Doug Casey On Why Race Will Break America Apart, Part II


Today, Doug and I continue our conversation on why the U.S. could dissolve over time. Doug says the problems are all bubbling to the surface…and when the U.S. eventually breaks apart “it will not be peaceful.” (If you missed Part I, you can catch up right here.)

Justin: What about political tensions? Because, as I’m sure you’ve seen, the far-left and far-right are becoming more and more antagonistic. In some cases, they’ve even become violent towards each other.

Could radical political ideologies cause the country to break apart?

Doug: Yes, I think so.

In the late ‘60s and the early ‘70s, hundreds of bombings took place at universities, banks, and all kinds of places. The National Guard was in cities like Detroit during the riots, and they were raking buildings with .50 caliber machine guns. It was wild.

I don’t think most remember this. At least, I don’t see it being brought up anywhere.

I lived in Washington DC then. It seemed like there was tear gas in the air half the time I went out on a date on a Friday or Saturday night.

But as wild and wooly as things were back then, what we have now is much more serious.

The racial element is still there, but the ideological element is even more pronounced.

In those days, people at least talked to each other. You could have a disagreement, and it was a simple difference of opinion.

It’s much worse now. Today, there’s a visceral hatred between the left and the right, between the people that live in the so-called red counties and blue counties.

You add that to the racial situation. Then throw in the fact that the rich are getting richer at an exponential rate while the middle class is disappearing.

And let’s not forget the large-scale subsidized migration of people from totally alien Third World hellholes. This is not what the U.S. was founded on. Before changes in the immigration law that were made in the ‘60s, immigrants were culturally compatible opportunity seekers that were coming to America to improve themselves.

Now, people from all kinds of alien places are being imported by the hundreds of thousands by NGOs; they then go on welfare in enclaves in different places around the country. This is unlikely to end well. The U.S. is no longer a country.

That said, I’m actually for open borders. But it’s only possible if, A, there is zero welfare to attract the wrong types. And, B, all property was privately owned, to help ensure everyone is self-supporting.

Justin: But Doug, aren’t you against large nation states? Would the Divided States of America be better?

Doug: Absolutely. In my ideal world, there would be approximately seven billion little nation states on the planet, all of them independent.

It would be excellent if the U.S. split into smaller entities, where the people that lived in these entities shared more in common with each other.

And let me go further. I think it was a mistake for the U.S. to have come together with the Constitution of 1789. The Articles of Confederation should have stayed in existence, with a few modifications. The Constitutional Convention of 1789 was actually a coup. A successful, non-violent coup. Most people didn’t really care because the government was such a trivial factor in their lives in those days.

I’m just afraid that when the U.S. breaks up, which inevitably it will, it may not be peaceful. The existence of the USA—which is now just one of 200 other nation states, no longer anything special—is not part of the cosmic firmament. The original founding ideas of America expressed in the Declaration of Independence have been lost, washed away. The absence of those principles is why I say it’s going to come to a bad end.

Justin: Do you think the United States will dissolve over time? Or will something set this in motion, possibly a financial or economic crisis?

Doug: An economic crisis always brings things to the fore.

When the standard of living is dropping, the government inevitably finds somebody or something to blame…anything other than itself.

Usually, they point the finger at foreigners. But if you get the wrong people in the government, they can point fingers at domestic enemies, the way the Germans did with the Jews in the ‘30s, or the way the Soviets did with the kulaks at the same time. Or the way the Chinese did with its enemies of the State under Mao. There are many, many other examples. Political power attracts the worst kind of people—and then brings out the worst in them.

Economic turmoil causes social turmoil and political turmoil. And one of the things that scares me most is that if things get spooky within the U.S., people in the government will try to find a foreign enemy in order to “unite” the country.

Incidentally, I don’t feel that uniting the country is necessarily a good idea. It all depends on which direction they’re united towards, and united against what. And do the people of the United States have enough in common anymore to even be united? I think not, in an age of multiculturalism.

There are a lot of problems, and they’re bubbling to the surface. When the economy gets bad, which it will, I think the pot will boil over.

