Surprise! Sharp Racial Divide Found Over Robert E. Lee Statue

News headlines in the United States have been dominated by the fallout from the Charlottesville protests throughout the last week. YouGov have polled Americans to gauge their thoughts on a whole range of issues surrounding the violence.

Notably, respondents were asked about the decision that led to the protests in the first place - the decision to remove the statue of Confederate General Robert E. Lee.

In perhaps the least surprising finding of the week - and most clear-cut - Statista's Niall McCarthy points out that the research uncovered sharp racial and partisan divides over the decision.

Infographic: Sharp Racial Divide Over Robert E. Lee Statue | Statista

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As can be seen from the infographic above, only 4 percent of blacks strongly disapprove of the decision to remove the statue compared to 40 percent of whites.


flyonmywall Sun, 08/20/2017 - 20:34 Permalink

And so, the divide and conquering of the ignorant masses continues, while the economy continues to falter.Better get your shit together. It's comin'!

Billy the Poet shovelhead Sun, 08/20/2017 - 20:53 Permalink

Black Confederate flag supporter dies in crash after ‘angry’ exchangeBy Associated PressJuly 20, 2015JACKSON, Miss. — A black Mississippi man who often dressed in Confederate regalia to support the state flag has died in a one-car accident.The Highway Patrol says 49-year-old Anthony Hervey was killed Sunday when the 2005 Ford Explorer he was driving left the roadway and overturned on Mississippi Highway 6 in Lafayette County.A passenger in Hervey’s car, Arlene Barnum, tells The Associated Press that Hervey swerved and crashed after another vehicle carrying four or five young black men pulled up alongside them, yelling and looking angry. Barnum said Hervey yelled something back at the other vehicle before losing control and crashing.“It spun like crazy and we flipped, flipped, flipped. It was awful,” she said.She said she gave that account to a Mississippi state trooper when she was taken to a hospital after the accident.Barnum said she and Hervey had been returning home Sunday from Birmingham, Alabama, where they attended a Saturday rally to save the Linn Park Confederate Monument. City leaders there recently voted to remove the memorial from the park.Barnum said they were in her SUV, which was not displaying any Confederate flags or stickers.She said she had no idea whether they had been followed from Birmingham.Hervey, of Oxford, has drawn attention over the years for opposing efforts to change the flag. He said he dressed in Rebel soldier garb to honor blacks who served with the Confederacy during the Civil War. He was often seen often wearing the Confederate uniform and waving a Rebel flag on the Oxford square.In an interview with the Associated Press in 2001 after a new state flag design was defeated, Hervey said Mississippians’ support of the flag with a Confederate battle emblem in the corner is akin to “standing up for home.”“This is not racism. This is my heritage,” Hervey said.…

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Son of Loki Occident Mortal Sun, 08/20/2017 - 21:18 Permalink

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nmewn Billy the Poet Sun, 08/20/2017 - 21:24 Permalink

And there you have it.People purposely made ignorant and violent by a northern press & academia of their own heritage. They simply can't fathom that blacks were fighting for their southern homes too. Tell them that blacks were in N. B. Forrest's own personal escort and army they'd probably lose their minds or whats whats left of it for any of them could have killed him while he slept or in the field.Tell them that blacks stripped the bodies of the dead & dying 54th Massachusetts at Olustee and they'd likely become frothing mental patients in a lunatic asylum (which is rightfully where they belong)."I'm not dead yet!" - wounded soldier of the 54th Mass."Well I'll deaden you." - black Lake City Fla resident.He viewed him as a damned yankee, not black or white. A yankee invader. And he killed him. Right there. DRT.

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Antifaschistische Billy the Poet Sun, 08/20/2017 - 22:15 Permalink

I even went through all my public education in California.   We learned about key historical Christopher Columbus.   Our takeaway was always that...if it weren't for him, I probably would not be exactly where I am today....very possibly, not even born.   Because as a human, we all have this instictive psychological curiousity about 'where we came from' and 'why are we here'.    it never, ever, ever had anything to do with whether or not a slave loaded CC's vessel.   This whole 'destroy' our moments is completely retarded. 

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Mr 9x19 Beam Me Up Scotty Mon, 08/21/2017 - 03:51 Permalink

ignorance was 1st blessed, now it is a is a best exemple on earth :40% pro keep, whites40% black no opinion33% pro removal, blacks. set 100, or 80% total black know who he was.the 40% no opinion will turn ln pro removal, and you would have bigger problem of the event since more would feel concerned.that is actually a luck to have them so idiot and uneducated.

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Amendment X Mr 9x19 Mon, 08/21/2017 - 08:31 Permalink

Blacks make up about 14% of the population. About half of them want Confederate statues eradicated. That's all we need to know! 7% of the populus wants them torn down, so we must do it. Same with homosexual marriage, transgender BS, etc.  I don't agree with "40% no opinion will turn into pro-removal"  That 40% is your average working black who is smart enough to know they don't want to be part of a minority ginning up anger among a large majority of whites. They know frustrationn/anger has been bubbling up for decades and in the interest of self-preservation, they'll just shut up and try to live peacefully.   

