In An Increasingly Divided America, Everyone Agrees On One Thing: "Everyone Else Is Wrong"

A recent poll by the Wall Street Journal/NBC News confirmed what many Americans probably suspected: The US was a country rife with political, economic and cultural divisions long before President Trump rode down that escalator at Trump Tower in June 2015.

And while politics isn't the only factor driving the divide, as WSJ explains, it's probably the most obvious. People who identify with either party increasingly disagree not just on policy, but on fundamental social and economic values...

“The wide gulf is visible in an array of issues and attitudes: Democrats are twice as likely to say they never go to church as are Republicans, and they are eight times as likely to favor action on climate change. One-third of Republicans say they support the National Rifle Association, while just 4% of Democrats do. More than three-quarters of Democrats, but less than one-third of Republicans, said they felt comfortable with societal changes that have made the U.S. more diverse.”

For example, Americans' views on the economy and the country’s future are often correlated with their feelings about one man: President Donald Trump.

“Our political compass is totally dominating our economic and world views about the country,” said GOP pollster Bill McInturff, who conducted the survey with Democratic pollster Fred Yang. “Political polarization is not a new thing.

 

The level under Trump is the logical outcome of a generation-long trend.”

Some of the starkest attitudinal divides were between people with a four-year college degree, and those who had only a high school education.  

“Rural Americans and people without a four-year college degree are notably more pessimistic about the economy and more conservative on social issues. Those groups make up an increasingly large share of the GOP.”

According to WSJ, peoples’ views about the president’s job performance are much more polarized than they were a decade ago.

“Eight months into the 1950s presidency of Republican Dwight Eisenhower, 60% of Democrats approved of the job he was doing. That level of cross-party support for a new president remained above 40% until Bill Clinton, when only 20% of Republicans approved of his performance after eight months in 1993. For Barack Obama, Republican support dropped to 16% at this point in his presidency in 2009.”

That trend has only accelerated under Trump…

“His job-approval rating among Americans overall has remained in recent months at about 40%, but just 8% of Democrats approve of the job he is doing, the survey found. By contrast, 80% of Republicans approve.”

Notably, Republicans’ outlook for the future improved remarkably after Trump triumphed over Hillary Clinton in November’s election.

“Mr. Trump’s election has brought a sharp mood swing among Republicans. In August 2014, 88% of Republicans said they weren’t confident that life for their children’s generation would be better than their own, a gloomy view of a central element of the American dream. Eight months into the Trump presidency, just 46% of Republicans say they lack confidence in their children’s future - a 42-point swing that is more dramatic than improvements in the economy would seem to justify.”

The survey showed that gun control, immigration and globalization – some of the most divisive issues facing the American public – were all key issues of Trump’s campaign.  

Surprisingly, views about gun control were once less partisan. Asked if they were concerned that the government would go too far in restricting gun-ownership rights or, alternatively, that the government wouldn’t do enough,

Republicans in 1995 were about evenly split. Democrats were divided 26% to 67%. Now, 77% of Republicans say they worry the government could go too far, while 71% of Democrats worry the government won’t go far enough.

The public’s views on immigration have also become pretty lopsided:

“Views of immigration have also become more partisan. In an April 2005 poll that asked whether immigration strengthened or weakened the U.S., a plurality of 48% said it weakened the nation, with 41% saying immigration strengthened the country. Now, a substantial majority of 64% view immigration as strengthening the country, while 28% say it weakens the U.S. The change is due almost entirely to a sharp shift in Democrats’ views. In 2005, just 45% of Democrats said the country was strengthened by immigration; now the share is 81%.”

Rural Americans and those without a college degree have particularly pessimistic views on the economy.

“Some 43% of rural residents gave a high rating to their local economy’s health, compared with 57% of urban dwellers. Among people without a four-year college degree, only 47% viewed the economy in their area as good or excellent, compared with two-thirds of people with a degree.

 

Both groups have been moving from the Democratic Party to the GOP.”

To be sure, most Americans say they're aware of the growing polarization in the US: 80% of those surveyed saw the country as mainly or totally divided. However, in an ironic twist, they couldn’t agree on why. Democrats and independents tended to see the division as rooted in economics, while Republicans saw it as mainly a political divide.

To sum it up...

“It’s as if everyone agrees that it’s too divisive and we can’t get along, but also that everyone else is wrong,” said Mr. Yang.

Regardless of what’s driving it, one thing seems likely: It’ll likely get worse before it gets better.
 

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847328_3527 DbePrepared Sat, 09/09/2017 - 16:31 Permalink

Hillary lost the election.It's the politicians in DC who are divided. Americans united and voted for Trump---for real change.That's all ya need to know.Next stop; voite chicken shits like Graham, Collins, Maxine Waters, Schmucker, Piglosi, All Green, etc out of office so America can become great again.

