Mueller Probes Flynn's Role In $15 Million Plot To Kidnap Erdogan's Arch-Nemesis

Last week, we reported that Special Counsel Robert Mueller is close to asking a grand jury to approve indictments for former National Security Adviser Mike Flynn and his son, Mike Flynn Jr., as investigators believe they have enough evidence to bring charges after speaking to multiple witnesses about Flynn's lobbying work, including whether he laundered money or lied to federal agents about his overseas contacts. Now, we have a somewhat clearer picture of what Mueller has been digging around for in his investigation of Flynn who was fired after just 24 days on the job.

According to the Wall Street Journal, Mueller is probing a plot involving Flynn and his son to forcibly, and lucratively, remove Fethullah Gulen, who as most regular readers know is Turkish president Erdogan's arch-nemesis, and the man who - according to Erdogan - controls Turkey's "deep state", and was responsible for the failed (and faked) July 2016 coup attempt against Erdogan. In more practical terms, Gulen is a 76-year-old Muslim cleric currently residing in rural Pennsylvania. And, as is also well-known, Erdogan has for years been attempting, lobbying and threatening the US in hopes of getting him extradited back to Turkey. This is where Flynn allegedly comes in: reportedly he, and his son, were part of a plan to grab Gulen and deliver him to Turkey in return for $15 millions. To wit:

Under the alleged proposal, Mr. Flynn and his son, Michael Flynn Jr., were to be paid as much as $15 million for delivering Fethullah Gulen to the Turkish government, according to people with knowledge of discussions Mr. Flynn had with Turkish representatives. President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, who has pressed the U.S. to extradite him, views the cleric as a political enemy.

While this may sounds too bizarre to be true - as are most things involving Turkey's cartoonish dictator - this isn’t the first time the public has been informed about an alleged plot involving Flynn to kidnap Gulen and rendition him to an isolated Turkish prison island to face charges of orchestrating the July 2016 attempted coup that killed more than 200 Turks.

Before entering the Trump administration as the president’s national security adviser, Flynn was lobbying on behalf of Turkish interests in the US, including on the Gulen issue. The problem is that - like Manafort and Podesta - he didn’t disclose that work until much later, in Flynn's case March of this year, well after he was forced out of the White House for misleading Vice President Mike Pence and other White House officials about conversations he had with the Russian ambassador.

Furthermore, Federal records show that the company, Flynn Intel Group, was paid $530,000 for advocacy work that “could be construed to have principally benefited the Republic of Turkey.” He is now facing military, congressional and criminal investigations into allegations that he improperly concealed his financial ties to Turkey and Russia, and into whether the ties played any role in his decisions as the president’s adviser.

More details from the WSJ:

Federal Bureau of Investigation agents have asked at least four individuals about a meeting in mid-December at the ‘21’ Club in New York City, where Mr. Flynn and representatives of the Turkish government discussed removing Mr. Gulen, according to people with knowledge of the FBI’s inquiries. The discussions allegedly involved the possibility of transporting Mr. Gulen on a private jet to the Turkish prison island of Imrali, according to one of the people who has spoken to the FBI.

That wasn’t the first time Flynn allegedly met with representatives of the Turkish government to discuss kidnapping removing Gulen. As former CIA Director James Woolsey told The Wall Street Journal back in March, Woolsey attended another meeting in September where he says he told the group that the plan sounded illegal.

Ironically, the Fed's interest in whether Flynn was pursuing potentially illegal means to forcibly deal with Gulen indicates that the former Trump adviser faces another investigation stemming from his work on behalf of Turkish government interests, both before and after the presidential election. We say ironically because last time we checked, Turkey is not in Russia, at least not yet according to NATO.

Even so, the entire account is based on hearsay:

"the people who described the alleged proposal said they didn’t attend the December meeting and didn’t have direct knowledge from Flynn or his associates about its purported details. It isn’t clear how advanced Mueller’s investigation of the alleged plan to remove Gulen is, nor is there any indication that any money changed hands, according to those familiar with the discussions and the FBI investigation."

In light of the charges against Manafort and Gates, it is also likely that Flynn will face a charge of violating the Foreign Agents Registration Act, which requires US citizens to disclose when they are acting in the US on behalf of foreign powers. And, like Manafort and Gates, the violations being examined have nothing to do with Flynn’s work on the Trump campaign or his brief tenure as National Security Adviser. However, like Manafort, Gates and Papadopoulos, Mueller is working to find any dirt on anyone associated with the campaign in the hopes of flipping them, or convincing them to testify against their former boss in exchange for leniency.

Until then, look out for more indictments, and - of course - the best part: Erdogan's angry response which he is never too shy to deliver.


