In Bizarre Feud, Trump Denies Disrespecting Army Widow As Mother Says President Lies

For the second time in 24 hours, President Trump again pushed back against reports that he crassly told the widow of one of the US Green Berets killed in an Al Qaeda ambush in Niger two weeks ago that her husband “must have known what he signed up for”. In response to a reporter’s question following a press conference with Republican senators that was intended to focus on tax reform, Trump again accused Democratic Rep. Frederica Wilson of lying after she spoke to CNN and the Washington Post about Trump's comments

“I didn’t say what that congresswoman said – didn’t say it at all — she knows it,” Trump told reporters. “I would like her to make the statement again because I did not say what she said."

The comments followed an early  tweet by Trump in which the president claimed Wilson “totally fabricated” her account of the call.

During the subsequent press conference, Trump said he “had a very nice conversation with the woman, the wife, who sounded like a lovely woman.” And yet, as the Hill reports, the president’s denials contradict Wilson’s description of the conversation, as well comments made by the mother of Sgt. La David T. Johnson, who effectively accused Trump of lying when she told WaPo that the president "did disrespect my son" with his condolence call.

"President Trump did disrespect my son and my daughter and also me and my husband," said Cowanda Jones-Johnson.

Trump added in his tweet that he has “proof” that the conversation didn’t proceed as the Congresswoman described, but declined to elaborate.

Wilson had said that the Johnson family was “astonished” by Trump's remarks during the phone call, which Wilson said she heard via a speaker phone while riding in a car with the Johnson family.

Wilson told CNN on Wednesday that Trump is "a sick man" and that his cavalier condolence call left Johnson's widow shaken.

“She was crying the whole time, and when she hung up the phone, she looked at me and said, ‘He didn’t even remember his name.’ That’s the hurting part.”

According to Wilson, Myeshia Johnson said the president didn’t even remember her dead husband’s name.  Adding to the confusion, Wilson responded to Trump by saying she stands by her account of the conversation.

Meanwhile, the White House communications department declined to disclose records of the call. “The President’s conversations with the families of American heroes who have made the ultimate sacrifice are private,” a White House official said in a statement.

Trump made the calls on Tuesday, nearly two weeks after the Oct. 4 attack. The calls followed Trump's claims, which have also caused ripples in the media world, that former President Barack Obama didn’t make condolence calls to the families of slain Americans.

Comments

LetThemEatRand Amaroosta Wed, 10/18/2017 - 14:00 Permalink

"since when did 'he knew what he signed up for' become an insulting statement for military personnel?"Some people would take it as a reasonable statement (similar to "he died doing what he loved"), some probably consider it insensitive to say to a grieving widow.  The only reason this is newsworthy is that Trump has to play a careful game with his base, which includes a lot of military families and flag wavers (see the NFL controversy).  If he's perceived as being insensitive to a grieving military widow, it will be damaging to his support base.  So of course the media will make a circus out of it.  I'd rather they make a circus out of his blatant lies relative to not handing the keys to the Treasury Goldman Sachs and the MIC, but MSM won't touch that because they're just fine with it.

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Escrava Isaura Blankone Wed, 10/18/2017 - 16:10 Permalink

Astounding. Last night we Hedgers were arguing about blacks low IQ. Today we have a black lady telling that the President has a brain disease. Then, here we have his base ‘the Hedgers’ that are incapable of sympathize trying to find excuses. Some even blame Trump to make the call, even that he has too. Every president does that. So, as usual, everyone is focus on the symptoms, forgetting the disease. Wondering what that is? Personality disorder narcissists people are empathy-impaired. They can have empathy sometimes or to some degree, but it is not persistent. Self center narcissist people ‘conservatives’ problem is that their actual empathy would be indistinguishable from the false empathy they project in order to manipulate others.   

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Escrava Isaura Bay of Pigs Wed, 10/18/2017 - 17:04 Permalink

Trump has a well established track record of lies. http://www.politifact.com/personalities/donald-trump/statements/byruling/false/    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/08/22/president-trumps-list-of-false-and-misleading-claims-tops-1000/?utm_term=.4ae85cf28d70    Second, honestly, do we even need a study to demonstrate the correlation between social conservatism, racism and evil? https://www.huffingtonpost.com/floyd-elliot/study-finds-conservatives_b_1235382.html   Who are you kidding?  
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Promethus jcaz Wed, 10/18/2017 - 14:46 Permalink

If Trump was stupid enough to call COWANDA Jones-johnson without recording the call and at least 3 witnesses he's  a brain dead moron. This is the same crowd that heard hands up don't shoot.  

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zuuma swmnguy Wed, 10/18/2017 - 15:01 Permalink

pick any trump tweetstorm. check the timeline.Trump takes on some sacred cow with a tweet/shot.beep beep.  the roadrunner trump takes off near light speed to the next target.along lopes the media coyote jumping in to make the kill.  All media coyote gets is a handfull of dust where the bird once was.Or - like with the NFL - off the cliff into a puff of smoke below.Beep beep! on to the next one.Trollmaster will tweet something about rocket man's hilarious mushroom hairdoo proving he's in deep shit and in the dark... seconds after releasing the phone recording that hopelessly discredits congo-resswoman for the rest of all time.media is worse than squirrel jumping mutts. they are the always-losing coyote.Meanwhile, trump is on track to nominate 150 federal judges using the Reid Nuclear rule. HAHAHAI need more popcorn. 

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ich1baN Sofa King Wed, 10/18/2017 - 15:08 Permalink

She is actually a Bahamian woman from South Florida (mostly Southwest Broward county)... her wiki page suggests she has 100s of thsoe funny little hats (which speaks to her psychopathy), anyone with strange fetishes like that are obvious candiates for the top 1% of 1% psychopath category.Also, she became nationally recognized when she stated that Trayvon was shot b/c of racism (without waiting for evidence or the details of the case to come out).

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MoreFreedom OneStinkyDinky Wed, 10/18/2017 - 13:59 Permalink

Wait for a) Someone in the Trump administration allowing them to retract their statement, and if they don't, b) Trump to release the recording of the call.  Trump will give the liars more and more rope to hang themselves.   I bet he's been holding back, for that very purpose.  Once he shows who the liars are, they'll be so discredited no one will believe them anymore.What hasn't been released is any proof from the congresswoman that she said she has.  Democrats are the ones who keep making up stories without any proof, again and again.  They keep claiming Trump collusion with Putin, and more and mroe evidence surfaces about Obama/Clinton/Putin collusion. 

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Gaius Petronius OneStinkyDinky Wed, 10/18/2017 - 15:17 Permalink

Could you point me to one media article where the wife was on record as saying what the Congresswoman claims?  I haven't seen it yet.  All I've seen is so and so says that the wife says which is third party hearsay.  Until I hear it from the horse's mouth (wife's), this sounds like fake news to me.  Besides that, I can't believe the media thinks that this is their wedge issue.  The left already hates Trump and this article will just serve as confirmation bias for that viewpoint; meanwhile, the right will think even if he did say it, "He's got a point...the solider did know this was a possibility".  Just another pointless article to me. 

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tmosley OneStinkyDinky Wed, 10/18/2017 - 14:08 Permalink

The illegal immigrants bit was NOT a lie, you mongoloid. There are at least that many more registered to vote than there are people in a huge swath of democrat territory.He never said he had tapes about Comey.He WAS fucking wiretappedNobody ever said that nobody met with Russians. They didn't COLLUDE with Russia.You dumb shits had best hope that nothing happens to Trump. He is literally all that is standing between you and your ilk and a date with the hangman.

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