Did Flynn's Plea Deal Just Disprove Election Collusion

Submitted by iBankCoin

This whole charade with former National Security Advisor Mike Flynn reeks of desperation and makes clear that Mueller's team has an empty hand. To summarize the plea agreement from the FBI Special Counsel’s “Statement of the Offense”:

  • On December 29, 2016, Flynn called a senior official of the Presidential Transition Team to discuss whether or not to talk to the Russians about recent U.S. sanctions imposed by Obama.
  • Flynn got the go-ahead from someone (does not name Trump) and called the Russian Ambassador, requesting that Russia not escalate the situation – asking that they only respond to the U.S. sanctions in a reciprocal manner.
  • On or about December 30 – the next day, Russian President Vladimir Putin released a statement indicating that Russia would not take retaliatory measures in response to U.S. sanctions.
  • Flynn lied about this on January 24 in a voluntary interview with the FBI
  • Flynn also lied to the FBI about calls he made to the Russian Ambassador and other countries to try and influence a UN resolution submitted by Egypt regarding Israeli settlements, stating he only asked the countries’ positions on the vote

ABC news takes it a step further, reporting from an anonymous source that “Donald Trump directed him to make contact with the Russians, initially as a way to work together to fight ISIS in Syria.” - though NBC News reports it was Trump's son-in-law and advisor Jared Kushner.

Observation and takeaways

  • The fact that Flynn spoke with the Russians in December, well after the election, has been known since February.
  • Mueller’s “Statement of Offense” establishes is that there wasn’t an existing backchannel between the Trump campaign and Russia – at least through Flynn, as it pertains to pre-election collusion. 
  • It’s perfectly reasonable to expect an incoming President to instruct his incoming National Security Advisor to establish a dialogue with a country like Russia over recent and contentious sanctions, as well as fighting ISIS in Syria.
  • If Flynn’s contact with Russia was related to “collusion” in regards to election meddling, he would be pleading guilty to an espionage conspiracy, not the “process crime” of lying to the FBI..
  • If Flynn were to now drop some new bombshell about greater Russian collusion, he would have lied to the FBI twice.

As Andrew McCarthy of the National Review points out;

when a prosecutor has a cooperator who was an accomplice in a major criminal scheme, the cooperator is made to plead guilty to the scheme. This is critical because it proves the existence of the scheme. In his guilty-plea allocution (the part of a plea proceeding in which the defendant admits what he did that makes him guilty), the accomplice explains the scheme and the actions taken by himself and his co-conspirators to carry it out. This goes a long way toward proving the case against all of the subjects of the investigation. That is not happening in Flynn’s situation. Instead, like Papadopoulos, he is being permitted to plead guilty to a mere process crime.

So why lie?

Why would Flynn lie about his contact with the Russians in late January, five days after the Inauguration? Was it because the nation had been whipped into an anti-Russia frenzy? Or, as some have suggested, does the rabbit hole go much deeper and there are aspects of the Trump-Russia story that haven’t been made public yet? Again, if that were known, Flynn would be pleading guilty to a much more serious crime.

That said, Flynn is facing a whopping six months in prison and a fine of up to $9,500 for lying to the Special Counsel.

Who’s next?

President Trump’s son-in-law and senior advisor, Jared Kushner, told the Senate Intelligence Committee that he asked Russia’s Ambassador whether the Trump transition team could use Russia’s embassy to communicate with Moscow about Syria.

The meeting with the ambassador, Sergey Kislyak, “occurred in Trump Tower, where we had our transition office, and lasted twenty [to] thirty minutes,” Kushner wrote in an 11-page statement detailing his contacts with Russian nationals during the election and transition period.


“Lt. General Michael Flynn (Ret.), who became the President’s National Security Advisor, also attended … I stated our desire for a fresh start in relations.”


Kushner said Kislyak, whose tenure in the US ended this past weekend, asked whether there was “a secure line in the transition office to conduct a conversation” about the US’s Syria policy.


