Paul Craig Roberts: "There Is A Conspiracy... And It's Against The American People"

Authored by Paul Craig Roberts,

In the United States “conspiracy theory” is the name given to explanations that differ from those that serve the ruling oligarchy, the establishment or whatever we want to call those who set and control the agendas and the explanations that support the agendas.

The explanations imposed on us by the ruling class are themselves conspiracy theories. Moreover, they are conspiracy theories designed to hide the real conspiracy that our rulers are operating.

For example, the official explanation of 9/11 is a conspiracy theory. Some Muslims, mainly Saudi Arabians, delivered the greatest humiliation to a superpower since David slew Goliath. They outsmarted all 17 US intelligence agencies and those of NATO and Israel, the National Security Council, the Transportation Safety Administration, Air Traffic Control, and Dick Cheney, hijacked four US airliners on one morning, brought down three World Trade Center skyscrapers, destroyed that part of the Pentagon where research was underway into the missing $2.3 trillion, and caused the morons in Washington to blame Afghanistan instead of Saudi Arabia.

Clearly, the Saudia Arabians who humiliated Ameria were involved in a conspiracy to do so.

Is it a believable conspiracy?

The ability of a few young Muslim men to pull off such a feat is unbelievable. Such total failure of the US National Security State means that America was blindly vulnerable throughout the decades of Cold War with the Soviet Union. If such total failure of the National Security State had really occurred, the White House and Congress would have been screaming for an investigation. People would have been held accountable for the long chain of security failures that allowed the plot to succeed. Instead, no one was even reprimanded, and the White House resisted all efforts for an investigation for a year. Finally, to shut up the 9/11 families, a 9/11 Commission was convened. The commission duly wrote down the government’s story and that was the “investigation.”

Moreover, there is no evidence to support the official conspiracy theory of 9/11. Indeed, all known evidence contradicts the official conspiracy theory.

For example, it is a proven fact that Building 7 came down at freefall acceleration, which means it was wired for demolition. Why was it wired for demolition? There is no official answer to this question.

It is the known evidence provided by scientists, architects, engineers, pilots, and the first responders who were in the twin towers and personally experienced the numerous explosions that brought down the towers that is described as a conspiracy theory.

The CIA introduced the term “conspiracy theory” into public discourse as part of its action plan to discredit skeptics of the Warren Commission report on the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. Any explanation other than the one handed down, which is contradicted by all known evidence, was debunked as a conspiracy theory.

Conspiracy theories are the backbone of US foreign policy. For example, the George W. Bush regime was active in a conspiracy against Iraq and Saddam Hussein. The Bush regime created fake evidence of Iraqi “weapons of mass destruction,” sold the false story to a gullible world and used it to destroy Iraq and murder its leader. Similarly, Gaddafi was a victim of an Obama/Hillary conspiracy to destroy Libya and murder Gaddafi. Assad of Syria and Iran were slated for the same treatment until the Russians intervened.

Currently, Washington is engaged in conspiracies against Russia, China, and Venezuela. Proclaiming a non-existent “Iranian threat,” Washington put US missiles on Russia’s border and used the “North Korean threat” to put missiles on China’s border. The democratically elected leader of Venezuela is said by Washington to be a dictator, and sanctions have been put on Venezuela to help the small Spanish elite through whom Washington has traditionally ruled South American countries pull off a coup and reestablish US control over Venezuela.

Everyone is a threat: Venezuela, Yemen, Syria, Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, tribes in Pakistan, Libya, Russia, China, North Korea, but never Washington.

The greatest conspiracy theory of our time is that Americans are surrounded by foreign threats. We are not even safe from Venezuela.

The New York Times, the Washington Post, CNN, NPR, and the rest of the presstitutes are quick to debunk as conspiracy theories all explanations that differ from the explanations of the ruling interests that the presstitutes serve.

Yet, as I write and for some nine months to date, the presstitute media has itself been promoting the conspiracy theory that Donald Trump was involved in a conspiracy with the president of Russia and Russian intelligence services to hack the US presidential election and place Trump, a Russian agent, in the White House.

This conspiracy theory has no evidence whatsoever. It doesn’t need evidence, because it serves the interests of the military/security complex, the Democratic Party, the neoconservatives, and permits the presstitutes to show lavish devotion to their masters. By endless repetition a lie becomes truth.

