Trump Hints At War With North Korea: "Sorry, But Only One Thing Will Work"

When we commented on this morning's Trump tweetstorm, in which he covered everything from the fake (and not so fake) media, to RNC donors, to reaching out to Democrats on Obamacare repeal, to "late night" comedians and their "one-sided coverage" of Trump, we said that Trump has yet to make a comment on the most cryptic topic of the last week,  his repeated suggestions that the current situation is a "calm before the storm."

Moments ago, he may have done just that, when in his latest pair of tweets, Trump ominously suggested that following 25 years of failed diplomacy with North Korea, there is "only one thing that will work."

"Presidents and their administrations have been talking to North Korea for 25 years, agreements made and massive amounts of money paid hasn't worked, agreements violated before the ink was dry, makings fools of U.S. negotiators. Sorry, but only one thing will work!"

The tweets prompted profoundly existential questions such as this one:

While Trump did not specify what that "one thing" is (at least not yet), it stands to reason that the president is referring to some sort of military intervention, i.e. war, which of course would most likely prompt a retaliation by North Korea, one which according to the 38 North website could result in over 2 million fatalities and nearly 8 million injuries.

For those who missed it, here again is "What Would A North Korean Nuclear Attack Look Like?"

Reports that North Korea is planning to test an ICBM capable of reaching the US west coast opened a trapdoor under stocks this morning, suggesting that investors are taking president’s ominous warnings about “the calm before the storm” seriously.

But in the unlikely event that you’re not sufficiently terrified already, researchers at Johns Hopkins have sought to quantify the horrifying consequences of a North Korean nuclear strike in a new research report published by the university’s 38th Parallel project.

The US carrying out any military option raises a significant risk of military escalation by the North, including the use of nuclear weapons against South Korea and Japan. According to the calculations presented below, if the “unthinkable” happened, nuclear detonations over Seoul and Tokyo with North Korea’s current estimated weapon yields could result in as many as 2.1 million fatalities and 7.7 million injuries.

In the report, author Michael Zagurek calculates that an all-out nuclear strike launched by North Korea against Tokyo or Seoul could kill as many as 2.1 million people and injure another 8 million. Combined, the number of dead and injured would equal 10% of the South Korean population – affirming that a nuclear strike by the North would be – by a considerable margin - the single deadliest attack in human history. By comparison, the US killed a combined 120,000 Japanese civilians when dropped nuclear bombs over Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

To hear Zagurek tell it, investors and ordinary citizens alike are underestimating the likelihood of a nuclear conflict. As Zagurek explains, tipping the world into a potentially civilization conflict could result from an accidental miscalculation by either side. In the most likely scenario, an accidental miscalculation during a missile or nuclear test in the Pacific impacts US military assets in Guam, triggering an overwhelming military response by the US.

With the North Korean regime fearing the imminent destruction of its nuclear arsenal, as the logic goes, the Kim regime would fire off all 25 of its nukes – at least, that was the number upon which Zagurek based his calculations – at either Japan or Seoul.

But ruling out the possibility of an accident like that described above, how much longer can North Korea and the US trade threats before a military conflict becomes inevitable?

If the status quo is unacceptable and diplomacy has been ineffective, then at what point do military responses become probable?  The tension between North Korea, its neighbors and the United States are now extremely high, antagonized further by bombastic exchanges between the US and DPRK during the United Nations General Assembly meetings and continued tweets from Trump. History is replete with “rational actors” grossly miscalculating, especially in crisis situations. It is possible that another North Korean nuclear test—especially if detonated in air or under water—an ICBM test, or a missile test that has the payload impact area too close to US bases in Guam for example, might see Washington react with force. This could include such options as attempting to shoot down the test missiles or possibly attacking North Korea’s missile testing, nuclear related sites, missile deployment areas or the Kim Regime itself. The North Korean leadership might perceive such an attack as an effort to remove the Kim family from power and, as a result, could retaliate with nuclear weapons as a last gasp reaction before annihilation. Therefore, it is worth reviewing the consequences if the “unthinkable” happened.

