"Nothing More Than Ash And Bone" - NorCal Wildfires Now Deadliest In State's History

Over five days, the cluster of wildfires that’ve broken out in California’s wine country have claimed at least 31 lives – making this the deadliest week for wildfires in the state’s history. And with the remains of many incinerated homes still too hot to enter, authorities say that number is likely to climb – perhaps significantly – as elderly residents of the afflicted communities were blindsided by the fires’ ferocity, and many were unable to flee in time.

The average age of the 10 victims whose names have been released is 75, state officials said. The youngest was 57.

Whole neighborhoods have been reduced to smoldering rubble. Meanwhile, an army of firefighters have had little success trying to suppress the flames; the largest conflagrations continue to burn virtually unimpeded. Local firefighters, many of whom have worked for days on end with little or no sleep despite their own homes having burned to the ground, are finally being relieved by reinforcements from out of state, CNN reported.

Sonoma County Sheriff Rob Giordano described the grim reality of the body recovery efforts, which he said had only just begun.

"We're moving into a recovery phase," Sonoma County Sheriff Rob Giordano said. "That is the reality part of it."


Speaking late Thursday, Giordano said that two more bodies had been recovered as search teams moved into areas where people had been reported missing in the wake of the fires.


"We have found bodies almost completely intact, and we have found bodies that were nothing more than ash and bones," Giordano said.

California’s iconic wine country – comprising Sonoma and Napa counties – has been particularly hard hit, as have Mendocino, Yuba, Nevada, Butte and Orange counties. As of late Thursday, 21 fires spanned 300 square miles – up from 8 on Tuesday. Most are still less than 10% contained. So far, more than 3,000 homes and businesses have been destroyed, as NPR reported.

And the unfortunate reality, as one firefighter acknowledged, is that the fires could continue to burn for days, because there’s no end in sight.

"We are not even close to being out of this emergency," said Mark Ghilarducci, director of the state's Office of Emergency Services.

County officials described flying over neighborhoods that had been totally decimated, with not one single structure still standing.

Shirlee Zane, one of the district supervisors for Sonoma County, says she flew over communities that "looked like war zones. They looked like somebody had bombed them."


"The air quality is very dangerous right now," she tells NPR. "It's thick, with brown smoke. People cannot really go outside. It's really not safe. You see a lot of people going around with face masks."

Wayne Peterson of Sonoma described the air as "acrid."


"I'm wearing the mask because I've been here two or three days now, I live here," Petersen was quoted by The Associated Press as saying. "It's starting to really affect my breathing and lungs so I'm wearing the mask. It's helping."

Santa Rosa, a small city that serves as the county seat for Sonoma County, was particularly hard hit. The LA Times reported that officials said they were stunned by the scale of the destruction. An estimated 2,834 homes were destroyed in the city of Santa Rosa alone, along with about 400,000 square feet of commercial space, Santa Rosa Mayor Chris Coursey said in a news conference Thursday afternoon.

Flames left entire neighborhoods and commercial districts in ruins and – in a disturbingly ironic twist – even gutted the city’s new fire station.

State and local officials expressed hope that the milder winds on Wednesday and Thursday would help fire crews contain the flames. But forecasters are now saying that strong nearly hurricane force winds and hot conditions will return on Friday and Saturday.

Though the cause of the fires has not yet been confirmed, the local utility said that the strong winds knocked trees into power lines, which could’ve sparked fires given the dry conditions.


Slack Jack svayambhu108 Fri, 10/13/2017 - 09:26 Permalink

Record-Setting Hurricanes; Record temperatures; Record-Setting Wildfires; ya think it might be global warming?


So, why is the global rise in temperatures so worrisome?

For one thing, as temperatures rise good farmland will become desert (e.g., dust-bowl conditions will probably return to the American Midwest).

Another major problem is sea-level rise.

Have a look at http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/fs2-00/

The U.S. Geological Survey people claim that;

The Greenland ice sheet melting will raise sea-level 6.55 meters (21.5 feet),
the West Antarctica ice sheet melting will raise sea-level 8.06 meters (26.4 feet),
the East Antarctica ice sheet melting will raise sea-level 64.8 meters (212.6 feet),
and all other ice melting will raise sea-level 0.91 meters (3 feet).

For a grand total of about 80 meters (263 feet).

So, what does an 80 meter (263 feet) rise in sea-level mean. Have a look at the following map of the world after an 80 meter rise. It means that over one billion people will have to be resettled to higher ground and that much of the most productive agricultural land will be under water. Fortunately, at current rates, the Greenland ice sheet will take over a thousand years to melt and the Antarctica ice sheet, much longer. However, the greater the temperature rise the faster the ice sheets will melt, bringing the problem much closer. Remember, the huge ice sheet that recently covered much of North America, almost completely melted in only 15,000 years (today, only the Greenland ice sheet, and some other small patches of it, remain). Since then (15,000 years ago), sea-levels have risen about 125 meters (410 feet), only 80 meters to go.