There is a conspiracy, and it is against the American people. Their jobs have been offshored in order to enrich the already rich. They have been forced into debt in a futile effort to maintain their living standards. Their effort to stem their decline by electing a president who spoke for them is being subverted before their eyes by an utterly corrupt media and ruling class.

Sooner or later it will dawn on them that there is nothing they can do but violently revolt. Most likely, by the time they reach this conclusion it will be too late. Americans are very slow to escape from the false reality in which they live. Americans are a thoroughly brainwashed people who hold tightly to their false life within The Matrix.

For the gullible and naive who have been brainwashed into believing that any explanation that differs from the officially-blessed one is a conspiracy theory, there are available online long lists of government conspiracies that succeeded in deceiving the people in order that the governments could achieve agendas that the people would have rejected.

If liberty continues to exist on earth, it will not be in the Western world. It will be in Russia and China, countries that emerged out of the opposite and know the value of liberty, and it will be in those South American countries, such as Venezuela, Ecuador, and Bolivia that fight for their sovereignty against American oppression.

Indeed, as historians unconcerned with their careers are beginning to write, the primary lesson in history is that governments deceive their peoples.

Everywhere in the Western world, government is a conspiracy against the people.


Billy the Poet Paul Kersey Sun, 08/27/2017 - 10:11 Permalink

PCR sometimes sees things that aren't there. Take a look at the picture which he claimed showed police killing Michael Brown:…, Mo. is a small overwhelmingly black town whose government and police are white. The Ferguson police murdered an 18 year old black kid who has his hands over his head. Moreover, it is unclear that the kid had committed any offense. If you take a look at the photo of the three goon thugs pointing military rifles in his face at point blank range, any one of the over-sized goons unarmed could have restrained the small kid. So what did the police goons do? They shot him to death.…

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The Transpirator DWD-MOVIE (not verified) Sun, 08/27/2017 - 12:00 Permalink

I'm wondering why, if you do indeed make over 7k a month working part-time, you would spend all your time telling others about your success, and how they too can emulate your success. Unless of course you make your money by posting this crap on websites like Zerohedge in the hope that some are stupid enough to believe a word you say. Trust me when I say that you are about as welcome as a fart in a spacesuit here.Have a nice day, and help yourself to some more cabbage.

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TheReplacement J S Bach Sun, 08/27/2017 - 12:19 Permalink

I think you are a bit incorrect here, "it's the jews who CONTROL the governments that deceive the people."  The man behind the curtain is not the deceiver.  He is hidden from view but deals plainly enough in his smoke filled room.  It is his puppets who go forth to do the deceiving for him in order that his existence is not revealed to the deceived. 

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barliman creeko Sun, 08/27/2017 - 00:35 Permalink

 Lovely - the Building 7 freefall crap once more.  Buying into that shit isn't a conspiracy theory - it's an Idiocy Theory.Let's take this in small bites.1) Everything that falls on the Earth is in freefall. It's this little thing called gravity.2) 99.999999% of you have never run experiments in a Structural Materials Testing Lab. Boring places unless you're breaking things or causing them to fail. If you take structural steel without fireproofing and put it in a fire - it fails in about 30 minutes and it doesn't fail by bending, it fails by collapsing under the total load at the speed of gravity - freefall.3. Pay close attention! If you are a mob controlled set of unions buiding the World Trade Center in New York City there are MILLION$ to be skimmed by putting fake fireproofing on the structural steel and bribing the testing labs to certify it meets spec. Best of all, since there has NEVER been a mojor fire in major skyscraper in the history of NYC, you can sleep well at night becuase you're confident NO ONE will ever know the fireproofing was just a cosmetic look-a-like.4. Come 9/11/01 all bets are off - two planes filled with hundreds of tons of jet fuel are crashed into the upper floors of the two buildings. I went to school with Saudis back in the day. They came in two varieties. Those who didn't give a shit and were never going to be engineers (rich kids) and fucking brilliant (middle class guys who put the Asians to shame) who were able to visualize and model the most complex problems in the field. The Blind Sheik's shit of vans full of explosives in underground garages in the 90's was amateur hour. The second try was a realtively straight forward engineering solution.5. Back into the Structural Materials Testing Lab! If you want to bring down the two largest open space frames ever built in a controlled demolition you are going to need many tons of high explosive. You could work it out on supercomputers and given a couple of years of highly intrusive and conspicuous charge placement & wiring you'd be ready to punch the button.  Just one problem - these charges aren't going to be little puffs - they are going to be massive motherfuckers and ridiculously obvious to the people outside. Here's simple question for those who think they see flaws in the above to focus you on why planes are the simplest approach:What's the most damage even a jihadi maroon can do with a 777?    

