"This Is Crazy" - Antarctic Supervolcano Is Melting The Ice-Caps From Within

As we’ve pointed out, the supervolcano phenomenon is hardly unique to Yellowstone National Park, where a long dormant volcano with the potential to cause a devastating eruption has been rumbling since mid-summer, making some scientists uneasy.

Surprisingly active supervolcanos have been documented in Italy, North Korea and, now, Antarctica after scientists at NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL) have found new evidence to support a theory that the breakup of Antarctic ice may be caused in part by a massive geothermal heat source, with output close to the scale of Yellowstone National Park.

Of course, if accurate, this theory would help rebut the notion that man-made climate change is in part responsible for the melting ice, Russia Today reports.

A geothermal heat source called a mantle plume, a hot stream of subterranean molten rock that rises through the Earth's crust, may explain the breathing effect visible on Antarctica's Marie Byrd Land and elsewhere along the massive ice sheet.

While the mantle plume is not a new discovery, the recent research indicates it may explain why the ice sheet collapsed in a previous era of rapid climate change 11,000 years ago, and why the sheet is breaking up so quickly now.

"I thought it was crazy. I didn't see how we could have that amount of heat and still have ice on top of it," said Hélène Seroussi of NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, California.

Seroussi and Erik Ivins of JPL used the Ice Sheet System Model (ISSM), a mathematical depiction of the physics of ice sheets developed by scientists at JPL and the University of California, Irvine. Seroussi then tweaked the ISSM to hunt for natural heat sources as well as meltwater deposits.

This warm water lubricates the ice sheet from below, allowing glaciers to slide off into the sea. Studying meltwater in western Antarctica may allow scientists to estimate how much ice will be lost in future.

During their initial work, Seroussi and Ivins created simulations using higher heat flows than 150 milliwatts per square meter, which did not align with their space-based readings, except for one area: The Ross Sea.

 

 

Their calculations showed that, in certain sections of the sea, a heat flow of at least 150-180 milliwatts was required to create sufficient meltwater flows that matched with observations. They now believe the mantle plume is responsible for these higher-than-average readings.

The Marie Byrd Land mantle plume formed 50 to 110 million years ago, predating the Western Antarctic ice sheet. The mantle plume theory was initially proposed 30 years ago, but it’s not the only theory. Another posits that the sheer weight of the ice sheets causes melting deep below the surface.
 

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Slack Jack SixIsNinE Thu, 11/09/2017 - 22:59 Permalink

Record-Setting Hurricanes; Record temperatures; Record-Setting Wildfires; ya think it might be global warming?

THE EVIDENCE OF GLOBAL WARMING IS OVERWHELMING.

So, why is the global rise in temperatures so worrisome?

For one thing, as temperatures rise good farmland will become desert (e.g., dust-bowl conditions will probably return to the American Midwest).

Another major problem is sea-level rise.

Have a look at http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/fs2-00/

The U.S. Geological Survey people claim that;

The Greenland ice sheet melting will raise sea-level 6.55 meters (21.5 feet),
the West Antarctica ice sheet melting will raise sea-level 8.06 meters (26.4 feet),
the East Antarctica ice sheet melting will raise sea-level 64.8 meters (212.6 feet),
and all other ice melting will raise sea-level 0.91 meters (3 feet).

For a grand total of about 80 meters (263 feet).

So, what does an 80 meter (263 feet) rise in sea-level mean. Have a look at the following map of the world after an 80 meter rise. It means that over one billion people will have to be resettled to higher ground and that much of the most productive agricultural land will be under water. Fortunately, at current rates, the Greenland ice sheet will take over a thousand years to melt and the Antarctica ice sheet, much longer. However, the greater the temperature rise the faster the ice sheets will melt, bringing the problem much closer. Remember, the huge ice sheet that recently covered much of North America, almost completely melted in only 15,000 years (today, only the Greenland ice sheet, and some other small patches of it, remain). Since then (15,000 years ago), sea-levels have risen about 125 meters (410 feet), only 80 meters to go.

The ice sheets have been continuously melting for thousands of years. What is left of them today, is still melting, and will continue to melt. Human caused global warning will cause this remnant to melt significantly faster. This is a big, big, problem.