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Future Jim The_Juggernaut Sat, 09/09/2017 - 16:43 Permalink

The Mainstream Is Crazy And Extreme At some level, everyone realizes that mainstream life is crazy and extreme because it is so artificial and hectic, and because it is so physically and psychologically unhealthy. Everyone also realizes, at some level, that mainstream life is crazy and extreme because everyone is being played. They know (at some level) that both parties and most so-called alternatives are all on the same side. They even know that the mainstream believes absurdities and commits atrocities, and yet, the mainstream is even crazier and more extreme than that, because at some level, everyone realizes that they are addicted to it, and that they are doing nothing to fix it and nothing to learn the scope of the problem—except to occasionally listen to the mainstream media and vote for mainstream politicians ...Everyone knows, at some level, that the mainstream is crazy and extreme and that any salvation may thus have to come from outside the mainstream (and the fake alternatives), and thus the craziest and most extreme aspect of the mainstream is that whenever anyone outside the mainstream tries to tell them anything that contradicts the mainstream narrative, they call that person crazy and extreme!Instead of embracing reality, individuals in the mainstream prefer to double down on the failed, flawed, fatal policies of the past ... rather than risk looking weird.To know that the mainstream is crazy and extreme and that any salvation may have to come from outside the mainstream, and to then fight tooth and nail to ensure that only the mainstream media, the mainstream experts, and the mainstream authorities are allowed to change the mainstream narrative ... well ... that's just batshit crazy.----------Please, provide an example of why you think the mainstream is, or is not, crazy or extreme. Thanks.

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Future Jim Mr 9x19 Sat, 09/09/2017 - 18:14 Permalink

Note that Mr 9x19 has just outed himself as an agent provocateur.To anyone who reads this, note that Mr 9x19 is NOT one of us. He is trying to shit all over everyone here by giving any future readers the impression that this site is populated with people like him, and that anyone else on here is thus discredited because we wouldn't be here if we didn't agree or weren't comfortable around such douchebags.Whether he realizes it or not, he is targeting this site because it is still possible to find reality here.Holy Shit! I see below that Mr 9x19 brought all of his friends today.

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Mr 9x19 Future Jim Sat, 09/09/2017 - 18:22 Permalink

i never been one of us, i hate people who say XXX but can't do 1/100 of what they can.you have weaponry, the 2nd amendment, you whine like fucking bitches, all you americans are fucking pussies, in europ, we have the same problem, every fucking whites lost  theirs balls, search for  " pas d'amalgame" , if you can handle a 2nd language... as 40% of your country can't set on map ukraine... lol... bunch of self centered fat fucks.those with guns are the 1st targeted while the system need a fucking reset, tell me agent provocateur when in my own mother fucking country we have more than 60% of NIGGERS and SANDNIGGERS. and everybody look down the sideway when walking, scared to be stabed. HAHAHA BANG ! HEAD SHOT, YOU DEAD NIGGA !you still think you can live with monkeys, fine, go to zoo, open cage, get inside, try to share bananas. fucking libtard, go suck black dicks, fucking BLMinstead of saying shit, open your eyes, and show us  A SINGLE PICTURE with WHITE LOOTERS. try it, hyprocric. 

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Buckaroo Banzai Future Jim Sat, 09/09/2017 - 18:29 Permalink

Everyone should familiarize themselves with Jonathan Haidt's work. He defines five basic moral foundations: Care/Harm, Fairness/Cheating, Authority/Subversion, Loyalty/Betrayal, and Sanctity/Degredation.

When Haidt looked at the political spectrum through the lens of his five moral foundations, he discovered that liberals/leftists are, quite literally, morally defective: they only acknowledge the first three of those moral foundations. They are morally blind to Loyalty/Betrayal and Sanctity/Degredation. Conservatives, on the other hand, recognize all five dimensions, and use them all in their daily lives.

Think about this, and you'll know it to be true. For example, liberals tolerate all manner of sexual degeneracy because they lack a disgust response; it's also why they are generally dirtier and less healthy.

An interesting byproduct of this deficiency that Haidt discovered is that liberals cannot accurately describe a conservative, or predict their behavior; conservatives on the other hand can accurately describe liberals and their viewpoints, and predict their behavior. Asking a liberal to describe conservatives is like asking a colorblind person to describe the difference between green and red.

This is why liberals are, in fact, wrong about everything. They simply aren't fully-developed human beings.

