Human Guinea Pigs: Congress Slams Door On Pentagon Biochemical Weapons Testing Declassification

In the 1960's and 1970's the US government tested chemical and biological weapons on US troops in still little known secret programs called Projects 112 and SHAD (Shipboard Hazard and Defense). The Vietnam era tests involved some 6,000 military personnel being subject to experiments involving deadly nerve agents like sarin and VX, as well as biological agents like E. Coli, all of which can result in quick death or potential lifelong debilitating health issues such as long-term central nervous system failure. A fatal dose of VX nerve agent, for example, can kill in minutes, but it is unknown if the program resulted in deaths because documents remain classified as "Top Secret" even 50 years later. Veterans advocacy groups have long tried to get specifics of the program declassified in the hopes that disclosure might allow victims of the tests access to health benefits and better medical treatment, but on Thursday Congress slammed the door on these attempts, leaving veterans and some congressional sponsors outraged.

USS George Eastman personnel were among those identified by the National
Academies of
Sciences as subject to US government experiments in biochem warfare.

Some limited details of the highly classified program came to light in 2000, when the Department of Veterans Affairs obtained documents related to the program from the Pentagon in order to study medical treatments for claimants. But veteran victims of testing have long been left in the lurch as the Pentagon decides how much information should be shared with the public. Veterans Affairs has an official statement on its website - the result of in-house studies in coordination with the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine, claiming there's no evidence that exposure has led to ill-health:

Project 112/Project SHAD, or Shipboard Hazard and Defense, was a series of tests conducted by the Department of Defense from 1962 to 1974. Servicemembers participated in conducting the tests. The purpose was to determine the potential risks to U.S. warships and American forces from chemical and biological warfare agents.


To date, there is no clear evidence of specific, long-term health problems associated with participation in Project SHAD.

Disturbingly, the National Academies admits in a 2016 study that among the 6000 personnel involved in the tests...

Only some of the involved military personnel were aware of the nature of the tests at the time they were conducted.

Table: National Academies of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine study of
Project SHAD agents used on troop personnel and hypothesized health effects.

Reps. Mike Thompson, D-Calif., Don Young, R-Alaska, and Walter Jones, R-N.C. have worked on behalf of veterans groups to put the issue before Congress. The congressmen sponsored language in a defense policy bill this week that would force the secretary of defense to either declassify documents related to the chemical program or explain to Congress why he can't. The Pentagon has kept silent on the issue.

On Thursday the House Rules Committee, which decides what goes before the House floor, struck down the proposal, so the declassification won't even be up for discussion before Congress. An enraged Rep. Thompson called the fact that it didn't even make it out of committee "shameful" and took to the house floor saying:

These tests were an ugly part of our history. They put veteran lives at risk. And our veterans have every right to know what it was they were exposed to, how much they were exposed to, we need to think about their safety and their security.

A number of veteran spokespersons questioned how greater public knowledge of the experiments would compromise national security, which appears to be the Pentagon's position. Government classification often has more to do with covering up embarrassing secrets and preventing lawsuits than national security. A number of outrageously immoral programs going back to the middle of the last century are already well-known and documented, including Mk-Ultra, Operation Paperclip, and nuclear testing on soldiers. Thompson told McClatchy News just prior to the proposal going to committee:

It’s been over 50 years since these tests were conducted and the DOD has yet to provide a complete accounting of what truly happened to our service members. Veterans can’t wait any longer.

It is entirely possible that buried amidst the stacks of Top Secret DoD documentation on project SHAD is the United States' own horrific Ronald Maddison story. Maddison was victim of what is widely considered to be the most sickeningly scandalous case of human experimentation in UK history. In 1953 Maddison, a 20-year-old Royal Air Force engineer, thought he had volunteered for mild experiments related to curing the common cold. Instead he was given a large dose of liquid sarin drops applied directly to his skin by military scientists at England's Porton Down labs in order to study the effects. Maddison died an agonizing death, which the UK government spent decades covering up.

Ronald Maddison, subject of
UK chemical testing at Porton Down

Details of the Ronald Maddison story only came to light over 50 years after his death, when an unwitting eyewitness named Alfred Thornhill went public. Thornhill told The Guardian:

"I saw his leg rise up from the bed and I saw his skin begin turning blue. It started from the ankle and started spreading up his leg. It was like watching somebody pouring a blue liquid into a glass, it just began filling up. I was standing by the bed gawping. It was like watching something from outer space and then one of the doctors produced the biggest needle I had ever seen. It was the size of a bicycle pump and went down onto the lad's body. The sister saw me gawping and told me to get out."

