Erdogan Tells US "We Don't Need You"

Amid the escalating visa and arrest crisis between Ankara and Washington, President Recep Tayyip Erdogan decided to pour some more gasoline on the fire, and said on Thursday that if the U.S. does not accept Turkey the way it is "then we do not need you", and blamed the ongoing diplomatic dispute on a US ambassador "who doesn't know his place."

"We are not a tribal state. We are the state of the Republic of Turkey and you will accept it. If you don’t, then sorry but we do not need you,” Erdogan said quoted by Hurriyet, addressing a meeting of provincial governors in the capital Ankara.

Calling on Washington to “return to reason,” Erdogan repeated his claim that it was U.S. Ambassador to Ankara John Bass who prompted the current crisis. "Let me be very clear, the person who caused this is the ambassador here. It is unacceptable for the United States to sacrifice a strategic partner to an ambassador who doesn't know his place," Erdogan said as quoted by Reuters.

“What a shame if the great United States of America is being governed by an ambassador in Ankara. Because this is the position they are holding. They should have said, ‘You cannot treat my strategic ally this way, you cannot act this way.’ But they couldn't say this," he said, as quoted by Anadolu Agency.

Erdogan’s comments came a day after Ambassador Bass stated that the decision for visa suspension was taken by the U.S. government, which also confirmed that the decision was taken in coordination with the State Department, the White House and the National Security Council. “Our ambassadors tend not to do things unilaterally,” State Department spokesperson Heather Nauert said on Oct. 10. Nevertheless, the Turkish president again claimed that it was Bass who prompted the current visa suspension crisis.

Erdogan continued his angry tirade, stating that "the decision taken by the U.S. Consulate and the statements made after it are not related to the truth or reality. A junta within the American bureaucracy that is related to the previous administration aims to sabotage relations between the new administration and Turkey."

In what has become a recurring event, Ankara and Washington are drifting ever deeper into their worst bilateral crisis in years after U.S. Istanbul Consulate official Metin Topuz was arrested last week, prompting the U.S. to announce on Oct. 8 that it has stopped issuing non-immigrant visas in Turkey. In return, Ankara imposed tit-for-tat measures implementing the same measures.

Separately, Erdogan once again criticized Washington’s hesitation to sell arms to Turkey, while instead providing arms to the “terrorist organization”, referring to the Kurds, for free. He also said Ankara will stand behind its decision to mutually suspend visa services with Washington “if the U.S. secretary of state and the president defend the ambassador’s step.”

“Turkey has acted based on the principle of reciprocity, following unjust and non-proportional steps taken against our citizens with the suspension of visa applications. Turkey is never a party that extends a problem,” Erdo?an added.

“Our wish for our interlocutors to return to reason and calm, abandoning steps that would harm our friendship and alliance,” he said.

Erdogan also stated that the detention process of the U.S. consulate officer Topuz “is ongoing within the constitutional framework.”

“The legal process on the individual working at the U.S. Istanbul mission as a local personnel, who is the citizen of our country and does not hold any diplomatic immunity, is ongoing within legal practices, agreements and the Vienna Convention,” he said.

The first US consulate employee arrest took place last week, when Turkish citizen Metin Topuz was detained. The pro-government newspaper Daily Sabah reported that he was accused of “facilitating the escape” of “known Gulenists” from Turkey. Topuz's arrest prompted the US embassy in Turkey to announce it was suspending “all non-immigrant visa services at all US diplomatic facilities,” stating that “recent events” had “forced the United States government to reassess the commitment of the government of Turkey to the security of US mission facilities and personnel...”

There is yet some hope that relations between the two nations will improve. Overnight Bloomberg reported that representatives from U.S. and Turkey will meet in coming days to try and reach a solution to the mutual suspension of visas, Turkey’s state-run Anadolu Agency says, citing Deputy Prime Minister Bekir Bozdag. The deputy PM also said that there is no obstacle to detained U.S. consulate worker’s access to lawyer, and added that Turkey-U.S. ties strong enough to overcome visa crisis.

That said, a few more similar outbursts by Erdogan, and ties between the two nations will be irreperably destroyed.


Manthong The_Juggernaut Thu, 10/12/2017 - 11:47 Permalink

 Shutter Incirlik… Quit NATO… Then we can bomb Turkey, too. 
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The Military/Industrial/Security Complex will love that.  

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garcam123 HopefulCynical Thu, 10/12/2017 - 12:14 Permalink

The poor Kurds, who I believe to be honorable people, are going to be turned into the next humanitarian crisis  They are being used just like every other US ally in history.  They have to know that they are going to be turned into burnt hamburger if they continue to lay in the bed with the great whore!Kurds, you're not going to get your state......probably ever, but if your accept the whore into your will surely pay the price.....harken Iraq, Afganistan, Save your people and reject the whore!They have no love or freedom for you......only death and destruction!

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garcam123 Volkodav Thu, 10/12/2017 - 15:48 Permalink

and you know????????????I know they are some bad boys on the battlefield.I know they want their own state.I know they are being armed by the great whore Amerika, not MY America by a fucking long shot.I also know that the entire ME stands against their desire for their own state and know they are goind to be attacked and destroyed by every country around them.And I know the great whore doesn't giveone flying fuck about them, just bodies of people to hold weapons for their whore paymasters.Same old same old from the great whores in IsreAmerika! and you know fucking what Eienstien???????????