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Billy the Poet nmewn Sun, 08/20/2017 - 21:10 Permalink

That's true but he actually freed them a day before the Emancipation Proclamation if I recall correctly. Just a twist of fate, I assume, without any inside knowledge on Lee's part. He had inherited the slaves from his father-in-law whose will had ordered that they be freed earlier but Lee had dragged his feet and waited for some reason, probably financial. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.But check this one out: One Sunday at St. Paul's Episcopal Church in Richmond, a well-dressed, lone black man, whom no one in the community—white or black—had ever seen before, had attended the service, sitting unnoticed in the last pew.Just before communion was to be distributed, he rose and proudly walked down the center aisle through the middle of the church where all could see him and approached the communion rail, where he knelt. The priest and the congregation were completely aghast and in total shock.No one knew what to do…except General Lee. He went to the communion rail and knelt beside the black man and they received communion together—and then a steady flow of other church members followed the example he had set. 

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lurker since 2012 Billy the Poet Sun, 08/20/2017 - 21:42 Permalink

Just imagine.........Pres Trump could have prefixed his comment on Charlotville with some information like you posted about Gen Lee. When the questions come flying which he would have know were coming regarding the death, if he again prefixed that History is to be learned not pulled down, history MUST always be interpreted within it's social context prevailing at that time. Then he should have denounced ANITA and white supremacist (in that order). Then let the chips fall

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nmewn Billy the Poet Sun, 08/20/2017 - 21:46 Permalink

Lee was indeed the Executor of the Custis estate (his wife and her siblings) with all that entails, trying to fulfill a dead mans last will & testament (his wishes) tied up in probate court as it moves through its process. But it was done by Lee's hand, on all slaves within his power to free before Lincoln's "Clintonian" vacillation of a proclamation which freed exactly none which were in Lincoln's power to free because his armies were in those territores where he could have.For your review...Dec 29 1862...just over half way down on the page...…

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nmewn Billy the Poet Sun, 08/20/2017 - 22:41 Permalink

Yeah, thats why people need to be pissed. What they don't know can indeed hurt them just as much as what they think they know.Zephaniah Kingsley is another classic example of supplanting past norms into modern society.Here was a man who was indeed a slave trader, who bought (in Spanish Cuba) a woman from what is now Senegal and married her. No doubt he recognized her past regal bearing but that is beside the point. They were man & wife and she was in charge of "their property" when he was away. Its just the way it was, as foreign to a snowflake mind as all of them moving away to another country when "law & sovereigns" changed but I doubt if a statue were erected to her it would be torn down.Cuz ya know, female & black ;-)

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Amendment X boattrash Mon, 08/21/2017 - 08:59 Permalink

Up-voting all you historical minded folks. Changing this Republic starts with education. All ZH'ers need to devote time to re-learning history and convincing others that they have been mis-educated. Lesson 1 might as well be the true causes of the War of Northern Aggression, and it was not a northern army invading to free the slaves.Lincoln should rightfully go down as one of the worst presidents of this country. By some estimates, 800k+ including civilians died in that horrific war. Slavery, like most human labor, was on the verge of being slowly eradicated due to mechanization and the evolving mind-set of the Southern People toward slavery. Former slaves lived a pretty miserable existance after the war and no, the northerners didn't want them re-located to their back yard. Next lesson: War crimes committed by Lincoln's generals. 

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OverTheHedge nmewn Mon, 08/21/2017 - 01:59 Permalink

I wonder what the slaves thought about their impending freedom: they had been fed, clothes and houses for their entire lives, and probably for a generation or two before that, and then they were to be thrown out into the world, free to starve, free to die, free to survive only if they were good enough. Seems a bit of a double edged sword.I do know that it only took three years after the war to get cotton production back up to pre war levels, using share-croppers rather than slaves. I imagine a lot of those share-croppers were ex-slaves: I wonder if they preferred their new lives? Reconstruction-era United States, sharecropping was one of few options for penniless freedmen to conduct subsistence farming and support themselves and their families. Other solutions included the crop-lien system (where the farmer was extended credit for seed and other supplies by the merchant), a rent labor system (where the former slave rents their land but keeps their entire crop), and the wage system (worker earns a fixed wage, but keeps none of their crop). Sharecropping was by far the most economically efficient, as it provided incentives for workers to produce a bigger harvest. It was a stage beyond simple hired labor, because the sharecropper had an annual contract. During Reconstruction, the federal Freedmen's Bureau ordered the arrangements[24] and wrote and enforced the contracts.

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boattrash nmewn Sun, 08/20/2017 - 22:06 Permalink

Yes, Lee freed the slaves he inherited. A link to  Pastor Weaver's "The Truth About the Confederate Battle Flag" which I've posted a couple of times is below. It's old, it's long, but it tells the history not taught in schools.… can be found on youtube as well, (under the same title) but I like people to see the SCV site, and scroll to the bottom to see what non-profit service is...

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MsCreant Sun, 08/20/2017 - 20:39 Permalink

If you add the no opinions in on the black opinion...40 + 4 + 7 =51% of blacks would leave the issue alone.They are divided on the issue.