Maddison's ordeal was not an isolated case of chemical weapons testing using human guinea pigs in either Britain or America, but it was certainly one of the ugliest in terms of the circumstances of his death. As 6000 possibly sick US veterans got the door slammed in their faces yesterday regarding project SHAD, we must ask: what is the Pentagon hiding?


Looney gregga777 Fri, 07/14/2017 - 20:21 Permalink

  Slightly OT… According to the Foreign Policy, Private Email of Top U.S. Russia Intelligence Official Hacked On Tuesday morning, a hacker going by the name Johnnie Walker sent a group email to an unknown number of recipients claiming to have a trove of emails from the private account of a U.S. intelligence official. “The U.S. State Department officer’s email has been hacked,” the email announced, and included at least two years’ worth of personal emails from the private Gmail account of a State Department official working in the secretive intelligence arm of the State Department focusing on Russia.  “He’s probably the top intelligence guy in the entire U.S. government on Russia. He knows more than anybody about what’s going on there,” said one source whose correspondence with the official was revealed in the hack.” It’s time to rein the Amish Hackers in!  ;-) Looney

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MonkeyKnutz Common_Law Fri, 07/14/2017 - 21:21 Permalink

Had a damn good friend, served in the first Gulf War.  Great guy, knew him and his family for 30+ yrs.  Died of Kidney Cancer when he was 37 years old.  No history of cancer in either branches of his falmily.  Left behind a wife and two beutiful daughters...I am sure it wasn't the depleted uranium rounds...nahh, probably nothing to do with that.....As said above  "They dont give a Fuck about you, they dont give a Fuck about you, they dont give a Fuck about you, or you, or even you."

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Cheka_Mate xrxs Fri, 07/14/2017 - 22:21 Permalink

What are they hiding?How about the invention of the HIV virus by Dr Robert Gallo under the Biological Weapons Department of the Navy in Ft Detrick Maryland.It only cost the US government $10 million under Operation MK Naomi.Get this.  The cure for HIV was invented in 1964 at the University of Michigan - AZT.  15 years BEFORE the outbreak. thing you know, there's a full blown AIDS crisis and it's worth $500+ million per year.

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SubjectivObject SubjectivObject Sat, 07/15/2017 - 09:43 Permalink

"House Rules Committee"… (115th Congress) Committee on Rules Members, 2017-2018Republican members (9)• Pete Sessions (Texas) Chairman• Tom Cole (Oklahoma)• Rob Woodall (Georgia)• Michael Burgess (Texas)• Doug Collins (Georgia)• Bradley Byrne (Alabama)• Dan Newhouse (Washington)• Ken Buck (Colorado)• Liz Cheney (Wyoming) Democratic members (4)• Louise Slaughter (New York) Ranking Member• Jim McGovern (Massachusetts)• Alcee Hastings (Florida) • Jared Polis (Colorado) 

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AtATrESICI Fri, 07/14/2017 - 20:11 Permalink

Never in the land of the free and home of the brave... Joking! the USSA will brake it off fully in side of anyone. they don't give a fuck about you they don't give a fuck about you they don't give a fuck about you

earleflorida CRM114 Fri, 07/14/2017 - 22:47 Permalink

nice find!he was great at going to war being a tory scumbagmother was a wealthy jew who socialized with the roosevelts, and got little winston his news credentials with shit for experience and twice the salary as seasoned foreign journalisthis naval adventurism cost thousands of lives in gallipoli war (ANZAC troops) , and during wwi he argued with pm Ll George that the eastern front was the only way for victory. he was wrong on gollipoli and the eastern front--- the war was won on the western front from the beginning!he had eisenhower bomb 'dresden' to ashes (an unneccessary venture the war was over) for fire-bombing london while he was 10 stories underground in a controlled-temp bunker smoking cigars and drinking his booze eating prime rib, telling the slobs in the shelters and mud above to keep a stiff upper-lip!!!

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cherry picker Fri, 07/14/2017 - 20:19 Permalink

Congress is guilty of crimes against humanity.If the God that is advertised exists, one day all of these people may be turned into pillars of salt or glow in the dark.From what I remember God is not politically correct and when pissed would smite nations.   men, women and children.I guess we have to wait but the Nazis didn't last, neither the Romans and the English Empire is down to an island and the Ussr is also history.

