Deutsche Bank Trader Admits To Rigging Precious Metals Markets

After months of "smoking guns" and conspiracy theory dismissals, a Singapore-based Deutsche Bank trader (at the center of fraud allegations) finally confirmed (by admitting guilt) what many have suspected - the biggest banks in the world have conspired to rig precious metals markets.

The Deutsche Bank trader, David Liew, pleaded guilty in federal court in Chicago to conspiring to spoof gold, silver, platinum and palladium futures, according to court papers. Bloomberg notes that spoofing involves traders placing orders that they never intend to fill, in an attempt to manipulate the price.

Following an introductory period that included orientation and training, LIEW was eventually assigned to the metals trading desk (which included base metals and precious metals trading) in approximately December 2009. During the Relevant Period, LIEW was employed by Bank A as a metals trader in the Asia-Pacific region, and his primary duties included precious metals market making and futures trading.




Between in or around December 2009 and in or around February 2012 (the "Relevant Period"), in the Northern District of Illinois, Eastem Division, and elsewhere, defendant DAVID LIEW did knowingly and intentionally conspire and agree with other precious metals (gold, silver, platinum, and palladium) traders to: (a) knowingly execute, and attempt to execute, a scheme and artifice to defraud, and for obtaining money and property by means of materially false and fraudulent pretenses, representations, and promises, and in furtherance of the scheme and artifice to defraud, knowingly transmit, and cause to be transmitted, in interstate and foreign commerce, by means of wire communications, certain signs, signals and sounds, in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 1343,which scheme affected a financial institution; and (b) knowingly engage in trading, practice, and conduct, on and subject to the rules of the Chicago Mercantile Exchange ("CME"), that was, was of the character of, and was commonly known to the trade as, spoofing, that is, bidding or offering with the intent to cancel the bid or offer before execution, by causing to be transmitted to the CME precious metals futures contract orders that LIEW and his coconspirators intended to cancel before execution and not as part of any legitimate, good-faith attempt to execute any part of the orders, in violation of Title 7, United States Code, Sections 6c(a)(5)(C) and 13(a)(2); all in violation of Title 18, United States Code, Section 371.




Defendant LIEW's employer, Bank A, was one of the largest global banking and financial services companies in the world. Bank A's primary precious metals trading desks were located in the United States, the United Kingdom, and the Asia-Pacific region.


Defendant LIEW and other precious metals traders, including traders at Bank A, engaged in a conspiracy to commit wire fraud affecting a financial institution and spoofing, in the trading of precious metals futures contracts traded on the CME.


Defendant LIEW placed, and conspired to place, hundreds of orders to buy or to sell precious metals futures contracts that he intended to cancel and not to execute at the time he placed the orders (the "Spoof Orders").




Bank A operated a global metals trading team with traders in the United States, the United Kingdom, and the Asia-Pacific region. Throughout his tenure on the metals trading desk at Bank A, defendant LIEW was supervised by and interacted with more experienced traders on the team. LIEW was supervised by other metals traders in the Asia-Pacific region, and, due to the nature of the nearly 24-hour trading cycle, LIEW interacted with members of the trading team in the United States and the United Kingdom. It was after joining the metals trading desk that LIEW was taught to spoof by other metals traders, including other metals traders at Bank A.


Defendant LIEW generated Spoof Orders manually. That is, LIEW physically clicked his computer mouse or keyboard keys to enter each Spoof Order, and physically clicked his mouse or keyboard keys to cancel that order.


A common technique employed by defendant LIEW was to place and cancel one or more Spoof Orders on one side of the prevailing market price. The intent of these Spoof Orders was to facilitate the execution of an existing Primary Order on the opposite side of the market. By placing Spoof Orders opposite the Primary Order, LIEW intended to create a false appearance of supply or demand and induce other market participants to react to this false information in order to move the market price and/or increase the available quantity at the desired price of the relevant futures contract. During the time the Spoof Order was live in the market, or shortly after it was cancelled, LIEW's Primary Order on the other side of the market would often execute at a more favorable price than was otherwise available before the Spoof Order had been placed.




Coordinated spoofing involved one or more additional participants. When engaging in coordinated spoofing, defendant LIEW and/or one or more co-conspirators would place one or more Spoof Orders on one side of the market in order to facilitate the execution of Primary Orders placed on the opposite side of the market by either LIEW or a coconspirator. For example, LIEW would place a Spoof Order in order to facilitate the execution of a Primary Order placed by a co-conspirator, or a co-conspirator would place a Spoof Order in order to facilitate the execution of a Primary Order placed by LIEW. At other times, LIEW and one or more co-conspirators would each place one or more Spoof Orders in order to facilitate the execution of a Primary Order placed by LIEW or a co-conspirator.