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wee-weed up Fri, 11/24/2017 - 21:38 Permalink

  America will ONLY break apart due to race...If Lib/Dims/MSM get their race-devisive way.They always try to pit the races & classes against each other.That's their only plan to win voters...Fight them every single chance you get!

J S Bach hoist the bs flag Fri, 11/24/2017 - 22:10 Permalink

Race will always break a country apart if it consists of more than one of them.  This is Nature's way.  The oriole does not nest with the eagle - though they both be birds.  The polar bear does not den with the grizzly bear - though they both be bears.  The red ants do not colonize with the black ants - though they both be ants.  Speciation forms all of the true diversity of life on our planet and when this happens, each group must have its own living space to grow and thrive.  Humans are no different.  Only (((ONE hominid species))) knowingly tries to thwart this natural law by pushing false ideologies (egalitarianism) along with forced integration (open borders) of the various human races in the world.So, yes, every race, people and culture will follow their innate inclinations... and seek to have things THEIR way in the unnatural amalgamation nations which the malefic enemies of all mankind have heinously created.  Nothing but sheer brute force can hold such countries together (i.e. the Soviet Union).  When the explosive day of reckoning comes for the invaded Western Nations, everyone concerned must be cognizant of the pathogenic tribe that caused it all.

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Dsyno bobcatz Fri, 11/24/2017 - 23:47 Permalink

Anyone who is a racist is a gullible sheep who is falling for the elites tactics to distract, divide-and-conquer.And ZH is full of racists. So sick of the racist comments from naive fools. Keep fighting each other, idiots, instead of fighting the elites.

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Ms. Erable Dsyno Sat, 11/25/2017 - 00:13 Permalink

I agree, but only so far. If the 'elites' (i.e., Upper Parasite Class) have - or will - convince large segments of ill-educated and mentally inferior minorities that all of their problems stem from raycissum and 'White Priviledge', then preach in their echo chambers about killin' whitey and actually start doing it (which, to an extent, they have), do you expect them to stop because we mansplain to them they're being used?Give it a shot and see what happens - and let us know the address of the funeral home to which you'd like your flowers delivered.

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Dindu Nuffins Ms. Erable Sat, 11/25/2017 - 01:23 Permalink

Racism is recently-coined word that has suckered a lot of people into using it at face value, but its origins and history reveal it to be little more than an intentionally-lopsided marxist term of abuse to destroy the natural protective instincts in their one singlemost hated enemy. It is highly arguable that the word shouldn't be taken seriously at all."Racism" was a cynical word of social control targeted only at whites, created by Marxists in the 1920s, first in the Russian language by Leon Trotsky to counter an anti-Jewish backlash against the Russian Bolshevik Revolution. Then the word spread to English in 1938 after the translation of a book entitled Racism written by Jewish "sex researcher" Magnus Hirschfeld after being expelled from Germany and having witnessed his perverted research library being burned in the famous book-burnings. (Hirschfeld is also known for his pioneering work in transgenderism which has always been a focus for the radical equality of Marxists. The books being burned by Nazis were never the innocent "Huck Finn" variety of banned books. These books were disgusting even by today's standards.)Needless to say, these kinds of people hated the morality of white Christian cultures. The sole purpose of the word "racism" was to pathologize and condemn the normal healthy human instinct to prefer genetically-similar people--but only among white Christians. Marxists are anti-whites and only cared to apply this word to whites, therefore it never targets non-whites. They have spent decades popularizing this term as an anti-white pejorative in the University systems that they seized in the 1960s. It will be next to impossible to alter its meaning so far from its original purpose of destroying the white societies hated by marxist Jews. "Racism" is simply a recent marxist term of social control only for white targets. You can try to make it apply to non-whites but all of its history and origin is contrary to this purpose, making it an ill-fit for fairer application. It simply won't fit to use it on non-whites like it was intended to be fair and intellectually honest. A square peg and a round hole.(This history can be verified on Google's word frequency application Ngram,, which can track usage of the word "racism" in the Russian and English languages. It was coined at the dates reported above in Russian and English, and it spiked in popularity when Marxists infiltrated academia in the 1960s. Easy to confirm there.)This relatively young word was never intended to be used fairly and evenly against all racial and ethnic categories. It has only been used to target white societies. This word was repeated until people like you automatically and reflexively began to see nothing wrong in Black Pride and Asian Pride or Jewish Pride, but the mere words "White Pride" would make you faint in alarm. Whites are not allowed pride or even an identity because of an uneven application of this word. Even Mugabe is never called racist while killing white farmers, because the marxists never intended this word to be used on non-whites.In their universities which they were allowed to subvert, they have reshaped language in order to reshape thought, which in turn reshapes the society at large.