Ms No Fri, 07/14/2017 - 20:27 Permalink

This subject tells you everything you need to know about how stupid the masses really are.  What is Trump going to do about this?  This is pure evil and it has never stopped.  How can people stand the fact that evil govenments have children, adults and animals trapped somewhere for experimentation?  It happens on a very large scale during war but the programs are continuous and ongoing.  It is happening all the time because no one has ever put a stop to it.  What is worse is that they are just developing things that could kill the rest of us.  Furthermore, as a result of these centuries long programs any and all disease outbreaks are suspect.  The US also has disease tinkering facilities in the Ukraine.  Think about it.How come we always hear about Germany but we never here about this?  Newly released historical documents are giving insight into a mass killing during the World War II era that is not covered in public schools. Japanese Unit 731, a group that specialized in biological warfare, committed horrifying atrocities during the Japanese Army's occupation of northeast China—and the United States was complicit in its cover up. Jin Chengmin, a curator for the museum, described the main purpose of the unit's activities as "human experiments, production, experiments and use of germ weapons." He told Xinhua News that more than 3,000 people were subjected to experimentation at Unit 731, including prisoners of war and civilian men, women and children. The victims suffered gruesome deaths at the hands of a variety of cruel experiments carried out by their captors.Unit 731's biological warfare included committing atrocities such as breading plague microbes and then deliberately infecting thousands of men, women and child to study the results; transfusing humans with horse blood and testing the effects of different weapons on the body; and experiments in vivisection, air pressure and frostbite.... "I cut him open from the chest to the stomach, and he screamed terribly, and his face was all twisted in agony. He made this unimaginable sound, he was screaming so horribly,"  "But then finally he stopped. This was all in a day's work for the surgeons, but it really left an impression on me because it was my first time.""If war had not ended in 1945 and Japan had begun large-scale germ warfare, that could lead to the disappearance of humans, given the production capacity of Unit 731," Yang Yanjun, associate researcher at the Unit 731 Research Center of Harbin Academy of Social Sciences, told Xinhua News."

cherry picker Ms No Fri, 07/14/2017 - 20:44 Permalink

When a government promotes the use of immoral means to its population in justification for something, such as revenge in the case of Afghanistan and Iraq, the burden of guilt is spread among many, making it easier to perform attrocities.But the people who have to do the dirty work are often scarred for life.Believe in God or not, but the commandment, Thous Shalt not Murder I personally can find no fault with, just like the commandments about stealing or bearing false witness.A person does not necessarily have to believe in God to see that the commandments were designed for humanity to get along with one another and achieve peace in their lives.  For example, how many people have cheated on their spouses and not felt guilt or turmoil.The USA will go down, no doubt about it, unless it changes its ways, but it won't.They would rather worship the US Dollar, American Sniper, Pastor Dollar, Hollywood Porn, Karashian and those sexy looking news gals working for all the networks who lie through their teeth. 

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Ms No cherry picker Fri, 07/14/2017 - 21:16 Permalink

I wonder what is going on in Saudi Arabia.  They can do anything they want in the kingdom of poet crucifixion and extremist indoctrination.  We still don't know exactly how they have created all of these crazies that are among the ranks of ISIS.  How do their indoctrination programs work?  Did they lock children in basements?  Are they using shock treatment and drugs?  Are they using torture? Have they found new methods?  Its a perfect place to get away with anything.With the Clintons being tied to that female child trafficker in Haiti (in addition to the Jewish hedge fund manager's Lolita Island trips), you really have to wonder.  Are these children hidden away and used for experimentation purposes in addition to being sold to perspective parents and child traffickers?  We all know that black Haitian babies are not that valuable on the market.  So where were they going?  Human trafficking is through the roof and increasing by the year.  Organ harvesting is through the roof.  These programs can purchase people out of those operations, no problem.  We know they have whole rendition plane operations and the CIA can do whatever they want, and they will.Not only does the average citizen not realize what is going on now but they could hardly guess what it will look like if these people get complete control.  It is scary to think that eventually this will all just come out in the open and they could use it against all of us for intimidation and full lockdown control.