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garcam123 business as stusual Thu, 10/12/2017 - 16:00 Permalink

The world is starting to see the great Jezabel IsrAmerika is the real whore on the planet and they are turning away from their cheap dog-shit promises to form alliances with countries that possibly have a future if they can dump this broke whore bitch IsrAmerika.Like most Americans, they probably don't hate Mr. & Mrs. American families like the McDonalds and the Henrys who live on Anywhere St., but boy do they HATE the IsrAmerika government almost as much as common Americans hate those criminal fuckers.......I ain't a god guy, but I pray there is an eternal hell for the likes of this wienstien pig and the shit he runs with and all of the murdeous filthy thieving, scheming political cocksuckers who live off the spoils of the treachery and murder!

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therealestg9 Rapunzal Thu, 10/12/2017 - 12:11 Permalink

Not exactly a correct comparison. The "NWO" at the time of the World Wars didn't really exist, it only existed in the form of American/British/French industrial/economic interests. Which were naturally opposed to German and then later Soviet industry.No, what the NWO are trying to destroy is autonomy, independence, and nationalism. This is true especially in the US, where Trump has been placed in power to make the "nationalists" look bad in the eyes of the dumbed down public. But the same forces are at play in other parts of the world too. Anywhere you see people who are united in terms of culture and proudly nationalistic, you'll find the "NWO" there to oppose them- best example is Russia.

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Rapunzal Barney Fife Thu, 10/12/2017 - 12:39 Permalink

It's all by design, the American people are not like their foreign policy and politicians. Far from it, the majority understands the injustices. It's the silent majority who is making ends meet. I'm not completely letting them of the hook on the responsibility since they are part of the system. But if you see the money, energy etc. that is used to brainwash them is incredible. For 70 years flourided water, that's unbelievable. The nazis used it in the drinking water of concentration camps. Kept the inmates calm. Since WW2 it was clear the US will be used to consolidate the power of the NWO, but in turn the US will be destroyed. The new system will be born like the Phoenix. Neofeudalism is awaiting the people, who will survive the next depopulation.

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Scanderbeg tmosley Thu, 10/12/2017 - 14:31 Permalink

Yep, the Turks are vermin and enemies of the west. They always have been.Erdogan has single handedly destroyed all the progress Mustafa Kemal made in civilizing that barbaric country.The US doesn't need good relations with Turkey since the only purpose of it was to point missiles at Russia. Even the Libfags in Europe are horrified by Erdogan and Turkish membership in the EU is dead.Hopefully one day these filthy animals will be expelled and we can worship in peace at the Hagia Sophia again.

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Omen IV Looney Thu, 10/12/2017 - 11:48 Permalink

The demise of the relationship with Turkey will go done as Obama biggest failure in 8 years -He has many - but this will completely unravel the METhe Kurds will not stand - The Kurds are surrounded by those who see the opportunity to get the USA out of the ME for a long long time. Iran / Turkey both armed on the ground powerhouses coupled with Syria / Hezbollah and the glue to hold it all together long tem  - Russia - The Premier diplomats in the world who are beleivable and respected for their word - Not the USASA will have no choice but change their posture permanentlyThe Entire European Continent will sooner or later follow as they realize they are the biggest loser in this debacle - Merkel must go immediately

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A Sentinel Omen IV Thu, 10/12/2017 - 18:23 Permalink

Do you believe that obama said "oops!" or feels anything other than satisfaction with what he wrought? I think that his guiding principle was always: "what will damage the us, the west and Christendom the most?"

And yeah - I do mean to include Christianity and its geography.

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Badsamm Looney Thu, 10/12/2017 - 12:20 Permalink

Was it a coup or did he take advantage Turkish history and fake one in order to consolidate power? What aren't we getting from Erdogan, that would make us want to overthrow an allied government? What were the Turkish Generals promising?

If it was a coup, the only thing that seems to make sense is that Israel and the US had decided to give the Kurds a free state and were ready to destabilize Turkey, Iraq, and Iran all at the same time.

The problem with this, I can't see the Turkish military going along with it and giving up a single inch of land to anyone and certainly not the mineral rich Kurdistan.

If Iran is the US and Israel's end game, a free Kurdistan next door would be big problems in Tehran but you would have to deal with Turkey first?

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Muddy1 knukles Thu, 10/12/2017 - 11:42 Permalink

And we don't need Turkey.  Let's pull out all US personnel, all military personnel, nukes, radar systems, listening posts, etc.  As we go destroy the bases by plugging sewers with concrete, destroy all electrical sources, and in general F the bases up.  Then  leave. The Germans have been leaving.

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garcam123 UndergroundPost Thu, 10/12/2017 - 12:03 Permalink

Easy question of the day!Because they are wanton murderious, money hungry pigs just like their paymasters the US/Isreali Organized Criminal enterprise.Now they are being thrown to the dogs because the Kurds are being wonderously ass-fucked by their new paymasters.Turkey knows that they are going to have to desteoy the Kurds to get Satan out of the Middle East.  I'll give them 30 days and the SpewS will be out of that airbase and these assholes in Shittington, DC are going to ignite the destruction of mankind.........I at least hope I survive long enough to see Shittington turned to glass.....that would be sweet revenge....somehowIsn't it sad these motherfuckers can do this.....They should all be impaled and set around the pentagram until the crow pick them clean.  Vlad Dracul had a pretty good justice system!Ya know what?I'm ok with it.  This planet has been turned into a 5 gallon bucket sitting on the sidewalk in San Diego full of human shit spreading Hepatitus A.I'm an old fuck and I've had a great run........

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