Mainstream Media Incitement of Violence Against Republicans Leads to Shooting of U.S. Congressman

The madman who opened fire and shot a sitting U.S. congressman (and majority whip) and others today is a liberal who wanted to "kill as many Republicans as possible", who was a member of a group called "Terminate the Republican Party", and who had recently written:

It’s Time to Destroy Trump & Co.

And at least some liberals expressed pleasure that the congressman was shot.

How did the left become the crazies advocating violence against other Americans?

It’s often said that corruption starts at the top.   And the corporate media has been overtly or covertly calling for violence against the Trump administration for months.  

Trump may be a terrible president, but the media is completely out of hand inciting violence against a sitting president (the New York Times and Time Warner supporting a play showing the assassination of Trump doesn’t help the optics.)

Assassination fantasies have become so common that their are now cartoons about them.

I passionately and continually fight to protect free speech …

But inciting violence is not free speech.

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IranContra Wed, 06/14/2017 - 15:53 Permalink

All media, this forum, too. Hate speech against any group incites violence in itself. Condemn the crime, and the criminal if you think you can judge him and deem him irredeemable. Don't incite hate or violence against the whole group to which the criminal belongs, if you don't want blood on your hands. Plenty of unstable people there, and also those who can be pushed over the edge simply by the words of a troll on ZH.Words are weapons, maybe we should be more careful and more precise how we use them.

Shemp 4 Victory IranContra Wed, 06/14/2017 - 19:08 Permalink

 

Hate speech against any group incites violence in itself.

Even against Iran?

Condemn the crime, and the criminal if you think you can judge him and deem him irredeemable.

...unless he's Iranian, in which case you just know that he's guilty, right?

Don't incite hate or violence against the whole group to which the criminal belongs, if you don't want blood on your hands.

...except for Iran. They deserve all bad things because ... they're Iranian, n'est-ce pas?

Plenty of unstable people there, and also those who can be pushed over the edge simply by the words of a troll on ZH.

Hmmmmm, somehow that sounds a bit familiar.IranContra is a paid troll for the National Council of Resistance of Iran.Which is, of course, just a front group for the MEK (Mujahedin-e Khalq).The MEK, for those unfamiliar with them, is an insane Marxist cult of terrorist crackpots which seeks to overthrow the current government of Iran and replace it with its own people.Iranians from all walks of life regard this group as traitors due to their siding with Saddam Hussein during the Iran-Iraq War.The MEK has been making bogus claims about Iran's nuclear program (with information provided by Israel) for years.Assassinations of Iranian nuclear scientists were carried out by MEK members who had been trained by the Mossad.Because they oppose the Iranian government, the US considers them "good terrorists". Even though they were included in the US list of foreign terrorist organizations, the US Joint Special Operations Command provided MEK operatives with terrorism training at a secret site in Nevada between 2005 and 2009.After an extensive long-term lobbying campaign during which it paid high-profile American politicians (mostly neocons from both the Democrats and Republicans) $50,000 per appearance to make pro-MEK speeches, the group was removed from the official US list of foreign terrorist organizations by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in 2012.MEK members have participated in the current invasion of Syria and the group has run terrorist training camps just outside of the Syrian borders in both Turkey and Jordan.And now one of them is being paid to troll, incompetently, the comments at ZH.

Words are weapons, maybe we should be more careful and more precise how we use them.

Well it is clear as logs...

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nmewn Spine of Ruprecht Thu, 06/15/2017 - 06:06 Permalink

With no repercussions for doing damage to the very thing they defend (I would say, cynically defend) that being their freedom of speech & press.Long ago it was held (properly so imho) that it is not permissible to jump up and yell FIRE! in a crowded theater without there actually being a fire, as that is an incitement to cause panic in the theater, to make the individual audience members take an action they would not have otherwise taken. So it follows that it is not an infringement of free speech to punish the one who abused that right by yelling FIRE! It is recognized by all cognizant human beings that there was no fire. It is also recognized that the audience was purposely panicked by the abusive actions of the one. With freedom comes the responsibility to use it wisely or it can be stripped from you in an instant (and I would gladly lead the mob that stuffs that rag into their mouth) simply because its being purposely abused to eventually take away ours.And all the peeing Russian prostitutes of the world plying their wet-work trade, with all of the "masked" anonymous sources groping around in the darkness of Vermonts hacked power grid while trying to read the purloined "memos" of the disgruntled former employee of Federal Bureau of Matters will not be able to stop us ;-)

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Memedada Spine of Ruprecht Thu, 06/15/2017 - 09:54 Permalink

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Another corporate indoctrinated tool = designed clueless in relation to ideologies. The MSM are privately owned businesses operating in a capitalist economy of other privately owned entities – name me one important profit generating business that is socially or publicly owned in US/or any other Western society today (i.e. the definition of a “socialist economy”)?

