Defying Spanish Defense Ministry's Civil War Threat, Catalans To Hold Debate Monday

Spanish (and European) stocks surged this afternoon as headlines crossed that Catalan separatists were hoping to 'stall' proceedings in hope of negotiating with Madrid. That hopeful headline appears to have been crushed now as Bloomberg reports the Catalan regional parliament intends to meet as planned Monday, defying a suspension by Spain’s Constitutional Court.

As Bloomberg reports, Jordi Sanchez, who heads the Catalan National Assembly, said that lawmakers may need to gather in an alternative venue, but that the debate on an illegal referendum on independence from Spain will take place. Sanchez collaborates closely with Regional President Carles Puigdemont and the speaker in the Catalan legislature, Carme Forcadell. He helped organize the vote on Oct. 1.

“There will be some formula for the Catalan Parliament to convene and hold its meeting as planned,” Sanchez said in an interview in Barcelona.

 

“There will be a plenary session.”

While separatists are split on whether to declare independence next week, they are agreed that they need to hold the session on Monday to sustain the momentum in their campaign - clearly signalling that the 'stall' rumor was false.

Additionally, confirming the earlier concerns, Banco Sabadell has decided to move its corporate registered address outside of Catalonia, Europa Press reported, and Reuters reports that Spanish authorities will on Friday approve a decree that makes it easier for companies to transfer their legal base out of Catalonia.

The decree is tailor-made for Spanish lender Caixabank and would allow the bank to change its legal and tax base without having to hold a shareholder’s meeting.

Bank bonds bounced but were unconvinced that this solves the Catalan region's largest lenders' problems...

However, perhaps most ominously, TheSpainReport.com reports that the Spanish Defense Minister has warned "everything outside of democracy is a threat to our nation."

Spain's Defence Minister, María Dolores de Cospedal (PP) said on Thursday morning during a conference about women in the Spanish armed forces...

 

"The state of law has a duty to defend its citizens and therefore the duty to defend liberty and the law, because in a democracy the law is made by all of us."

 

"Either you are with the law or you are against it."

 

"With the law in hand, from a position of unity and addition, of institutional respect and with rules we have all given ourselves, we can continue to build a project that has been the most successful one in recent world history."

 

"The Constitution and our entire body of laws are our ensign but at the same time give us the instruments and means to protect our nation."

 

"It is in our legislation where all of us, absolutely all of us, are equal. It is precisely the law that makes us equal and avoids the tyranny of a few on the rest."

 

"That is precisely why no one can ignore it because they are placing themselves not only outside of the law but mean to place themselves above others."

Why is this so ominous?

Simple, Article 8 of the Spanish Constitution states that Spain's Armed Forces have the "mission of guaranteeing the sovereignty and independence of Spain, of defending her territorial integrity and constitutional order".

In other words - if the Catalans push for secession, thus breaking the 'territorial integrity' of the sovereign state, then Spain can send in the military to 'fix' the problem.

Comments

The Alarmist BurningFuld Thu, 10/05/2017 - 15:15 Permalink

It would be a serious breach of constitutional order in any country if the Judiciary had the power to suspend the legislative branch. The King might have the powers to dissolve it, but he'll just have to watch another body be elected to do it all over again. At least this latter approach would be consistent with the EU policy of having repeat elections until the voters come to a "correct" outcome.

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msamour rrrr Thu, 10/05/2017 - 14:17 Permalink

That is exactly what I was thinking also. The defense minister's speech relies heavily on mentioning the "Law" every sentence because that is all they have for argument. Nevermind that the so called law was written to keep the population subservient. I suppose we can expect a civil war commancing next week...

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Vageling Thu, 10/05/2017 - 13:41 Permalink

Equal and that kinda yadda. People fall for that shit everytime. Last time I checked the robbermint is the few. They made themselves more "equal" than others. Banksters? Law? Yeah, equal. The few, a group of corrupt greedy muppets, bring tyranny to the most.But nice try Maria. Sure you won the hearts and minds of many with that hollow oratory. 

richCat Thu, 10/05/2017 - 13:44 Permalink

Spain can send in the military to 'fix' the problem. Gosh, my father remembered 1936; still alive in 2017 he said 'we thought his nonsense' was done with ?This is a very retro step. Madrid, with other pressures is ill equipped to dealing to underground movements. Spain has received vast sums of EU monies, could all this got to pot and go backwards ?

brain_glitch Thu, 10/05/2017 - 13:56 Permalink

"Banco Sabadell has decided to move its corporate registered address outside of Catalonia"

That is what happens when the project is not credible. Companies flee. Already the Generalitat asked its public companies to pay taxes to Catalonia not to Spain (http://www.expansion.com/economia/2017/10/03/59d29ce246163f104f8b458c.h…), and they are pressuring the private companies too.