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Clock Crasher barliman Sun, 08/27/2017 - 00:52 Permalink

Imagine a 20 story building suspended 80 stories in the air with nothing but air between it and the ground. Now Imagine a 20 storey building suspended 80 stories in the air with an 80 storey sky scraper between it and the ground. You release both 20 storey buildings at the same time. Which one hits the ground first?

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Dormouse Clock Crasher Sun, 08/27/2017 - 01:46 Permalink

That one's paid, you'll never convince him unless you pay more and threaten his family with worse. It takes a certain kind of stupid to believe the New Physics backed by government "experts". Maybe they don't teach that in school anymore. Senior year in high school, honors physics, our challenge was to test these steel ball launchers then set them at an angle and predict where the ball would land by placing a red mark on carbon paper in a litter box tray on the floor. Mine was dead center within a centimeter because I understood the math and the process—generally physics in general. Building 7 was brought down with pre-planted explosives. It doesn't happen that perfectly without. The next logical conclusion is to examine the other buildings' collapse. Some stupid bitches in the class never even hit the shitty litter box. But that was 20 years ago; physics is probably about how people interact based on their victimhood now.

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pods Lore Sun, 08/27/2017 - 07:29 Permalink

There is no way things went down like they say they did. WTC 7 is proof. We don't have to solve the mystery, we only have to show how the official story is bunk. As for PCR not calling out the Mossad, how can he? He has to back up any assertions with evidence. There is little directly tying them to it. The dancing Israelis and the art students is some, but that probably isn't enough for him. He does not have to solve the mystery though, just show the official is bunk. And if the Mossad gets outed as the general contractor for this little event, there still is the question of who hired them. I think PCR goes farther than most with 911. Let's not throw away the 90% that we have for the 10% that we don't have. If the 90 is accepted, the other 10 will come out anyways.pods

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J S Bach pods Sun, 08/27/2017 - 09:38 Permalink

Mossad is the bloody hand of the Rothschilds and thus, Israel.  Nobody "hires" them... THEY are the string pullers.  There were the 5 dancing Mossad Israelis and the fact that Mossad was "tracking" the alleged hijackers for months before the event in Florida.  There is also Michael Chertoff, dual-Israeli citizen whose parents were founding members of that satanic cabal.  And he's the one who let the dancers and 200 spying "art students" quietly return to the unholy land without a whisper.  The late Victor Thorn's book, "9/11 - Made In Israel" is chock full of the players and their motivations during that infamous day.  Many are not only jews, but dual-citizens of Israel.

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Radical Marijuana J S Bach Sun, 08/27/2017 - 22:29 Permalink

After I started doing research into 9/11I gradually came to similar conclusions. I thought that the article above from PCR was quite good. He has previously stated many times that the Isreal lobby is one of the major factors able to influence the political puppets in Washington D.C., who are necessarily successful because they followed their money that made their careers. Indeed, given the vicious spirals of the funding of the political processes, anyone who does not follow the money to its source is a political idiot, while anyone who does follow the money to its source, and then publicly says so, will NOT have any reasonable chance to make and maintain themselves as a successful politician.

"There is a conspiracy, and it is against the American people.  Sooner or later it will dawn on them that there is nothing they can do but violently revolt. Most likely, by the time they reach this conclusion it will be too late ..."

