trump to level personal criticism against the Russian leader the he does others. 

Cohen responded, “I have no idea what Mr. Boot is talking about... He wants Trump to threaten Russia? Why would we threaten Russia?”

Boot followed with, “Because they’re attacking us, Professor Cohen. Russia is attacking us right now according to Trump’s own director of national intelligence.”

After an intense back-and-forth in which Boot again lazily accused the scholar of being a Putin apologist, Cohen concluded, "I think that Mr Boot would have been happy if Trump had waterboarded Putin at the summit and made him confess." He said, "Trump carried out an act of diplomacy fully consistent with the history of American presidency. Let us see what comes out of it, then judge."

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Professor Cohen has a history of challenging powerful media figures, which is why his appearances on networks like CNN or MSNBC are very infrequent, despite his status as a world authority. 

For example at the height of the 2014 Ukraine crisis he made Christiane Amanpour so frazzled that she began yelling antagonistically for show host Wolf Blitzer "to be very careful" in allowing what she called "pro-Russian" views to be expressed across CNN airwaves.

Christiane Amanpour in 2014: We cannot allow "pro-Russian" perspectives on CNN! (begins at 2:25 mark)

Comments

samsara Slippery Slope Tue, 07/31/2018 - 22:25 Permalink

She is a controlled mouthpiece of the CFR. Like Andrea Mitchell(aka Mrs. Alan Greenspan) , Mika Brezinski(Zbig's daughter), Anderson Cooper(Mother was a Vanderbilt) and so on.

Wolf is owned too, but you know to whom.

Christiana Amanpour was married to Robert Rubin. I think he was in Clinton's whitehouse.

Oh the best part of the Boot thing was at the very end right after he distroyed Boot, he just shuck his head,

Thinking to himself, 'what a grade A asshole

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RationalLuddite samsara Wed, 08/01/2018 - 02:47 Permalink

I find Boot's suppressed premise interesting and informative too. 

Note the binary thinking 

If Trump doesn't defame Putin, he must be in collusion with him.

If Cohen doesn't defame Putin, he must be a Putin shill.

 

These people project their own sociopathy - anything that isn't giving me narc supply, malevolent entitled fuel, is by definition against me. Anyone who doesn't fully submit to my hegemony,  is attacking me and my enemy. If you are not my tool, you cannot be anything but my enemy. 

 

“I don’t do defamation of people, I do serious analysis of serious national security problems,” Professor Cohen responded. “When people like you call people like me, and not only me, but people more eminent than me, apologists for Russia because we don’t agree with your analysis, you are criminalizing diplomacy and detente and you are the threat to American national security, end of story.”

“Why do you have to defame somebody you don’t agree with?” Cohen continued. “They used to do that in the old Soviet Union.”

wonderful 

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philipat HowdyDoody Wed, 08/01/2018 - 06:14 Permalink

I'm confused, the left used to be for peace and harmony and all that? I guess that the left we have now is the ultra-left communist fringe that wants to destroy everything because, well, it's only fair. And because, um, Trump!!!!

This "debate" is absolutely absurd. Steve Cohen is just about the only rational voice worth listening to in the US for any serious analysis of Russia and Russian history and policy.

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el buitre SWRichmond Wed, 08/01/2018 - 11:38 Permalink

This clip with Cohen demonstrates that there are a few decent people out there of Khazarian ethnic heritage, even if Max Boot is a caricature of a typical Khazarian Zionist thug.  In all fairness, one should distinguish between all Jews and Zionists.  And the worst of the lot are the Christian Fundamentalist Zionists.

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Shemp 4 Victory RationalLuddite Wed, 08/01/2018 - 04:07 Permalink

 

These people project their own sociopathy - anything that isn't giving me narc supply, malevolent entitled fuel, is by definition against me. Anyone who doesn't fully submit to my hegemony,  is attacking me and my enemy. If you are not my tool, you cannot be anything but my enemy.

Exactly correct. Boot's crackpottery was similarly on display a couple of weeks ago when Tucker Carlson kicked him to the curb. Max Boot comes across as a frightened child.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HjVipLZYns

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Mementoil Shemp 4 Victory Wed, 08/01/2018 - 04:35 Permalink

How come everybody on ZH chastises Jews when they are warmongering, but no one has a word of praise for the Jew who in this case is promoting peace with Russia?
This reveals the true face of the Jew-haters here on ZH, that they simply won't give a Jewish person credit for anything, even if its what they themselves are constantly advocating for. Such hypocrisy.

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wildbad iinthesky Wed, 08/01/2018 - 02:21 Permalink

this was an excellent watch and a perfect example of leftist insanity.

how does CNN stay afloat?  where do they dig up these commies to spout this obvious nonsense?  why are they limiting themselves to the "BIG LIE" Russia?

jeesh

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Handful of Dust chumbawamba Tue, 07/31/2018 - 20:40 Permalink

Max Boot + Adam Shiff = Mental Disease of the worst kind

My guess is Maxie is on the pay roll of the Chinese to distract from China which is The BIG threat according to just about every serious non-partisan analyst.

Plus, these neo-cons are still stuck in the Old Cold War mentality. They're probably still using dial telephones or snail mail to send messages. I wonder if Max has to get out and crank his 1948 Edsel car to start it in the mornings.

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I Am Jack's Ma… Groucho Wed, 08/01/2018 - 01:01 Permalink

Explain this:

Why is it ‘hate’ to note massive, and frequent, Jewish overrepresentation on a news network?

 

Explain this concept.

 

See, I think it’s really about preventing discussion of that massive over-representation.

Its like you’re saying the other 98% of the country should just shut up about it between listening to ‘cis hetero white makes’ take shit all day, not infrequently from jewish professors.

 

Anyway why is noting a fact ‘hate’ when it comes to highly disproportionate Jewish influence?  

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chumbawamba Groucho Wed, 08/01/2018 - 01:39 Permalink

Ok, sure, I'll give comment to this dog & pony sideshow distraction:

Fuck all of these stupid cunts.  I would beat them so badly in any debate that they'd go home in shame and bend over for their strap-on wielding wives.  In other words, they would cuck themselves in my absentia from the intellectual thrashing I would administer.

You got that, punky?

Go fuck yourself.

-chumblez.

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chumbawamba cheech_wizard Wed, 08/01/2018 - 01:56 Permalink

What "debate"?  The one between two beta cuck faggots on the teebee moderated by an alpha beta?  Or the imaginary one you perceive me to be in?

For the record, I'm not debating anyone, I'm just pointing out what a fucking pathetic display of petty trifle this all is.

Fuck these people and anyone that disagrees with me.  And especially fuck the down-voting niggers.

-chumblez.

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