For HUGE detailed maps of the "World after the Melt" go to:

http://preearth.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=23

Global temperatures are increasing. And by quite a lot each year.

2016 is the hottest year on record for global temperatures.

This is 0.0380 degrees centigrade hotter than the previous record year which was 2015.

0.0380 is a large increase in just one year.

2015 was the hottest year (at that time) for global temperatures.

This was 0.1601 degrees hotter than the previous record year which was 2014.

0.1601 is an absolutely huge increase in just one year (at this rate temperatures would increase by 16 degrees in a century).

2014 was the hottest year (at that time) for global temperatures.

This was 0.0402 degrees hotter than the previous record year which was 2010.

http://preearth.net/images/temp-anomalies-1880-2017.txt

The conspiracy to hide global warming data.

The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) is given tax money to make global temperature records available to the public. However, certain people at NOAA continually sabotage this aspect of NOAA's mandate. For example, these people have (deliberately) sabotaged the web-page that delivers the temperature records.

Look for yourself:

Go to the page: https://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/monitoring-references/faq/anomalies.php scroll down to the The Global Anomalies and Index Data section and click the download button and see what happens. Well, you get the message:

"Not Found. The requested URL /monitoring-references/faq/anomalies-download was not found on this server."

I guess that the 2017 data must be truly horrible if they have to hide it away.

http://preearth.net/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=23

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Slack Jack Slack Jack Thu, 11/09/2017 - 23:15 Permalink

"Their calculations showed that, in certain sections of the sea, a heat flow of at least 150-180 milliwatts was required...."

To get an idea of the (150-180 milliwatts per square meter) heat flow that they are talking about. Go outside just before the sun rises and feel the heat flow from the earth/dirt. That is 80 milliwatts per square meter,... Watch you don't burn your hand. Now imagine double that.

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Manthong Slack Jack Fri, 11/10/2017 - 03:05 Permalink

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 ..but on the other hand ……………….. According to Obama, 99% of scientists  agree that anthro’s cause all of the hot sea vent heat and will kill us all.

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bluez Manthong Fri, 11/10/2017 - 05:37 Permalink

Just what I told y'all. It comes from where least expected. I told you there was a supervolcano melting the Antarctic pole. Did you listen? NO!Now we are so screwed. But it don't matter anyhow. How you gonna prep against this motherfucker? You can't.But carry on. Prep for tomorrow morning. Prep that coffee maker and be off to your business. Sheep.

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trippy64 Slack Jack Fri, 11/10/2017 - 09:02 Permalink

Dearest Slack Jack:Please look up the temperature of 1997 and 2003 respectively, as reported in 2005,2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, and 2012. And please explain how these two temperatures have been adjusted downward each and every tie they were reported, so that the subsequent years can be reported as the hottest years ever.Then tell me how this manipulation points to anything but wishcasting? Because i have been hearing about this rise in sea water for decades, yet the sea from my house hasn't moved much in 40+ years, other than during storms.Please and thank you

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Kayman Slack Jack Fri, 11/10/2017 - 10:06 Permalink

"And a warm front from the Arctic is moving south through Canada to warm the US Northeast."SlackJack- well named- always spouting off- "Record this, Record that".  As every lying statistician learns in Stats 101, when you get to pick the beginning date, you can always manipulate the data to create a "record".Today is colder than yesterday so today is a record for the 2 days.  "The sky is falling" works well for children and idiots.

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Manthong MillionDollarButter Fri, 11/10/2017 - 01:08 Permalink

 Well, the good news is that we might finally have palm trees growing in Yellowknife.... .. and I can go north for a nice December  tan, 
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….. and I am soliciting for investors in my new, exclusive  gated community in … Hot Springs, Siberia.  

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bobzibub Truthoutthere Fri, 11/10/2017 - 09:10 Permalink

If the global climate change theory is wrong, and the world spends hundreds of billions fixing it, we're out hundreds of billions.
If you're wrong and we don't spend hundreds of billions fixing it, the world is really really screwed as are the people on it. What's rational policy then?