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Crush the cube IranContra Wed, 06/14/2017 - 22:25 Permalink

The problem ain't the speech or slinging shit, the problem is the complete breakdown in the rule of law.  What applies for some don't apply for certain others.  I'll guarantee some conservative nut pot would have posted stuff exactly as he did about and during the last administration, he'd have had a visit in force. Better wake up, war is on, and that's what it's going to take.  Sad part is there is no one on your side. 

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jeff montanye Crush the cube Wed, 06/14/2017 - 23:26 Permalink

but don't forget karl rove in the last bush administration: "That's not the way the world really works anymore. We're an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you're studying that reality—judiciously, as you will—we'll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that's how things will sort out. We're history's actors … and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do."

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IranContra Crush the cube Thu, 06/15/2017 - 06:18 Permalink

Since this is as close as it gets to a spiritual discussion on ZH, I'll venture a comment. Yes it is war, war against the goodness that Jesus represents. It is Christ versus Anti-Christ, literally. And Christ will win the war, no doubt about it, because he's got the Almighty God on his side. The Devil is just a garbage compacter.There is a global agenda behind hating everything Jesus Christ. The Left, the Muslim Brotherhood, ISIS, and Iran support and facilitate each other (look what Hillary and Obama did, still do) because they all have one shared common enemy: Jesus Christ. They all would like to "sabotage" and "prevent" Jesus' return (they can't) by enabling Iran to conquer the Middle East through chaos. However, many Muslims in Saudi Arabia and Egypt love Jesus Christ and await his return to save them from Iran where they believe the Anti-Christ hides. The hidden goal of terrorism is to make Christians hate the Quran/Islam/Arabs so that no alliance against the Anti-Christ's armies can be formed between Pro-Christ Arabs and Christians. President Trump saw through this plot and went straight to Saudi Arabia and created the military alliance for Christ and Goodness with good Muslims/Arabs, against Anti-Christ Iran and against other Anti-Christ ideologies (radical Islamist terrorism).

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OverTheHedge Spine of Ruprecht Thu, 06/15/2017 - 02:54 Permalink

Speech is either free or it isn't.However, having the freedom to say anything you want to say, doesn't mean that you should be free from suffering from the consequences of your speech. Incite violence - fine, it's your right, but when said violence occurs - YOU DID THAT! Take ownership of your hate, and suffer the consequences.Except, we are talking about the politically connected here, so no chance of that, ever. You, on the other hand, will go to prison for ever. And they will take your guns away. Interesting that response to Congress members (and I use the term "member" in its pejorative sense) getting shot at is to want to take guns away, not address the reason why people are shooting at them. Oh well, long may they continue to make people really, really mad.

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343 Guilty Spark IranContra Thu, 06/15/2017 - 00:37 Permalink

That would be true if the group wasn't established to produce violence or inherently moved toward that end. Antifa is a prime example of a violent group. The only reason why an antifa group is not violent is if police are actively involved in preventing them to be.On the same token, when most of the MSM is constantly providing misleading information and witch hunt-like narrative 'news' products, you end up with people seeing that they need to fix this 'injustice'. So it is very correct to blame the MSM for this incident.

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IranContra 343 Guilty Spark Thu, 06/15/2017 - 06:49 Permalink

True. Another exception to the rule is "The Islamic Republic" which was created in Paris as an instrument of the Anti-Christ, then transplanted into Iran, established itself with bloodbaths against Iranians, and then continued on its stubborn goal of exporting "the revolution" (chaos). You have to condemn that.The Ayatollah idea is creepy: priests that take 20% of your wealth, have first right to screw your bride and molest your boys, ... It's a cult of sex and death. However, they are able to present themselves as wonderful people. Great liars and conmen. They have infiltrated many nations and they appear as local leaders. I grew up there. It happened in front of me. Cryptos everywhere, posing as Arabs, best talkers on earth, charming, charismatic. I tutored one of them when I was 20. In a relaxed moment, he revealed: "You know, in our faith, I'm supposed to secretly dump garbage in your backyard." Then he laughed. This is the religion of the Anti-Christ. Pure evil. I saw that same look in the eyes of pro-Khomeini Iranians, the Muslim Brotherhood, pro-Assad creeps, ISIS (through the masks), and Liberals when told that Hillary is a war criminal. They are all one: the army of the Anti-Christ.

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IranContra IranContra Thu, 06/15/2017 - 05:38 Permalink

It's also about karma. I'm not Catholic, but until Liberals "confess" that the blood of Libyans and others is on Obama's and Hillary's hands, and demand that these two are tried for their war crimes, until that justice is done, Liberals will remain possessed by a mass-murderous spirit, and they will continue to murder and incite for murder.

