Former CIA Director Calls For A Coup If Trump Fires Mueller

In the most vocal opposition to president Donald Trump yet, former CIA Director John Brennan said that if the White House tries to fire special counsel Robert Mueller, government officials should refuse to follow the president orders, as they would be - in his view - “inconsistent” with the duties of the executive branch.

"I think it's the obligation of some executive branch officials to refuse to carry that out. I would just hope that this is not going to be a partisan issue. That Republicans, Democrats are going to see that the future of this government is at stake and something needs to be done for the good of the future," Brennan told CNN's Wolf Blitzer at the Aspen Security Forum, effectively calling for a coup against the president should Trump give the order to fire Mueller.

The exchange is 43 minutes into the clip below:

(Full transcript here)

Brennan appeared alongside his former colleague, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, and both men who served in the Obama administration, told Blitzer they have total confidence in Mueller. "Absolutely. It was an inspired choice- they don't come any better, " Brennan said adding that "If Mueller is fired, I hope our elected reps will stand up and say enough is enough." Some have responded with questions where Brennan's devotion to the Constitution was in the aftermath of the events in Benghazi.

Falling back on his neocon roots, James Clapper, who has waged a long-running vendetta with Trump, once again warned about Russian interference in US affairs. When asked about the June 2016 meeting between Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort with a Russian lawyer and others, he responded: "I'm an old school, Cold War warrior and all that - so I have, there's truth in advertising, great suspicions about the Russians and what they do. A lot of this to me had kind of the standard textbook tradecraft long deployed by Russians. It would have been a really good idea maybe to have vetted whoever they were meeting with."

Clapper was also asked about Trump's comparison of the intelligence community to Nazi Germany. Clapper said he called the President-elect nine days before he left the Obama administration saying he "couldn't let that reference pass" and it was an insult to him, CIA Director John Brennan and the workforce. "That was a terrible, insulting affront, not just to me or John, we get paid the big bucks, but I'm talking about the rank and file, men and women, patriots and intelligence community -- that was completely inappropriate and over the top - I had to do something about it."

And so he did: on the call Clapper said Trump asked him to "to put out a statement rebutting the contents of the dossier which I couldn't and wouldn't do. It was kind of transactional" referring to a dossier that alleged ties between President Donald Trump's campaign and Russia. It was not clear if he wouldn't and couldn't do it because the contents were legitimate, in his view, or because the dossier is what started the whole "Russian collusion" narrative in the first place. Curiously, Clapper saw it as a favor to Trump not to issue a statement: Clapper was asked by Blitzer why he didn't put out a statement replying: "The whole point of the dossier by the way was we felt an obligation to warn him to alert him to the fact it was out there. That was the whole point."

It was not clear if James Comey, whose subsequent leak to the NYT led to the appointment of Mueller, would have applied the same reasoning when asked by Trump to rebut the dossier's contents.


FreddieX WarPony Mon, 07/24/2017 - 20:41 Permalink

Reposting comment ... US intelligence chiefs urge Congress, executive to defy TrumpBy Patrick Martin24 July 2017 In remarks that have no parallel since the emergence of the US national-security state after World War II, the two former leaders of the intelligence apparatus told a forum in Aspen, Colorado Friday that President Trump’s loyalty to the United States was in question. They suggested that executive branch officials should refuse to carry out his orders. The comments by former CIA Director John Brennan and former Director of National Intelligence (DNI) James Clapper came at an annual forum sponsored by the Aspen Institute that brings together the national security establishment. Present at the event were high-level representatives of the Trump administration, Congress and the media. Former US director of national intelligence campaigns against Trump in AustraliaBy James Cogan9 June 2017 Another vocal critic of US President Donald Trump has been provided a high-profile stage in Australia to denounce Russia and campaign for the president’s removal. Last week, it was Senator John McCain, chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee. This week, it was James Clapper, a former general, who was the national intelligence director from 2010 until Trump’s inauguration in January....Not one journalist asked Clapper the obvious question: why should any credibility be given to any claim he makes, on any subject? He has spent most of the past seven years presiding over agencies that carry out espionage and intrigue against governments and corporations internationally, including numerous illegal assassinations and regime-change operations. Senator McCain solicits support in Australia for Trump’s removal1 June 2017 Among the most fundamental precepts of US foreign policy is the adage: “Politics stops at the water’s edge.” Coined in 1947 at the start of the Cold War by Republican Senator Arthur H. Vandenberg, the phrase expresses the conception that, whatever the internal divisions over foreign policy, they must be subordinated to the united front the US political establishment presents to the world. Under no circumstances should an American political leader traveling abroad denounce the head of state. This principle was explosively thrown overboard by Arizona Senator John McCain on Tuesday. Speaking in Australia before high-ranking state and military officials, including two former prime ministers, McCain delivered a damning indictment of Donald Trump and called upon the Australian government to defy his administration.

