Pieczenik, Jones Get into Heated Debate Over Trump Conspiracies

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There are some people who apologize for Trump for virtually every single thing he does. They like to blame the usual cast of villains, including Dina Powell, Jared Kushner, Gary Cohn, Gen. McMaster, Mattis and Kelly -- even his own daughter Ivanka Trump. It's easy to get swept into drama-filled theories of palace intrigue -- depicting a cabal of evil people, all with ties to George Soros, trying to take down Trump. But if you followed that logic all the way down to its root, it would suggest that Trump was, in fact, an idiot -- unable to manage his affairs, permitting horrible people control and manage him, even isolate him from the grandeur of the alt-right media. None of this is conducive with the overarching theory by his sycophants that the President is always playing 3D intergalactic speed fencing championship tier chess -- so they resort to blaming others for isolating the President. Case in point. During today's broadcast of the Alex Jones show, Roger Stone made the outrageous implication that the President was being drugged -- as a precursor to a coup. He segued into that after discussing the resignation of long time Trump bodyguard, Keith Schiller. Stone said that Schiller had always been 'the canary in the coal mine' for the President and that with him out of the way, forced out by Gen. Kelly, the President's life was in danger. This all makes for a good radio show, drives up the click views on the website -- but it cannot be substantiated, aside from a few 'unnamed sources.' Stone even said that McMaster made disparaging remarks about Trump while dining with the CEO of Oracle recently, with Jones chiming in that the behavior was in fact 'treasonous.' All of this rhetoric was checked and flushed down a Floridian toilet bowl when Jones called up Dr. Pieczenik to get his take on this 'bombshell' news. Starting off the conversation, Dr. Pie chastised him thricely for not being polite enough to ask how he was fairing during Hurricane Irma -- then he laid waste to Jones' conspiracies, pointing out that the President wasn't a child and was smart enough to manage his own affairs. I've never seen these two clash. Watch.


wildbad VinceFostersGhost Tue, 09/12/2017 - 06:50 Permalink

alex jones is a personal hero of mine.

that said, lately he has become chaotic and unfocused. in many ways he is a genius.

that his forum allows for unscripted alternative opinions is a strength. piezcenik DID take him to the woodshed and alex was abashed.

i think the specific info that jones and stone are citing in this case (ie: trumps slurred words once) are very flimsy and piezcenik's chastisement of jones warrented.

so what ? move on. they are all fighting the good fight. its not some sanitized edited madison avenue ditchwater.

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Future Jim wildbad Tue, 09/12/2017 - 09:09 Permalink

Can anyone explain how Trump is NOT NWO?Most recently ...Trump Is NWO — Wants To Make Unlimited Government Spending Easier Trump apparently wants to ensure that no one doubts he is NWO because now he wants to make it easier for the US government to spend unlimited amounts of money.Trump appears eager to grant the dream of the Democratic party that the US government would no longer have to get Congressional approval each time it wants to increase the total amount of money the federal government is allowed to borrow (also known as the debt-ceiling).This is just the most recent of the articles where I document some of the betrayals by Trump:03/03/16: Trump is a Ringer11/19/16: The Globalists Chose Trump04/09/17: Trump Confirms He Is NWO07/30/17: Trump Calls For Lower Majority To Pass Laws

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Pinto Currency Future Jim Tue, 09/12/2017 - 10:31 Permalink

Pieczenik has said some very concerning things.The President opinion doesn't matter - it's the Republic (now who decides what's in the Republic's interest?  McMaster?). John Kennedy was taken out by the CIA for valid reasons.That Kelly isolating Trump from family and friends is acceptable.Insane rat-line operator and terrorist abetor David Patreus would be a good choice for an advisor to Trump.Henry Kissinger has done great things. Now if Pieczenik is going to be this authors frame of reference to decide what is normal and who is balanced and insightful, the article is without merit.With respect to the statement that people close to the President believe that he is being drugged is "outrageous", how exactly does I-bank's author know the true state of Trump's condition?This article is fluff and even trash - and dangerously misleading.   

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BarkingCat Keyser Tue, 09/12/2017 - 13:59 Permalink

His list of what is important was certainly eye opening.1) The republic2) people3) president. Should not people be at the top? Without them, there is no republic,His insistance that the president is not that important but continuity of government and succession is.That is absurd. What he says is that the president that is elected by the people can be taken out and as long as a stooge can be legaly put in place, he is fine with it.

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SixIsNinE Pinto Currency Tue, 09/12/2017 - 12:16 Permalink

good points Pintowhat AJ said about Reagan being drugged and manipulated i believe is true.Bush the Lesser 16 years ago talking about the 911 events on TeeeVeee definitely looked like he was dialed in on some kind of sedative/hypnoticno, i'd be more inclinded to believe AJ yesterday ... better to slowly drug Trump into a malleable state and hey, after a year or two, those Dim 25th amendment claims will look prescient. - Grumbleduke - yes, i agree, too, yet AJ is still interesting to listen to - and David Knight is great.  infowars has been having SOOOOO many commercials now, but being de-funded on yoootube has consequences. yes, AJ fails to mention Mossad involvement and has now shifted to blaming KSA.   I can still wade through his broadcast since i can put it on the speakerphone and do other things, like read zh and do my work  - but for younger people,  certainly don't take his word for gospel - instead listen with a keen ear to learn how to AJ uses his pulpit  -i will still look to AJ as one of our best cheerleaders for liberty.  And a champion for male virtue...it must get tiring though seeing as most of USA muni water supplies are still being poisoned with fluoride - and mayors and city councils still tell their people that it's good for us !!!!! 