For any merger & acquisition or when you split a company you have an army of lawyers and accountants working for months if not years to find a way to do it properly.

Becoming an independent country is magnitudes times more difficult than splitting a company. What are these guys doing? All we see are gestures.

brain_glitch brain_glitch Thu, 10/05/2017 - 15:59 Permalink

CaixaBank moving out too, Würth Spain (industrial supplies, 3000 employes ) also leaving Catalonia, and Oryzon (farmaceutical),... This is not even in the news yet.

Do you see a trend?

These idiots are going to destroy Catalonia. And guess who will suffer the most? Jusep Six Pack

The fucking politicians will walk away with their massive pensions to be in the board of a corporation.

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BritBob Thu, 10/05/2017 - 14:02 Permalink

Spanish king uses UN address to demand Britain return Gibraltar (RT 22 Sep, 2016 ). Spain will not allow the Catalans to have the right to self-determination as this will impinge on their national sovereignty. Spain uses the same flawed territorial integrity doctrine to deny that the people of Gibraltar have the right to self-determination. Gibraltar self-determination:Gib – Territorial Integrity (1 page)https://www.academia.edu/29347730/Gibraltar_-Territorial_Integrity

PontifexMaximus Thu, 10/05/2017 - 14:10 Permalink

the catalonia story is and will be the best story to move EU markets higher. BTW, no one and his dog care about catalonia. I am 1000 % conviced, that restaurants are full and life is moving on. Cui bono?

JPMorgan Thu, 10/05/2017 - 14:15 Permalink

Looks like the hostile takeover of Catalonia is on.I would imagine local government officials supporting independence will be the among the first people they try to arrest and jail.

honestann Thu, 10/05/2017 - 14:22 Permalink

Finally... something worth having a war over.Which means... of course... they won't.With 90% pro-exit vote == EXIT.They'll chicken out, the morons! 

Don Diego Thu, 10/05/2017 - 14:37 Permalink

The manipulation of the Tylers knows no limits. The declarations of the Minister of Defense, talking in a women's conference, were in her capacity of Government official, not Minister of Defense. Of course, she follows the government line, what a surprise.The Spanish army has not increased its minimimal presence in Catalonia, nor are there rumours they are preparing to intervene. Spain has actually withdrawn 2000 policemen (out of the 14000 present in Catalonia) to protect a soccer match. 14000 men to watch over a population of 7.5M do not seem a lot but the risks of this getting out of hand are low. The main catalan newspaper says a declaration of independence would be a "very bad idea" in its editorial. Check mate suckers.http://www.lavanguardia.com/opinion/20171005/431798242166/la-dui-seria-… now wants to negotiate,http://www.lavanguardia.com/politica/20171005/431807677289/discurso-pui… I said no declaration of independence on Monday. The Spanish have all the advantage now, they should wait until the inter-catalan infighting starts and then cancel their autonomy. Clean up with arrests and dismissals the higher levels of the administration and police and hand back most administrations except the education department and the public TV. And I know this is a dream, reduce everybody's taxes and of course the public "services" and overhead.

IDESofMARCH Thu, 10/05/2017 - 14:48 Permalink

There is no more democracy only globalists control. Catalan will be force to give up their dream with military pressure. Only successful separation was Cramia with Russian protection.   

discopimp Thu, 10/05/2017 - 17:42 Permalink

Wait, is this how TPTB will rally to our own Constitution, when "their" laws are continuously disobeyed, and they have no other refuge in which to turn?  Patriotism is the last refuge for a scoundrel – seems as if the government of Spain is currently claiming this podium. 

discopimp Thu, 10/05/2017 - 17:51 Permalink

Good People of Catalonia, you have had your say, there is no longer a need to ask for premission, LEAVE!  Do so now or fear your new master is the same as your old one.   Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws. Plato