Drone Footage Shows Puerto Rico Devastation From The Air

Hurricane Maria caused widespread damage to Puerto Rico. Drone footage captured the scene in San Juan and Canóvanas on Sept. 21.

As we reported earlier, flash flooding caused by the storm has prompted the NWS to warn that a dam in the northwestern part of the island is in danger of failing, prompting the government to scramble to evacuate the 70,000 residents of the river valley beneath the dam that is in danger of being completely submerged.


SWRichmond El Oregonian Sat, 09/23/2017 - 19:31 Permalink

Civ breakdown dead ahead.  Police inadequacy will be obvious to all very soon , and then it gets ugly fast. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Puerto_RicoThe main drivers of its economy are manufacturing, primarily pharmaceuticalstextilespetrochemicals, and electronics; followed by the service industry, notably financeinsurancereal estate, and tourism. Gosh, all of those require electricity. However, Puerto Rico imports 85% of its food even though most of the land is fertile. Only a mere 6% is arable; a fact that poses a direct threat to Puerto Rico's food security.[ How will they pay for it now?  

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Slack Jack gatorengineer Sat, 09/23/2017 - 20:31 Permalink

When the temperatures are higher, hurricanes are (potentially) more powerful. Since hurricanes are formed by the evaporation of sea-water. The warmer the water, the more evaporation and the stronger the hurricane. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure out that global warming will add to the average strength of hurricanes. The occurrence of hurricanes depends on many factors, in particular the wind shear. So it is not clear that global warming will necessarily increase the number of Hurricanes, although it might.

Record-Setting Hurricanes; Record temperatures; Record-Setting Wildfires; ya think it might be global warming?


So, why is the global rise in temperatures so worrisome?

For one thing, as temperatures rise good farmland will become desert (e.g., dust-bowl conditions will probably return to the American Midwest).

Another major problem is sea-level rise.

Have a look at http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/fs2-00/

The U.S. Geological Survey people claim that;

The Greenland ice sheet melting will raise sea-level 6.55 meters (21.5 feet),
the West Antarctica ice sheet melting will raise sea-level 8.06 meters (26.4 feet),
the East Antarctica ice sheet melting will raise sea-level 64.8 meters (212.6 feet),
and all other ice melting will raise sea-level 0.91 meters (3 feet).

For a grand total of about 80 meters (263 feet).

So, what does an 80 meter (263 feet) rise in sea-level mean. Have a look at the following map of the world after an 80 meter rise. It means that over one billion people will have to be resettled to higher ground and that much of the most productive agricultural land will be under water. Fortunately, at current rates, the Greenland ice sheet will take over a thousand years to melt and the Antarctica ice sheet, much longer. However, the greater the temperature rise the faster the ice sheets will melt, bringing the problem much closer. Remember, the huge ice sheet that recently covered much of North America, almost completely melted in only 15,000 years (today, only the Greenland ice sheet, and some other small patches of it, remain). Since then (15,000 years ago), sea-levels have risen about 125 meters (410 feet), only 80 meters to go.

The ice sheets have been continuously melting for thousands of years. What is left of them today, is still melting, and will continue to melt. Human caused global warning will cause this remnant to melt significantly faster. This is a big, big, problem.

For HUGE detailed maps of the "World after the Melt" go to:


Global temperatures are increasing. And by quite a lot each year.

2016 is the hottest year on record for global temperatures.

This is 0.0380 degrees centigrade hotter than the previous record year which was 2015.

0.0380 is a large increase in just one year.

2015 was the hottest year (at that time) for global temperatures.

This was 0.1601 degrees hotter than the previous record year which was 2014.

0.1601 is an absolutely huge increase in just one year (at this rate temperatures would increase by 16 degrees in a century).

2014 was the hottest year (at that time) for global temperatures.

This was 0.0402 degrees hotter than the previous record year which was 2010.


The conspiracy to hide global warming data.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) is given tax money to make global temperature records available to the public. However, certain people at NOAA continually sabotage this aspect of NOAA's mandate. For example, these people have (deliberately) sabotaged the web-page that delivers the temperature records.

Look for yourself:

Go to the page: https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/monitoring-references/faq/anomalies.php scroll down to the The Global Anomalies and Index Data section and click the download button and see what happens. Well, you get the message:

"Not Found. The requested URL /monitoring-references/faq/anomalies-download was not found on this server."

I guess that the 2017 data must be truly horrible if they have to hide it away.

It turns out that this seems to be the case; NASA reports that:

July 2017 had the hottest average land temperatures on record.

The new July 2017 record was +1.20 degrees centigrade above the 20th century average (of the July data). The previous record average land temperature for July was just last year. It was +1.10 degrees above the 20th century average.