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Mr 9x19 New_Meat Sat, 09/09/2017 - 18:53 Permalink

never shot a pistol in his life?https://i11.servimg.com/u/f11/19/62/27/82/wp_20114.jpgnow, kneel to me.typical from a nation borned guy thinking he is member of the world's police, 70 years without a single military victory... how it is with kim jun recently,  fucked_head ? for your information american gun brands sucks seriously, compared to  european ones.  not a single from colt to s&w equal CZ from tch.rep  and sig from switzerland... ipsc with glock  or s&w maybe... lol... world champ ipsc is french,  and use italian brand. lol !you never hold a sp01 from cz or a tanfo stock seriedon't be mad  snowflake :)

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Future Jim Mr 9x19 Sat, 09/09/2017 - 19:04 Permalink

Ha! More agent provocateuring! Mr 9x19 is promoting violence towards those at the bottom, while conspicuously ignoring the players at the top. This is exactly what the players want because all conflict can be used as a pretext to justify more of a police state -- and ultimately -- global government.

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Mr 9x19 Future Jim Sat, 09/09/2017 - 19:52 Permalink

you understand nothing to nothing.waste of energy to try to raise your level of conscience.stay sucking niggers raping your rights and your advantages. keep saying welcome to all the globe while your economy is dying, keep looking down when LEOs asking driving licence, both hands on the wheel shaking like rat saying proudly " you recorded sir ! HA  sir ! " because you so scared to be shot. you have police state because you let it happen.period.behead head of an organisation, it collapses. you have let things grow since 1900', you are out of control, WH, deep state, pentagon, lobbies, the only way to dry it all, it to stop buying, not consumming, wait until all going down.you won't let it happen, you like your system, your advantages, your lifestyle, your black noisy neighbours. so stop talk to me, embrace your destiny. i will not accept that myself. the 1 st that come messing with me, got a headshot. now go fuck with someone else, libtard.

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Ferrari Future Jim Sat, 09/09/2017 - 17:30 Permalink

I think you make an excellent point. Thank you for that. I agree the mainstream agenda is insane & unsustainable. It's all perpetual war, wealth transfer from the toiling masses to the swine at the top, engineered deindustrialisation, and ethnic cleansing through open boarders, all of which is falsely attributed as acts of God, while it's the devil's work. There are other engineered factors like the mass lobotomy by consumerism, the corporate media, and the wratcheting up of productivity, which is akin to slavery.

These are the great scourges of our day, yet, as you & the article suggest, those in the mainstream are hypnotized by the left/right Hegelian dialectic, when the true struggle is us vs. the swine on high. (Yes, I lifted my conclusion from my boy, Anthony Sutton)

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Escrava Isaura Future Jim Sat, 09/09/2017 - 17:40 Permalink

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Jim, what would you suggest to replace mainstream social order? The revival of the gospel as the new social order? Libertarian anarchism? Socialism? If not those, whatever you suggest would have to be non regressive, right? So then, what would be the ideal social order, in your opinion?  

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FixItAgainTony Escrava Isaura Sat, 09/09/2017 - 19:33 Permalink

A constitutional republic in the manner described by America's age of enlightenment thinkers might be workable, AS LONG AS govt officials who betray the public trust are tarred and feathered, broken on the wheel, then drawn and quartered, with their heads placed on a spike at the state hall.

Of course, their immediate family members will have to return all past earnings of office and illicit gains from graft and will be barred from public service. That will incentivize internal oversight as it was in ye good olde days.

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Escrava Isaura Andre Sun, 09/10/2017 - 09:10 Permalink

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Go tell that to the Governator and the First Lady and see how long you last.  

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Escrava Isaura FixItAgainTony Sun, 09/10/2017 - 09:09 Permalink

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Constitutional Republic? Nonsense. Meaningless word because constitutional republic is not a social order. You could have a plutocracy under the constitutional republic. Second, in a republic a minority (private power and state capitalism) can rule the majority of the population.  Do you see a problem there? Isn’t it what we have now? Last but not least, a republic is SUBORDINATE to democracy, otherwise it's an OLIGARCHY (Tom Evans).  

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Escrava Isaura Future Jim Sun, 09/10/2017 - 09:13 Permalink

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Markets are highly regressive and inadequate social orders. Sorry, but you have to do better than that.  

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Cheka_Mate OverTheHedge Sat, 09/09/2017 - 16:38 Permalink

Anthem of 2017- Bananarama "Cruel Summer"Hot summer streetsAnd the pavements are burningI sit aroundTrying to smile butThe air is so heavy and dryStrange voices are saying(What did they say)Things I can't understandIt's too close for comfortThis heat has gotRight out of handIt's a cruel, (cruel), cruel summerLeaving me here on my ownIt's a cruel, (it's a cruel), cruel summerNow you're goneThe city is crowdedMy friends are awayAnd I'm on my ownIt's too hot to handleSo I got to get up and goIt's a cruel, (cruel), cruel summerLeaving me here on my ownIt's a cruel, (it's a cruel), cruel summerNow you're gonehttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e2lmyKE9vjU

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waspwench OverTheHedge Sat, 09/09/2017 - 16:53 Permalink

Define "well educated."Those who are labelled well educated are usually those with a university degree.   Increasingly, however, a degree does not ensure that one is well educated, rather it ensures that one is well indoctrinated.   For decades our institutions of higher learning have been in the hands of an extreme left wing intelligentsia and nonesense courses in social studies, promoting discontent and division, have proliferated.   These courses are simply indoctrination by any other name.   I can hardly think that a degree in women's studies, or black studies, or LGBT Studies makes for a well educated person, but that degree will still confer the "well educated" label for the purposes of surveys and statistics.   Additionally, many of the recipients of such degrees are affirmative action students whose agenda and  world view are at odds with much of the rest of our society.Perhaps those who have escaped the indoctrination of so-called higher education are better equipped to exercise common sense and independent thought.