I think that people who deny climate change usually go from limo to a/c office to a/c hotel to golf course in some city etc. Those that have been in the wilds over the decades will see the changes first hand. I'm not mr. outdoorsman but even I have.

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techpriest bobzibub Fri, 11/10/2017 - 10:09 Permalink

I spend plenty of time outside, every day. and frankly, the main difference I see is that the best thing we can do for the environment is eliminate the school system as we know it, as it teaches kids at a behavioral level to sit in an office and do paperwork, in the hopes of getting reward tokens (A's, shiny stickers, later on BMWs). This feeds into all sorts of backward ideas about private land use, which has a variety of follow-on effects (for example, if most of your back yard is raised-bed garden, you reduce ag demand *and* you offset the hard surface from your house in terms of water runoff).

Next, ag policy demands killing off all kinds of species on large swathes of land, and then we turn around and burn nearly half of the corn we grow. That has caused all kinds of wildlife death and ecosystem disruption.

Finally, the majority of people I know who are ranting about climate change tend to be the ones in the climate-controlled office, because they are clueless to what's going on outside.

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justa minute You Only Live Twice Fri, 11/10/2017 - 03:49 Permalink

actually their is no spinning or wobbling or whatever, water is always level at rest, how do you know? reflection, pretty simple, something that has curvature will not reflect anything, same goes for the moon if it were a globe it would not reflect sunlight. do some research, as a cia director once said "our mission is complete when EVERYTHING people believe is a lie" and that includes globism which is the one world religion. that will be proven by how many down arrows i get, but that is ok you can all keep arguing about something that doesnt even exist. just look at the un logo, that is a map of true earth broken up into 33 sections(33 degrees of freemasonry), they are laughing at you!

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francis_the_wo… Joe Mama 3 Fri, 11/10/2017 - 01:34 Permalink

Pay attention Joe,He's been copy & pasting that same garbage for months now anytime any article references the Climate Change charade.Those who are familiar with Climate Gate and all things related are very familiar with one of the deans of climate-hysteria: Michael Mann.  There's a local fishwrap here in San Diego called the Carmel Valley News with a circulation of a few thousand.  Someone had made a comment rebutting the CAGW theory in the letters to the editor section.  Michael Mann took the time our of his busy research/begging for funding schedule to write a rebuttal.  This rebuttal was very similar to Slack Jack's drivel....just trying to drive home the same debunked meme over and over trying to control the narrative and make sure there's never any real scientific debate.  Science is not done by shouting down naysayers, but that's pretty much Mann's entire contribution to science the past couple of decades.  The clown still tries to use his hockey stick graph, for the luv of gawd.And yes, I wrote a rebuttal but the editor (who I know) chose not to publish as they were aware of Mann's constant lawsuits at anyone who has the gall to challenge him publicly.

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Memedada booboo Fri, 11/10/2017 - 04:26 Permalink

Yep, all ”economic” activity today is basically different variations of Ponzi Schemes. But you have to be blind (or be too much in the “corporate propaganda”-loop/MSN-hypnosis) not to notice that the current economic system is also an ecological disaster. In relation to all measures of sustainability – depleting natural resources (clean fresh water being the most important), literal islands of plastic floating around in the oceans, micro-plastics ending in food and water, air pollution, reduction in biodiversity (in both flora and fauna – land and sea) and mountains of waste. The current economic system is wasteful – wasteful of resources and time. And the current economic system is destructive – of the commons, humans and of the nature.    

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Fish Gone Bad Slack Jack Fri, 11/10/2017 - 01:43 Permalink

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Geoengineering… Slack Jack Fri, 11/10/2017 - 02:09 Permalink

It's not volcanoes or "climate change", it's an abrupt climate shift triggered in no small part by GLOBAL CLIMATE ENGINEERING, which threatens all life on Earth.   http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/ozone-layer-collapse-a-former-nasa-c… else matters until this ends.  Because if it doesn't, we will no longer be firing on every neuron and there will be no food or water left.  EVERYTHING ELSE is an utter distraction - even the economic stuff, and especially the political theatre.    Get educated on this issue and share this information with others.  

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