In my opinion, it is WAY TOO LATE, at least more than Century TOO LATE.As the "news" continues to follow the overall death spiral of Globalized Neolithic Civilization becoming about exponentially more fraudulent, Zero Hedge content reflects those facts, including the concomitant rise of fake "news" as the dominate kind of publicly promoted "news." Similarly, as someone who has been reading Zero Hedge for a few years before I began posting comments for several years, I am getting the impression that there are more goofy trolls posting now than previously­. Deep Trolls were those who have more and more been able to INVERT, and thusly pervert, the meaning of almost every significant word in the English language. Most importantly, the meaning of the word "money" was reversed from metals that have intrinsic values, which were relatively objective, to become fiat made out of nothing as debts, whose value is as subjective as the magical mathematics which enables legalized bookkeeping tricks to do that. Due to the increaing degree to which "money" controlled  people's lives, while the meaning of "money" became more and more absurdly backwards, hence, people's lives were controlled  whereby they necessarily behaved in ways which were similarly backward absurdities, due to having to adapt to living inside sociopolitical systems based upon public governments enforcing frauds by private banks, and the big corporations that grew up around those big banks. In my opinion, it is NOT possible to have any relatively rational public debates regarding significant issues, due to there no longer being any coherent correspondences between the dictionary definitions of political theory terms compared to the actual social facts. THERE IS ONLY "ONE" POLITICAL SYSTEM, WHICH IS NECESSARILY ORGANIZED "CRIME," WHEREIN THE BEST ORGANIZED "CRIMINALS" CAPTURE CONTROL OVER THE GOVERNMENTS.  Since the USA became the leading edge of Globalized Neolithic Civilization, Americans are becoming the leading edge of the psychotic breakdowns of that Civilization based on enforced frauds, which have become about exponentially more fraudulent, due to about exponentially advancing technologies, such as enabling the harnessing of electric and atomic energy through the prodigious progress in physical sciences, such as quantum mechanics, and the special theory of relativity, etc. ... In that context, it is barely possible to exaggerate the degree to which almost everyone takes for granted perceiving almost everything in absurdly backward ways, due to thinking about time, space, and therefore entropy, in totally INVERTED ways, which are set of consistent contradictions which assist with making and maintaining "money" which has become INVERTED, due to having become almost totally based on public governments enforcing frauds by private banks, while about exponentially advancing physical technologies have enabled those to become about exponentially more fraudulent.Ron Paul is certainly correct that:

"As the empire of big government and fiat currency collapses, more people will be attracted to authoritarianism, leading to an increase in violence."

