Erdogan Says Turkey No Longer Needs EU Membership, Son Slams European "Infidels"


President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said on Sunday that Turkey no longer needs EU membership.

His son Bilal who plays an important role in Turkey’s politics went even further and described the Europeans as “gavur” (indifels).

The comments come after 12-year-long accession talks with Brussels grind to a halt.

“We will not be the side which gives up. To tell the truth, we don’t need EU membership anymore,” Erdogan said.

Turkey’s 12-year-long accession talks have ground to a halt, with the EU especially critical of Ankara’s crackdown following a failed coup last year. Tens of thousands of people including teachers and journalists have been detained.

Erdogan’s government says EU states failed to appreciate the gravity of the threat which Turkey faced, and did not respond to requests to extradite coup suspects.

“The EU failed us in a fight against terrorism,” Erdogan said on Sunday, though he also suggested the bloc still needed Turkey.


“If the EU is going to leap forward, there is only one way to do so. And it is to grant Turkey membership and start an action of cultural and economic growth,” Erdogan said.

German Chancellor Angela Merkel said in an election debate last month it was clear Turkey should not join the EU and entry talks should end, despite it being a crucial NATO ally.

His son Bilal Erdogan lashed out against against the European -the West- way of life in general and and called “gavur” (infidels) those Turks who “wear clothes, watch films, listen to music and eat Western food.”

“In this country, nothing was allowed to be done nationally. Now, we produce our own aircraft, our tank, our rifle. […]. Why are we looking for these infidel attitudes? […] We are the grandsons of an ancestor with swords, rides, arrows, ” Erdogan’s son stirred told a crowd of western-suits wearing men.

The term Gavur  infidel  in English – is an offensive term, a slur, historically used in the Ottoman Empire for Christians, such as Orthodox Christians in the Balkans (non-Muslims).

Good Luck, then, all the way back to Ottoman times with Janissary costumes and fake mustaches…


Dame Ednas Possum TheSilentMajority Tue, 10/03/2017 - 03:47 Permalink

Fuck the EU! And for that matter, fuck the TU also.  The EU will be disappointed as they really need Turkey... to give them some tips on how to be more brutal in cracking down on democracy, freedom of speech and general civil liberties and human rights. Catalonia could have been jack-booted much better with the guidance of Erdog and his prodigy, Bile.   

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Cracker Pipes Tue, 10/03/2017 - 03:40 Permalink

Germany getting bichslapped by real nazis. Taken to the cleaners by brutal thugs many who reside on German territory...if the shoe was reversed the Turks would run the Germans off if they didn't slaughter them outright...German fools should have stuck with atomKraft...fucking morons...Merkel is such an asswipe to have brought them to this cultural sewer...

Joe A Tue, 10/03/2017 - 03:55 Permalink

Turkey depends very much on exports to European countries and on the import of half finished products and base material from Europe, so good luck with that Turkey. Let's see if memories of an empire long gone can fill people's empty bellies if that flow of goods and money stops.

BritBob Tue, 10/03/2017 - 04:35 Permalink

The EU failed to condemn Rajoy's Spain for putting down Catalonia's  independence aspirations.Spain will not allow the Catalans to have the right to self-determination as this will impinge on their national sovereignty. Spain uses the same flawed territorial integrity doctrine to deny that the people of Gibraltar have the right to self-determination. Gibraltar self-determination:Gib – Territorial Integrity (1 page) 

Sparehead Vilfredo Pareto Tue, 10/03/2017 - 08:48 Permalink

And for any that are unaware, Kosovo was "taken from Serbia". At the risk of oversimplifying, that region of Serbia had been conquered by the Ottoman empire (who then introduced the Islam virus), and then later regained its autonomy in a Serbian uprising. Mad Madeline's phony claim of genocide and the all the resulting murders (increase in murders I should say) that resulted when we forced the Christian's protection out of the region was another black mark on the West. The region is still fucked up today.

