iPhone X Makers Said To Struggle With Facial Recognition

Two weeks after the WSJ reported that Apple hit a production snag on the iPhone X, specifically as relates to critical components for the new iPhone's facial recognition technology, on Thursday the Nikkei reported that iPhone X manufacturers are still struggling to refine 3-D sensors, especially dot projectors in Apple premium handset’s TrueDepth, according to a tech executives. Following up on the explanation provided by the WSJ at the end of September, the problematic dot projector makes up part of the transmitting module, dubbed "Romeo," of iPhone X's new facial recognition function that allows users to unlock phones and make payments. The receiving module is fittingly named "Juliet."

The Nikkei first reported in September that suppliers were struggling with the production of 3-D sensors for facial recognition, a key - and somewhat controversial feature - of the new iPhone X, the most keenly awaited smartphone this year and is touted as the first major upgrade of Apple's iconic device since iPhone 6. The smartphone is set to go on sale early November, although should production problems persist, delays may be unavoidable.

The Nikkei also notes that the executive's comments were confirmed by Jeff Pu, an analyst with Taipei-based Yuanta Investment Consulting, who also identified the dot projector as the troublesome component holding back mass production of iPhone X.

The struggle for Taiwanese suppliers to churn out iPhone X has led to a year-on-year drop in revenue in September for Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing and Hon Hai Precision Industry, also known as Foxconn Technology Group. According to Nikkei, TSMC's sales in September fell 1.25% from a year-ago to 88.57 billion New Taiwan dollars ($2.93 billion), while Hon Hai's revenue dropped 3.7% to NT$451.04 billion. TSMC is the sole chip supplier for the new iPhone 8 and iPhone X range. Foxconn is the sole assembler for iPhone X, while it splits orders for iPhone 8 Plus with smaller Taiwanese rivals Pegatron and Wistron.

There was some good news: iPhone 8 Plus and iPhone 8 have given major Taiwanese tech companies a boost in the past month, with the 19 local tech companies on the Nikkei's watchlist saw their revenue grow 0.68% year-over-year. The accumulated sales of nine Apple suppliers monitored by the NAR in Taiwan rose 1.85% from the same period in 2016.

For now, there is no reason to panic for the Apple faithful: "Pu stuck to his view voiced late September that iPhone X will enter mass production in mid-October and begin to be shipped from China in the third week of this month. He is, however, cutting his forecast of the volume of iPhone X that will be produced this year, from 40 million units to 36 million."


Looney Thu, 10/12/2017 - 10:43 Permalink

  … iPhone X Makers Said To Struggle With Facial Recognition Because some faces cannot be recognized without the make-up on?   ;-) Looney

FireBrander Urban Roman Thu, 10/12/2017 - 11:59 Permalink

"face recognition is a feature without any practical need."Not only is there little need, it's unwanted in many instances.If I want to QUICKLY check my phone in a PUBLIC SETTING....I DO NOT want to hold it so that it can scan my face; what I really WANT is to just double tap the screen while it's sitting, out of most other peoples site, on my lap.For the OVERWHELMING majority of users, Facial recognition doesn't solve a "problem"; it creates one...

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wisebastard Thu, 10/12/2017 - 10:49 Permalink

i think this is proof that apple is really just another way for the government to violate your rights. just like facebook spies on you apple wants your facial recognition. the technological enslavement of humanity will be disguised as a benefit and people will embrace their servitude

To Hell In A H… Thu, 10/12/2017 - 10:51 Permalink

But they'll still sell it half working, for premium FIAT bucks. I'll have it around a years time, when my daughter upgrades to a new phone and gives the X to me. The poor girl cannot live without the latest I-phone. She is the complete opposite of myself and her mother, to the point I wonder if I'm her dad.

Anteater To Hell In A H… Thu, 10/12/2017 - 12:18 Permalink

Both my kids, the construction worker and the mechanic, spent theirhard-earned bucks for i-pay-for-everything-store i-phones. Incredible!In SEAsia, they gave up i-Phones a year ago for the Chinese version.Having said that, they gave me a discarded i-6 that was pretty sweet.I sold it, got a free LG, then took them out to dinner and a tank of gas.Tomorrow the Grey Aliens arrive on i-Trump's ship, 1,000,000 H-3Bs.And Trump will give them all free i-Phones for Labor Ready call-up.

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trippy64 Thu, 10/12/2017 - 11:52 Permalink

Every new iPhone had "production issues" delaying the release right up through Christmas to show a backlog, and thus "high demand." Nothing to see here.

Anteater trippy64 Thu, 10/12/2017 - 12:07 Permalink

All I know is my FREE LG phone has better hands free mapping thanSiri and the voice recognition is so flawless I scarcely have to touchthe keyboard. Now if it could learn to make a flawless egg souffle!It's so easy to buy a short position on Apple, like candy from a baby!

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kbohip Thu, 10/12/2017 - 13:14 Permalink

I knew they were having problems with it at the unveiling when even the presenter had to use a backup phone when the phone failed to recognize his face and come on.  He had to switch to a backup phone to make it work.  That's a HUGE problem when the one phone you have to know will work perfect before a worldwide audience can't even work right.

milo_hoffman Thu, 10/12/2017 - 14:05 Permalink

Things consumers don't want:- Facial Recognition- Thinner phones that break/bend easy- Glass back phones that break/bend easy- Propietary connectors for charging and dataThings consumers DO want:- heaphone jack- thicker battery that lasts longer even if a bit more weight- A phone made of sturdy materials, that would eliminate the need to ALWAYS have an addon case to keep it from breaking on day 2- standard USB connector for data/charging Apple seems CLUELESS about these basic facts.