“General Flynn or I explained that there were no such lines,” Kushner wrote. But he said he went on to ask whether the Russian Embassy “had an existing communications channel … we could use where they would be comfortable transmitting the information they wanted to relay to General Flynn.” –Business Insider

And now it emerges that Kushner allegedly asked Flynn to contact the Russian Ambassador…

So – unless there’s more than meets the eye, it appears that the coverup is far greater than the crime in regards to Flynn’s decision to lie to the FBI. And whatever the outcome, the hard bounce in the S&P 500 would seem to suggest this is perhaps another nothingburger and not quite the end of Drumpf.


benb nope-1004 Fri, 12/01/2017 - 19:44 Permalink

Mueller is a fucking criminal who helped run the 9-11 cover-up; a Clinton office boy in the Uranium One Treason which should have already gotten him hung, and presently part of a criminal conspiracy of sedition to overthrow the executive branch of the U.S. government. In fact excluding the nice honest and stupid agents at the bottom who mostly walk around with their fingers up their asses, the F.B.I. has a long history of not being the premier law enforcement organization but rather the premier criminal organization in the U.S. government. Among other things the F.B.I. was involved with the Symbionese Liberation Army. Covered for the Mafia for decades. It feloniously fabricated phony lab results to convict thousands of defendants, and direct involvement along with the ATF in blowing up the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City in 1995. It came out in Manhattan District Court that the FBI financed and ran the the 1993 World Trade center bombing as well. The people of this country would be well served if that agency was dissolved and the criminals within prosecuted. And let's not forget the brutal FBI assassination of Randy Weaver's wife and son as well as the recent FBI public execution Levoy Finicum in Oregon. It's a fucking cult.

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wisehiney Fri, 12/01/2017 - 18:30 Permalink

“We're going to win so much. You're going to get tired of winning. you’re going to say, ‘Please Mr. President, I have a headache. Please, don't win so much. This is getting terrible.’ And I'm going to say, ‘No, we have to make America great again.’ You're gonna say, ‘Please.’ I said, ‘Nope, nope. We're gonna keep winning.’

williambanzai7 Fri, 12/01/2017 - 18:36 Permalink

I would like to see the Mueller mandate changed to investigate Israeli interference in American politics. And one popcorn with that.

Don't they all violate the same laws every time they visit Netanyahu pre-election?

two hoots williambanzai7 Fri, 12/01/2017 - 18:45 Permalink

Agree compelely, the administration was eagar to quickly get into bed with Israel/settlement expansion.  Tie that in with Netenyahu's attempt to get us to hit Iran and it shows they have more than their noise under the tent.With Russia, Iran and now China helping secure Syria  expanding the promise land just got really difficult for all interested/funding groups.  

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War Machine williambanzai7 Fri, 12/01/2017 - 19:06 Permalink

Jared Kushner is a Chabad Lubavitcher whose family has deep ties to Netanyahu, Likud, and Israel's Jew-only colonies in the Occupied West Bank.

He is quite literally an Israeli agent.

The real story here is that Kushner, acting on the insistence of the head of a foreign state, directed Flynn to try to persuade Russia to delay the UNSC vote on Israel's Jew-only apartheid colonies, so that Trump could veto it.

That is absolutely remarkable.

We may assume Kushner has acted primarily out of concern for Likud Israel and that he has illegally passed classified information to Israel.

We may also assume that Vichy Washington will do nothing about it.

Israel has been nothing but dishonest for decades with regard to Palestine, has routinely violated UN/SC resolutions without consequence, and maintains an apartheid colonizing scheme with military/occupation law for the natives and Israeli civil law for Jews - but it will cry 'anti-semite' and 'one-sided' when the world demands Israel comply with the laws of war, Gebeva conventions, and when it calls an apartheid regime and apartheid regime.

Jews, you see, think themselves above the laws of the goyim - and that is the heart of the matter.

While I wish the best for the Palestinians my concern is and always has been the insidious affects of Israel on my own country - Kushner is an Israeli agent/spy and what Israel wants now more than anything is to get the US into another war, or wars, for Greater Israel.

If the FBI and DIA are powerless to stop Israeli agents from directing US policy, if Senator Cotton is seriously suggested as head of CIA given his slavish devotion to Israel and neocon/Zionist warmongers... then the government of the United States is a hostile, occupying power acting under color of law to advance the interests of foreign states and organizations.

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WTFUD War Machine Fri, 12/01/2017 - 19:27 Permalink

Outside his own family ( - son-in-law ) seems Trump has no friends in the political arena, with the only one Bannon, let go, sacrificed, and therefore like al-CIAd'uh should have hired proxy mercenaries to do his bidding. With his nose wedged firmly up Netanyahu's crack you'd think he could have at least borrowed the 5 dancing mossad 9/11 hitmen. Fuck even Hillary would throw Bill under the bus for a crack at the title. Too old, maybe senile, and Pence is also a lame duck or traitor.