BarkingCat CuttingEdge Fri, 11/10/2017 - 09:40 Permalink

Exactly. Wasn't his investigation was supposed to be strictly into the Russian collusion will the Trump campaign? Wasn't he not supposed to be  explain the scope of his investigation? That's why I remember being said when he was first appointed. The little Heeb in the Justice Department who is supposed to be controlling him needs to rein him in

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SoDamnMad BarkingCat Fri, 11/10/2017 - 10:12 Permalink

Did I not wash the "STUPID" lettering from my forehead this morning.  Flynnis going to kidnap Gulen from PA an no one will know about it and deliver himto Erdogen.  Then where on earth will Flynn and his son live that they won't be targets. OH, be rich living in Turkey. Oh yeah. And Gulen's loyalists will not cut your throats in Turkey.  If if you return home Flynn won't get his throat cut in the US. Be real Mueller.

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TheDude1224 brianshell Fri, 11/10/2017 - 11:04 Permalink

Mueller digs into the Russia narrative with Trump and discovers everything about his dark history is coming forward. Decides to target lowly lobbyists and pedos that have connections with other random countries not named Russia as a distraction and to prove he hasn't wasted everyone's time. Only ZHers realize this is a distraction, while the rest of the US sits with their heads on a swivel thinking something is actually being accomplished. Thank god my tax dollars went to this cause! 

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wildbad TheDude1224 Fri, 11/10/2017 - 11:42 Permalink

This is perhaps the biggest story of all, even if it is coming throught the back door.

Just as any half awake observer knows that the initial DNC / Mueller canard amd witch hunt about russia is a red herring, so will this attack on Flynn, a true American patriot, point to the deepest of deep state / shadow government machinations which revolve around the Clinton Crime syndicate and Mueller himself.

As much as one can and should find fault with Erdogan, Gulen, his arch nemesis is far more evil. Gulen was flown to the USA by none other than Bill Clinton and is a CIA asset. Aside from destabilization activities and mosque building in non-muslim countries, this arch fundamentalist fanatic controls more charter schools in the USA than any other organization. It is not for nothing that the staged coup d etat was put down so brutally by erdogan as being a Gulen / CIA complot.

So...While Mueller is opening the investigation backwards, one will find his own sticky ex-FBI chief and clinton lackey fingerprints on and behind the introduction and support of the LARGEST SLEEPER CELL ISLAMIC NETWORK IN THE USA.

go to NEWSBUD;COM for the lowdown

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BobEore HowdyDoody Fri, 11/10/2017 - 13:07 Permalink


no, not really.

Nearly 50 years now, there's been a 'liberal' CIA establishment, competing with a "conservative" CIA establishment... for power and influence.

They are both 'controlled opposition.'

Picking a side in any of their psyops - such is the major pastime here... is pretty like saying you prefer sleeping in dry... vs. runny shitsheets.

or vs versus. Have fun with that!

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BobEore SoDamnMad Fri, 11/10/2017 - 11:02 Permalink

Here we are... couple days later, after the last "Flynn & the Neocons Fo'ver" thread.

And it's already clear, we are gonna have a repeat performance. So let's go at it! Here's the takeaway from that 24 carat jewel ...…

of a peek into the soft underbelly of the psyop(s) which underlies this site... and the ONEMEDIA in sum.

IN ADDITION to the domestic racket... which most everybody knows bout by now... swing opinion towards something called an "alt-right" mindset which is really just an empty "SAKS" shopping bag full o nuthin... but tired memes and even tired ploys by which to foool the local yokels into compliance with the MAKE AMERICA NOAHIDE FOREVER plan...

we have a "foreign affairs" racket... which, relying reliably on the near total UN-knowledge of the readership bout anywheres and everywheres not part of the western hemisphere and a shallow slice of that place we called "Europe" once pon a time...

makes hay with jaw dropping whoppers about ...
Russia/China/the rest of Asia... and IN PARTICULAR... THE MUDDLED EAST! And for some reason, right in the heart of all that... TURKIYE.

dESpeEraTE to get something or other 'back in the box'... for it's too late... the alt media needs us to believe....

Erdogan is a 'good guy'... as long as he sticks like glue to the Russkies that is!
Gulen is a "bad guy" cause he's not friendly with the mentioned good guy!
Russia is good - be cause - America "bad"
Srael and Russia don't hang together in the muddled east or any where else... cause THAT ... would be "bad" for our storyline.

Which pretty much consists of daily enunciations of whatever works best to convince the punters that the only thing left to do at this point is

buy some gold/silver...
then wait for the RUssIaN and ChiNeSe bears to swoop down from on high, and SAVE THEM... (AND THEM ALONE)from the doom machine which will snatch AMeriCa and the rest o the west into Dante's Eight Circle o Hell.

Or sumthin like that!