Bogus "solutions" are still deeply stuck in the rut of expecting some series of political miracles, that a Civilization, which better and better understood physical energy systems, could continue to deliberately NOT better understand human beings inside that Civilization, as manifestations of those general energy systems. The accumulating effects of prodigious progress in physical sciences has been to enable the development of technologies which have accumulated to become trillions of times more capable and powerful than ever before in human history. However, at the same time, political science has NOT advanced, but rather, has tended to deteriorate at an almost exponentially accelerating rate, as the meaning of "money," and every other political term, has been perversely INVERTED. It is theoretically necessary to attempt to correct the much DEEPER ERRORS regarding the perception of time, space and entropy, in order to attempt to better reconcile the concept of "freedom" with the laws of nature.MAD Money As Debt, backed by MAD Mutual Assured Destruction. Cyber-Attacks Are The New Cold War "The warfare ideology today is ‘Multilateral Unconstrained Disruption’ (MUD). ... This unrestrictive warfare is meant to disrupt societal functioning; to ‘poison’ information to elevate distrust of all computer information." Obviously, the established systems of MADNESS have NOT actually gone away. The political economy is still based on the enforced frauds of the MAD monetary system, which are still backed up by the MAD military system, HOWEVER, we are now watching more and more MUD thrown around on top of that MADNESS. Backing up lies with violence with technologies trillions of times more powerful and capable is the manifestation of the oxymoronic "scientific dictatorship," which is actually as profoundly unscientific about itself as it can possibly be. The same problem now applies to another classic oxymoron, "military intelligence." Thousands of years of the history of warfare whose successes were based on deceits and treacheries have driven those kinds of successes to become runaway criminal insanities, which automatically become more psychotic the more socially successful those systems of being able to back up lies with violence become. Generation after generation, the social successfulness of operating systems of organized lies and robberies, becoming more sophisticated systems of enforced frauds, have driven too many of the people doing that to be such extreme manifestations of professional liars and immaculate hypocrites, that they tend to believe in their own bullshit. As far as I can tell from their public performances, most of the American Military and militarized police are professional hypocrites. While that used to work well enough in the past for them, that is no longer such a socially successful strategy, but rather has become increasingly morbid psychological and political habit. That is the overall context in which there have developed monetary systems based on electronic frauds, whose enforcement includes every possible weapon of mass destruction that could be developed due to progress in physical sciences, being applied to become better at backing up lies with violence, which now includes the new doctrine of MUD piled deeper and splashed around over all of the previously existing MADNESS. Indeed, at the present time, political "progress" amounts to spraying MUD on top of MADNESS. I can not imagine any way that covering MADNESS with MUD could ultimately work. There must necessarily be some monetary systems backed by some murder systems. However, those should be radically transformed by developing political science which is made more consistent with the progress based on profound paradigm shifts in physical sciences. Of course, I do NOT expect that to actually happen, since the real world is not almost totally dominated by MAD privatized monetary system, backed up by MAD military systems, whose degree of privatization is catching up to the previous privatization of the monetary system. In general, there is no private property outside of some system of public violence. At the present time, doing that is increasingly psychotic, with no end in sight of the degree to which the debt insanities are going to provoke death insanities. Ironically, one way to regard the American Military and militarized police is that they have become too good at their job, for too long. The oldest book on The Art of War started by saying that "success in war is based on deceits," and ended by saying that "spies are the most important soldiers." Hence, the history of warfare was based on backing up deceits with destruction, which then became the foundation for a political economy based upon enforcing frauds. In that context, the American Military and the militarized police are providing the destruction to back up deceits, which serves those who keep the established systems of enforced frauds going, and growing, despite those trends getting worse, faster, at about an exponential rate, due to the basic issue that backing up lies with violence, no matter how successfully that is done, still never stops those lies from being false. Therefore, more and more every day, the American Military and militarized police are being given insane orders, where the more that they follow those orders, the worse the problems they face become. It is a general observation that revolutions do not tend to succeed unless some significant portion of those who supposed to suppress them decide to join that revolution instead. I would hold on to that apparently irrational hope with respect to the American Military and militarized police. There is nobody else who should go through radical transformations of the ways that they understand death controls more than them. They are the ones who most need to change the ways that they think about the murder systems that back up the monetary systems. Of course, while I regard that as mostly being an irrational hope at the present time, one can still have solace in the transcendental hopes that human beings and civilizations operate as general energy systems, through which the principle of the conservation of energy manifests. Theoretically, the kinds of progress achieved through profound paradigm shifts in physical science could also be achieved in political science. Indeed, from a sublime point of view, that is imperative, since the technologies like electronics and atomic energy already exist ... Generally speaking, the American Military and militarized police have become de facto members of the transnational scientific community, in sense that, in order to do their job, they have to become some range of scientists, engineers and technicians, that are able to understand the science and technologies that enable the weapons systems that they have to be functionally operated. In that context, in does not appear too totally impossible that some of them might be able to go through the kinds of intellectual scientific revolutions which would be necessary for them to cope with the weapons that they have access to becoming trillions of times more powerful and capable than ever before in human history. As the sociopolitical situation inside the USA tends to deteriorate, those who are most in the front lines of coping with that are those whose most need to re-think what they are actually doing! More than anybody else, ideally, the American Military and militarized police should breakthrough to understanding the nature of the dilemmas that they face regarding how to be the best at backing up lies with violence, after progress in physical science has already broken through to the development of technologies which are trillions of times more powerful and capable, and are headed towards becoming quadrillions of times, IF a technologically based civilization could survive the contradictions regarding it doing that! In general, we ALREADY DO live in a technological civilization, and therefore, theoretically, nothing is more important to a technological civilization than its philosophy of science. Therefore, especially with regard to the American Military and militarized police, they should go through intellectual scientific revolutions, which then would apply to the combined money/murder systems, or the ways that they are supposed to back up the debt controls with death controls, which is especially imperative because the established debt slavery systems, based on governments enforcing the frauds of privately controlled banks, are automatically becoming worse runaway debt insanities every day, which therefore, are automatically trending towards driving worse death insanities to develop. At the present time, too much of the American Military and militarized police do not seem to fully comprehend the paradoxical ways that they have been attempting to back up deceits with destruction, or enforce frauds, in ways which are more and more obviously backfiring badly, since no amount of violence used to back up lies ever can actually stop those lies from still being false. I REPEAT, the American Military and militarized police are, more than anybody else, suffering from the paradox of final failure from too much success. They have been doing their jobs of enforcing frauds, backing up deceits with destruction, or manifesting the legalized violence to uphold legalized lies, too much, for too long ... Being ordered to impose martial law on Americans will become worsening series of severe social storms and psychotic breakdowns, because no amount of violence is ever able to stop lies from being false. The paradoxical problems will only get worse, faster, at an exponential rate, the more that the American Military and militarized police attempted to impose martial law. There seems to me to be no doubt that the established systems of MADNESS are planning upon becoming even MADDER, while they are also adding their new tactics of throwing around more and more MUD on top of that mess. However, I can not imagine any way that doing that could ever work. Rather, there could be nothing less than an intellectual scientific revolution, in order to guide a Second American Revolution, and Second American Civil War, that might be sufficient. Furthermore, the same ideas also apply everywhere else on the planet, to every social pyramid system. Everywhere, social pyramid systems are based on their history of successfully being able to back up lies with violence, and everywhere those are facing the problems presented by progress in physical science and technologies not being surpassed by progress in political science. America led the world in doing that ... In my opinion, the only, albeit apparently irrational, hope for the future of America, as well as the rest of the world, is for political science to go through enough of a series of intellectual scientific revolutions, which would then apply to the ways that the combined money/murder systems were perceived and operated. OF COURSE, I do NOT expect that to happen,especially since most people want to continueto deliberately ignore everything I wrote above. Take a look at history: When the trends towards fascism go berserk, the first people 'they' kill are the intellectuals. So far, anything that anyone writes about that is merely a diagnosis or prognosis, without any possible treatment that is any remedy that cures the problems. It will not make any significant difference to anything to present any better edited arguments. The established systems are well-developed to be able to continue to deliberately ignore any rational evidence or logical arguments that they do not like. Reading Zero Hedge is like enjoying a front row seat to watch as things get worse, faster ...

