Did Syria Just Strike An Israeli F-35 Jet

With the assistance of South Front

It looks that the Israeli “demonstration of power” during the recent visit of Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu may have turned into a total failure. On October 16, Shoigu arrived in Israel for meetings with Defense Minister Avigdor Lieberman and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The two were reportedly set to discuss the situation in the region, including Syria, the fight against terrorism, as well as military and technical cooperation.

On the same day, the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) claimed that its warplanes targeted an anti-aircraft battery of the Syrian Air Defense Forces that had launched a missile at Israeli aircraft flying over Lebanon.

“The army targeted the battery with four bombs and, according to the IDF, the battery was damaged to the extent it was no longer operational. The army said the battery targeted was the same that fired at Israeli jets last March, prompting Israel make use of its Arrow anti-missile system for the first time,” the Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported.

The Syrian military confirmed the Israeli strikes and said that they caused “material damage.” But it’s interesting to note that, according to the Syrian Defense Ministry statement, Israeli warplanes violated Syria’s airspace on the border with Lebanon in Baalbek area. The incident took place at 8:51 am local time.

Did the Israeli Air Force intentionally provoke the reaction from the Syrian military in order to justify the strike on the Syrian air defense battery? It wouldn't be the first time.

Furthermore, some pro-Israeli experts and media activists clearly linked the incident with the visit of the Russian defense minister to Tel Aviv saying that it was a nice demonstration of power to the Russian-Iranian-Syrian alliance.

However, something went wrong. According to the available information, the Syrian Defense Forces used its S-200 missile against the Israeli warplane. This Soviet-made missile is the most advanced long range anti-aircraft system operated by the Syrian military. But even in this case, it’s old-fashioned in terms of modern warfare and advances in stealth technology.

Despite this, the Syrian Defense Ministry said in its statement that government forces responded to the violation of the airspace and “directly hit one of the jets, forcing [Israeli aircraft] to retreat” - in contradiction to the Israeli claim that “no hit” was confirmed.

A mere few hours after the missile incident with Syria, Israeli media reported that the Israeli Air Force’s F-35 stealth multirole fighter went unserviceable as a result of an alleged bird collision during a training flight. According to the Times of Israel:

Two storks hit an F-35 fighter jet during a training flight on Tuesday, requiring the plane to undergo maintenance work, the army said.

 

The birds hit the F-35, called the “Adir” in Hebrew, just before it was due to return to the Nevatim air base in the central Negev desert.

However, Israeli sources were not able to show a photo of the F-35 warplane after the “bird collision”. Furthermore, it is not clear if the F-35 can become operational again "in the next few days" - as the Israeli Army's statement claims - because its stealth coating was likely damaged. 

Thus, according to the Israeli version, the warplane reportedly became no longer operational after the bird collision, despite the fact that the F-35 earlier passed the bird strike certification with outstanding results (official info here). The F-35 is the world’s most expensive warplane with its price of development now at about $406.5 billion.

Israel is actively buying the world’s supposedly most advanced fighter, paying about $100 million for each plane.

So what really hit the F-35?

Comments

gladih8r NoDebt Wed, 10/18/2017 - 09:22 Permalink

Passing a bird-strike tests doesn't mean "zero damage" to the aircraft.  It only means that you can still safely get back home.  Any superficial damage would still need to be repaired before the next mission.The odd thing is that if the S-200, being such an old missle system, can track the F-35 with it's radar, what the fuck's the point of the very expensive "stealth" technology built into the F-35?  I mean, Russian missle systems are already several generations ahead of that S-200 platform.

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Joe Trader eforce Wed, 10/18/2017 - 11:46 Permalink

Hate to burst your bubble. "Adversaries have to build a kill chain," said Flatley, a former F-35 pilot. Just because a radar can find an object — and Russian VHF radars can spot F-35s — doesn't mean it can fix, track, target, and consummate that kill chain with a missile hit, he said.So while an infrared search and tracking system could spot an F-35 and give enemy pilots an idea of where it is, it couldn't track it or target it with a missile. This means that the systems Russia and China have spent millions developing provide only a tiny glimpse of the F-35 — systems that may be sunk costs in the grand scheme of things.Meanwhile, as the enemy systems scour the skies for any trace of the F-35, the F-35 sees all of those radar emissions and can pinpoint the air defenses and enemy planes.http://www.businessinsider.com/f-35-russia-china-radar-counter-stealth-…

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Conscious Reviver Shemp 4 Victory Wed, 10/18/2017 - 20:09 Permalink

Re. The Stork Story. The British Army used to do something similar in Northern Ireland durring  The Troubles. When SAS were killed in shoot outs, the Brits would never admit so publicy but they still needed to explain their dead personel with a cover story. So what they'd announce is thay So-and-so and So-and-so just died in a tragic car crash on the Autobahn while in Germany for training.In other news, Iran says they are getting involved in Israeli violations of Syrian air space.https://almasdarnews.com/article/iran-pledges-confront-israel-attack-sy…

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land_of_the_few gladih8r Wed, 10/18/2017 - 09:38 Permalink

Bring out the chicken-gun of doom and its feathery sabot rounds! Tonight, Mr Chicken, you have a special mission. Make peace with your Gods.Chicken gun at a Rolls Royce Trent 500 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nAc7wab-l4Stop trying to be intellectual, lady, your are lobbing poultry into a giant blender!Bird Strikes Jet Engine (GE testing)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jfXX7qppbc

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Ignatius CoolClo Wed, 10/18/2017 - 09:56 Permalink

"Son, do you remember the story your mom and I told you about storks and where babies come from?  Well, that really wasn't the truth because it was a way to talk to you about something difficult before you were mature enough and ready enough to know the truth.  Now, this story out of Israel about their F-35 hitting two storks is kinda the same thing..."

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DRTexas gladih8r Wed, 10/18/2017 - 10:32 Permalink

Assuming the S-200 has thermal tracking ability, stealth technology is only good until the pilot puts the aircraft into afterburner.  If the missiles were already launched and in the vicinity, or on similar coordinates of the aircraft, the timing of the afterburner(extreme burst of heat) could be an unlucky coincidence for the pilot. 

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