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New_Meat Escrava Isaura Sat, 09/09/2017 - 18:20 Permalink

and here, we agree, in part.  Education is a way to take the successful things that humans have done and take the otherwise and bring in into the currenc context.  Education doesn't help, if the person being educated can't absorb.  I also agree, it has to stimulate future learning behaviours.The NEA and Common Core and the Eurotrash equivalents need not apply.Billy Ayers can go fuck himself.- Ned

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Ubuntuuser 847328_3527 Sat, 09/09/2017 - 16:40 Permalink

Americans need to be American first and partisan second. Support what works and what is good for the country by searching on both sides and understanding two different perspectives and when you have found the best issues of both sides choose a party that is willing to address the issues that you see working to improve America.

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ReturnOfDaMac Ubuntuuser Sat, 09/09/2017 - 17:36 Permalink

Stopit, just stopit.  People like you would enable the lumpen sheeple to unite and figure out its the elite that are screwing everybody, using chickenshit things like race and class to divide.  As long as the nation is divided elite can pick their voters instead of the other way around. No room for that shit here, shearing in progress. So just stop making sense, you asshole.

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Blue Steel 309 847328_3527 Sat, 09/09/2017 - 16:51 Permalink

The politicians are dividING. That is their mandate from their oligarch masters.

The USA is too heterogeneous (ethnically, racially, culturally, politically, religiously, etc etc.) to ever survive, let alone thrive. To examine history and not see this LAW, is to view history with some serious blinders on.

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waspwench Blue Steel 309 Sat, 09/09/2017 - 16:58 Permalink

We were doing just fine when US policy was the Melting Pot and integration was expected of immigrants.The government abandoned that policy and substituted Fruit Salad.   Everyone is now a hyphenated American.   Multiculturalism is government policy and division and fragmentation is the result.A fragmented and divided people is easier to control as the various factions can be played off against one another.   That is what the government wanted, and that is what they have acheived.

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JelloBeyonce 847328_3527 Sat, 09/09/2017 - 22:59 Permalink

Seriously?There were ~231 million eligible voters in the U.S. in 2016With ~59.93 million votes for Clinton 2.0And ~59.70 million votes for Trump1.  So where's the unity?2.  Plus, more people voted for Clinton 2.0 than Trump. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Regardless, a mere 25.8% of the registered voters chose the electors that chose the US president elect.Even with popular votes for Clinton 2.0 and Trump combined, there was barely a majority that voted for both.And the U.S. is a democracy (er, representative republic)?Trump or Clinton 2.0, the majority loses out.Since when did "democracy" become redefined as rule of the minority?Regardless whether one is Democrat or Republican, Americans ought to be concerned over the true, complete lack of democracy in the US, and of the current minority rule system.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure, and the intelligent are full of doubt"-Bertrand Russell-"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge"-Charles Darwin-Do yourself a favor & read about the Dunning-Kruger Effect.  It's the dumbest people that think they're always right.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Americans are so divided because the majority (likely those that voted for either Trump or Hillary) are complete dolts that are willing to fight to the death over their mindless opinions, despite the facts.The U.S. was founded on compromise.  Now everyone just wants to force their way on everyone else.Democrats & Republicans have more in common with each other than either side will realize, or admit.  Both are succumbing to corruption, authoritarianism & tyranny.  Both blame the other for the same malfeasance committed by their own side.“Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it.” “I have always strenuously supported the right of every man to his own opinion, however different that opinion might be to mine. He who denies to another this right, makes a slave of himself to his present opinion, because he precludes himself the right of changing it.”“If I do not believe as you believe, it proves that you do not believe as I believe, and that is all that it proves.”“He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.” -Thomas Paine-"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom.  As nations become more corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters"-Ben Franklin-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------And as the mindless masses are kept busily distracted with nonsense, and continue to fight against each other, Republican and/or Democrat, the same group of ultra-rich get even richer, the same group of ultra-powerful gain ever more power.  All the while, the common citizen continues to lose ground to inflation, and continue to lose true freedoms, liberties, and justice.We all lose, except for the feudal lords...and their praetorian guard...the politicians.

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