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zorba THE GREEK Dindu Nuffins Sat, 11/25/2017 - 08:19 Permalink

"It would be excellent if the U.S. broke up into little nations....."  That is how we started, as indendent states with a central Government only for raising an army and regulating interstate commerse period..Each state had their own laws and people had the choice of living in a state who's laws were in line with their personal beliefs. It was a great idea and worked like a charm, the country grew and prospered...but that all started to fall slowly fall apart starting with the Civil War. President Lincoln overstepped his constitutional powers and ever since then, we have headed downhill as a country. The States began losing more and more of their freedom of self rule and we now have become slaves to an all powerful government completely controlled by the elites for the total benefit of the elites. What once made our country great has been systematically disassembled until we have become one large nation  under tyrannical rule that serves only to advance the power and wealth of a few autocrats. They are using race to turn us against each other when we should be turning against them.

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A. Boaty Dindu Nuffins Sat, 11/25/2017 - 09:46 Permalink

An entry in the Oxford English Dictionary (2008) simply defines racialism as "An earlier term than racism, but now largely superseded by it," and cites it in a 1902 quote. The revised Oxford English Dictionary cites the shortened term "racism" in a quote from the following year, 1903. It was first defined by the Oxford English Dictionary as "[t]he theory that distinctive human characteristics and abilities are determined by race", which gives 1936 as the first recorded use. Additionally, the Oxford English Dictionary records racism as a synonym of racialism: "belief in the superiority of a particular race". By the end of World War II, racism had acquired the same supremacist connotations formerly associated with racialism: racism now implied racial discrimination, racial supremacism and a harmful intent. (The term "race hatred" had also been used by sociologist Frederick Hertz in the late 1920s.)

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Dindu Nuffins A. Boaty Sat, 11/25/2017 - 10:41 Permalink

Same jews, same marxists. The word "racialist" becomes popular no earlier than the russian word for racist, which can't be displayed on this forum because cyrillic isn't allowed here. Again, it doesn't make sense to check for first citations without realising that wider usage often comes decades later. Use Ngram to see when words gain traction.

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Dan'l Dindu Nuffins Sat, 11/25/2017 - 11:56 Permalink

The term "Judeo-Christian" term was also created to put the Kosher symbol on Christianity in the 1930's. This gives evil people like the Sackler Family ofPerdue Pharma fame who created the current opioid crisis that killed 60,000+ Americans last year a way to hide. The dirty scum Sacklers have a $15 billion dollar net worth today and it's built on a mountain of dead Whites. They are worse than Pablo Escobar.…

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root superuser Dindu Nuffins Sat, 11/25/2017 - 16:53 Permalink

Racism and racial discrimination protected whites, but it also protected non-whites in particular blacks. As long as blacks in USA were harmless farming equipment whites refused to ship them back despite much effort was made by elite to do that. We have natural instinct to take care of them. But wow that blacks are starting to become an actual existential threat for whites ... all bets are off.Elites wants to destroy blacks, they just understand that whites are easier to manipulate than persuaded with reason into doing it.P.S. Jews are just tool in the hands of elite much like Africans are tool in the hands of Jews.

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Dsyno Ms. Erable Sat, 11/25/2017 - 02:13 Permalink

"If the 'elites' (i.e., Upper Parasite Class) have - or will - convince large segments of ill-educated and mentally inferior..."Obviously you fall into that category, since you've been manipulated to dislike and generalize those with a different skin color.Wake the fuck up. You're being played, and the elites are laughing at us, as we attack each other instead of them. Classic divide-and-conquer.You'd think ZH'ers would easily see through such basic manipulation, given how quick we are to label everything a conspiracy. Instead, I've never seen so many immature racist comments anywhere as I do on ZH.We're all nothing but a bunch of sheep, falling for their games, and we can't even see it.