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DisorderlyConduct War Machine Fri, 12/01/2017 - 19:41 Permalink

Ok. So they get Jared into the White House and then blow their load on a meaningless vote by the UNSC. As if they couldn't get anything more by playing it cool. Really?  This isn't even low grade BS. So they are so crafty as to win the White House and so dumb to blow it so easily and on so little. Man, bumblers like that - it's amazing they even exist...

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BobEore williambanzai7 Fri, 12/01/2017 - 19:28 Permalink

There is nothing to change then.

Yo investigate Flynn IS "to investigate Israeli interference in American politics."

While those interested in this dog & pony show refuse to see it - for whichever partisan reason that they cheer for -

you don't find a NEO-CON PEDDLER OF THE IDEA THAT THE USA SHOULD run around the world chasing down "islamic terror" (see his infamous book coauthored with full bore neon Leeden)

without finding A DANCING SRAELI under those covers ... tho they be the last thing you might hope to find in the 'acknowledgements' ...

tel avivs' policy being to work thru it's stable of dupes while staying off radar. Oh... speaking of stable o dupess...

after the smoke n mirrors get cleared... you also find under those same silky sheets - a bespoked jihadi in a fez... your neo-ottomaniac from Ankara, who comes to amerika with a bag o loot to spread around the table ...

namely - the groaning board at Mikes' 'consultancy' ... where pocket change like HALF A MILLION BUCKS gets handed over for


discussing an extraordinary rendition of Turco-Sraeli former bagman and world wide jihad 'executive action' initiator - Fetuallah Gulen -

small details which alt-right wingnuts can happily agree to overlook in their newfound enthusiasm for neo-con warriors and srael-firsters. Cover up - what cover up?

Under the covers of another Boris n Natasha Bullwinkle episode lurks a lurid tale of Trumpeting Towers of RUSSO-TALMUDIC MAFIYAS buying Presidents, Presstidudes, Potentates of the neoliberal phony islamist kind, and packaging it all into a media fake news extravaganza designed to distract all from the main event...

Goldman Sacks... Washington... and carries the spoils o war off to the new talmudic mafiya HQ in the far east, where pandas and unicorns roam in search of naive boys n grrls to sell their stories of goodguy/badguy bullshit to.

Now back to our endless cycle of rehashed merikan soap opera political theater... after this word from outside the wasteland - https://storify.com/SuaveBel/part-eight - which laid it all out half a year back - before the sightless eyes of a complicit media and its dozing audience.

"For just like the disinterest of medias in uncovering the new POTUS' background of longstanding ties to the Ashkenazi Lansky criminal cartel, so a blank spot continues to appear in the resume of Giuliani, where a record of similar ties should be. Not only is the former NYC mayor one of that tribe himself, in his own stint as a NY star prosecutor, he purposely led a campaign to wipe out the Italian mob, so as to clear the way for it's replacement - the newly landed Russo-Ashkenazi one!" https://storify.com/SuaveBel
"I would like to see the Mueller mandate changed to investigate Israeli interference in American politics"

L@@K! SkQuierRwLzzzz! Dancin on bridges. Nuthn to see here!

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BobEore TBT or not TBT Fri, 12/01/2017 - 20:23 Permalink

No doubt bout it trooper!

By keepin the spotlight OFF of foreign funded syn -0- gogues...

foreign agents of a distant power wieldin ultimate authority in places like

Treasury... Commerce... etc;

makin sure that noboby notices the Goldmanite dismantling of Merika...

and generally whistlin past the GRAVEYARD of the once mighty Republic - of Fear - ... we can concentrate on eliminating the LOOMIN THREAT

of talmudic controlled phony "islamist terror" from our lives


Yu pukes and your sionist psyops here are pathetic.... who yu think yu be foolin fool?

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WTFUD qdone Fri, 12/01/2017 - 19:11 Permalink

Sessions like the whole of Congress bar 3 and the whole of The Senate bar 2 are 150% compromised. FFS ARREST COMEY, CLINTON, and YES, Pompeo. Guess what, Trump's considering this ineffective Neocon POS as replacement for the ineffective Tillerson.

Trump's a great Tweeter, best there is, but that's the extent of his ruthlessness. Seems there's not a cunt he can trust, whereas Barry was a natural evil vindictive bastard who no one dare cross.

Anyone with half a brain would have a Czar in every fucking department who'd have every fucker below them shitting in their pants when he walked into the office.