Did the media bother to tell you about this? No!

The average land temperatures for August 2017 are second only to those of last year, August 2016.


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lew1024 Slack Jack Sat, 09/23/2017 - 21:17 Permalink

The relationship you hypothesize "global warming --> desertification" is wrong.Actually, desertification --> global warming, or at least the major way in which humans have affected local temperatures and so climate. Fortunately individuals understood how to manage the different varieties of desertification and that rejuvenates the entire ecosystem and hydrological cycle. The technology is well-known enough so that rejuvenation can now be done at a profit, with jobs and farms for the local people, and them owning the land at the end. China is doing so for major parts of its deserts.Lots of Youtube videos, Allan Savory is one of the main researchers and speakers, but there are more than a dozen big names specializing in different environments, mixes of trees, grasses and farming ,etc.That just needs rule of law, which is in short supply around the world these days.

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Justin Case Slack Jack Sat, 09/23/2017 - 21:31 Permalink

Even small changes in solar activity can impact Earth's climate in significant and surprisingly complex ways, researchers say. "In the lower stratosphere, the presence of ozone causes a local warming because of the breakup of ozone molecules by ultraviolet light," climate scientist Jerry North at Texas A&M University told SPACE.com.When the ozone is removed, "the stratosphere there becomes cooler, increasing the temperature contrast between the tropics and the polar region. The contrast in temperatures in the stratosphere and the upper troposphere leads to instabilities in the atmospheric flow west to east. The instabilities make for eddies or irregular motions."These eddies feed the strength of jet streams, ultimately altering flows in the upper troposphere, the layer of atmosphere closest to Earth's surface. "The geographical positioning of the jets aloft can alter the distribution of storms over the middle latitudes," North said. "So the sun might have a role to play in this kind of process. I would have to say this would be a very difficult mechanism to prove in climate models. That does not mean it may not exist — just hard to prove."In addition, climate scientist Gerald Meehl at the National Center for Atmospheric Research and his colleagues suggest that solar variability is leaving a definite imprint on climate, especially in the Pacific Ocean.When researchers look at sea surface temperature data during sunspot peak years, the tropical Pacific showed a pattern very much like that expected with La Niña, a cyclical cooling of the Pacific Ocean that regularly affects climate worldwide, with sunspot peak years leading to a cooling of almost 1 degree Celsius (1.8 degrees Fahrenheit) in the equatorial eastern Pacific. In addition, peaks in the sunspot cycle were linked with increased precipitation in a number of areas across the globe, as well as above-normal sea-level pressure in the mid-latitude North and South Pacific."The Pacific is particularly sensitive to small variations in the trade winds," Meehl said. Solar activity may influence processes linked with trade wind strength.

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MoreFreedom SWRichmond Sat, 09/23/2017 - 22:31 Permalink

You didn't read the details in your link such as:"Labor force by occupationServices: 29.9%, Government: 23.7%,Trade 21.8%Public utilities 5.2%  (also run by the government)..."Given government pays 1/4 of the workers, how is it the economic GDP% by sector pie chart shows 46% manufacturing but only 8.6% government?   This says that while government pays 1/4 of the workers, it only generates 8.6% of GDP (and I'd argue it really doesn't generate anything, because the government is very corrupt there and crime is rampant as anyone can see by all the burglar bars over all the windows and doors just about everywhere).  I have a photo of a police station there where the concrete walls are pock marked with bullet chips from shots fired from the large public housing apartment tower across the street, about 5 miles from when I lived there decades ago.  I lived there when one of HW Bush's secretaries was killed in a car jacking when she was on vacation.Note that government doesn't even make the list for Labor force by occupation for "The economy of the US" in Wikipedia.This just shows all those government "jobs" are mostly no-show kickback schemes to the politician who arranged for the fake job.  Taxes are much hgier than in the US (for all income levels), to pay for all those government employees.  And it's also why if you go shopping, it's always crowded with long lines, poor selection and high prices, assuming you can find parking.Regarding their debt, what the PR politicians are trying to do, is stiff the US funds (invested for retirees here in the US) holding bonds backed by the full faith and credit of PR, so they can continue to pay the gold plated defned benefit pensions of retired government employees, the payroll of government employees, and the welfare population who they depend upon to get re-elected.There are some nice people there, but most treat mainlanders like second class citizens. 