During and in furtherance of the conspiracy, defendant LIEW engaged in solo spoofing or coordinated spoofing with traders at Bank A hundreds of times.

Prosecutors have brought very few cases against alleged spoofers but have stepped up their enforcement since the adoption of the Dodd-Frank financial law.

Deutsche Bank declined to comment.

From a July 2012 blog post, we discover that Liew quit banking then to start a tech company...

A bit like Vinicius, I was (and still am) in my third year out of University and making a very comfortable living as a trader at Deutsche Bank. Here in Singapore (sadly), a sort of toxic culture has been brewing that your “success” is deemed by your salary. Yes, I was getting a 6 digit annual salary, yes I was in the top % of wage earners of my age group (I’m turning 27 this year). A lot of people have labelled me “crazy” to “throw all I had away”, to which I would reply “This is my life, not yours. But thanks and good luck to you too”

This is not the first time Deutsche Bank has been involved, implicated, and exposed to rigging the precious metals markets.

As we noted in December, when we first reported that Deutsche Bank had agreed to settle allegations it had rigged the silver market in exchange for $38 million, we revealed something stunning: "in a curious twist, the settlement letter revealed that the former members of the manipulation cartel have turned on each other", and that Deutsche Bank would provide docments implicating other precious metals riggers. To wit: "In addition to valuable monetary consideration, Deutsche Bank has also agreed to provide cooperation to plaintiffs, including the production of instant messages, and other electronic communications, as part of the settlement. In Plaintiff’s estimation, the cooperation to be provided by Deutsche Bank will substantially assist Plaintiffs in the prosecution of their claims against the non-settling defendants."

Overnight we finally got a glimpse into what this "production" contained, and according to documents filed by the plaintiffs in the class action lawsuit, what Deutsche Bank provided as part of its settlement was nothing short of "smoking gun" proof that UBS Group AG, HSBC Holdings Plc, Bank of Nova Scotia and other firms rigged the silver market. The allegation, as Bloomberg first noted, came in a filing Wednesday in a Manhattan federal court lawsuit filed in 2014 by individuals and entities that bought or sold futures contracts.

In the document records surrendered by Deutsche Bank and presented below, traders and submitters were captured coordinating trades in advance of a daily phone call, manipulating the spot market for silver, conspiring to fix the spread on silver offered to customers and using illegal strategies to rig prices.

“Plaintiffs are now able to plead with direct, ‘smoking gun’ evidence,’ including secret electronic chats involving silver traders and submitters across a number of financial institutions, a multi-year, well-coordinated and wide-ranging conspiracy to rig the prices,” the plaintiffs said in their filing.

The latest evidence is critical because as the plaintiffs add, the new scheme “far surpasses the conspiracy alleged earlier.” As a result, the litigants are seeking permission to file a new complaint with the additional allegations, i.e., demand even more reparations from the defendants who have not yet settled, and perhaps even more evidence of ongoing market rigging. Their proposed complaint broadens the case beyond the four banks initially sued to include claims against units of Barclays Plc, BNP Paribas Fortis SA, Standard Chartered Plc and Bank of America Corp.

Representatives of UBS, BNP Paribas Fortis, HSBC, Standard Chartered and Scotiabank didn’t immediately respond to e-mails outside regular business hours seeking comment on the allegations. Barclays and Bank of America declined to immediately comment.

The Deutsche Bank documents show, among other things, how two UBS traders communicated directly with two Deutsche Bank traders and discussed ways to rig the market. The traders shared customer order-flow information, improperly triggered customer stop-loss orders, and engaged in practices such as spoofing, all meant to destabilize the price of silver ahead of the fix and result in forced selling or buying. It is also what has led on so many occasions to the infamous previous metals "slam", when out of nowhere billions in notional contracts emerge, usually with the intent to sell, to halt any upside moment in the precious metals/ 

"UBS was the third-largest market maker in the silver spot market and could directly influence the prices of silver financial instruments based on the sheer volume of silver it traded," the plaintiffs allege. "Conspiring with other large market makers, like Deutsche Bank and HSBC, only increased UBS’s ability to influence the market."

Some examples of the chats quoted are shown below. In the first example a chart between DB and HSBC traders in which one HSBC trader says "really wanna sel sil[ver" to which the other trader says "Let's go and smash it together."

Another chat transcript from May 11, 2011 reveals a Deutsche Bank trader telling a UBS trader that the cartel "WERE THE SILVER MARKET"(sic) based on feedback from outside traders to which UBS replies, referring to the silver market "we smashed it good", leading to the following lament "fking hell UBS now u make me regret not joining."