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Dindu Nuffins Dsyno Sat, 11/25/2017 - 03:50 Permalink

Race is not just skin color.How uneducated do you need to be before you think that 50,000 years of separate evolutionary paths has resulted in only different skin colors and not a gamut of behavioral and mental differences? People like you need to get some experience.Yes, you see the elites, but you still live inside the frame that they created for you. You still believe that diversity is strength. You still believe their common refrain that race is just skin color. You still think education leads to a utopian harmony rather than an acceptance of unending human struggle as natural. You deny being a sheep, but continue bleating the ideas that they created for you as a sheepfold. So, you remain a sheep wondering why wolves can't join together with you to fight the farmer.

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fleur de lis Dindu Nuffins Sat, 11/25/2017 - 04:52 Permalink

DN -- don't waste time on Dsyno/Designo.He has been brainwashed beyond recovery.The only reason he is here is because his handlers would have him believe that he can think when it is abundantly obvious that he is a NWO zombie.There are more and more of them wandering around ZH, reciting college zombie schoolwork, assigned to them by zombie teachers, and reinforced by zombie MSM's like those movie or TV apocalyptic zombies have evolved into zombie intellectuals and think they can take on ZH. 

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jcaz fleur de lis Sat, 11/25/2017 - 07:29 Permalink

It's not a matter of racism- it's a matter of common sense.I'm not going to apologize for my unwillingness to share my life with a race that is 20 IQ points below the mean.I'm not going to apologize for showing ZERO mercy for a race unwilling to live within an established legal system.They provide me with NOTHING other than football and basketball, I can happily live without these things.I'm tired of dummying-down to assholes who have zero interest in MY value system.Sure it's gonna "tear apart"-  we're 98% there already.  I am unwilling to live in watered-down society.I like my odds of survival on the other side- let's roll.

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NoPension jcaz Sat, 11/25/2017 - 08:55 Permalink

What defines a racist?! your post.

And yes, I'm trolling.

I'm about sick and tired of this fucking " racist " if the " only " difference between me and my white skin, and him and his dark the color of our skin. From my humble perspective...we may as well be two completely separate species.

This only ends one of two ways. Whitey separates and purges himself of outdated farm equipment.

Outdated farm equipment gets the upper hand, but literally can't farm...and dies of starvation. We see it everywhere. There is ZERO exception. Zip, zilch...nada. If shitskins could point to a successful outcome...any where, anytime...ever...we'd be having it rammed down our throats every day! But...crickets. They fucking destroy every thing they touch. They are either a cancer...or the proper and correct hominid life form meant to not impact the planet. Something along the lines of the existing wildlife that inhabits the planet.
At some will have to admit...they skipped a few beats on the evolutionary trail. 50,000- 100,000 years is probably about right. You aren't going to fix that with a remedial math course.

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Captain Nemo d… Government nee… Sat, 11/25/2017 - 09:39 Permalink

Everyone was traveling there, and getting back all the loot and "useful" people they could lay their hands on. Now that its all gone, lets give 'em freedom and democracy and watch the resulting mayhem. With popcorn. Unless of course we find minerals or oil there in which case we will be back with "military operations for peace".We have not agreed upon a time period during which historical "injustices" can be corrected. In other words someone slaps you, you slap them back is fine. If they slapped you a day before and you slap them today, still fine. How far back do we go in history where retribution is acceptable? 2 years (Putin tried to hurt Hillary; ISIS created mayhem in Syria/Iraq)? 10 years (Hussain tried to hurt GWB's daddy)? 30 years (The Soviet Russians tried to hurt US)? 40 years(the US bombed Vietnam)? 70 years (the Israelis took over Palestenian land; the whole world tried to kill each other)? 2000 years (the arabs took over Israeli land and everyone was always trying to kill each other)?  

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Paul Kersey Dsyno Sat, 11/25/2017 - 07:28 Permalink

"Wake the fuck up. You're being played, and the elites are laughing at us, as we attack each other instead of them. Classic divide-and-conquer."

Even without the exploitation tactics of the "elites", people, in general, are tribal, and wish to live among their own tribe. With the exception of possibly Singapore, the world, and not just America, has always been tribal, and it probably always will be.