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cherry picker Ms No Fri, 07/14/2017 - 21:37 Permalink

I agree with you.  Vast swaths of the USA population and other nations are complicit.If it bothered people, this would be the headliner on ZH, but only 10 people commented so far and this post has been up for awhile.Where is the outrage?We can't totally blame the psychopaths if the people they rule have no aversion to this stuff.I asked my friend before he died, "Hey Jim, do you know why you were fighting over there in Vietnam?""The president ordered it, that is good enough for me."My friend was not stupid and he was highly decorated.  He was also an alcoholic.  Couldn't live with it I suppose.That is the danger of unquestioning patriotism. There are many citizens who are just as guilty as their leaders and the common person will not admit it as the truth is difficult to bear.  They can march for transgender bathrooms and watching parades where people are gyrating obscenely on floats, but they can't lift a finger for righteousness.

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Ms No cherry picker Fri, 07/14/2017 - 22:13 Permalink

I honestly think that there is only a certain percentage of the population that can handle even thinking about it.  People generally become terrified when contemplating the subject, among others.  They can't handle it so they don't want to believe it.  We ourselves might be able to handle it in print but if we saw it up close we likely wouldn't be able to handle it either.  Even our toughest soldiers come back killing themselves after exposure to the deeds of this evil.That is one of the reasons why human beings have failed to properly deal with the population of psychopaths.  When people cant muster up the resolve to even look at the horid reality they certainly can't take action to protect their populations from it.  Basically it's cowardess and the inability to confront scary, emotionally disturbing facts and their real human consequences.  The coward part comes in because they know in the back of their mind that they become at higher risk for discussing and protesting against these things.  So they will just be cowards and maybe their kids will be safe.  As we can see with our food supply that clearly was not the case.

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CRM114 Ms No Fri, 07/14/2017 - 21:17 Permalink

Since Unit 731 also conducted mass infection tests on Chinese cities, you can up their death toll to somewhere between a quarter and half a million.The bosses at 731 were granted immunity by the US Government in exchange for their knowledge of biological agents.Uncle Sam has a dark past.

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Ms No FixItAgainTony Sat, 07/15/2017 - 03:20 Permalink

They admitted it was US weapons grade anthrax.  Apparently you can tell how long its been removed from the original strain because it changes.  Then they framed that scientist who worked for them.  All the employees backed the doctor.  Then he was suicided. "A top government scientist who helped the FBI analyze samples from the 2001 anthrax attacks has died in Maryland from an apparent suicide, just as the Justice Department was about to file criminal charges against him for the attacks, the Los Angeles Times has learned.Bruce E. Ivins, 62, who for the last 18 years worked at the government's elite biodefense research laboratories at Ft. Detrick, Md., had been informed of his impending prosecution, said people familiar with Ivins, his suspicious death and the FBI investigation."Unfuckingbelievable!  But if you mention this in this brain dead and brainwashed country they will call you crazy.  They are crazy the government has their brain, a psychopathic government at that.  What ever you do don't mention building 7.  They'll damn near put you in a straightjacket for that shit.  Then you'll probably get experimented on.  We are living in an insane asylum.

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WTFUD Fri, 07/14/2017 - 20:27 Permalink

Like Bhopal (blow me pal ) this will remain under the carpet. At least the Pentagon is consistent in fucking EVERYONE over. Congress remain, in keeping with protocol, treasonous bastards.

Chupacabra-322 Fri, 07/14/2017 - 20:37 Permalink

A History Of US Secret
Human Experimentation

1931 Dr. Cornelius Rhoads, under the auspices of the Rockefeller Institute for Medical Investigations, infects human subjects with cancer cells. He later goes on to establish the U.S. Army Biological Warfare facilities in Maryland, Utah, and Panama, and is named to the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission. While there, he begins a series of radiation exposure experiments on American soldiers and civilian hospital patients.

1932 The Tuskegee Syphilis Study begins. 200 black men diagnosed with syphilis are never told of their illness, are denied treatment, and instead are used as human guinea pigs in order to follow the progression and symptoms of the disease. They all subsequently die from syphilis, their families never told that they could have been treated.

1935 The Pellagra Incident. After millions of individuals die from Pellagra over a span of two decades, the U.S. Public Health Service finally acts to stem the disease. The director of the agency admits it had known for at least 20 years that Pellagra is caused by a niacin deficiency but failed to act since most of the deaths occured within poverty-striken black populations.

1940 Four hundred prisoners in Chicago are infected with Malaria in order to study the effects of new and experimental drugs to
combat the disease. Nazi doctors later on trial at Nuremberg cite this American study to defend their own actions during the Holocaust.