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deepfriedbrain Future Jim Tue, 09/12/2017 - 12:26 Permalink

Look every global bank individually, not in sum, is leveraged more than the GDP of the entire world. There is no fixing this.  What Trump is doing is seperation the community bank system from the big globalist banks and will spend to get the country's infrastructure better than new.  He will let them spend to oblivion and their collapse date will come way before they are ready for it.  By the seperation of the banks the globalists entire leverage is gone.  They will be defeated by their own hubris. My .02

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messystateofaffairs wildbad Tue, 09/12/2017 - 10:33 Permalink

One mans paranoia is another mans heightened awareness. Considering the environment Trump is operating in its impossible to be paranoid. If its possible to do one has to assume they will do it, dirty tricks is their business including the trained psychological tricks of Pieczenik. Donald should do his own toxicology, better safe than sorry.

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Beowulf55 Volkodav Tue, 09/12/2017 - 12:25 Permalink

AJ is nothing but a carnival barker.  He has been that way even back in the days of broadcasting on the Republic Broadcasting Network.  He left there when he was told to stop using scare tactics to attract audiences. Needless to say.......he didn't. Use to like AJ as he did make me start looking into different things.  But I tired quickly of his endless self-promoting and self-aggrandizement. He is the world's biggest blowhard.  

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Grumbleduke Tue, 09/12/2017 - 05:57 Permalink

sigh...I kind of like Jones, he gave me the red pill many many many years ago. I don't trust that CIA guy, but I'm getting tired of Jones' antics. Almost never listens (except for Bob Chapman, may he rip), cuts off his guests, diverts the direction of discussions as he pleases and so forth.Alex is a legend in his lifetime, and he should stop being an asshole on radio. Letting the people speak is what makes great radio, fights are better on TV... And Letterman he'll never be.

Deep In Vocal … (not verified) Tue, 09/12/2017 - 06:02 Permalink

The filthy fucking zionist shill...................sucking that MIC/MISOC cock and swallows............lost all respect......trump wins the election...all of a sudden!? this little fucking zionist shill turns into the trump propaganda network!? something definitely not right there..... alternative media..haha......omfg these useful idiots......some of this alternative media are not alternative..........look at all the little clown boys at infowars........sucking and swallowing...left right divide and conquer.....pouring fuel on the fire....paul joseph watson a little cute boy who blames the left for everything.. left right useful idiots....left right....... the looting of our freedoms continue... 

Setarcos LA_Goldbug Tue, 09/12/2017 - 06:47 Permalink

Yeah that was either delusional or lying, I think the former.  All of these actors from Jones, to Stone, to Pieczenik and a myriad more, are, first and foremost, legends in their own lunch boxes, more or less, and that's all ... with Jones increasingly off on some messianic, if not maniacal fringe.  Unfortunately, because of this, almost anybody else seems reasonable, though spouting total nonsense like, "We closed down a Civil War in Syria."  It was NOT a civil war, it was a war of foreign intervention fought by CIA/Mossad/Washington ISIS mercenaries.  The US is still prosecuting the war and Syria would now be destroyed, like Libya, if Russia, Iran and Hezbollah had not intervened.  Eff you "Peacenik".

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Grumbleduke Setarcos Tue, 09/12/2017 - 07:20 Permalink

Trump: Keith, come in here - gotta tell ya something.Keith: Don, what's up?Trump: Keith, I need you to quit, right the fuck now!Keith: But, but Don - what is the problem. Never failed you, thwarted attempts on you. What did I wrong, man - I love you!?Trump: Listen. I need you to kill some guys for me. Starting with that dead eyed cocksucker.Keith: Pence?Trump: Well, I've found out who, where and what they are doing to me, and being poisoned isn't on my wishlist. Pence I don't know, just to be sure.Keith: I'll get caught, and loyality doesn't buy you a life-sentence. Fuck you, Don!Trump: Keith, I'm the president. If you act quickly, you'll be pardoned by the end of the year, celebrating christmas with your family and 20 mill cash. Or, you don't get caught - 30 mill.Keith: I'll think about it. Not a Grisham, but with potential?

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wildbad LA_Goldbug Tue, 09/12/2017 - 06:57 Permalink

i think the phrase "civil war" in the syria situation is not apt.

the war was largely attenuated by a worldwide condemnation of that particular CIA / NWO / Quatari incited attempt to topple Assad. it began with the british public protesting to the parliament to vote against that war. parliament for once responded and denied the prime misiter his war.

then the us military made it clear over social media that it "did not want to be al quaida's air force" and obama backed down.

the the word "civil" was used by pieczenic does not discredit his thesis nor erase the substantial facts of history.