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gespiri Tue, 10/03/2017 - 04:53 Permalink

Bilal was the son who made billions trading black market oil with ISIS 2 years ago until the Russians stopped it.What's more anti-Islamic is the way these hypocrites (including that incestuous family in Saudi and all of UAE) show off their wealth in London every summer while holding slaves to build their modern cities.

Blanco Diablo Tue, 10/03/2017 - 05:04 Permalink

Turkey has launched a major military base in Somalia. The $50 million facility is designed to provide support and training to troops of the war-torn country which is struggling to rebuild its national security forces.What is the end game for this move?

MPJones Tue, 10/03/2017 - 05:27 Permalink

Far more importantly: the EU neither needs nor wants Turkish membership. A hard, really hard, border needs to be set up to defend Europe from the ongoing Muslim invasion of the continent. Hungary is showing the way - we should all follow and that cannot happen soon enough. At the same time we need to do something serious about Islam's demographic warfare against us from inside the borders of our countries.

MPJones Vilfredo Pareto Tue, 10/03/2017 - 06:31 Permalink

No, not quite but stopping it will require some radical measures. Outlawing religious schools would be a good first step. Limiting child support to two children per family another good step. Counter-indoctrination included in the national school curriculum a third. Outlawing barbaric slaughter methods a fourth. Deporting illegals a fifth. Muslim immigration must of course be stopped 100%, that goes without saying. So, all is not yet lost but because of short-sighted politicians it probably will be.

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MPJones avenriv Tue, 10/03/2017 - 09:15 Permalink

Yes, it's not only Islam that's in need of modernisation. I am actually not biased against Arabs or Jews but against all petrified doctrinal political systems. As far as I am concerned all of this has little to do with individuals but a lot with systems of power.Also, it has nothing to do with what we understand by 'religion': a spiritual/philosophical movement.

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Expat Tue, 10/03/2017 - 05:27 Permalink

THe EU went too far, too fast. Third world countries like Turkey are simply too hard to absorb into the modern political and economic systems.  It is a great tribute to Germany that it absorbed and transformed East Germany as quickly as it did, something that most people overlook when pointing fingers at the German economy.Turkey is a key geographic component of NATO and for that reason alone has been allowed to be vile, violent, and undemocratic. 

scallywagrab Expat Tue, 10/03/2017 - 06:27 Permalink

Same as any western ally is allowed to behave, Israel?....Saudi Arabia?....then there's the animal militias western .govs support (while pretending to be against them) List goes on & on my friend

Not forgetting the leading example set by our own leaders when dealing with us mere peons or that of other countries populations that we drone, bomb, invade, etc, etc

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A. Boaty Expat Tue, 10/03/2017 - 08:05 Permalink

The economy of Turkey is defined as an emerging market economy by the IMF. Turkey is among the world's developed countries according to the CIA World Factbook. Turkey is also defined by economists and political scientists as one of the world's newly industrialized countries. Turkey has the world's 17th-largest nominal GDP, and 13th-largest GDP by PPP (Purchasing Power Parity). The country is among the world's leading producers of agricultural products; textiles; motor vehicles, ships and other transportation equipment; construction materials; consumer electronics and home appliances.

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StephenHopkins Tue, 10/03/2017 - 06:11 Permalink

The EU is a total failure. It’s plugged so many leaks with duct tape it’s just a matter of time before it literally bursts. Central planning always fails: the head forgets the tail.

gaoptimize Tue, 10/03/2017 - 07:28 Permalink

...and we are the ones who stopped your Islamic asses every time you tried it at Tours, Vienna, and Lepanto (celebrated 8 October).  Don't push your luck, or tens of millions of Westerners will wake up and send you back to the stone age.

Iwanttoknow gaoptimize Tue, 10/03/2017 - 12:57 Permalink

Read history, not propaganda.Moors really did not try hard to push eastward.They were not particurly religious compared to the surrounding areas.They tolerated nonmuslims better than cristian europe.Mian reason Moorish empire fell because of not spending enough money on military.they were too focussed on science and culture.

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koan Tue, 10/03/2017 - 07:30 Permalink

"We are the grandsons of an ancestor with swords, rides, arrows”

And where is your great Caliphate now? You got your asses kicked.