US Suspends All Non-Immigrant Visa Services In Turkey

On Friday, we reported that in a move that looks suspiciously like retaliation, Turkish police on Wednesday arrested a local employee of the US embassy in Istanbul and charged him with espionage and trying to overthrow the government. The arrest stemmed from the man’s alleged support for Erdogan's scapegoat for "fill-in-the-blank", US-based Cleric Fettulah Gulen, who was blamed for 2016's fake coup attempt and pretty much everything else that's wrong in Turkey.

Predictably, the US government slammed the crackdown, with embassy officials telling the WSJ that “these allegations are wholly without merit" adding that “baseless, anonymous allegations against our employees undermine and devalue this longstanding partnership."

And, in a move that suspiciously looks like retaliation to Turkey's earlier retaliation, on Sunday afternoon the U.S. Embassy in Turkey said in statement on its official twitter account that "recent events have forced the United States Government to reassess the commitment of the Government of Turkey to the security of U.S. Mission facilities and personnel" and as a result "in order to minimize the number of visitors to our Embassy and Consulates while this assessment proceeds, effective immediately we have suspended all non-immigrant visa services at all U.S. diplomatic facilities in Turkey. "

Until this latest, and most severe deterioration in relations, the American embassy had repeatedly railed against unsubstantiated claims made against Washington in the pro-Erdogan press, including of a US hand in the failed coup which the United States has always denied.

Just like in the Kremlin, Turkish officials had expressed hope of a new page in Ankara-Washington relations under US President Donald Trump. But ties strained after members of Erdogan’s security detail were indicted by US authorities after beating up protesters during an official visit by Erdogan earlier this year. Meanwhile American pastor Andrew Brunson, who ran a church in the western city of Izmir, has been held by Turkish authorities since October 2016 on charges of being a member of Gulen’s group. Erdogan suggested last month that Turkey could release him in exchange for Gulen but Washington showed little interest in the proposal.

The US embassy said that the United States will “continue to engage” with Ankara to ensure its employees and US citizens are accorded “due legal process.”

Comments

TeethVillage88s 07564111 Sun, 10/08/2017 - 14:56 Permalink

Let's see

- $75 Trillion in Current Debt & Liabilities
- $20 Trillion in Federal Debt
- $4 Trillion Annual Federal Budget
- $1 Trillion a year for MIC, DHS
- $1.5 Trillion for Medicare & Medicaid
- $1 Trillion a year for Social Security
- $40 Trillion in Stocks/Equities
- $80 Trillion in Bond Market
- $70 Billion a year in Welfare
- 40 Million people on Welfare
- 100 Billion US People not working
- 8 Million Elderly on Adult Care Welfare/SSI
- Pension Problems... $1 Trillion?
- Bankrupt cities and states, PR, IL, Chicago, Detroit, Hartford

Negative - 780 Billion Trade Balance

http://www.economist.com/node/21604509

Trade balance Current-account balance Currency units Budget balance Interest rates
Country latest 12 months, $bn latest 12 months, $bn % of GDP, 2016* Feb 16th, per $ year ago, per $ % of GDP 2016* 3-month latest 10-year government bonds, latest
United States -750.1Dec

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CatsPaw Conscious Reviver Mon, 10/09/2017 - 03:46 Permalink

Honestly "how many people are working" is secondary to how much stuff is being produced.If we had 100% uneployment and we still had enough food, cars, homes and whatever I dont know if anyone would care. Problem is the transitions from human workers (aka slaves btw) to robot workers is not easy.That being said, its not helping that the governemnt thinks they can 

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CatsPaw Conscious Reviver Mon, 10/09/2017 - 03:46 Permalink

Honestly "how many people are working" is secondary to how much stuff is being produced.If we had 100% uneployment and we still had enough food, cars, homes and whatever I dont know if anyone would care. Problem is the transitions from human workers (aka slaves btw) to robot workers is not easy.That being said, its not helping that the governemnt thinks they can do better or well... anything well than the free market.

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Vageling Badsamm Sun, 10/08/2017 - 15:39 Permalink

Nukes? You mean those the Americans "lend" to us? Nah, you must mean they geographically stashed for  their own convenience.  They move around in some states... Nations, you get me. Some countries they have their permanent place. It's useless to us. Not without the USG. Bragging toys with compliments of the USG. Costly. France and the UK have the bad-ass toys on their own discretion. 

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Lost My Shorts sudzee Sun, 10/08/2017 - 18:17 Permalink

Let's see if I understand:Russia props up Assad in Syria, while Turkey bitterly opposes him.  That makes Turkey and Russia natural allies.The US favors moderate rebels in Syria who don't really exist, and opposes everyone else except possibly Gulen.Turkey hates the Kurds, the Arabs, Gulen, the US, and its own imminent future as a failed state.  They shot down a Russian aircraft a couple of years ago and the Russian ambassador to Turkey was assasinated last year.  So now they buy Russian missiles.I'ts all so clear.  I am sure glad we are involved in that region.