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Gerrilea IranContra Thu, 06/15/2017 - 10:24 Permalink

OH pluease..."hate speech"... it doesn't exist!"Words are weapons, maybe we should be more careful..."  NO!  The "politically correct" mentality that has stopped people from telling the truth about Islam and the terrorists it creates IS a perfect example of how the West will be destroyed. An Islamic Terrorist killed almost 50 ppl in Orlando last year and the "narrative" became something out of Orwell's playbook.Freedom of Speech includes words you don't like or hurt your fe-fe's.  The only limit on said is when you threaten someone else or when you incite others to act in an imminent lawless fashion.

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Akzed grunk Thu, 06/15/2017 - 09:44 Permalink

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The key difference between them is that Scalise appears, at least to this point, to have actually been shot.

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shimmy Wed, 06/14/2017 - 22:01 Permalink

This is what happens when you let a cult (not all liberals but a group of them that are crazy, media included, and are known as libtards) that is morphing into a terrorist organization go unchecked. It's time people quit mocking them as snowflake pussies and realize the potential danger they possess. They're far more dangerous to America than so called Muslim terrorists. 

Thom Paine Wed, 06/14/2017 - 22:06 Permalink

NY Times a co sponsor of mahem and murder in the USA, so long as they can connect it to Trump.The NY Times as dangerous to America as any terrorist.The NY Times is the treasonous terrorists within.

Cabreado Wed, 06/14/2017 - 22:10 Permalink

The "liberals" and the "left" and the "democrats" and the "progressives"... the labels and label-making aren't working so well, even with everyone comparing notes -- go figure.Best (er, critical) to Focus on corrupt points of control, and rule of law.And it's not a coincidence that neither has anything to do with politics, parties or even so-called "ideology."

Never One Roach Wed, 06/14/2017 - 22:32 Permalink

Hopefully someone sues CNN for inciting this guy to violence if they can find a link between him and CNN or the other hate sites he visited online. The Supreme Court has ruled that incitment to lawlessness is not protected free speech. Brandenburg v. Ohio, 395 U.S. 444 (1969), was a landmark United States Supreme Court case based on the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. The Court held that government cannot punish inflammatory speech unless that speech is "directed to inciting or producing imminent lawless action and is likely to incite or produce such action."

Gerrilea Never One Roach Thu, 06/15/2017 - 00:53 Permalink

Agreed to a point.  The guy would had to have said, CNN, MSNBC or the NYT "reporting" made me do it.Even then it'd be hard to prove they did anything wrong, even if he said it. Imminent lawless action means "at that moment"...like standing at the Court House after a verdict is released and someone says, "Kill them all", that would be "imminent".Be clear, I don't agree with anything the media says and I think we all can agree that they've made race relations worse with their never ending "white guilt/supremacy" narrative.  Should they be held accountable, ABSOLUTELY...hit them in the pocketbook...boycott their advertisers, hold rally's against them...and so on.It would take a very slick lawyer to show premeditation, collusion and intent to "rile the masses" into anarchy or for that matter, just one crazy individual, into acting lawlessly.I really think they're pushing the line when media figureheads say the POTUS should be "taken out" or when the President was being inaugurated and them showing a clip from a TV series showing the POTUS being assassinated.Now, I'd go for rescinding their FCC licenses and "press credentials", hell, take away their incorporation papers...make the people that own it, responsible for what their employees say and do. 

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Insurrexion Wed, 06/14/2017 - 23:16 Permalink

Come on George.You can be a cunt, but don't be a a smelly cunt.Of course, inciting violence "could be" prosecuted against the liberal establishment's icons of information.But, is that the game that is really being played here?What if inciting violence on both sides of the brain-washed masses is the NWO's strategy?What if the NWO is getting tired of their lazy libtards not taking more extreme action?George Soros is getting annoyed that so much failure is costing him so much money.Next step...bring in the left-wing nut jobs to (poorly) shoot up a baseball field full of Republicans.The NWO hopes it will cause a backlash (after all this time and money they put into their investment) and equally violent reaction. Which, in turn, causes an equally violent reaction, and so on. If it does not work, then they go after a higher target until it does work.What you are seeing is much more than "butt-hurt" Capiche?

WTFUD Thu, 06/15/2017 - 00:30 Permalink

I'd like to see tit-for-tat political executions until they're ALL deaded GW. Let's not forget there's only a handful of good guys/galls here ( Tulsi Gabbard for one seems legit ). No i wouldn't lose a minutes sleep if an ICBM hit Congress and the Senate while both Houses were in full session.

Once these traitorous filth are out the way we begin summary executions of the Bankers & other murdering scum that make up the MIC.

999 our dick's on the line.