The following graphs show the results of Zagurek's calculations for different-sized nuclear payloads:

Here’s a map of Seoul showing four possible blast areas from a 250 kt airbust detonation – 12+ psi, 5-12 psi, 2-5 psi, 1-2 psi…

And the four possible blast areas for Tokyo…

With Sarah Huckabee Sanders telling reporters that President Donald Trump’s ominous hints about a coming “storm” should be taken seriously, it’s possible that a breaking point could be approaching…

…then again, Trump is fond of bluffing. Meanwhile, Steve Bannon’s surprising admission that there is “no attractive military solutions” for dealing with North Korea that wouldn't result in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people in Seoul within 30 minutes due to conventional weapons fire continue to haunt the administration...

Comments

SloMoe Sat, 10/07/2017 - 16:04 Permalink

Will Trump stand for the national anthem, as he pushes the button?"And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air"Limit-up Sunday night...

Perimetr SloMoe Sat, 10/07/2017 - 16:09 Permalink

North Korea can make Japan uninhabitable by destroying the Japanese nuclear power plants located on the west coast of Japan.  Think Fukushima times 50.  Radiation from destroyed reactors and spent fuel pools would be blown across Japan by the prevailing winds.If you want to look at prompt effects from nuclear detonations, the nuclear firestorm is much more deadly than blast.On a clear day, a 250 kiloton detonation above Tokyo would ignite a mass fire covering more than 60 square miles in area. see http://www.nucleardarkness.org/nuclear/nuclearexplosionsimulator/There would be no survivors in the fire zone.See Lynn Eden's article, "City on Fire" for details: http://www.nucleardarkness.org/web/cityonfire/

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Slack Jack beemasters Sat, 10/07/2017 - 20:00 Permalink

Engdahl says Kim Jong Un is false opposition.

Engdahl says that Kim Jong Un lived in Switzerland from 1991 until 2000. He attended the Liebefeld Steinhölzli school in Köniz near Bern. The strongest hint that Kim Jong Un is a "Pentagon" puppet and not a communist (Chinese) puppet is that he had China's best friend in Pyongyang, Jang Sung-taek, executed. He also ordered the systematic execution of all other members of Jang's family including children and grandchildren (and others that were considered too close to China).

Other hints are that he is usefully (to the US) provocative and doesn't seem to listen to China.

Engdahl also thinks North Korea is an Pentagon Vassal State, but it seems more likely that Kim Jong Un is indeed a "Pentagon" man but that North Korea is (i.e., will be treated as) an enemy state.

https://journal-neo.org/2016/11/01/north-korea-is-an-pentagon-vassal-st…

Remember: The first rule for fighting a (real) war is to place your own puppet as the leader of the enemy.

Also, one should not forget that Trump, Obama, Bush and Clinton are all Jews.

http://www.preearth.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=630

http://mileswmathis.com/trump.pdf

And as an example of how real wars are fought,....

Proof that Adolf Hitler was a double agent.

http://www.preearth.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=1174

It seems pretty weird when you first read it, but its clearly true.

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flapdoodle Slack Jack Sat, 10/07/2017 - 21:01 Permalink

Of course, it probably weighs heavily on Kim Jong Un's mind the fate of the last "Pentagon" puppet Saddam Hussein...

I'll go with Chinese (& Russian) puppet on this one...

Kim Jong Un is keeping the peace in Ukraine and Iran by his bluster since the US can't really fight or afford a two/three front anymore, even with the Fed conjuring up dollars out of thin air at the drop of a hat...

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Escrava Isaura Slack Jack Sun, 10/08/2017 - 03:30 Permalink

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svayambhu108: He is the useful idiot, the election was influenced by foreign players but it wasn't Russia You got the first part ‘somewhat’ right, the second totally wrong. Mark Lambert: Its always there in a democracy its just a matter of what is popular, as a society becomes divided due to inequality the right increases and so the politicians swing right to get elected or right wing politicians become more popular, the left see this as populism when it is just normal politics. Democracies only work when the population are thinking logically and positively once thought becomes anxiety based then they begin to fail, they slide right and the end result is a military government. Many can see this now but have no idea how to fix the problem it begins with understanding anxiety and then treating it in self, metacognition may be the answer an ability to turn off anxiety we will see. https://www.quora.com/Where-does-populism-come-from  

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Escrava Isaura shovelhead Sun, 10/08/2017 - 08:47 Permalink

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Simplistic view, as in the core of conservatism. Life is much more complicated than that. Personally, and as a liberal, I don’t favor fighting ‘these tactics’ over transgender issues this openly, but I can understand their frustration of how slow most of our society moves. Now if you are libertarian, which most of you are not, won’t favor any type of statue or state because those would be authoritarian structures.  