1942 Chemical Warfare Services begins mustard gas experiments on approximately 4,000 servicemen. The experiments continue until 1945 and made use of Seventh Day Adventists who chose to become human guinea pigs rather than serve on active duty.

1943 In response to Japan's full-scale germ warfare program, the U.S. begins research on biological weapons at Fort Detrick, MD.

1944 U.S. Navy uses human subjects to test gas masks and clothing. Individuals were locked in a gas chamber and exposed to mustard gas and lewisite.

1945 Project Paperclip is initiated. The U.S. State Department, Army intelligence, and the CIA recruit Nazi scientists and offer them immunity and secret identities in exchange for work on top secret government projects in the United States.

1945 "Program F" is implemented by the U.S. Atomic Energy Commission (AEC). This is the most extensive U.S. study of the health effects of fluoride, which was the key chemical component in atomic bomb production. One of the most toxic chemicals known to man, fluoride, it is found, causes marked adverse effects to the central nervous system but much of the information is squelched in the name of national security because of fear that lawsuits would undermine full-scale production of atomic bombs.

1946 Patients in VA hospitals are used as guinea pigs for medical experiments. In order to allay suspicions, the order is given to change the word "experiments" to "investigations" or "observations" whenever reporting a medical study performed in one of the nation's veteran's hospitals.

1947 Colonel E.E. Kirkpatrick of the U.S. Atomic Energy Comission issues a secret document (Document 07075001, January 8, 1947) stating that the agency will begin administering intravenous doses of radioactive substances to human subjects.

1947 The CIA begins its study of LSD as a potential weapon for use by American intelligence. Human subjects (both civilian and military) are used with and without their knowledge.

1950 Department of Defense begins plans to detonate nuclear weapons in desert areas and monitor downwind residents for medical problems and mortality rates.

1950 I n an experiment to determine how susceptible an American city would be to biological attack, the U.S. Navy sprays a cloud of bacteria from ships over San Franciso. Monitoring devices are situated throughout the city in order to test the extent of infection. Many residents become ill with pneumonia-like symptoms.

1951 Department of Defense begins open air tests using disease-producing bacteria and viruses. Tests last through 1969 and there is concern that people in the surrounding areas have been exposed.

1953 U.S. military releases clouds of zinc cadmium sulfide gas over Winnipeg, St. Louis, Minneapolis, Fort Wayne, the Monocacy River Valley in Maryland, and Leesburg, Virginia. Their intent is to determine how efficiently they could disperse chemical agents.

1953 Joint Army-Navy-CIA experiments are conducted in which tens of thousands of people in New York and San Francisco are exposed to the airborne germs Serratia marcescens and Bacillus glogigii.

1953 CIA initiates Project MKULTRA. This is an eleven year research program designed to produce and test drugs and biological agents that would be used for mind control and behavior modification. Six of the subprojects involved testing the agents on unwitting human beings.

1955 The CIA, in an experiment to test its ability to infect human populations with biological agents, releases a bacteria withdrawn from the Army's biological warfare arsenal over Tampa Bay, Fl.

1955 Army Chemical Corps continues LSD research, studying its potential use as a chemical incapacitating agent. More than 1,000 Americans participate in the tests, which continue until 1958.

1956 U.S. military releases mosquitoes infected with Yellow Fever over Savannah, Ga and Avon Park, Fl. Following each test, Army agents posing as public health officials test victims for effects.

1958 LSD is tested on 95 volunteers at the Army's Chemical Warfare Laboratories for its effect on intelligence.

1960 The Army Assistant Chief-of-Staff for Intelligence (ACSI) authorizes field testing of LSD in Europe and the Far East. Testing of the european population is code named Project THIRD CHANCE; testing of the Asian population is code named Project DERBY HAT.

1965 Project CIA and Department of Defense begin Project MKSEARCH, a program to develop a capability to manipulate human behavior through the use of mind-altering drugs.

1965 Prisoners at the Holmesburg State Prison in Philadelphia are subjected to dioxin, the highly toxic chemical component of Agent Orange used in Viet Nam. The men are later studied for development of cancer, which indicates that Agent Orange had been a suspected carcinogen all along.

1966 CIA initiates Project MKOFTEN, a program to test the toxicological effects of certain drugs on humans and animals.

1966 U.S. Army dispenses Bacillus subtilis variant niger throughout the New York City subway system. More than a million civilians are exposed when army scientists drop lightbulbs filled with the bacteria onto ventilation grates.