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nmewn HockeyFool Sun, 08/27/2017 - 08:08 Permalink truth, it was hit by debris from one of the towers opening a multi-story gash in the building.If anyone wants to go back and look, some of WTC7's street facing floors were made into what can only be described as balconies by the collapse of WTC1. You can see what I'm saying at 1:27...and 2:23 thru 2:32...and notice the debris field in the foreground extending a half block past the impacted side of WTC7 at 2:28... like that extended out in a radius from the collapsing tower and hit the WT7 side facing the tower or it wouldn't be in the street foreground here.People have expended a lot of time & energy in their various theories and no minds will be changed now by me. But it was what it was and all the theories in the world don't change facts.

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Clock Crasher nmewn Sun, 08/27/2017 - 08:27 Permalink

I was working at ground zero during weeks one and two of the aftermath.  I can say that there was no pile of debris.  There was nothing but a chasm, a very deep dark pit extending far below street level all the way down to bed rock with relatively small amounts of building material inside that chasm.  The entire building was thrown outward from all angles.  There were no pieces of concrete just dust.

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Clock Crasher nmewn Sun, 08/27/2017 - 09:31 Permalink

All I am saying is that where you would expect to see one-hundred stories worth of I beams and office building floors in a big big pile on the street level was not observed.Where there should have been a rubble pile many stories tall itself was not observed.What was observed was a very deep pit viewed by standing at street level.  You could walk through the open plaza which was intact (and lacked debris, as to not impeed a person to walk from the street and side walk) to where the lobby once was and get no further because one more step would cause a slip and fall far enough down to cause inury or death.

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nmewn Clock Crasher Sun, 08/27/2017 - 09:53 Permalink

Well, its pretty observable here on the ground beginning at 30 seconds in so, I'm unsure of your time line, in other words, when you arrived... would suspect the first thing they would do is scoop it up out of the surrounding streets leading to where you were going.But again, any vids taken at the time show huge chunks of the WTC1 structure within "the cloud" dropping down and outward onto anything below and to the sides. 

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Clock Crasher nmewn Sun, 08/27/2017 - 11:34 Permalink

EDIT:I got your comments mixed up.  You were talking about WTC7.  I was describing WTC1&2. Note: I can see at 1:13 in that video you linked it does look like the WTC7 tower side facing was suffering fires from top to bottom.WTC7 from what I could see (Sep12) was a massive pile of mostly intact building.  She did favor one side coming down and the ruble pile did look like the building came to rest on its side. She was accordian'd and stacked up on herself.  The ruble pile was extending high above the street whereas the towers were far below the street and scattered laterally everywhere as your comment suggests.

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nmewn Bay of Pigs Sun, 08/27/2017 - 12:34 Permalink

Well I appreciate the recognition of my cognitive abilities but on a larger more curious note, apparently no one is entitled to have their own opinion around here anymore (barliman or me) and having my own opinion does not mean that I endorse what the government put out as its "official narrative on 911". I never said that so I would appreciate not having the insinuation standing out there that I did.Anyone with eyes and even a rudimentary grasp of structural engineering can see what happened to WTC7.A: It was structurally damaged on the side facing WTC1. B: That undermined the bearing weight of the lower floors supporting the higher floors. C: Until the upper floors supporting the roof gives way, the entire building sags, the center-left buckles (angle of view) due to the lack of interior support and it gives way.Watch it at 1:35 is why I rarely comment on this crap anymore, people see what they want to see and I don't care if they see things that aren't really there. 