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DEMIZEN HenryHall Sun, 10/08/2017 - 14:50 Permalink

obviously, they have the permission to operate on the ground. There are several obscure nato countries like belgium canada and uk flying in syria without any permissions but not turkey.i think there is another reason maybe avoid the israel-turkey air skirmishes, but could be trivial like you said just to avoid any aditional complexity

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HenryHall pynky01 Sun, 10/08/2017 - 14:37 Permalink

Ataturk's Turkey is history. Turkey is now a de facto Muslim country - so of course it can't be trusted - that much is obvious.Turkey is still useful however. And, until now, available.The big question is - How will Turkey retaliate? Perhaps by expelling all non-immigrant Americans from Turkey.

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Conscious Reviver blue51 Sun, 10/08/2017 - 20:39 Permalink

Interesting. Thanks. This is good too.http://www.moonofalabama.org/2017/10/syria-erdogan-afraid-of-entering-i…""A recent video shows a group of HTS maniacs attacking an outpost like professional soldiers. They are equipped with AT-4 anti-tank missiles, 60mmm mortars, light machine guns and Milkor grenade launcher. They have good uniforms, fairly new boots and ammo carrier belts. This is not equipment captured from the Syrian army or second hand stuff from some former eastern-block country. It is modern "western" stuff. These folks still have some rich sponsor and excellent equipment sources.Russia has in recent weeks extensively bombed al-Qaeda positions in Idleb. Turkish intelligence may have helped with that. But AQ still has a very decent fighting force. The Turkish supported forces are likely no match for well equipped and battle hardened al-Qaeda fighters.Turkey had for nearly six years supplied and pampered al-Qaeda in Syria. The group has many relations and personal within Turkey. The Astana agreement now obligates Turkey to fight HTS. Erdogan sits in a trap he set up himself. Should it come to a conflict between HTS and Turkish forces in Syria, the fight would soon cause casualties in Ankara and Istanbul.

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Son of Captain Nemo Sun, 10/08/2017 - 14:35 Permalink

We'll know Turkey and Saudi Arabia are "LEGIT" when they tell Yankee Jewdle to pack his bags and all that 65 years of accumulated "hardware" (pointed in every direction) for home, making it both public and personal "not to let the door hit that fat lard ass" on the way out!

TeethVillage88s Sun, 10/08/2017 - 14:48 Permalink

Well Turkey tortured some folks to get the truth... is there doubt?

"... claims made against Washington in the pro-Erdogan press, including of a US hand in the failed coup which the United States has always denied".

Brazen Heist Sun, 10/08/2017 - 15:04 Permalink

"recent events have forced the United States Government to reassess the commitment of the Government of Turkey to the security of U.S. Mission facilities and personnel" Translation: The Turks don't seem to like our imperial presence on their soil, nor our arming of the Kurds next door.Which seems fair if you ask me. Time to unwind the empire, all those imperial bases are a huge waste of money, doing the bidding of Zionists and military racketeers bent on full spectrum megalomania. What for? Who in the 99% fucking cares. Better focus resources at home. America just doesn't understand the Middle East, it simply isn't good at it; doesn't "get it". Enough evidence has accumulated to support this fact.Putin can do what America hasn't been able to do in decades, in a matter of months.Who else in the Middle East maintains good relations with Israel, Iran, Syria, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, China, Iraq, Egypt, Qatar....because America certainly can't. It's Russia of course. The US might want to learn a few tricks off Putin, rather than fall for cheap fucking propaganda on the level of first graders, and call him names.Russia "gets it", they have a good policy plus without all the stupid trash talk. This is pragmatism that can deliver peace, cooperation and security in the Middle East. America can't.

Volkodav Latitude25 Sun, 10/08/2017 - 15:38 Permalink

     if someone told that Iranian Intellignce learned of planned coup,     that Erdogan had been personally targeted,     contacted info to Russia, which alerted Erdogan near too late, his flight     approached by two fighter aircraft of coup control, which then found     themselves painted by Russian radar, backed away and ran,     would you believe such?  or does sound fiction?     which is more interested, fiction or truth? 

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OliverAnd Volkodav Sun, 10/08/2017 - 21:27 Permalink

A loud bird told me that the Russians now a days have allied with the Turks because they didn't get enough Turkish 'sausage' during the Ottoman Empire.  The Russian Christian Orthodox church and its followers are all becoming Muslims in order to honor their allies from Turkey and Iran.  The Turks of Chechnya are ecstatic.

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Maestro Maestro Sun, 10/08/2017 - 15:05 Permalink

Fuck the Israelis and fuck the Americans, Erdogan.

I don't know what your actual understanding with them is, but you would not be acting in your or your country's interests any longer by accommodating the Americans in any shape or form.

Erdogan,

If you don't kick the pieces of shit AMERICANS out of the Incirlik airbase NOW, I cannot take anything you say at face value.

And neither will anybody else, including your "great friends" the Americans and their idols, the Jews and the Freemasons.

I'm tired of telling you the same shit over and over again.

Nothing personal. Only reality.

HenryHall Sun, 10/08/2017 - 15:09 Permalink

> Who else in the Middle East maintains good relations with Israel, Iran, Syria, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, China, Iraq, Egypy, Qatar....because America certainly can't. It's Russia of course.And how does Russia achieve that?By being open with people is how. No hidden agendas. US will never ever copy that.