1967 CIA and Department of Defense implement Project MKNAOMI, successor to MKULTRA and designed to maintain, stockpile and test biological and chemical weapons.

1968 CIA experiments with the possibility of poisoning drinking water by injecting chemicals into the water supply of the FDA in Washington, D.C.

1969 Dr. Robert MacMahan of the Department of Defense requests from congress $10 million to develop, within 5 to 10 years, a synthetic biological agent to which no natural immunity exists.

1970 Funding for the synthetic biological agent is obtained under H.R. 15090. The project, under the supervision of the CIA, is carried out by the Special Operations Division at Fort Detrick, the army's top secret biological weapons facility. Speculation is raised that molecular biology techniques are used to produce AIDS-like retroviruses.

1970 United States intensifies its development of "ethnic weapons" (Military Review, Nov., 1970), designed to selectively target and eliminate specific ethnic groups who are susceptible due to genetic differences and variations in DNA.

1975 The virus section of Fort Detrick's Center for Biological Warfare Research is renamed the Fredrick Cancer Research Facilities and placed under the supervision of the National Cancer Institute (NCI) . It is here that a special virus cancer program is initiated by the U.S. Navy, purportedly to develop cancer-causing viruses. It is also here that retrovirologists isolate a virus to which no immunity exists. It is later named HTLV (Human T-cell Leukemia Virus).

1977 Senate hearings on Health and Scientific Research confirm that 239 populated areas had been contaminated with biological agents between 1949 and 1969. Some of the areas included San Francisco, Washington, D.C., Key West, Panama City, Minneapolis, and St. Louis.

1978 Experimental Hepatitis B vaccine trials, conducted by the CDC, begin in New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco. Ads for research subjects specifically ask for promiscuous homosexual men.

1981 First cases of AIDS are confirmed in homosexual men in New York, Los Angeles and San Francisco, triggering speculation that AIDS may have been introduced via the Hepatitis B vaccine

1985 According to the journal Science (227:173-177), HTLV and VISNA, a fatal sheep virus, are very similar, indicating a close taxonomic and evolutionary relationship.

Ms No Chupacabra-322 Fri, 07/14/2017 - 21:21 Permalink

What is really scary is that all of that is just the tip of the iceberg.  These are spots where they got sloppy and caught, or admitted to.  Most certainly the vast majority we have no idea about. We should probably also add GMO, glyphosate, vaccines and flouride.  They knew a few things about what those did, most likely by feeding them to the population before anybody knew, but anytime something is introduced to the entire population they will be watching for decades to see the results because even they will be surprised by things.  They will of course keep this to themselves and anytime some independent tries to do the same research they will have big problems. 

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Silverlok Ms No Fri, 07/14/2017 - 21:50 Permalink

TIP OF THE ICE BURG....Prophetic."..add GMO, glyphosate, vaccines and flouride.  They knew a few things about what those did, most likely by feeding them to the population before anybody knew..."...just because it is written in stone on the 'Georgia guide stones', does not mean it is more than fantasy ( in some strageties) , right? One of these agile minded tylers needs to write a " what if " piece; as in ,what if hillary had won?...wwIII tops the list, but there must have been a plan B, ...;I assume that is wide range dispersal of biological weapons riding on the back of fukushima's impact. (a test perhaps:… )

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meditate_vigorously (not verified) Chupacabra-322 Sat, 07/15/2017 - 01:33 Permalink

You could include the EPA doing human experiments without consent in the 90s, and the US Army doing a lot of testing without full disclosure on vaccines in the 2000's. Some of that stuff from the early Iraq War is still not public.

They fucked up my sinuses requiring surgery, with the experimental nasal spray 'flu' vaccine that was pulled after 1 season of human experimentation, for example. That was not voluntary.

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Montana Cowboy Fri, 07/14/2017 - 20:49 Permalink

It amazes me that horror stories like this can come out for almost a century now and Americans can still enlist and feel honorable about serving their country. They are serving the will of malevolent sociopaths. It makes it very difficult to shed a tear when one of them takes a bullet.

stant Fri, 07/14/2017 - 20:46 Permalink

The Germans tested weapons on thier own people. A slightly burnt document recently sold at auction when decrypted stated so. Kommandostelle was the SS unit that did the assessment in the report of the v2 was used on German villages. They were told it was the allies. Do you think after all the shit we've seen in the last 20 plus yrs that .gov isn't capable of it?