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Ms No Sat, 09/23/2017 - 18:52 Permalink

I posted this on the other thread that is dead.  I have spent a lot of time in Isabela which is under this dam.Some reports are that the dam has a crack and serious structural damage of an unclariified nature.  There have also been some pictures that make it look like it is overtopping.  The Governor doesn't even know the full extent of the damage.  The government has next to no contact with the population.  1360 of their 1600 cell phone towers are gone, 85% of phone and internet.  This is likely the worst on the north side of the island that took the brunt of the storm.  Likely there it is nearing 100%There is densely forested mountainous terrain in there and these low paid government goons will not be finding everybody.  Likely many will abandon their responsibility to save their own ass.  I know how these fuckers work and could give numerous examples.  The government is trying to reach people via twitter and sending their low paid goons.  Problem is that many roads are washed out and cluttered ridiculously even under good conditions.  Those roads don't have the capacity to begin with.  I have already seen picture of people stuck on roads that look like parking lots trying to get cell service by standing on their cars, stranded in their cars.People who are lucky enough to get the information are likely to have to hike through water to high ground.  You don't want to do that in those jungles.  Hopefully that dam holds or this will be a major fuckeree.P.S.  I know a packaging engineer that had to use a sticky note signed by a cop there for six months to suffice as a drivers license and registration (stolen).  That is how long it took to get a new license and registration, in good times.  She probably spent a 100 hours on that.  How would she have flown out of there?  Long story short, she wouldn't.  Then she would be under that dam with no communication with competent authorities because they don't exist there to begin with. 

LetThemEatRand Baron von Bud Sat, 09/23/2017 - 19:27 Permalink

"Govt is saying 4-6 months to restore power"Even homes that were only modestly damaged will be total losses after months of moisture/water etc not being pumped out.  There's no effective water remediation without power.   In the hot and humid climate, mold will start growing in no time even in houses did not take in water during the storm.  And imagine the diseases that will start spreading with 3+ million people and no effective sewage removal.  People here who are downplaying the damage are not thinking this through.

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Baron von Bud LetThemEatRand Sat, 09/23/2017 - 19:41 Permalink

That's a good analysis and summarizes the likely property loss. I own a rental in the US midwest in a good area. It was vacant for one year due to a situation beyond my control. I had a wasp infestation and water damage due to a snow backup in the gutters. A house that's not occupied can deteriorate quickly in the best areas. In PR, we're looking at total losses of many homes and businesses.

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withnmeans Ms No Sat, 09/23/2017 - 19:16 Permalink

Ms No, sad thing is, I have to agree with you! I know the Isabela area as well, also a lot of other areas in Puerto Rico. I like PR, however it is truly ran like a third world country. I use to Manage an Electrical Utility here in the U.S., there is No question the things I could do for them in a short period of time. Their Electrical systems are a mess, the first and foremost thing to do is break up PREPA "PERIOD"!!! Sometimes technology is not a good thing, relying on cell service for sole communications is a total "NO". Hell, ship down a truck load of cheap CB's would put a quick fix for comm's between towns and villages "its a  small island". However, all that being said, it is a very corrupt island, and really difficult to accomplish anything. The Governor has his back against the wall, OR, is he a big part of the problem? Time will tell. 

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shimmy Sat, 09/23/2017 - 18:53 Permalink

So some dilapidated buildings took some damage and some streets got a bit flooded. Wow, worst storm ever! Things don't look all that bad in that flyover. Surely not based on the supposed strength of the storm which I am guessing was bullshit.  

Ms No shimmy Sat, 09/23/2017 - 19:13 Permalink

There is reason to suspect that both these storms were not as big as they said they were originally.  They both hit at admittedly decreased intensity, so how do we know?  This doesn't look like 5 damage to me either.  There would probably just be foundation slabs.  They lie about everything to keep the global warming panic alive so there is always reason for suspicion. 

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honest injun Sat, 09/23/2017 - 19:04 Permalink

I've been to Puerto Rico.  This video looks like an improvement to most of the island.  Even the streets that are under water are still driveable.  If you are going to say things are bad, get a video that shows the damage.

amenlight Ms No Sat, 09/23/2017 - 19:58 Permalink

There seem to be a lot of houses damaged. Also the trees and vegetation. The trees standing have no leaves, they look like ours in the winter. I have seen videos of other towns with a lot of flooded streets and houses, fallen transformers and light poles and power lines. There is no phone communication since the hurricane. cell phones towers may have come down and the USPS has not resume services in Puerto Rico. Videos show a lot of areas devastated.

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Ms No Sat, 09/23/2017 - 19:26 Permalink

An oar fish was found in BC Thursday on the beach.  Not good.  These deep sea fish are a pretty accurate predictor of quakes.  There might be something going on deep out there.  What a shit show.  The spot that set the last flare off is coming around the sun so hopefully it stays calm, especially with that other storm out there and constant quakes.  That is likely what energized everything to begin with.https://www.sott.net/article/362730-Rare-oarfish-washes-up-in-Oak-Bay-British-Columbia