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Kayman nmewn Sun, 08/27/2017 - 10:57 Permalink

nmewnWT7 aside, Israel and Saudi Arabia would have been happy indeed to see Saddam in the crosshairs of the U.S.   Only insiders in Washington could have filled in the blanks that the Twin Towers were a direct result of Saddam. So the Bush Administration, coddled, abetted and instructed by the Deep State would have no problem inventing the necessary props to topple the enemy of Saudi Arabia and Israel. Hell, even Iran would have given Dubya/Cheny help on that score.

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TheReplacement nmewn Sun, 08/27/2017 - 12:31 Permalink

Sorry newmen but when I chop out a wedge from a tree the tree will topple over in that direction, assuming all else is equal.  A building like that with a wedge like that should have toppled over IF the wedge were the actual cause of the collapse.  That building clearly imploded in on itself and came straight down with the collapse happening simultaneously on multiple floors ABOVE the wedge floors as well as through them.It is what it is and the official story IS bullshit.

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nmewn TheReplacement Sun, 08/27/2017 - 12:52 Permalink

Start watching it at 3:53 and tell me what you see... see the top of it falling off TOWARD where it was impacted by WTC1, meaning the top is undermined.I chose this video BECAUSE I'm trying to see what you guys are seeing and I'm not seeing it, I'm seeing a building on fire for hours having been structurally damaged by the collapse of WTC1. But yeah..."pull it"...I get all that...which is always a possibility I suppose...I'm just having a hard time believing people dressed up as firefighters are running around inside a burning building unrecognized by other firefighters trying to plant explosives either, so call me crazy for that too I guess.Anyways, I'm out...I have stuff to do.

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desertboy barliman Sun, 08/27/2017 - 01:03 Permalink

I guess that makes me the 0.0000001%.  "Fire"  huh?  Your understanding of materials in general, and physical metallurgy in particular, appears quite superficial.  Crack a book and study some.  Or, try testing your heating theory with an I-beam under a load and a large kerosene torch.  Have fun.Oh..and, any competent materials failure test requires a specific materials failure mode.  Your phony expertise was missing that part.

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Kayman desertboy Sun, 08/27/2017 - 11:10 Permalink

I don't know what happened that caused Building 7 to collapse.  But rather than reading a book, why not take a cutting torch and find out at what temperature steel begins to deform. You don't need steel to be cut thru before it loses its strength.Although I don't believe the U.S. government had a direct hand in 9-11, I do believe there were hundreds of people that knew the Towers were a target (again) and that there were a handful of people that looked the other way, once specifics were known.

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Iskiab buyingsterling Sun, 08/27/2017 - 02:17 Permalink

Not only that but firefighters were working their way up the building when it collapsed, there was no fire on the bottoms 6 levels.

History usually takes some time for the truth to come out. For example it's been proven that the CIA fabricated that American boat story that the Vietnamese 'sunk' for a pretext to invade Vietnam. Knowing that now, why wasn't the entire agency disbanded on the spot after it came out? Instead, the same people involved then ran the agency.

It's not a stretch to think 911 could be an inside job, just look at what we know from the internal workings of the agencies and government, then look at what they got away with in the past, why couldn't it happen again on a grander scale. As the article said, you can usually tell what's going on by someone's actions, not words. How the investigation was handled and how the fear was redirected is telling.

Even Afghanistan, the invasion was because they were 'hiding' Bin Laden. We now know he was in Pakistan the entire time, so where did the certainty come from? The reality was they had no idea where he was.

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lew1024 barliman Sun, 08/27/2017 - 02:39 Permalink

Perhaps you should read the Jones et al paper in Europhysics News, 2016.  A peer-reviewed journal, which discusses this exact thing, plus the fact that Jones' other article, the physical chemistry analysis of the 9/11 dust, also a peer-reviewed paper and 3 other papers on the same topic, at least one peer-reviewed, showed that indeed explosives were used to bring down the towers.After you encompass the opinions of genuine phsicists, we will consider your opinions again. 

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