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Xena fobe Paul Kersey Sat, 11/25/2017 - 12:06 Permalink

The elite profit from dividing us.  And they can facilitate the divisions.   But they don't tell all newcomers to settle in locales already peopled by those of the same ethnicity.  The elite do not tell each ethnic group the object of the game is to unite to compete against outside geoups.  The elite just let nature take it's course. 

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Captain Nemo d… NoPension Sat, 11/25/2017 - 09:54 Permalink

Someone who believes that within-race variations in individual characteristics are much smaller than differences across races and no control is needed for differences in circumstances and background (although admittedly background and race can be correlated).Who has ever heard of whites going on killing sprees and looting and stealing, especially without military bands accompanying them. The band, of course, makes everything  civilized. After all music is a sign of civilization are uniforms.

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Oldwood Dsyno Sat, 11/25/2017 - 09:30 Permalink

It's not ignorance that allows us to resist the aggressions of those "groups" who not only look different from ourselves but self identify as separate and distinct. Anyone but a fully indoctrinated self hating WHITE would recognize that it is ONLY whites that are not allowed to associate and discriminate.You should think about this. Note that even some people who appear white now seek to separate themselves from the white race, some even going so far as to self identify as a race genetically completely different. THIS is a psychosis born in continuous indoctrination of defeatism and self hatred, not just of white people but of western civilization. even our transparently corrupt government and misguided foreign policies are an agenda to reinforce this self hate of our very civilization. Rotting from the inside out....krokodil.

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HRH of Aquitaine 2.0 Dsyno Sat, 11/25/2017 - 02:16 Permalink

I know of two Utube channels that talk about race. One channel is run by a colored guy, Tommy Sotomayor: and the other channel is run by a white guy, Colin Flaherty who wrote two books, "White Girl Bleed Alot" and "Don't Make the Black Kids Angry." I watch both.

Both of these Utube channels talk about race in a very honest way. If you think colored people are going to be nice to your SJW ass, I dare you, go to the hood in Baltimore. Or Detroit. Or Chicago. Heck, I dare you, go in broad daylight. And if you think white people are going to continue to suffer while we are punished and blacks run like packs of wild dogs in the street? Oh no. I don't care if you don't like reality or not. I really don't give a fuck.

Like the brilliant Ms. Erable said, be sure to let us know which funeral home to send the flowers.

If you are so concerned about those ghetto neighborhoods, this channel is run by a black guy that does deliveries in a transit van. He is big and likes to buy lotto tickets. Enjoy the view from your couch:

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Dsyno HRH of Aquitaine 2.0 Sat, 11/25/2017 - 02:39 Permalink

Ya, and you're as much a part of the problem as them. Way to be a sucker and focus your anger on the entirely wrong source.And I'm no fucking SJW, numbnuts. What I am is, using my common sense to see where the real problem originates, and ignoring the unceasing childish distractions.("Oh look, Korea. Oh look, sexual harassment. Oh look, racism. Oh look, Black Friday. Oh look, China... Russia... stock market... Oh look, Democrats. Oh look, Republicans.")

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Dindu Nuffins Dsyno Sat, 11/25/2017 - 05:27 Permalink

The elites don't need to actively divide us. These people start off as divided from white society as possible in myriad ways culturally, hormonally and mentally; the elites needed only to increase their immigration and birth rates, then nature takes its predictable course. Division has always been baked effortlessly in to the diversity pie, and yet it seems you enjoy the taste. 

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Captain Nemo d… Dindu Nuffins Sat, 11/25/2017 - 10:13 Permalink

Yes, the elites created diversity by forcing slaves from Africa on the poor hapless landowners who had no choice then but to put them hard to work and deprive them of education and an opportunity to improve themselves, or to be part of civilized society by daring to consider themselves humans. And then the leftist snowflakes got them released and in spite of Southern efforts to "transition" them back to civilized society by trying to keep them ineligible to vote and to segregate them, the bonds were released too fast. Of course the elites and SJW are to blame for the problem. Perhaps had everyone stayed in their own country historically there would not have been a diversity problem to begin with. I am trying to recall when China invaded UK to settle people there.

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