WEAK WEAK WEAK WEAK WEAK. Putin would have the lot of them begging for mercy/leniency within his first week in office and not a fucking peep thereafter.

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Duc888 Fri, 12/01/2017 - 18:46 Permalink

With this Flynn bullshit.... the REAL story is that he DID lie to the FBI.  But the important thing is this.....  he DID meet with the Russians.... that's his goddamned JOB.  The news makes it out as he LIED about meeting with the Russians.... he did NOT.  It's like the news stating "the short order cook actually cooked some bacon and egg sandwhiches".  Well, no shit, that is his job.  He met with the Russians because that is what he was supposed to do.   Again, remember, when Trump said he's "going to drain the Swamp".  What he MEANT by that was he was going after the corrupt parts of the FBI (which is totally infiltrated with Muslim Brotherhood) as well as ALL of the CIA and a large part of the Pentagon.Putting it in context when General Mattis and a few other GOOD guys approached him three years ago to run for President they presented their case as to WHY they wanted him to run....   But back to Flynn.  He met with the Russians (his job).  They handed him some EXTREMELY DETAILED Dossiers on quite a few scumbags in DC as well as the Pentagon.  Dossiers containing pictures, vids, and facts regarding this pedophilia stuff.  Here's the kicker.  One of the files was on VP Pence's BEST FRIEND.  I forget who it is now.... I knew his name a few months ago but it is unimportant to the story.  So Flynn finds out that Pence's best bud is high up on the food chain of these DC Pedo's...    So Flynn gets back to DC and Pence debriefs him.  Flynn purposely omits any information about Pence's best friend (pedo) as well as all the other pedo shit in DC.  Through indirect channels Pence found this out and pressured Trump into letting Flynn go.  Trump did not want to do this.... remember, Pence is gunning for the position of President.  So if you look back at WHAT Trump specifically said when he asked for Flynns resignation, Trump did NOT accuse Flynn of lying.... he mentioned that he was "less than thorough" in his reporting to Senior Staff at the Whitehouse (Pence).  See how that works now?  Flynn never LIED, he with held info, big difference.  Flynn did this because he REALIZED that there was an ongoing investigation of (at that time) about 30 or so Congresspersons as well as dozens of Generals in DC / Pentagon.  Flynn did not want to bust the investigation wide open.    So fast forward to Mueller's investigation of "Trump"...he is chipping away at the lower hanging fruit.   OBVIOUSLY Flynn's gonna lie (with hold information) to the FBI because he knows Holder, Lynch, Comey and others are also implicated in the COVER UP of the Pedo shit that has taken place with the Clintons.... so obviously Flynn does not want to bust the whole investigation open....So you see the time is VERY near when 1/3rd of our Federal Government will be arrested, the number of sealed indictments now numbers over 5000 !  There are SCORES of generals implicated in these crimes of drug running, drug laundering, pedophilia, organ harvesting and the selling of sex slaves.

WTFUD Duc888 Fri, 12/01/2017 - 19:49 Permalink

If Trump's playing even 2/3d chess and the long-game then great, but in the meantime none of his policies are getting through, everything's being scuppered even by his supposed own Party. No, he has to KILL someone and send a fucking message. Oh yeah, and not some 3rd world foreigner, unless it's Netanyahu.

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BobEore WTFUD Fri, 12/01/2017 - 20:11 Permalink

not some 3rd world foreigner, unless it's Netanyahu....

unless you are referring to the precincts of Philadelphia... as a 3rd world hellhole (and who am I to argue!)...

the former furniture salesman from Philly now ruling over a pirate empire in the s e Med...

is a tru Merikan talmudic patriot - of the kind who rule the roost in DC.. right now... and report back to the main warehouse in tel aviv daily.

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rlouis Fri, 12/01/2017 - 18:48 Permalink

This might be a way for Mueller to close out the investigation, saving face with a bit more than a nothing burger. Trump gives up just enough to the close the inquiry vs. a knock-down drag-out fight where Mueller, Comey and Rosenstein begin taking bigger hits, and probably Clinton too over Uranium One. Going to have to see what happens with Hillary's and McCain's walking boots.pass the popcorn

Gohigher Fri, 12/01/2017 - 18:52 Permalink

Can I apply for the refunding of government funds wasted in this faux-investigative shit show ?

Oh well, at this point, what does it matter ?

Recovering waste fraud and abuse is just wasted time when you can just


Set it alight ........