So let's go at it now TARDS! \\'

yOU know NOTHING... nothing at all about
Reza Zarrab
Gold for Oil
the way things work here. In the muddled east.

And I know waaay too much... for the comfort of the management... the guy who hangs out at Aipac sponsored anti-mussie NYC "events" ... and who wisely abandoned that previous thread when he figured that out... of UNIT 8200... and a plethora of sio-sponsored OTHER SOCK PUPPETS here n elsewhere.

C'mon out - time to play lil fellers! Baba's 'got yur back'!!!

I can FEEL \\PART FOURTEEN// comin on now! Thanks Billy!

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fleur de lis CuttingEdge Fri, 11/10/2017 - 10:00 Permalink

Mueller is all smoke and mirrors.He is putting on a real DC Swamp Kabuki Dance.Although in his case it might be closer to a pole dance.Whatever.He knows very well that he gets paid big time with no questions asked as long as he keeps the whole country on a hamster wheel.So he will keep putting on a show as long as he gets paid.Step right up folks, the DC Swamp Circus is in town.And Ringmaster Mueller will entertain you for years.He will bring in side shows.And a few freak shows.The bill is in the mail from DC Swamp, Inc. 

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Endgame Napoleon ne-tiger Fri, 11/10/2017 - 10:03 Permalink

Who knew about this? Other than one article I saw about the feud between that cleric and the Turkish dictator, which had no mention of these allegations against Flynn, I do not remember the press covering this at all in the pre-campaign days. They covered it about as much as they covered Billary’s uranium sale to Russia or Bill’s $500k speech to Russian banks.

Granted, the tangled webs in globalism are hard to keep up with. How would Trump know about it any more than the public? Was it in available intelligence? If so, did Obama know? Did Hillary know? This would be a State Department-related issue. And Hillary was known as a details woman.

Outlaw Lobbying By Foreign and Multinational Companies for 15 Years After Swamp Creatures, Their Staff and Their Families Leave Office

Outlaw Lobbying (And Consulting) of US Government Enployees by Foreign Leaders.

Outlaw Consulting by American Citizens in Foreign Elections.

Outlaw “Not-For-Profit” NGOs, Wherein Political Elites Raise Money Through Deep-Pocketed Foreign Contacts Made in Office.

Disclosure and then do-as-you-please globalism is not enough; the press does not look into these matters until they decide to make a scapegoat of a few people. Afterwards, it is just business as usual until the next set of scapegoats is found.

Make the rules clear to elites, rather than promoting the lucrative-for-a-few infrastructure of globalism at every turn, encouraging government employees to forge relationships with foreign leaders outside of regulated, diplomatic relations.

Downsize the State Department, like Tillerson is doing, to prevent so much fraternizing with lucrative, foreign, after-office-holding business contacts on the taxpayer dime.

People are innocent until proven guilty, though. A Four-Star General should be given the benefit of the doubt until they actually prove something. People can say anything about someone who is a maverick type. They often choose to go after the people who are a little outside of the clubby club, so we should not just assume he is guilty just because The Swamp says so, trying to stop any more inquiry or real change in the lucrative, globalist system via one or two prosecutions.

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BobEore Endgame Napoleon Fri, 11/10/2017 - 11:26 Permalink

Could you 'splain to us what it is about 4 stars which makes a guy immune to responsibility for

working as a paid agent of a foreign government(particularly one with a serious serial snarliness towards the USA)WITHOUT registering as such AS REQUIRED BY LAW....

open involvement in a scheme to remove a person from US soil illegally, and in contravention of numerous legalaties, \oas part of a renumeration for using influence stemming from a public service position?

Or is it just an 'exceptionalist' thing we're supposed to understand without talking about it?

Like Flynn's book with neocon luminary Leeden talkin Sraels' "book" about dealing with sionist controlled 'radical islam>"?????

Four stars...

fo'get about your vote buttons, cabin boyz... either make the case for why Flynn should get a free pass ...
or take YET ANOTHER self inflicted nail gun head shot!

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quadraspleen djsmps Fri, 11/10/2017 - 10:16 Permalink

Before calling Flynn out on this, People need to go and find out what Fethulla Gulen did and does from his ivory tower in the US (helped along by the State dept. among others) The guys is a terrorist. he funds terrorists, and he operates in total safety.I'm not saying the Grand Attaturk is any better, but c'mon. Call a spade a spade (is that waycist these days?)

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BobEore quadraspleen Fri, 11/10/2017 - 11:46 Permalink

You're trying harder this time round... but still can't quite get your head around the 'logic' thing.

Let's forget about Flynn taking half a million dollars from the jihadist TERROR REGIME in Ankara... to use his influence with the POTUS in order to forward the foreign policy goals of a State whose relations with the USA are in a STATE of crisis for the past year...

and then involving himself in a plot to remove gulen from US soil without trial, or any legality whatsoever... for MOAR MOOLAH...