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messystateofaffairs Tue, 09/12/2017 - 06:43 Permalink

Pieczenik is a Jew. Enough said. I'm with Roger Stone on this, they are poisoning the President. They are not going to Kennedy him, they are going to dismantle him publicly. Why wouldn't they do it, if it works for their agenda? Are they not absolutely ruthless and psychopathically deranged? If Trump knows whats good for him he will quietly have independent and thourough toxicology done on himself.

dogismycopilot messystateofaffairs Tue, 09/12/2017 - 07:32 Permalink

Roger Stone should be in the White House covering Trump's flanks.Anyone really think Javanka is going to be able to protect Trump, even if they really want to? Trump's personal bodyguard of 20 years has been pushed out.Of course they are going to drug Trump. It's called a pharmaceutial lobotomy.The Deep State kills women and children every day - You think they won't scramble the brain of Trump for fun?

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NotBuyingIt dogismycopilot Tue, 09/12/2017 - 09:55 Permalink

The IC scum don't even need to use actual pharmaceuticals. They have plenty of "no touch torture" options that don't even require a tangible agent, such as sleep deprivation, EMF & direct energy assaults - not to mention psychological torture, like turning Javanka and others against him.As someone who has experienced all of the above, I can tell you that the victim would likely PRAY for a chemical option rather than the "no touch torture" shit. The IC scumbags have their ways. If they want to break you, they can. Just pray for the president. And hope that he can withstand this bullshit long enough to make a dent in the swamp.

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The New Feudalism Tue, 09/12/2017 - 11:57 Permalink

I recall several years ago Dr Pie lauded Hillary for doing "a good job."  For the longest time he would not breathe a single off word against Bush I.  Just before Trump left for his spectacular trip to Saudi Arabia, he chastised Trump for going.  Pie said Trump ought to stay home and deal with the (artificially created) domestic issues.  Pie ain't the wise, patriotic policy heavy he is made to be. Alex is a piece of work.  Up until yesterday, for the past year or so Pie has been interjecting embarrassingly obsequious praise for him every few sentences while speaking on the air with him.   Alex ate it up. All of a sudden Pie has a problem with Alex's loutishness?  That's classic "crazy-making."  Pie knows this.

If Alex looked dismayed and shocked, he probably felt betrayed if not played. He was both, it would appear. Yet another learning experience in self-awareness, eh, Alex? But not to worry. Alex has a quality of genuineness that draws and holds his huge audience. Obviously, Yours Truly is a dedicated listener. The iodine he sells is the best (thank God he doesn't say it's purple anymore. It is red.).

I expect yesterday we heard and saw Pie's actual opinion of Jones.   But for the stress from the emergency and probably no indication from the show of the topic for the call, Pie would have composed himself and been prepared to drop a "smoother move" of his typical patter. Heretofore unseen levels of ass kissing and buttering up for mollification purposes are sure to follow.

Will Alex invite him back? Only if he wants to continue to extend his platform to this mouth piece for the Deep State. Consider a disclaimer for your audience if you do, Alex. And just say "no" to his phony sugar. This guy has been outed.

That said, I am glad Pie is ok after the hurricane. Me, I wished last fall that Trump would rededicate his hotel in DC and be President from there.  I still do.    

JohnKing Tue, 09/12/2017 - 07:15 Permalink

Trump is the biggest snake in the jungle, been eating other snakes for breakfast in NYC for decades. So now, all of a sudden he is outsmarted by petty bureaucrats?Nah, he is 5 steps ahead of them.

dogismycopilot Tue, 09/12/2017 - 07:29 Permalink

I remember the good old days when I thought Alex Jones was a kook and I could fly without some TSA fag grabbing my nut sack. The good old days pre9/11.Post 9/11 Alex Jones has been spot on in his analysis and many of his old warnings has been proven real (your phone and TV spying on you, weather modificaton, and organ harvesting, etc.).  I trust Roger Stone more than I do Steve Pie the Zionist ex-CIA swamp creature. Once a swamp creature, always a swamp creature.Did you hear Steve Pie? He was whinning like a little bitch. In his nasally, shrill voice, "Why didn't you ask how I was feeling, Alex? Why didn't you bother to ask how my house was, Alex? Why didn't you think about us here in hurricane Irma, Alex?"Steve Pie sounded like a nagging fucking Jewish wife. Don't believe me, listen to the first 30 seconds.Alex was having flashbacks to his wife's bullshit. I could see it in his eyes. And as for you guys you think Alex is a "Jewish Shill" wait until your kids get weaponized by your exwife and you will realize anything you say about her can (and will be) used in a court of law. His Jewish wife has basically taken his kids as hostage for the Jewish Mafia. Of course he isn't going to say anything bad about Jews! 

dogismycopilot The New Feudalism Tue, 09/12/2017 - 08:34 Permalink

Because everyone knows Jewish girls are FREAKS in the sack and they are made to seduce the strong men of their enemies.Look to the bible for the classic example: Samson and Delilah. Delilah was a Jew from the Nahal Sorek Valley in Israel.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DelilahAlex has a weakness for grabbing them by the pussy.Don't we all?Having high testosterone levels is a curse.

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