Why Is Amazon Meeting With Banking Regulators?

While the financial media has been preoccupied with the idea that the banking business is at risk of being “Amazon’d” by the blockchain, the banks themselves are worried about being “Amazon’d” by…well…Amazon…

Or at least they should be, as American Banker’s Lalita Clozel explains in a piece tracing large tech companies’ attempts to forge ties with banking regulators in anticipation of someday leveraging the vast quantities of customer data to outmuscle the banks in their own industry. Meanwhile, even the most optimistic cryptocurrency enthusiasts concede that blockchain technology continues to grapple with issues of scalability that, for now at least, will make it incredibly difficult to compete with banks.

A group of companies that includes Google, Facebook and Amazon recently formed a lobbying group to help them explore the feasibility of entering businesses like lending and loan-intermediation.

Technology giants like Google, Amazon, Facebook and Apple are showing an increasing interest in engaging with federal banking regulators, a move that underscores Silicon Valley’s growing involvement in the financial services arena. In recent years, such firms have formed a lobbying group, Financial Innovation Now, that is staking out their view on various hot-button topics. But some firms are also meeting individually with government agencies.

Furthermore, both Amazon and Square have taken meetings with the OCC.

For example, Amazon lobbyists met with the Office of the Comptroller of the Currency starting in the second quarter of 2016, and again this year to discuss “issues related to mobile payments and payment processing, financial innovation, and technology," according to publicly available lobbying disclosures.

PayPal, meanwhile, met with OCC officials in the second, third and fourth quarters of last year to discuss “mobile payment innovation” issues related to underserved customers and remittances and money transfers, according to its disclosures.

Even before this latest lobbying effort, both companies had already launched forays into small-business lending (Amazon’s SB lending businesses saw its revenue double over the past year). Apple, meanwhile, has for years been lending to customers hoping to purchase its products. But before deciding whether to expand their financial services offerings, tech companies must first understand what regulatory obstacles might exist.

“People are kicking the tires,” said Lawrence Kaplan, a bank lawyer of counsel at Paul Hastings. “People are asking questions: What does this entail? Can you get us up to speed if we want to pull the trigger?”

In the spirit of helping to shepard financial innovation, the OCC earlier this year created a national fintech charter that financial technology (and big tech) companies can use to circumvent certain restrictions, easing their transition into the financial-services business.

The charter, Clozel notes, was adopted after an aggressive lobbying campaign by large tech companies. One of the most logical applications for leveraging the vast troves of personal data routinely harvested by firms like Facebook and Amazon would be intermediation – or connecting customers with lenders for a small finder’s fee.

Large technology firms are “really interested in the intermediation piece, where you have access to all that data,” said Paul Nash, the former senior deputy comptroller and chief of staff under Comptroller Thomas Curry, who began discussing the possibility of a fintech charter early last year. “All of them are thinking about it.”

The next lobbying objective for big tech is to convince regulators to force banks to provide access to their financial data through an Application Programming Interface, or API, that would allow tech companies like Amazon to create almost instantaneous connections to banks’ transaction processing networks, allowing them to take over more consumer-facing businesses.

In summary, while many a think piece has been written about financial services companies and banks trying to become more like technology firms, the irony is that tech firms are also trying to be more like banks.

“There's been lots of interest by financial services firms in technology companies and fintech companies,” said Kevin Petrasic, a partner at White & Case. “Some tech firms are now looking in the other direction.”

In other words, it’s only a matter of time before Amazon Prime customers will be able to make purchases on Amazon’s marketplace using an Amazon credit card.


philipat NotApplicable Thu, 10/05/2017 - 19:39 Permalink

But, but, but...all these tech firms have "assured" us time and again that our personal data is only ever used in anonymous ways to direct advertising "of more personal relevance" or as metadata? It seems to me that "linking customers to lenders for a small finders fee" necessitates providing personal data? Lenders don't lend to metadata?On an aside, would it not make more sense for Amazon as a strategy to get directly into Financial services itself more directly or develop an Amazon crypto? The more competition against the TBTF's the better?

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The Juggernaut philipat Thu, 10/05/2017 - 20:58 Permalink

Amazon already has a credit card!!!  Its included in your Amazon Prime membership.  5% points back on Amazon purchases.  They're making it compelling.  In terms of taking over the banking industry... no.  Partnering yes.  UBS is probably the leaders in the Fintech space for global players https://www.ubs.com/magazines/innovation/en/into-the-future/2017/bankin… http://www.businessinsider.com/ask-ubs-lets-people-ask-amazons-echo-fin…  

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SurfinUSA NotApplicable Fri, 10/06/2017 - 04:42 Permalink

Sam Walton started buying community banks in surrounding towns beginning in 1961.  He consolidated all operations into Arvest Bank in Bentonville, Arkansas in 1986.  It now has 230 branches in Arkansas, Kansas, Oklahoma, and Missouri. Arvest Bank's Chairman of the Board is Jim Walton, son of Sam Walton.  The bank is privately owned and does not disclose financial information.

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LOL123 Thu, 10/05/2017 - 19:01 Permalink

 "A group of companies that includes Google, Facebook and Amazon recently formed a lobbying group to help them explore the feasibility of entering businesses like lending and loan-intermediation."Lol so this is what the consolidated NWO will look like before they confiscate your property and all rights under " Jewish communists".... At least it will have a smiley face on it.

theprofromdover Thu, 10/05/2017 - 19:02 Permalink

Of course they all want to be banks.Where do you think the original banks came from?Greedy people wanting more wealth.He wants the logistics as well, that will backfire on him too.

Robert Trip Thu, 10/05/2017 - 19:09 Permalink

The Fuhrer would have simply taken these CEO's out back and shot or shipped out to Palestine.Germany prospered after the bankers were brought to heel.Most of them were granted free safe passage with all of their belongings and treasure to Palestine, up until War broke out.The Fuhrer simply wanted them out of the country.

Spectre Thu, 10/05/2017 - 19:30 Permalink

"In other words, it’s only a matter of time before Amazon Prime customers will be able to make purchases on Amazon’s marketplace using an Amazon credit card." Hell I've had an AMZN card for years......

VWAndy Thu, 10/05/2017 - 21:06 Permalink

 He knows how much fiat magic is needed to keep his boat a floatin and its a big pile. What with them getting into the grocery buis. lol Talk about faulty logic. In a hand to mouth society nobody is going to wait three days for food. fucking duh! Oh yea he needs a huge pile of credit or its kaboom time.