KEEP THE SPOTLIGHT focused upon an internecine quarrel between two competing factions of islamist carpetbaggers, both in thrall to tel aviv...

csuse that's just how we roll... in rolling over for the benefit of Sraeli foreign policy.. which, as it happens, thru gulen under the bus - as it does with ALL its' lil helpers.. when he used up his usefulness to them. \\btw//

I realize you know less than zero about the intricacies of Turkish political developments ... and attempt to downplay that obvious deficit by simply making deranged ad homs substitute for an argument... but -

there's several TENS OF MILLIONS OF US HERE... outside your purview as well as exceptionalist imagination... who do not choose to 'pick sides' between either criminal cartel... and prefer a return to a semi-secular, pluralistic ANATOLIA. ... like it used to be.

Team sport politics - leave it at home lil buddy... the mix is deadly to your composure!

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sgt_doom djsmps Fri, 11/10/2017 - 13:16 Permalink

Ya know, I was listening to NPR this morning, the gay-voiced dood, David Green (voice really creeps me out, sorry!), prattle on about Myanmar and the problems there, all purporting to be genocide, while in the international news over the past 4 months I've been reading about ISIS/al Qaeda involvement there, leading up to the attack on their police station.Of course, we hardly ever get the real story from any of the Fake News America shows (NPR, CBS, ABC, Fox, CNN, MSNBC, PBS, etc.), but I was thinking that NPR still hasn't give us any real news about Erdogan being an extremist and dismantling Ataturk's Deep State structure to prevent radical religious extremists gaining control, then I heard this tidbit about Flynn.If it is true what is alleged, then it turns out my first opinion on FLynn was wrong, and he's an even bigger douchetard than the other heads and former heads of the intel agencies!

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BobEore Ignorance is bliss Fri, 11/10/2017 - 12:20 Permalink

SOOOO glad you asked!

It's actually quite complicated... head twisting in fact... but once one has learned to follow the intricacies of criminal cartels masquerading as 'state players,' it is doable...

and thanks to the incredible amount of snarly invective one can stir up here with the mere mention of

bought generals...
puppet Presidents - both youse own and abroad in certain Aksarays...
shady influence peddlers/gold sellers/human trafficers
talmudic mafiyas and phony islamists...
as per…

all danglin pon a pirate state in the s e Meds' strings..

I'm now fixing to put it all together and push the publish but-ton. THANKS! BUT-HURT BILLY N buffon-buddies... without your inspiration I'd probably have stayed snoozin!

what does all this have to do with \russia/>????

Here's your first clue -

"It takes no special genius to parse the meaning of the news story above. We've mentioned previously the tight connection between Mafiya-mentored Donald J Drumpf, and Ashkenazi Mafiya biwig "Red Rudy" Guiliani - Donald's "special envoy" to Natty and SPECTRE headquarters in the s e Med. So in watching Rudy now assume the role of "unofficial"(for now) spokesman for an adminstration increasingly "open" to selling favors to highest bidders"...…

\red rudy g/the man responsible for the care n feeding of a whole generation of russian talmudist gangsters he brought outta Egypt...err.. Khazaristan dat is!... and settle in NYC... to infect the body politic of the whole nation!

Russia? Nuthin to see here!

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buzzsaw99 E.F. Mutton Fri, 11/10/2017 - 09:20 Permalink

the funny thing is that no matter what they do they can't install that diseased ho in the white house.  the best they can do is replace trump with someone who will play deep state ball.  that they hate trump is his one endearing quality.  other than that he is totally despicable.  the more time they waste trying to tear him down the less time they have to try to fuck me up the mutant bunghole.

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Endgame Napoleon pound the vix Fri, 11/10/2017 - 10:13 Permalink

Russia has supposedly been involved in Turkey, economically. The article I read said something about Russia wanting access to a Turkish port or something. Who really knows? US leaders need to focus on the stagnant US economy and border security, which overlaps with protecting citizens from terrorism and crime, but is also a huge economic issue. We thought we were voting for those things. Flynn was liked by many voters because there was a perception that he was strongly anti-terrorist. If you remember, there were a series of mass murders by terrorists—both here and in Europe—before Trump was elected.

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BobEore Endgame Napoleon Fri, 11/10/2017 - 11:54 Permalink

There was a "perception" some time back...

that Dick Cheney... Bush 42... Rumsfeld... and a bunch of other guys in the military/political establishment were

"strongly anti-terrorist" as well.

Unfortunately, it was just a "perception"... which faded fast, in the wake of 911 mongst pretty much everyone cept the rump recidivists who still believe that Westmoreland would have pulled out a victory... if he'd just been allowed to finish the job!

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