NATO General Threatens "Consequences" For Turkey Buying Russian Air Defense System

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In looking to upgrade their air defense system, Turkey had a choice: buying the advanced Russian S-400 systems, or more expensive, US-made alternativesTurkey chose to buy Russian, and NATO isn’t happy.

While NATO was initially just complaining the S-400 was incompatible with their own systems, top NATO General Petr Pavel told reporters this week that Turkey is likely to be punished by the alliance for not buying American.

“The principal of sovereignty obviously exists in acquisition of defense equipment, but the same way that nations are sovereign in making their decision, they are also sovereign in facing the consequences of that decision,” Pavel insisted.

Pavel dismissed reporter questions about the Turkish government’s recent anti-democracy moves, insisting nobody is perfect.

“When it comes to democratic deficits, show me one single nation that is perfect. No one is perfect,” Pavel said.


“No one challenges the role of Turkey as an important ally at the very difficult crossroads of challenges to the alliance.”

Apparently the same leeway does not apply for the question of buying American weapons.

The missile deal with Russia “is a clear sign that Turkey is disappointed in the U.S. and Europe,” said Konstantin Makienko, an analyst at the Center for Analysis of Strategies and Technologies, a Moscow think-tank.


“But until the advance is paid and the assembly begins, we can’t be sure of anything.”

Russia’s S-400, and its predecessor the S-300, have been praised as advanced, cost-effective alternatives to American anti-aircraft systems.

The US is used to having a virtual monopoly on this market, by ensuring that no one buys Russian without facing some very public criticism.


esum Oct 30, 2017 3:06 PM Permalink

put a clown in a costume with stars and there you have it .... General Petr PavelOBAMA / BRENNAN / RICE / JARRETT/ KERRY / CLINTON / POWERSdid a great job fucking up the middle east ...

Blue Dog Oct 30, 2017 1:15 PM Permalink

Turkey flipped east. Turkey apologized for shooting down the Russian fighter plane. US forces have been kicked out of the Incirlik Airforce Base. Turkey is now a Russian ally. 

LoveTruth Oct 30, 2017 12:30 PM Permalink

Turkey knows that Russia is ZERRO threat to them, provided they do not attack Russia. Buying S400 has in mind protection against some roge NATO country or some other.

spaniel Oct 30, 2017 10:51 AM Permalink

Hmmm....Turkey shot down a Russian jet fighter last year, and now Russia will supply their most advanced air defense system (I'm told, its invincible).Strange.

HowdyDoody spaniel Oct 30, 2017 3:51 PM Permalink

Not strange at all. Following the shootdown, the Russians stopped all trade and tourism with Turkey. That brought the Turkish economy to its knees. Russia offered Turkey a lifeline when the coup happened. Why? Because the Russians trust the Turks? Or respect Erdogan? No way. The quid pro quo was to shut off the Trukish supply routes for arms and replacement takfiris. Furthermore the repeated offer of a cut in on TrukStream lured them away from the ISIS oil laundering trade, dealing a further death bow to ISIS. You must remember that for Russia, totally eliminating the US terrorist scam is a matter of existential national security, as they know the US would oterwise unleash them on Russia.

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BendGuyhere Oct 30, 2017 10:42 AM Permalink

1) So the real mission of NATO is to function as a boutique store front for the US MIC?2) The US MIC can only sell its wildly over-engineered, ultra-costly junk using threats and compulsion?3) Is threatening Erdogan, who is FURIOUS with the West (and the USA in particular), wise? After he was stabbed in the back by his 'allies'...

Phillyguy Oct 30, 2017 10:35 AM Permalink

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Not only is the Russian S400 system cheaper, it is also far more advanced than anything NATO/US can provide. See- Gordon Duff’s stuff ( Isn’t this what “free market” is all about- purchase the best system at the cheapest price?

GreatUncle Oct 30, 2017 8:50 AM Permalink

You got to admire the outright brass neck of general Pavel.Democratic is to have a voice, NATO has no such voice it is run by the globalists as a private army.Backed up by globalist UN sanctions and the globalist economic powerhouse called the IMF.A population should have a referendum before a NATO action can ever take place in their name from now on.Making it truly a democratic decision by all to bomb the fuck out of women and children in the likes of Syria.Wouldn't that be more democratic?

Moribundus Oct 30, 2017 8:47 AM Permalink

This Czech guy turned up into full scale player in jersey of imperialism and neo-colonialism. It was funny to hear amerikan imperialists sayin they are OK with this biznis. Of course they are not

oncemore Oct 30, 2017 8:19 AM Permalink

USA tried a coup against Erdogan.Russia delivered Intel to Turks about the attempt to shoot down Erdogan's plane.Who is now surprised about Turkey's decision?A NATO idiot.

ogretown Oct 30, 2017 7:37 AM Permalink

NATO continues to live in their own little delusion where they actually think they are the good guys.  Reminds me of a line in an old movie "Is Paris Burning?" - where the Nazi general makes a comment where he wonders aloud who's side is god really on?  Sabre rattling Terdogan is counter-productive.  This arrogant comment coming out of the Clownage known as NATO only strengthens his belief that to turn away from NATO belligerance is the correct choice. One would have to agree. Russia has proven to be a growing and positive force in the region, whereas America continues to be outed as a destabilizing force.  The time of the Crusades is long over and both Europe and America should come to grips with that.     

Herdee Oct 30, 2017 7:34 AM Permalink

Turkey is moving towards the EurAsian trading zone. So is England, they are moving to trade with China in a new big way, financially as well. American influence based on threats of war and assassination around the globe is slowly eroding. The corrupt ways of doing business are being replaced with honest trading. The American way became corrupted by the military/industrial/spy complex and has resulted in alternative trading systems which bi-pass the dollar. In other words, the Coke and Heroin money being controlled out of Langley is being stuffed up their own asses. Nobody wants the NeoCon attitude any longer.