The ice sheets have been continuously melting for thousands of years. What is left of them today, is still melting, and will continue to melt. Human caused global warning will cause this remnant to melt significantly faster. This is a big, big, problem.

For HUGE detailed maps of the "World after the Melt" go to:


Global temperatures are increasing. And by quite a lot each year.

2016 is the hottest year on record for global temperatures.

This is 0.0380 degrees centigrade hotter than the previous record year which was 2015.

0.0380 is a large increase in just one year.

2015 was the hottest year (at that time) for global temperatures.

This was 0.1601 degrees hotter than the previous record year which was 2014.

0.1601 is an absolutely huge increase in just one year (at this rate temperatures would increase by 16 degrees in a century).

2014 was the hottest year (at that time) for global temperatures.

This was 0.0402 degrees hotter than the previous record year which was 2010.


The conspiracy to hide global warming data.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) is given tax money to make global temperature records available to the public. However, certain people at NOAA continually sabotage this aspect of NOAA's mandate. For example, these people have (deliberately) sabotaged the web-page that delivers the temperature records.

Look for yourself:

Go to the page: https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/monitoring-references/faq/anomalies.php scroll down to the The Global Anomalies and Index Data section and click the download button and see what happens. Well, you get the message:

"Not Found. The requested URL /monitoring-references/faq/anomalies-download was not found on this server."

I guess that the 2017 data must be truly horrible if they have to hide it away.


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skbull44 JimmyJones Fri, 10/13/2017 - 09:34 Permalink

What Cash2Riches says is right on. Collapse becomes much more likely when reserves are lacking to deal with stress surges. Archaeologist Jospeh Tainter stressed this in his book The Collapse of Complex Societies. Basically, he argued that:1) human societies are problem-solving organizations;2) sociopolitical systems require energy for their maintenance;3) increased complexity carries with it increased costs per capita;4) investment in sociopolitical complexity as a problem-solving response often reaches a point of declining marginal returns.-humans tend to make use of the easier-to-acquire, -extract, -process, and -distribute resources first and shift to more costlier ones later with no greater returns -as stressors increase, the costs associated with complexity increases over time while the benefits decline; initially at a gradual pace but then much more quickly -the likelihood of collapse increases as excess production and/or surpluses are used to meet currents needs, leaving no reserves when a stress surge arises; this may result in a weakened state that makes society even more vulnerable to future stress-once a society begins experiencing declining marginal returns, collapse becomes more likely and may just require the passage of time -as return on investment in complexity declines, complexity becomes a less attractive option and sections of society opt out via separation or selecting less complex options (collapse, then, can be seen as an economic 'choice' that is not catastrophic but a return to 'normal' conditions of less complexity; much more chaotic and problematic for the 'administrators' of society than the majority of the population--if they can produce their own food)-significant increased costs occur late, just prior to collapse, for a population already experiencing declining marginal returns  Prepare accordingly... https://olduvai.ca

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Geoengineering… JimmyJones Fri, 10/13/2017 - 13:48 Permalink

If you own a central bank and can print whatever you want for whatever you like, then you too can build HAARP facilities all around the world, retrofit airplanes with spray nozzles, and fill them with aluminum/barium/strontium mixed with chemical dispersants that reduce them to nanoparticulate size.  And in doing so, you will become an insane god-like wannabe dick licker controlling the weather, destroying the ozone, poisoning all life, and coating trees with an incendiary dust leading to massive forest fires.http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/geoengineering-is-fueling-firestorm-… SEARCH FOR "GEOENGINEERING DESTROYING OZONE LAYER" __**>>

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Dr_Snooz cherry picker Fri, 10/13/2017 - 11:03 Permalink

Trump could have had war following his Syria strike. McMaster had the troops all ready and his favorite party dress on, but Trump nixed it. Or maybe you missed that coverage? If you want to engage in wild conspiracy theories about Trump, go to one of the MSM outlets and speculate freely. This really isn't the place for ignorance. You'll get called out pretty quick for it.

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DRTexas cherry picker Fri, 10/13/2017 - 12:50 Permalink

The military's job is to kill people and break things.  Especially Marines!  NOT to put out fires.  The National Guard is for responding to state natural desasters or unrest.  Active duty military CANNOT, by law, be deployed in the U.S.We also, as Hillary once wanted, do not help build housing for the poor.Please do not make statements that you have not researched.

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