Finally, for all those traders who wonder what happened to their stops as a result of dramatic moves in the price, here is the answer: a June 2011 chat between a UBS and a DB trader comes down to the following: "if you have stops... who ya gonna call... STOP BUSTERS"


Liew's admission of guilt to a conspiracy to spoof precious metals markets seems like the final nail in the coffin of any conspiracy theory deniers - theory is now fact once again. The question is - will the regulatory crackdown on these manipulations actually reduce rigging in the markets?


fockewulf190 Haus-Targaryen Fri, 06/02/2017 - 13:02 Permalink

"Ironically enough, there is a bullion shop directly behind the DB corporate HQ here in FFM. Its literally 100 yards away from their front door.

Every time I go there its filled with DB guys over lunch. "

Germans do like phyzz. I haven't been to Frankfurt am Main in ages. Last time I was there I was spending stupid amounts of DM in Sachsenhausen, hitting one club after the next and having a fucking blast. Germany during the 80's was one of the funnest places on Earth! Still cool today, but the "Winds of Change" definitely showed up.

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NoDebt nope-1004 Fri, 06/02/2017 - 11:02 Permalink

It's really amazing to me how easy these markets are to manipulate.  It's like everybody knows how to do it, they're on the 'honor system' not to and every year only 2 people (rogue traders!) get brought up on charges as a token prosecution.  There's probably 200 others right behind him doing the same thing the day after they slap the cuffs on him.And there's no way this guy was doing this without his managers knowing.  No way.

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Yog Soggoth NoDebt Fri, 06/02/2017 - 17:49 Permalink

Of course they know about it. The real scam is them turning fiat into real assets. These greedy traders maybe get caught, and the bank gets real estate and PM's, or whatever they want to buy that makes them immediate money. House wins patsys do short time. Possibly some new harsher banking laws are in order. I suggest confiscation of all assets and annulment of banks charter involved. Something simple that will get the message across. Other countries governments would look at this as a new form of revenue for deficits. Why not start a reform trend?

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new game CheapBastard Fri, 06/02/2017 - 12:31 Permalink

DB is as bad as GS. both are dead banks stealing, open and notorious.when the fuk will people say enuf is enuf?remember DB luandered drug money. war on you believe there is a deep state with a conspiring seeing eye fuking eh?pop eyes from aff gan a fuken stan?huh?shooting rampage of heroin, or is that ???

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Justin Case TheSilentMajority Fri, 06/02/2017 - 11:23 Permalink

"his primary duties included precious metals market making and futures trading."The CEO and his managers should all be on trial, not the Guy doing what he was instructed to do by management for their corporation. The trader is just a pion in the network. Serve the upper management will fines that are 2 or 3 yrs. salry and bonuses. If they are caught defrauding the traders again, they will get double the fine, jail time and permanent expulsion from the financial industry.Now they will fry the minnow and the sharks will swim free.

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rbianco3 TheSilentMajority Fri, 06/02/2017 - 12:47 Permalink

What's in Argentina?When I lived in Orlando I met a lot of "high class" people from Brazil, they had come in small armies to sell home mortgages to nearly anyone with a signature and they made bank! I recall partying with them and noticing a lot of strange things. They had a real power structure, if someone would lay out a rail on the table, the younger ones would look to the older ones for a sign of approval, or otherwise. If there was a such thing as an organized crime ring, this was it. They all moved (somewhere) back to Brazil before the housing crash some didn't even sell the home they were living in they just took off. But I wonder if South America is related to what you were talking about. This occurred in Heathrow, Florida, an affluent suburb of Orlando. I am glad that I cannot remember the name of the mortgage company or the people but I do recall them blabbing about how they were so worried about the mortgages they were writing, something about if the debtor didn't make the first payment it would go back on their broker. I could never remember their names even if I tried pure memory black out.

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PlayMoney TheSilentMajority Fri, 06/02/2017 - 21:17 Permalink

2 TO 1 odds tha come 2:15 a.m. sunday night silver takes a it does 90% of the time. JPM has a get out of jail card and cares less how obvious it is to those that follow. When they bought Bear (probably at .gov request) to save the world that got them a license to steal from the CFTC. So NO, the rigging will go on as usual as the CFTC watches and laughs.

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Racer Fri, 06/02/2017 - 10:46 Permalink

"spoofing involves traders placing orders that they never intend to fill, in an attempt to manipulate the price."And what about all the HFT spoofing???? 

aliens is here Fri, 06/02/2017 - 10:48 Permalink

Did you guys go on Drudge where a German news paper says F YOU TRUMP. FKING NAZI Kruats has the nerve while their banks do illegal dealings behind closed doors.