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Manthong Dormouse Mon, 07/24/2017 - 22:39 Permalink

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  Brennan, Clapper and Blitzer. My only dilemma is trying to discern which one of them is the most distasteful, duplicitous PoS.

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JSBach1 MayIMommaDogFa… Tue, 07/25/2017 - 02:39 Permalink

The arrogance of these Deep State succorers can only be measured by the thickness of the ropes, which await them at the gallows, in a just society that is: a reward deserving of their callus nature to the positions they were appointed to by the "peoples' " representatives in accordance to the undercurrent of the select few peoples whose interests they truly represent.

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grannysue JSBach1 Tue, 07/25/2017 - 14:50 Permalink

Treason should be dealt with quickly and harshly. In our society, there are far too many who have committed sedition thinking they can get away with it. PUt a few of these in prison charge them with treason and have them pay for their crimes accordingly. These men are the scum of the earth, no conscience, selling out their own country for a mess of potage.

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fleur de lis Big Twinkie Tue, 07/25/2017 - 07:43 Permalink

Brennan is a moron who only got appointed to the CIA because he is a trusted water boy.He takes his orders from the Kagan gang who run the Institute for the Study of War, and who instigate conflict.He is pu**y whipped by Kimberly Kagan and her in law Vicky Neudelmann.Kagan's fat tub o'lard husband never saw a day of military service yet hoisted himself onto a plane with her to view all the carnage in Iraq.No wonder Brennan sups at their trough. Here are the Kagan psychos on tour of Iraq to view their project and making sure that their American servicemen employees are following instructions --… Kagan family portraits --… Kagan in-law Vicky Neudelmann rehearses with her underling about what he will recite to the American people: Kimberly Kagan poses with the big fish she caught -- 

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mtl4 FreddieX Tue, 07/25/2017 - 08:19 Permalink

All of these current and ex-deep state folks should be removed and tried for sedition, the statute is very clear. 

If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.

 Open and shut case IMHO, depending on the war definition you may even get them for the larger penalty of Treason.

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FreddieX Rusty Trombone Tue, 07/25/2017 - 09:36 Permalink

mtl:"All of these current and ex-deep state folks should be removed and tried for sedition, the statute is very clear."From"Among those in the audience at Aspen were several leading Republican congressmen, including Mac Thornberry, chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, and Michael McCaul, chairman of the Homeland Security Committee. Several top Trump administration officials also addressed sessions of the weekend meeting, including CIA Director Mike Pompeo and Director of National Intelligence Dan Coats."

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SybilDefense FreddieX Tue, 07/25/2017 - 10:05 Permalink

Ahh, Mac Thornberry.  Sponsored the (buried) bill after Obamas first term to repeal the Smith Mundt act, which since '87 prevented using propaganda on American soil.  Shits been increasingly stinking since lieing was made legal to "shape the people", a phrase Obama repeats over and over during his presidency. 

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The Gun Is Good mtl4 Tue, 07/25/2017 - 20:55 Permalink

"...[Y]ou may even get them for the larger penalty of Treason."Exactly. And if justice isn't meted out by the end of Trump's current term in office, then private citizens will be left to perform the task. If any attempt at a coup occurs, private citizens will need to enact the same protocol immediately.(Crushing these Deep State cockroach fucks is fast becoming our only path to realizing freedom once again... and *maybe* even restoring the Republic? Once can dream....)

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land_of_the_few Vatican_cameo Tue, 07/25/2017 - 03:01 Permalink

Who doesn't want to see three balding portly lunatics on stage pretending to be terribly serious."do you think they'll fall for it Wolfy?" "sure, you got your eyeshadow on just right, nice shirt" "I think i lost my Pepto-Bismol"Perhaps they think they can take McCain's place. Particularly the news announcer, who is pretending to be a politician, he's like the boss's PA who thinks she runs the company. Or the lady whose man passes away and then goes around pretending she created his company.Come to think of it, *all three are like that*.

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dark pools of soros harleyjohn45 Mon, 07/24/2017 - 22:25 Permalink

who the fuck are they crying out to? they want all the peasants that get assraped by these swamp staters to stand up in arms for them?

if they take Trump out the jig is up.. zero faith by the masses with states pulling apart from each other

but guess what, the neocons will let America get invaded on purpose before giving up the host body fucking parasites

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