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SybilDefense Slack Jack Sun, 10/08/2017 - 10:24 Permalink

At least that will be one campaign promise he will accomplish.  "we will fight for Isreal", which brought campaign trail cheers after Obama put the snyde on Nuttinyahoo's prior US visit, causing a stir and in effect strengthening the next president's pro isreal resolve (most likely "as intended", and directed by the puppet masters of all recent US prezzys)

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The Wizard flapdoodle Sun, 10/08/2017 - 08:29 Permalink

The Art of War, Sun Tzu.When one uses the term Pentagon does it mean Deep State or its oppostion to it? Does it include the rogue CIA and NSA? So long as the petrodollar is in control, the Pentagon can use deception more effectively than other countries. The nation alignments Russia and China are constructing have the old guard concerned and they constantly need to stir up the pot. Kimmy is a perfect tool.The battle, at this stage, is a currency war. The question is what will the old guard banksters do if they lose their grip of control. They do control the U.S. military, and most of the "terrorist" groups at this time.

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AGuy D.T.Barnum Sat, 10/07/2017 - 16:41 Permalink

" he is just trying to bait something and talk shit. Walk loudly and carry a flaccid stick."

And start a nuclear war in the process. NK is already boxed in, and like a cornered animal it will fight with every means possible since it doomed if it does nothing. NK would rather go out with a Bang than with a Whimper.

When Rex quits then you know War isn't far off. I think Rex will do what ever he can, but once Trumpet & neocons decide to move, I believe Rex will quit since there is no point sticking around.

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mkkby AGuy Sun, 10/08/2017 - 00:33 Permalink

Why should Trump give a shit about yellow niggers in NK/SK/Japan?

Stomp out Kim before he's able to attack the US mainland or give a nuke to terrorists.

As for japan, after 7 years the fuku spent fuel pools ARE STILL too low to survive another tsunami. WTF are they waiting for? Move it to high ground, assholes. It could happen tomorrow and you did nothing to prevent the destruction of Tokyo.

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AGuy mkkby Sun, 10/08/2017 - 05:27 Permalink

"Stomp out Kim before he's able to attack the US mainland or give a nuke to terrorists."

A war with NK will likely cause WW3. Nukes very likely will be used in the NK. War with NK is like playing Russian Nuclear Roulette.

There is no point in the US starting another war that it underestimates or can't win. Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen. When does it end? Never.

Enough with the stupid wars. My guess is that mkkby won't be one of the US solders fighting in the war. Another Armchair general.

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garcam123 D.T.Barnum Sat, 10/07/2017 - 16:51 Permalink

It's like with Meliana......assualt with a dead weapon. These crazy fucks are going to destrpy the fucking world playing soldier.  I hope the NORKS get these pieces of shit with anthrax or someting the acts slowly and with lots of pain.  I hope they see their families die in front of thier eyes.....Just what they deserve.....rotten cocksuckers!And mr. shit for brains president, I have no respect for you you rotten lying cunt.  You better step the fuck back asshole!I don't give a fuck.....I'm an old man and I've had a GREAT run of it!  So FUCK YOU!

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Nostradumbass garcam123 Sat, 10/07/2017 - 18:22 Permalink

It's funny.Here my wife and I are on the west coast of the US in the target zone of DPRK's stated missile range and you know what - we just don't GAF anymore. We don't know or care about what Trump is doing (seems to be as owned by j00ze as every US pResident has been in memory) even though we voted for him. We know he was probably just playing us, but it was literally the lesser of two evils I suppose between him and Hillary. Voting is for fools it always turns out - unless we can rid ourselves of the parasite within all of our public and private institutions in White European founded nations.So now we say fuck it all. Let the people have the world coming to them through their own ignorance and lack of care.We will live out our lives as we like and fart in earth's general direction on our way out. 

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